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February 28, 2023, 09:39:49 PM
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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
And again they also said money is potency and fondness. Yes, money is power even if you are not a graduate or you haven't been to college before and you have the money you can even employ a graduate to work for you.
Presently now in my wonderful fatherland NIGERIA 🇳🇬 I can see the power of money.
Please any advice?

Unfortunately education is only useful when it can be applied, as you seem well aware. It takes a lot of money to achieve actual distinguished skills like becoming a doctor or a highly paid solicitor, often it's more about the connections you make in certain places or that your family know already, than is it about the education itself. The one thing that many younger people have today that previous generations did not have as much, is the internet - it is a great leveling tool that can give you access to huge swaths of information at your fingertips, you can teach yourself topics that would have required extremely specialist schools to learn 30 years ago and access all sorts of business / trade tools. Leverage that to your advantage and you can have a very cheap education.

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February 28, 2023, 10:34:36 PM
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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
And again they also said money is potency and fondness. Yes, money is power even if you are not a graduate or you haven't been to college before and you have the money you can even employ a graduate to work for you.
Presently now in my wonderful fatherland NIGERIA 🇳🇬 I can see the power of money.
Please any advice?

Unfortunately education is only useful when it can be applied, as you seem well aware. It takes a lot of money to achieve actual distinguished skills like becoming a doctor or a highly paid solicitor, often it's more about the connections you make in certain places or that your family know already, than is it about the education itself. The one thing that many younger people have today that previous generations did not have as much, is the internet - it is a great leveling tool that can give you access to huge swaths of information at your fingertips, you can teach yourself topics that would have required extremely specialist schools to learn 30 years ago and access all sorts of business / trade tools. Leverage that to your advantage and you can have a very cheap education.

You are right about the iInternet and it does offer the possibility to learn stuff by yourself, but there are also some disadvantages compared to the standard forms of education: it is harder to build networks and social networking is also more difficult. Since people spend tons of time on the Internet anyway, having a place where you go daily, meet people and progress together also has a lot of value.

If you want you can get all types of courses online for free, even CS courses in Harvard, all freely accessible. That is awesome, but it should be combined with other efforts that keep you socially connected. Social skills can be as important as educational skills and they complement each other very well.

The issue is money though even if you study in places where the tuition is cheap you still need money to live on your own and rent a place. Those prices have exploded as well.

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March 01, 2023, 02:33:29 AM
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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Education without skill is useless. without result which can make the graduation can get the fast job is still make them idleness and don't know what they can do next. This is not also your problem country, but all country especially developing countries where the official is still finding how to get money fast by corruption and never think about how the citizen live without trouble food, and other.

So I don't bet it all, if have a skill for choice, I will choose it.
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March 01, 2023, 03:08:36 AM
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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
And again they also said money is potency and fondness. Yes, money is power even if you are not a graduate or you haven't been to college before and you have the money you can even employ a graduate to work for you.
Presently now in my wonderful fatherland NIGERIA 🇳🇬 I can see the power of money.
Please any advice?
Money and education are two things that cannot be separated and are interrelated, to find them you must have both.
Regardless of the country's problems that don't care about education or quality and are only fixated on the power of money, my advice is never to follow the wrong stream, stay educated to equip you to live in the world and with education it is possible that you will be able to get quite a large amount of money.

not only your country, I think there are many countries that have considerable money power compared to education to get a job but back again to their respective mindsets that when you have education you can do a lot of work to make money.

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March 01, 2023, 08:38:52 AM
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Of course money has power over education. People who have a lot of money will have priority in the eyes of other people, while people with higher education may not necessarily get priority in the eyes of other people if they don't have a lot of money. The question is how to get that much money? Some open businesses, and others work for companies with high salaries. How can both be achieved? Of course with education that is compatible with the field or profession that we will choose.

This means that money and education actually have a fairly close relationship, but it's different if someone has privileges from parents who already own a business or from someone closest to them who can support their career faster than other normal people.
I highly agree about learning from senior people. Not just senior as in age, it could be same age as us but we could be starting new while they have been here for a long time, which makes them senior in knowledge. I remember back when I started working for the first time, even though I went to high school and college and even started my masters (never finished it because I had to start working) I could say that I learned more from working and learning from my supervisors than I learned in all my school years.

School teaches you the theory of things, on paper, but the real life is more practical and while in theory something could be true, in reality you could find much easier ways to solve issues when you face them plenty of times.

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March 01, 2023, 08:48:11 AM
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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Education without skill is useless. without result which can make the graduation can get the fast job is still make them idleness and don't know what they can do next. This is not also your problem country, but all country especially developing countries where the official is still finding how to get money fast by corruption and never think about how the citizen live without trouble food, and other.

So I don't bet it all, if have a skill for choice, I will choose it.

I just remembered that a lot of my batchmates before that got graduated without any knowledge of the course (IT) and without us they wouldn't have been able to graduate due to thesis (as it is a group) and now I can see them shifting careers and some sort of not using their skills unlike to us that we were able to have a job that was about our course, though I shifted right now. You have a degree but still don't have skills, which is really useless, but if you went for a government position, degree are very important even if you don't have any skills at all.
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Money today is indeed a great power, and very influential on people. But know, knowledge is more important. Because without knowledge all will not be anything. Knowledge can be the key to success, but knowledge without practice will be in vain. So money and knowledge are both equally important. Without money, it will be difficult for us to live life, without knowledge we will also find it difficult to live life. Basically money and knowledge are both needed.

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Money and education are two things that cannot be separated and are interrelated, to find them you must have both.
Regardless of the country's problems that don't care about education or quality and are only fixated on the power of money, my advice is never to follow the wrong stream, stay educated to equip you to live in the world and with education it is possible that you will be able to get quite a large amount of money.
Education is also pursued by using money now, because there is very little free education in this world now. Even if there are only a few developed countries and not all countries can make education free of charge to their citizens. So money is the main thing that must be there and it is very much needed to run all the things that are considered important for ourselves. So apart from money and education that cannot be separated anymore at this point, education can only be achieved when someone already has enough money in him.

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not only your country, I think there are many countries that have considerable money power compared to education to get a job but back again to their respective mindsets that when you have education you can do a lot of work to make money.
If we look at it more broadly and more generally, of course every country has advised its citizens to continue studying as much as they can so that their citizens can be a little more independent in thinking and also in living their lives. Because no matter what to do now, money is the first foundation that everyone must have and it cannot be ignored.

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If you have money then invest on education, get yourself educated and let your children also be part of this benefits because illiteracy is a disease and poverty on the corner, we have many rich illiterates and many educated poor fellows in the society, if you have money and live the right life you should live, but for those that thinks education is very expensive, then they should give illiteracy a try, but our first asset is in education through the learning process.

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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Education without skill is useless. without result which can make the graduation can get the fast job is still make them idleness and don't know what they can do next. This is not also your problem country, but all country especially developing countries where the official is still finding how to get money fast by corruption and never think about how the citizen live without trouble food, and other.

So I don't bet it all, if have a skill for choice, I will choose it.

I just remembered that a lot of my batchmates before that got graduated without any knowledge of the course (IT) and without us they wouldn't have been able to graduate due to thesis (as it is a group) and now I can see them shifting careers and some sort of not using their skills unlike to us that we were able to have a job that was about our course, though I shifted right now. You have a degree but still don't have skills, which is really useless, but if you went for a government position, degree are very important even if you don't have any skills at all.

As OP says, many students graduate and fall into unemployment because they don't have the skills. In our country, many people graduate from school and are unemployed. But as far as I know, most of them have no experience but always ask for a high salary because they think they have spent a lot of money and time to get a university degree, so they don't want to receive a low salary.
Many graduates do not have jobs, but there are also many students who find jobs. This cannot be blamed entirely on education, largely because the thinking of today's youth is becoming skewed about education.

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March 01, 2023, 11:41:57 PM
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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Education without skill is useless. without result which can make the graduation can get the fast job is still make them idleness and don't know what they can do next. This is not also your problem country, but all country especially developing countries where the official is still finding how to get money fast by corruption and never think about how the citizen live without trouble food, and other.

So I don't bet it all, if have a skill for choice, I will choose it.

I just remembered that a lot of my batchmates before that got graduated without any knowledge of the course (IT) and without us they wouldn't have been able to graduate due to thesis (as it is a group) and now I can see them shifting careers and some sort of not using their skills unlike to us that we were able to have a job that was about our course, though I shifted right now. You have a degree but still don't have skills, which is really useless, but if you went for a government position, degree are very important even if you don't have any skills at all.

As OP says, many students graduate and fall into unemployment because they don't have the skills. In our country, many people graduate from school and are unemployed. But as far as I know, most of them have no experience but always ask for a high salary because they think they have spent a lot of money and time to get a university degree, so they don't want to receive a low salary.
Many graduates do not have jobs, but there are also many students who find jobs. This cannot be blamed entirely on education, largely because the thinking of today's youth is becoming skewed about education.

But that is a bit of a one sided presentation of the facts. I can't speak for all countries, but when education is expensive and you take on loads of debt for years, isn't it understandable that you ask for a higher salary than the average person? Low wage levels have become a serious problem in a lot of countries and not only the developing ones. With inflation being high you are almost forced to ask for higher salaries in order to make sure you can pay your bills at the end of the day.

But no matter what discussion we have here, education is still positively correlated with higher income and we should not let us be deluded by stories of Silicon Valley entrepreneurs. Many of them might not have finished their education, that is true, but they all had enough education to enter universities like Harvard and Stanford. Sometimes the public is confronted with the idea that dropping out from college is equal to having no education and still become a billionaire. No, those guys would have degrees from the best universities of the world if they didn't drop out.

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March 01, 2023, 11:52:24 PM
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My first context to this would be;
Who says education has to do with you to have gone through the four ways of some university or school as this seems to insinuate?
And should I go but what I assume your trying to imply,  who says you can't have both?

Again, the goal of every scholar is the hope that, thy could amass wealth through the vast knowledge they've been exposed to which makes it pretty much a goal but, some means of education becomes a necessity for you to be able to manage your enterprise, determine just how much profit you ought to he making in contrast to how much your making and to manage your staff.
Of course you might have someone do that for you but, you still ha e to over see it all to ensure your not been frauded.

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March 02, 2023, 03:43:13 AM
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~snip~
My first context to this would be;
Who says education has to do with you to have gone through the four ways of some university or school as this seems to insinuate?
And should I go but what I assume your trying to imply,  who says you can't have both?

Again, the goal of every scholar is the hope that, thy could amass wealth through the vast knowledge they've been exposed to which makes it pretty much a goal but, some means of education becomes a necessity for you to be able to manage your enterprise, determine just how much profit you ought to he making in contrast to how much your making and to manage your staff.
Of course you might have someone do that for you but, you still ha e to over see it all to ensure your not been frauded.
Correct, many people assume that education is simply going through the public school system and that is it, but that is not true, you can educate yourself during your free time and even if you may not have a college degree there are many people that learned on their own and which have levels of knowledge way higher than those that went to school, besides as time passes it is going to become more and more difficult to achieve any kind of financial goal without a massive amount of knowledge, as we live in the Information Age and the more knowledge you have the higher your income could be.
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March 02, 2023, 08:39:14 AM
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This is true, in fact I have met with so many coders who never went to school for coding and yet they are coding better than many people who studied software engineering at school. You know why? Because you can give someone a Harvard level education and if they don't care, and barely pass enough to graduate, and not work on their craft, they will be bad, doesn't matter how good the education was.

But, if you give someone online course education, provably worse, yet they work hard 12 hours a day to be better at it? They will beat the other person with what they do and what they know. So education is something that happens when the student wants to learn, not the other way around.
You make a great point there. Education is not solely determined by the institution or program attended, but rather by the individual's willingness to learn and work hard to improve their skills. Though formal education can provide valuable knowledge and structure, it is ultimately up to the individual to take the initiative to develop their abilities and expertise to a higher level.

Coding or programming is a prime example of this, as the industry is constantly evolving and requires individuals to adapt and learn new technologies and programming languages. Most of the time, self-taught coders can be just as skilled, if not more so, than those who have gone through formal education programs.
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March 02, 2023, 10:15:46 AM
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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
And again they also said money is potency and fondness. Yes, money is power even if you are not a graduate or you haven't been to college before and you have the money you can even employ a graduate to work for you.
Presently now in my wonderful fatherland NIGERIA 🇳🇬 I can see the power of money.
Please any advice?

EDUCATION is the bedrock of it all. Financial stability and Educational success.  Formal education builts your cognitive abilities, it helps to shape your moral lifestyle, because it will affect the way you talk, the way you dress, the way you carry yourself and also the way the public see you.

Education also helps you think on how to build financial stability, it will make you think outside the box 🎁 on how to make money, education makes you Hunger for success with your knowledge, it doesn't keep you Idol,  education will help you learn new skills with ease, Education allows you to have a sharp and a brighter mind. So I believe with your Education you can attain any financial stability.  because anybody that is Education, it's as if that person is possessed with the spirit of knowledge and knowledge they say is POWER.

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You make a great point there. Education is not solely determined by the institution or program attended, but rather by the individual's willingness to learn and work hard to improve their skills. Though formal education can provide valuable knowledge and structure, it is ultimately up to the individual to take the initiative to develop their abilities and expertise to a higher level.

Coding or programming is a prime example of this, as the industry is constantly evolving and requires individuals to adapt and learn new technologies and programming languages. Most of the time, self-taught coders can be just as skilled, if not more so, than those who have gone through formal education programs.
But you understand that while we are learning, we will not gain experience. Experience can only be gained when we put our skills into practice. My friend studied programming on his own for a long time, for some time he took training courses, and as a result he became a programmer and makes good money.
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Please any advice?

Well, an education without real effort is a waste and if we want to earn money we need to work really hard in the first and work smarter later because we can't always work hard in our old times. Money is the real power but without effort in it your money only lasts a short time. I have a lot of friends that have not graduated from college but because their efforts are incredible right now they just enjoying the result of what they fought for in their youth time.


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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Education without skill is useless. without result which can make the graduation can get the fast job is still make them idleness and don't know what they can do next. This is not also your problem country, but all country especially developing countries where the official is still finding how to get money fast by corruption and never think about how the citizen live without trouble food, and other.

So I don't bet it all, if have a skill for choice, I will choose it.

I just remembered that a lot of my batchmates before that got graduated without any knowledge of the course (IT) and without us they wouldn't have been able to graduate due to thesis (as it is a group) and now I can see them shifting careers and some sort of not using their skills unlike to us that we were able to have a job that was about our course, though I shifted right now. You have a degree but still don't have skills, which is really useless, but if you went for a government position, degree are very important even if you don't have any skills at all.

As OP says, many students graduate and fall into unemployment because they don't have the skills. In our country, many people graduate from school and are unemployed. But as far as I know, most of them have no experience but always ask for a high salary because they think they have spent a lot of money and time to get a university degree, so they don't want to receive a low salary.
Many graduates do not have jobs, but there are also many students who find jobs. This cannot be blamed entirely on education, largely because the thinking of today's youth is becoming skewed about education.

But that is a bit of a one sided presentation of the facts. I can't speak for all countries, but when education is expensive and you take on loads of debt for years, isn't it understandable that you ask for a higher salary than the average person? Low wage levels have become a serious problem in a lot of countries and not only the developing ones. With inflation being high you are almost forced to ask for higher salaries in order to make sure you can pay your bills at the end of the day.


As a fresh graduate, you can only compete with people who don't have a degree or people with the same level as you, you can't compete with those who have graduated and have experience. A degree does not prove that you can do well in the assigned job, fresh graduates do not have some skills, and demanding a high salary is impossible to meet. Meanwhile, a business owner can hire a senior with that salary.

If we are aware that life is getting more and more difficult, and competition is getting fiercer, we should know where we stand, if we can't be better than others, we shouldn't be too demanding. We need jobs, but businesses don't need us because they have so many choices.

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March 02, 2023, 02:31:58 PM
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Somebody rightly said money makes the world go round and I couldn't agree more. As a Nigerian, at some point in my life fresh out of the university I was out of job for close to four years. This wasn't because I was unemployable nor because I did not have the required certificate or qualification. There was just not enough jobs for graduates. What did I do? I turned to Bitcoin. As a result of the education I had acquired which was able to make me smart, to be able to use the internet, to do my own research and a host of other skills which my education had granted me.

So far I have been able to transfer the skills educational skills to be able to make a sizeable amount of income on bitcoin and cryptocurrency market so you see education and money are both important one cannot do without the other day have a symbiotic relationship.

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We are all aiming to have a higher education just to earn money. It’s not a choice but it’s a combination to achieve success. Education is the common way to have a decent job that will give you money. So if you will a choice on what to choose between those two then money is the answer. No one wants to have a job without having a salary and it’s ironic to choose education over a money while you are just studying to get the other choice.

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