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April 08, 2023, 07:23:43 PM
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I agree - knowledge is the way to prosperity one should keep educating oneself
The more skill and education one gets the more refined the person become.

The only question is whether a person who has received an education can then realize his potential within his own country, or whether he has the opportunity to go to another country and realize his potential there.
Unfortunately, there is a good "bad example" - the USSR. It seems that education was not the worst, and even higher education was not bad - many students came from many countries to receive it. But for the local population - the inhabitants of the USSR, there were actually no ways to realize their potential! Yes, there were some institutions that designed something, developed something - but 99% of it was primitivism, which turned into a strong technological, industrial, medical and other lag behind developed Western countries. And initiatives - if not punished, then "put in a folder", and then they forgot about them ... And one of the reasons is the lack of a normal competitive market in the country.
I believe not all the rich people have a higher degree. Most of the rich people in our time are school drop off
or they have never been to school that is how they get the motivation to find their way and earn some money for their livelihood

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The problem we have nowadays is that we have many educated illiterate, just recently, I was watching a video collection where the guy was asking students basic questions and you will be amazed by the answers to the simple questions. There is no way you will have money without being an intelligent, or talented person, this life you use what you have to get what you need, no substitute for that, just get better at what you are doing.


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April 08, 2023, 09:57:08 PM
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I believe not all the rich people have a higher degree. Most of the rich people in our time are school drop off
or they have never been to school that is how they get the motivation to find their way and earn some money for their livelihood
Many rich people get higher education in elite universities because they have everything to facilitate education in any country, so I don't understand why you are saying the opposite of the facts, maybe you are saying to your environment because they are already working at the age of education so they are influenced to make money and neglect education. However, they will regret wasting time to improve knowledge and skills for the mentality to prepare to work in large companies

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April 08, 2023, 11:49:59 PM
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I agree - knowledge is the way to prosperity one should keep educating oneself
The more skill and education one gets the more refined the person become.

The only question is whether a person who has received an education can then realize his potential within his own country, or whether he has the opportunity to go to another country and realize his potential there.
Unfortunately, there is a good "bad example" - the USSR. It seems that education was not the worst, and even higher education was not bad - many students came from many countries to receive it. But for the local population - the inhabitants of the USSR, there were actually no ways to realize their potential! Yes, there were some institutions that designed something, developed something - but 99% of it was primitivism, which turned into a strong technological, industrial, medical and other lag behind developed Western countries. And initiatives - if not punished, then "put in a folder", and then they forgot about them ... And one of the reasons is the lack of a normal competitive market in the country.
I met some very cheap educated people and some very outstanding poor people
Education does not make you a human being - your upbringing does.

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April 08, 2023, 11:59:45 PM
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I believe not all the rich people have a higher degree. Most of the rich people in our time are school drop off
or they have never been to school that is how they get the motivation to find their way and earn some money for their livelihood
Many rich people get higher education in elite universities because they have everything to facilitate education in any country, so I don't understand why you are saying the opposite of the facts, maybe you are saying to your environment because they are already working at the age of education so they are influenced to make money and neglect education. However, they will regret wasting time to improve knowledge and skills for the mentality to prepare to work in large companies
Agreed, we shouldn't take rich into this. For the rich ones they were able to spend big money and they get education from the top universities. There are people who have made themselves successful through the hardworking, but we can see those kind of people educating themselves through some possible sources in the later stages of life. Whether you're good in money making or you master something, if you don't have proper education at some point you'll find difficulty in managing situations. You'll be in a situation to find someone else to do your work.

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The problem we have nowadays is that we have many educated illiterate, just recently, I was watching a video collection where the guy was asking students basic questions and you will be amazed by the answers to the simple questions. There is no way you will have money without being an intelligent, or talented person, this life you use what you have to get what you need, no substitute for that, just get better at what you are doing.
yeah i agree with what you said. because to make more money we certainly need education or insight or skills. that will make our work appreciated. like an architect who can make a lot of money just by drawing the architecture of a building ordered for a construction and of course the resulting drawings also cannot be made by people who have no knowledge of architecture. and that architectural knowledge is what makes it worthwhile. while people who do not have enough education and skills insight, then they work using the majority of power, so maybe they can only produce a little even though they have worked hard longer.

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April 09, 2023, 07:29:03 AM
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I met some very cheap educated people and some very outstanding poor people
Education does not make you a human being - your upbringing does.

Nor education, not upbringing makes you who you are just by itself. There are many pieces of a puzzle of a personality. Relying on that one part of this puzzle will give you what you want if you'll ignore other parts is not so wise. Of course some people can succeed with this strategy but majority can't. Of course each of us sees ourselves as outstanding persons, but we are still can be imagines as a statistical probability. And getting education makes us statistically more competitive. It can be embodied or not but losing an opportunity to become a better version of self just because we think we are already wonderful... well, I don't think it's a right choice.

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April 09, 2023, 04:58:34 PM
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I met some very cheap educated people and some very outstanding poor people
Education does not make you a human being - your upbringing does.

Nor education, not upbringing makes you who you are just by itself. There are many pieces of a puzzle of a personality. Relying on that one part of this puzzle will give you what you want if you'll ignore other parts is not so wise. Of course some people can succeed with this strategy but majority can't. Of course each of us sees ourselves as outstanding persons, but we are still can be imagines as a statistical probability. And getting education makes us statistically more competitive. It can be embodied or not but losing an opportunity to become a better version of self just because we think we are already wonderful... well, I don't think it's a right choice.
I was after degree all the time - but now I realise I am an artist and I need to learn some skills.
Have I been smart enough to learn skills earlier in my life I would have been more successful

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April 09, 2023, 06:19:20 PM
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Financial awareness is really important not only for the future but even old people regretted not learning those knowledge at am early age, but as what I noticed from them is that, those knowledge are earned through accumulation of trial and error, faolure after failure along with not wanting to give up by any means.

Education through earning experience is often doesn't work in finance. Many are making the same mistakes again and again because some knowledge is not intuitive: how will you guess that while you haven't sold you didn't lost when all charts show you did? If you are not giving up making the same mistakes then you just keep losing. Of course some can learn something on their own mistakes (otherwise how could we got this knowledge?) but majority needs at least a basic education to know some simple things about trading and investing not to lose too fast.
Basically, theoretical knowledge is also needed in all fields, especially in fields related to finance. Education is important in all aspects of life. although we can get knowledge from an experience. but sometimes we also need more systematic knowledge that is obtained from formal education. learning from a mistake is indeed a more valuable thing because we have experienced it firsthand. but the reality is that not many people can do it, that is, not many people can learn from the mistakes they make. for example, in trading crypto, many keep making mistakes over and over again. but those who have a mentor and learn from a mentor sometimes they learn faster and experience less defeat because they are guided by experts in their field. In essence, we need education as well as guidance and experience if we want to succeed more quickly. whether it's in increasing financial or other things.
many practical lessons which we have learned in life we never taught in the school or college
All the theoretical knowledge is not something which we need in our life for real life.

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April 09, 2023, 11:08:04 PM
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yeah i agree with what you said. because to make more money we certainly need education or insight or skills. that will make our work appreciated. like an architect who can make a lot of money just by drawing the architecture of a building ordered for a construction and of course the resulting drawings also cannot be made by people who have no knowledge of architecture. and that architectural knowledge is what makes it worthwhile. while people who do not have enough education and skills insight, then they work using the majority of power, so maybe they can only produce a little even though they have worked hard longer.

Higher education and special (additional) education are slightly different things. When we get higher education, we are given both the knowledge we need and the knowledge we don't need. When we get a special education, we choose the subjects we need. That is why I personally think a purely higher education is unnecessary (I graduated from the institute, but I do not earn by the specialty obtained in the institute).
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April 10, 2023, 04:34:47 AM
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I agree - knowledge is the way to prosperity one should keep educating oneself
The more skill and education one gets the more refined the person become.

The only question is whether a person who has received an education can then realize his potential within his own country, or whether he has the opportunity to go to another country and realize his potential there.
Unfortunately, there is a good "bad example" - the USSR. It seems that education was not the worst, and even higher education was not bad - many students came from many countries to receive it. But for the local population - the inhabitants of the USSR, there were actually no ways to realize their potential! Yes, there were some institutions that designed something, developed something - but 99% of it was primitivism, which turned into a strong technological, industrial, medical and other lag behind developed Western countries. And initiatives - if not punished, then "put in a folder", and then they forgot about them ... And one of the reasons is the lack of a normal competitive market in the country.
I met some very cheap educated people and some very outstanding poor people
Education does not make you a human being - your upbringing does.
Yes, I also think that education doesn't always teach people to live. Sometimes people know what to live. There are some places where education has no value. I have some places where there is no work without education. So it can be said that not everything works in all places. But  Along with education money is needed. I have seen some people who have no education but they have money and they are in a very good position in the society. I have seen some educated people who are in a very bad position because they don't have money.

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April 10, 2023, 04:54:36 AM
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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
Everyone earns money but few can get education.If you equate education with money then you are not an educationist. You have little interest in education. Education is something that no one else can share. Education can take you to the highest level based on your merit. You may know that educated people are currently ruling various countries. Doctors, engineers, scientists, but these did not happen without education. Just because money has value in life does not mean that earning money should be the main objective. You need to be well educated first. When you are well educated you will know this society well and earn money. Of course education should be chosen first.
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
Our aim is to get education but not to get a job.  Education should be earned for oneself. The knowledge we gain through education can be distributed to 10 other people. And if we distribute our knowledge among 10 people, those 10 people will express their interest to be educated in good education, thus the education will spread. You might say that the amount of work space is very low in the current context.  Everyone has different careers, so if you get a good education, I don't think you should be unemployed.

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April 10, 2023, 05:27:46 AM
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I agree - knowledge is the way to prosperity one should keep educating oneself
The more skill and education one gets the more refined the person become.

The only question is whether a person who has received an education can then realize his potential within his own country, or whether he has the opportunity to go to another country and realize his potential there.
Unfortunately, there is a good "bad example" - the USSR. It seems that education was not the worst, and even higher education was not bad - many students came from many countries to receive it. But for the local population - the inhabitants of the USSR, there were actually no ways to realize their potential! Yes, there were some institutions that designed something, developed something - but 99% of it was primitivism, which turned into a strong technological, industrial, medical and other lag behind developed Western countries. And initiatives - if not punished, then "put in a folder", and then they forgot about them ... And one of the reasons is the lack of a normal competitive market in the country.
I believe not all the rich people have a higher degree. Most of the rich people in our time are school drop off
or they have never been to school that is how they get the motivation to find their way and earn some money for their livelihood

Can you give some proof, people who never go to school can be successful? I have not seen anyone like that in my area or anyone in the world like that. Or are you talking about billionaires like Bill Gates, and Elon? They don't have university degrees, but they are excellent students while still in school. Without education you will be useless, you will do nothing in life.

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I was after degree all the time - but now I realise I am an artist and I need to learn some skills.
Have I been smart enough to learn skills earlier in my life I would have been more successful

Many think that if they'll focus on some exact undertaking they'll succeed faster and better, but it's usually not so, especially for creative works. To paint something outstanding you need to have your own unique experience and your efforts in getting a degree is a part of it. There is a lot of education I rarely use in my life but all of it made me who I am and I use results of both education and experience if not everyday then very often. Maybe I could learn more purposefully but then it wouldn't be me, but someone else with a different life. And I prefer to stay me.

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I was after degree all the time - but now I realise I am an artist and I need to learn some skills.
Have I been smart enough to learn skills earlier in my life I would have been more successful

Many think that if they'll focus on some exact undertaking they'll succeed faster and better, but it's usually not so, especially for creative works. To paint something outstanding you need to have your own unique experience and your efforts in getting a degree is a part of it. There is a lot of education I rarely use in my life but all of it made me who I am and I use results of both education and experience if not everyday then very often. Maybe I could learn more purposefully but then it wouldn't be me, but someone else with a different life. And I prefer to stay me.
Money and education both are important but you can't deny this fact that money is more important now to achieve anything in life like good education  or to start a new life or business nothing is possible without money .
Even for getting a good formal education and degree you should have money and resources.

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I believe not all the rich people have a higher degree. Most of the rich people in our time are school drop off
or they have never been to school that is how they get the motivation to find their way and earn some money for their livelihood
I think there are indeed some people in this world who can be successful but do not pursue formal education and yes I admit that there are some people who can do that but people who can do that 1:1000 who can do it and it will be difficult for ordinary people, the fact is that more people are successful through education first, but still everything returns to their own mindset in carrying out their aspirations to be better or not, it's just that people who get education first they always get more encouragement to build themselves more well, than people who are self-taught and they are people who are able to be consistent and self-motivated better.

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Money and education both are important but you can't deny this fact that money is more important now to achieve anything in life like good education  or to start a new life or business nothing is possible without money .
Even for getting a good formal education and degree you should have money and resources.

If you don't know how to use your money you'll lose everything, doesn't matter how much you have. If you know how to earn you can have no money and you'll get what you need anyway. So no, I can't agree that money are more important than education. It depends on if you know how to deal with each of them: if you know, you'll get, if not, you'll lose. And if you have none it is much more frustrating: as it is hard to achieve anything if you don't have both money and education. Some can but very very few.

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Money and education which one of these is advisable to achieve?
They constantly say education is the key to success but in my country today many graduates don't have a job, and most of them are still fed by their parents, and that's not the way it's supposed to be.
And again they also said money is potency and fondness. Yes, money is power even if you are not a graduate or you haven't been to college before and you have the money you can even employ a graduate to work for you.
Presently now in my wonderful fatherland NIGERIA 🇳🇬 I can see the power of money.
Please any advice?
Money and education are two dope resources that can help you succeed, but they ain't interchangeable. Education gives you mad knowledge, sick critical thinking skills, and introduces you to new ideas. Money, on the other hand, can provide some financial stability and the chance to invest in yourself. But, ya gotta keep it real, not everyone can get access to education or financial resources, and some hella unfair systems can make it harder for peeps to get ahead.

Let me tell you something about Nigeria. It's like trying to run through a minefield blindfolded over there. Corruption and nepotism are the big bad wolves that keep talented and hardworking individuals from getting anywhere. But we ain't gonna just roll over and play dead, nah. We gotta push for education and economic opportunities for everyone, while also keeping it 100 about the obstacles we face. You feel me? But even in the midst of all the craziness, we gotta keep striving for personal growth and be empathetic towards others. It's all about that social responsibility, baby!
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April 11, 2023, 02:21:56 PM
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Many rich people don't have a degree, in my country many rich men that I know can't even speak English correctly.

They are that illiterate when it comes to education, but when it comes to money making and running millions of dollars worth of businesses, these men are very smart, sound education and knowledge are not the same things.

It is like reading how to shoot a Gun in a book vs shooting a gun at the shooting range, they are not the same experience.

I will rather have some not too high education and focus more on making money, I believe that getting well paid is what those degrees are for.





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education really cannot be a benchmark for one's success because in truth our goal of studying education is to seek knowledge not to earn money and this knowledge will be used to make money. knowledge is not only obtained by getting education up to university, even now university degrees can be sold buy like a car that is used for tax xi a lot of knowledge can be obtained from various things such as failure of a person's experience and many other things where we can get knowledge, but in the end the skill needed is the skill to make money,
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