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February 25, 2023, 07:45:50 PM
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Looking at this country now ,not all people want to move from the state we are to the next level

Selling our votes is like selling our life's for the years the president will be in seat ,

Selling our votes will only increase curruption ,I thought everyone was saying that we should avoid bribing and curruption too,but it's not like the way we said it 😩

Selling our votes will make things hard for our country ,what we should be looking at is the next years we will spend,if it will be a proud one or a disappointment ,some are just thinking of the present situation by selling their votes ,in the next years to come they will be the ones to cry out .

We should really think about the poor too,some are just greedy and thinking only of themselves and their benefits,this is our country ,if there is any way we make progress it's by our own selves not other countries coming to make decisions for us.

Most of us says that we wished our lives or our country will be as that of other outside country ,but the question is are you really making this country move too,or you are one of those that are dragging this country behind ?? When it comes to bribing and curruption do we resist it my not selling our votes for selfish reasons that will not last

Let's discuss about this ,I also need ur opinion
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February 25, 2023, 09:52:46 PM
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Sell your vote only under both of the following 2 circumstances:
1. When you can get all the money the buyer of your vote has;
2. When it sets you up wealthy for the rest of your life.

It's like in America, "We have the best government that money can buy."

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February 26, 2023, 03:47:39 PM
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Looking at this country now ,not all people want to move from the state we are to the next level
I expect that you mean your country is Nigeria, since it is the only country, as far as I know, in which presidential elections are held, which began yesterday, Saturday. Isn't it?

In the Nigerian example, the hypothesis of the candidates' offer to buy votes is very candidate, since there are 18 candidates competing for one seat (presidency). Of course, this falls within the list of political corruption, because a person who works to buy votes from voters to ensure victory means that he is not eligible for that position.
As for the voters, they are also involved in corruption if they accept to sell their votes at any cost.

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February 26, 2023, 04:32:33 PM
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Looking at this country now ,not all people want to move from the state we are to the next level
I expect that you mean your country is Nigeria, since it is the only country, as far as I know, in which presidential elections are held, which began yesterday, Saturday. Isn't it?

In the Nigerian example, the hypothesis of the candidates' offer to buy votes is very candidate, since there are 18 candidates competing for one seat (presidency). Of course, this falls within the list of political corruption, because a person who works to buy votes from voters to ensure victory means that he is not eligible for that position.
As for the voters, they are also involved in corruption if they accept to sell their votes at any cost.
One of the reasons why people sell their votes is that they assume that their votes wouldn't count. These corrupt politicians have devised means to manipulate electoral results to suit their preferred candidates. Some electoral officials collect bribes from politicians to influence the election results. And this is what is happening right now in Nigeria. Electoral officials have refused to submit the election result to the central server because they have been induced to claim that there is no network. This gives them the privilege of changing the results and sending the fake one to the server.

When people see all these electoral malpractices, they just decide to sell their vote because with or without their vote, the winner of the election has already been predetermined.

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February 27, 2023, 11:36:00 AM
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Looking at this country now ,not all people want to move from the state we are to the next level
I expect that you mean your country is Nigeria, since it is the only country, as far as I know, in which presidential elections are held, which began yesterday, Saturday. Isn't it?

In the Nigerian example, the hypothesis of the candidates' offer to buy votes is very candidate, since there are 18 candidates competing for one seat (presidency). Of course, this falls within the list of political corruption, because a person who works to buy votes from voters to ensure victory means that he is not eligible for that position.
As for the voters, they are also involved in corruption if they accept to sell their votes at any cost.
One of the reasons why people sell their votes is that they assume that their votes wouldn't count. These corrupt politicians have devised means to manipulate electoral results to suit their preferred candidates. Some electoral officials collect bribes from politicians to influence the election results. And this is what is happening right now in Nigeria. Electoral officials have refused to submit the election result to the central server because they have been induced to claim that there is no network. This gives them the privilege of changing the results and sending the fake one to the server.

When people see all these electoral malpractices, they just decide to sell their vote because with or without their vote, the winner of the election has already been predetermined.
vote buying is now a custom in Nigeria politics, voters do not wait to be Given bribe again, they now demand as if it's their right to be given money before casting their vote. I blame politicians less in this evil act. Citizens voters education should be taking serious. Because the citizens are worst than the politicians, they're ready to sell their vote with a little money and suffer in the hands of same politicians for fours years.
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February 27, 2023, 04:14:25 PM
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In Nigeria today selling our votes mean selling our conscience.
It means selling our right and all that comes with democracy.
Enslaving ourselves for the next four to eight years, not just us but the next generation coming after us.
We must stand for true democracy, by making the election free and fair, vote wisely.
Let vote in a leader that will improve our country, a visionary leader, a man with a passionate goal to change the static ways of doing things in this country.
A leader who has his citizens at heart, who makes decision's not for his selfish interest but in the interest of the citizens, a Leader who Is not just eager to make himself Rich but to enrich the land and its citizens.
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February 27, 2023, 04:26:47 PM
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It's important to note that selling your votes is illegal and could lead to severe consequences. It shouldn't even be an option when voting.

Imagine the impact you are giving towards the society you live in if you were to do it. It's unethical, so based on that reason and the underlying knowledge that it's illegal, don't do it.

I do hope that people stop being greedy and let everyone grow.
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February 27, 2023, 10:45:08 PM
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Looking at this country now ,not all people want to move from the state we are to the next level
I expect that you mean your country is Nigeria, since it is the only country, as far as I know, in which presidential elections are held, which began yesterday, Saturday. Isn't it?

In the Nigerian example, the hypothesis of the candidates' offer to buy votes is very candidate, since there are 18 candidates competing for one seat (presidency). Of course, this falls within the list of political corruption, because a person who works to buy votes from voters to ensure victory means that he is not eligible for that position.
As for the voters, they are also involved in corruption if they accept to sell their votes at any cost.
One of the reasons why people sell their votes is that they assume that their votes wouldn't count. These corrupt politicians have devised means to manipulate electoral results to suit their preferred candidates. Some electoral officials collect bribes from politicians to influence the election results. And this is what is happening right now in Nigeria. Electoral officials have refused to submit the election result to the central server because they have been induced to claim that there is no network. This gives them the privilege of changing the results and sending the fake one to the server.

When people see all these electoral malpractices, they just decide to sell their vote because with or without their vote, the winner of the election has already been predetermined.

It would be disgusting for someone to eventually sell their votes for peanuts after 8 years of living in hell as a Nigerian citizen. Anyone proven to have sold their votes demonstrates that they don't care about the future of the nation but instead enjoy suffering.

vote buying is now a custom in Nigeria politics, voters do not wait to be Given bribe again, they now demand as if it's their right to be given money before casting their vote. I blame politicians less in this evil act. Citizens voters education should be taking serious. Because the citizens are worst than the politicians, they're ready to sell their vote with a little money and suffer in the hands of same politicians for fours years.
That was in the previous elections not in this election. People turned out in large numbers to cast their votes for the best candidate in the current election without accepting or soliciting bribes in exchange for their participation in the country's election.

Nigeria's sole current issue is that politicians use military personnel to oppress the public through INEC in order to skew the results in their favor.

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February 27, 2023, 10:50:35 PM
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If you see the corruption that is making some people said they're both in that country because they are not using the modern facility to conduct election of a particular country I think if the country is United or she was enough they would have adopted the system of the following country method of election before conducting election election is full of manipulation that is why people are selling their food knowing that their wall does not count

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March 01, 2023, 01:02:28 PM
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When people see all these electoral malpractices, they just decide to sell their vote because with or without their vote, the winner of the election has already been predetermined.

In my opinion, this justification is more dangerous than doing the act itself. It means to justify to those who sell their votes that they will not change the results whether they vote or not, because if this were true, there would be no buying of votes.
Let's be frank, these manifestations spread among impoverished peoples whose rulers only remember them during the election period, so they buy their votes to strengthen their seats. In general, purchases are not successful unless the number of candidates is large.

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March 01, 2023, 01:24:38 PM
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Votes should not be sold no matter the amount offered to you, there is no justification to such act , nevertheless the major problem that subjects people to sell their votes is poverty” a corrupt government will subject its citizens to abject poverty, frustrate them with hunger and ended up intimidating them with peanuts in the name of bribe and buying their votes during elections.
For the masses to select competent leaders during election, they must say “No” to vote buying and selling, Vote buying is the first stage in Election rigging.
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March 01, 2023, 02:20:11 PM
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In Nigeria today selling our votes mean selling our conscience.
It means selling our right and all that comes with democracy.
Enslaving ourselves for the next four to eight years, not just us but the next generation coming after us.
We must stand for true democracy, by making the election free and fair, vote wisely.
Let vote in a leader that will improve our country, a visionary leader, a man with a passionate goal to change the static ways of doing things in this country.
A leader who has his citizens at heart, who makes decision's not for his selfish interest but in the interest of the citizens, a Leader who Is not just eager to make himself Rich but to enrich the land and its citizens.
🙏🏾🙏🏾
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March 01, 2023, 06:42:09 PM
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I'd be willing to sell my vote as long as the people buying it were going to want me to vote for the same person I would have anyway.  Thinking about it...  With all the money now going into lawsuits about voting machines and crooked politicians, buying votes, etc...  Maybe the answer is to start offering people personal tax breaks for voting.  Imagine something like the minimum deduction on your taxes goes from $16K to $20K if you vote...  That would certainly help low income people be motivated to vote instead of selling theirs...  It seems like a good idea for something I just thought of now.  If large organizations are going to start buying votes, maybe it's time to start incentivizing voters to vote for themselves.

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March 01, 2023, 09:46:45 PM
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People like BLM, Antifa, and illegals coming up over the border, have already sold their votes to Dems. So, why don't the Reps offer them even more money, and buy the votes back?

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March 02, 2023, 10:36:28 PM
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Looking at this country now ,not all people want to move from the state we are to the next level
I expect that you mean your country is Nigeria, since it is the only country, as far as I know, in which presidential elections are held, which began yesterday, Saturday. Isn't it?

In the Nigerian example, the hypothesis of the candidates' offer to buy votes is very candidate, since there are 18 candidates competing for one seat (presidency). Of course, this falls within the list of political corruption, because a person who works to buy votes from voters to ensure victory means that he is not eligible for that position.
As for the voters, they are also involved in corruption if they accept to sell their votes at any cost.

What happens when the politicians offer indirect bribes? Promising the voting population direct stimulus or social welfare for their votes? Of course this is the appeal socialism/communism gives. It's using government resources to purchase votes under the guise of welfare programs. These programs have never been successful. They've just created a lot of debt. Voters are susceptible to such bribes -- why wouldn't they be. It's free money!

COVID produced a lot of this. Politicians running all over the world made sure to promise nonexistent government assets to the voters in order to help their reelection campaigns.
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March 03, 2023, 06:16:44 AM
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When people see all these electoral malpractices, they just decide to sell their vote because with or without their vote, the winner of the election has already been predetermined.

In my opinion, this justification is more dangerous than doing the act itself. It means to justify to those who sell their votes that they will not change the results whether they vote or not, because if this were true, there would be no buying of votes.
Let's be frank, these manifestations spread among impoverished peoples whose rulers only remember them during the election period, so they buy their votes to strengthen their seats. In general, purchases are not successful unless the number of candidates is large.
I agree that vote selling should be highly discouraged because it is a criminal offense. But you might not understand the Nigerian situation. In Nigeria, politicians buy votes and also rig elections. They engage in vote buying just to ensure they win if they fail to rig it. The target of corrupt Nigerian politicians is to use vote buying, violence, voting suppression, intimidation, tribalism, and religion to gain political power by all means. An example is the recently conducted Nigerian elections where Peter Obi the Labour Party candidate was the clear winner but the elections were clearly and openly rigged.

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March 05, 2023, 07:51:32 AM
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In as much as it's not good to sell our votes, in as much as we should always have our PVCs and vote our conscience which is the right thing to do, I just want to ask a very simple question,
Does our votes count?
Let's just take a look at the very past presidential elections, in Rivers State, so many persons voted for peter obi of labour party, but when the results came out from inec, it was tinubu that won, even in my unit at eleme that peter obi won, at a long run inec gave our votes to tinubu,
So do you think anyone would love to vote their conscience again? When they know Inec will manipulate their votes and give it to whom they prefer, don't you think the people will rather want to sell their votes for any petty money via the instincts that after all their votes won't count?

Please let's think about this...

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People are greedy for money and can do anything.  People are running on the path of injustice by selling very valuable votes.  I would like to mention about my country that our country's government administration takes all the votes alone.  The administration and the government do not give any chance to the opposition and sell the votes later due to the greed of public money.  These are heinous crimes in the eyes of the law which are enough to take it to the height of corruption.

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March 06, 2023, 02:13:45 PM
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People like BLM, Antifa, and illegals coming up over the border, have already sold their votes to Dems. So, why don't the Reps offer them even more money, and buy the votes back?

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Realistically, BLM and alleged Antifa members are more likely to vote democrat because their political agenda is more aligned with the agenda of the Democrat party. Black people see or perceive that Democrat politicians are more favorable to them, and people from the left agree on many of the talking points of the party.

And as far as I know, in order to vote in the United States, one needs to be a citizen. So immigrants cannot vote right away and if they become citizens and end up voting democrat it is (again) because they believe that party gives them more priority and representation than the Republican party.

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March 06, 2023, 04:31:33 PM
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People like BLM, Antifa, and illegals coming up over the border, have already sold their votes to Dems. So, why don't the Reps offer them even more money, and buy the votes back?

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Realistically, BLM and alleged Antifa members are more likely to vote democrat because their political agenda is more aligned with the agenda of the Democrat party. Black people see or perceive that Democrat politicians are more favorable to them, and people from the left agree on many of the talking points of the party.

And as far as I know, in order to vote in the United States, one needs to be a citizen. So immigrants cannot vote right away and if they become citizens and end up voting democrat it is (again) because they believe that party gives them more priority and representation than the Republican party.

More realistically, the only reason for these organizations is to get better living conditions. And better living conditions can be had if you have money. Buy their votes back. They want the money. I mean, look at all the money going to Ukraine - we can barely visualize what $100 billion is like. Why do we have to suffer?

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