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March 01, 2023, 03:06:38 PM
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if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.

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March 01, 2023, 03:09:49 PM
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if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.

Those who are saying that gambling is bad are those who had a bad experience of losing in it which is actually normal and is part of gambling. We can't always put the blame on gambling because we are the ones who are making decisions and choices. If we fail and lose, then that is not gambling's fault. Our mindset has an impact on how we define gambling.
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March 01, 2023, 03:11:23 PM
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The main point is self-control. Too much of anything is bad and if kept in moderation it can be fun and entertaining too. Just like alcohol, if kept in moderate amounts, although I strongly advocate against it and drugs.

In any such habit forming activity money is being spent to "buy" the fun and once it crosses the limits of fun and becomes a chase one needs to stop but that is the most difficult time to stop, just like pulling out before the peak. Grin

Hence gamblers who are getting addicted and cant keep their minds off gambling need to look back at their change in habits to start controlling them.

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March 01, 2023, 03:13:10 PM
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if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.

Fair point. But in my case I combine this 2 example of yours to define my self satisfaction in gambling. I’m always playing for fun and part of it is to win profit. I don’t hunt any jackpot or huge win out of my small bet but I’m also not betting just to have fun only and not expecting to win because a bit contradictory on why you gamble.

I play online games when I need to have some entertainment and gambling when I need a bit of profit and that’s what make me happy. But of course I don’t chase lose nor big win.

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March 01, 2023, 03:16:15 PM
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People losing 5 or 6 houses is the exception, not something that is widespread. And they had all those houses to begin with, which means they were rich, people usually have a house half paid for. It is normal to lose more than expected at a much lower level. On the rest of what you say, I agree, and also with the general statement of the thread. It is neither good nor bad, just like a knife. You can use it to entertain yourself like most people do and walk away with some extra cash from time to time.

The problem is when people put too much hope in something where the odds are against them.
It is exception but it does exists unfortunately. I have a friend whose father is a rich politician, and to be fair I kind of not feel sorry for him too much because it is corruption that got him that much houses, but he lost 11 houses over course of 5-6 years when he went to gambling, and that is why I feel like it is still possible to lose that much. People who can't control themselves while gambling is the bread and butter of this industry.

If everyone was like us who could control themselves, and limit their budget, then it wouldn't really make any sense to run a casino since casinos wouldn't be making too much profit. But when there are these type of people who lose everything, they start to make some serious profit.
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March 01, 2023, 03:19:52 PM
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if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.

Every approach through which you come through will serve you right as you have intended with gambling, not only applicable to gambling alone but every other things we are committed to doing, but the fact here is that some people deceives themselves by being untrue to themselves, how will you gamble without having a good understanding of what you gambles on, gambling is to serve you right once you have the qualifications that warrant it, we must enjoy gambling and never be careless about things that may deprived us from enjoying gambling, both in having run and making money.

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March 01, 2023, 03:20:49 PM
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William Shakespear said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad, but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.
William Shakespeare must have lost his goddamn mind for saying that there is nothing good or bad, only thinking makes it so.

We have SIN for a reason, the human mind have a conscience for the same reason too, if I am born of a serial killer there is a chance that I have the same killing hunger inside of me, I don't have to think or feel, so killing people to me is just normal as far as I don't think it's bad, this is disgusting of him to say that.

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March 01, 2023, 03:53:45 PM
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Right it's not good nor bad according to me also and we all have our explanations about the same.Like for me it's not good as we are utilising our funds without any hope of getting them back or anything in return and it's not bad if we are not becoming addicted towards it as we are treating it for entertainment purposes only as game.So we all have our points but yes it's not good nor bad at the last.

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William Shakespear said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad, but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

This is why I cringe whenever I hear or read stories of people who blame gambling for the loss of their entire life's saving or some negative consequence. The act of Gambling in itself is neutral. It is not to be blame for the harm that has befallen the individual but rather the individual's inability to control their emotions, finances, and time. I strongly encourage every newbie gambler as well as experienced gamblers to take responsibility for their actions and not using gambling as a scapegoat for their lack of discipline. If you approach gambling with discipline and self-control you will find that that it can be a fun and relaxing activity. Who else thinks so too?
I think in this case not only in gambling but in business, hobbies, work in the context you are talking about, everything can have a bad impact if we do it excessively or beyond reasonable limits because that will make people lose in the gambling they do. This really depends on everyone's perspective from where we see the side of gambling that will give a good conclusion, not good or bad. There is always a reason why something is good or bad so there may be some people who agree with you and people who disagree with you. In my opinion gambling will have a bad impact if you do not have mental and mind control because it is the easiest thing to influence when your do it.

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March 01, 2023, 04:32:42 PM
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if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.


I like what you have to say. which means, gamble for fun without aiming for high wins and just do activities for fun after a busy work routine. do gambling sessions, just to spend the remaining free time while making our minds more relaxed.
however, unnoticed. most of the gamblers, always expect to make money without understanding what it is doing. although consciously, that most of us know the risks of gambling. Unfortunately, the strong urge to get high wins from every gambling session makes many of us forget that initially we were just playing for fun. that in the end, when emotions overwhelm our minds, most of us are more motivated to chase losses which end up suffering bigger losses.

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March 01, 2023, 04:38:25 PM
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Why will you say gambling is bad? If you are addicted to gambling, then gambling is definitely bad but if you gamble responsibly then I don't see anything wrong in gambling. Whenever you are gambling always know when to stop, you shouldn't take gambling as a source of income, if you take gambling as source of income, then you will definitely end up being addicted to it and it will be bad to you, because you might even end up selling your properties just because you want to gamble, after selling it and you lose then you will start regretting.

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March 01, 2023, 04:40:28 PM
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if you gamble for fun, gambling is an awesome way for spending time.
if you gamble for "earning money" without understanding what are you doing (and trying to hit the big jackpot...) well yes, this is a serious issues and it's a waste of time too.


I like what you have to say. which means, gamble for fun without aiming for high wins and just do activities for fun after a busy work routine. do gambling sessions, just to spend the remaining free time while making our minds more relaxed.
however, unnoticed. most of the gamblers, always expect to make money without understanding what it is doing. although consciously, that most of us know the risks of gambling. Unfortunately, the strong urge to get high wins from every gambling session makes many of us forget that initially we were just playing for fun. that in the end, when emotions overwhelm our minds, most of us are more motivated to chase losses which end up suffering bigger losses.

Many gamblers may unwittingly find themselves in a bad situation. The gambler must know his limits. Otherwise, it can go beyond entertainment and cause great harm. And he should know that there is a risk at every stage and that if he cannot control himself, the damage will become even greater. The best option is to know how to have fun and to gamble only for pleasure.

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March 01, 2023, 04:53:48 PM
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In life generally, too much of everything is bad.To be honest with you, there is nothing bad in gambling. Gambling is bad depending on the perceptive you are seeing it from or your understanding towards it. Gambling is bad when it becomes an addict and no application of self descipline. You can see gambling as a good idea when you gamble out of control by taking loans, selling of your properties.  It becomes a good thing and so fun when you gamble with caution and self control. And not getting addicted to it.
I must say i strongly agree with you that gambling is Neither bad or good.

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Gambling can be viewed positively or negatively depending on a variety of factors. It can be a fun form of entertainment and a way to make money, but it can also lead to addiction, financial difficulties, and negative social consequences. If you have a gambling addiction, you should weigh the risks and benefits and seek help.
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@alastantiger I read through the source again that you quoted and what came to my mind is another issue besides all of us being individual and growing up in different environments.

"In my opinion, we should really be working to change our minds before we think to change our environment."

I do like the quote and there are many good reasons to argue in favor of it, but particularly today there is a whole range of environmental externalities that shape our minds before we even had a fair chance to shape our minds themselves. Now I could go from fake news to children becoming terrorists because of indoctrination and so on and so forth, but when we stick to the topic of gambling, the information we receive about it is skewed to the extent that to find out whether or not it is good or bad, we need to collect our own experiences. Gamblers usually don't talk about their losses, that is at least how I perceived it ever since I was interested in the topic. Everyone talks about the winnings and how smart they are at analysis of the odds. Then there is legitimization through well known and sometimes reputable celebrities who act as brand ambassadors, people who we would not expect to want or accept any harm for us.

People who are good at maths shape their own minds intellectually and have a stronger ability to filter that noisy and skewed environment for what is most likely to be true. But not everyone has that ability and companies understand whom to target and how to target. That is why I do think that those who are able to carry more responsibility than others also should use that ability to change the environment for the better, for a state that is more representative of reality today than it was yesterday.

The philosophical question whether gambling is neither good or bad can't be finally answered anyway if we don't define certain parameters. If you take a speed limit, is it good or bad? I don't know, but I guess in terms of the number of people dying in car accidents it might be good because less people die.

If we look at gambling from a social perspective it might be good if someone gambles, wins money and distributes it to those in need. It could be bad individually if someone gambles, wins and then has more money to spend on deadly drugs.

I think this is where your statement could make sense because there is no way to determine whether it is good or bad if we don't define parameters and then evaluate the pros and cons of a discussion based on those parameters.

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March 01, 2023, 05:11:20 PM
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It is bad because in human nature we have difficulty to control our emotions when something bad is happening like losing in a game play session and we want to revert it back,the loss,so the majority of us keep playing and chasing the lost amount of money with the hope that they will get it back.It is exactly this greediness trap that is hidden deep inside our nature that the majority of people say gambling is bad and it actually is for the majority who cannot control their behavior and emotions.It can be beneficial only to those who play an x amount of money a week and call it a day whatever the outcome,either they win or either they lose.

So based on this it is 85% bad and 15% good.
So many people sees gambling as something bad due to the fact that it always ruin people who don't have self control on it. Some persons might learn how to gamble from a friend and will forget to know about the pros and cons of gambling. Such people will always fall into the addiction of gambling in the sense that it will gradually eat them up,if they see it as a way to make profit or start chasing their losses. Gambling also involves the careless spending of money that can be used to assist people in need from both discipline gamblers and indiscipline gamblers. Gambling for fun helps those of us that are already into it to control ourselves.
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March 01, 2023, 05:12:12 PM
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This is subjective to how the player reacts and what was used to wager; A gambler who used money he could afford to lose is playing for fun, entertainment, and hobbies that can kill time instead of being bored and he is ready to accept the outcome of what game predicted, this is what good gambling portray but gambling becomes bad when the player wager money his not ready to let go and becomes emotional when the result didn't favor him, this is when gambling becomes unhealthy to a gambler, this is what I feel gambling play in our lives and the best of it should be for fun.

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Gambling being good or bad is a little subjective to me, and can only be either of the two if some parameters are met, for instance, it could be good if you are only ever using it for entertainment and pleasure. Say you're stressed from the daily hustle and bustle, you go to your local pachinko to maybe let off some steam and inevitably spend a couple dollars in the process. In this situation, gambling could be considered good, it's regarded as a valid pastime, and is no different from you playing a game to relax or watching a movie or two to wind off. Now, it could be bad if you find yourself addicted to it, and are gambling solely for the purpose of winning and earning money. Gambling will more likely burn through your pockets before you could ever bag a win, and that will just create a positive feedback cycle of chasing wins and losing in the process, until you find yourself in an inescapable hole of debt and depression.

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William Shakespear said,  'there is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so. The nature of things is neutral and it is our perception and thinking that gives them a positive or negative meaning. In the same vein I say, there is nothing either good or bad with gambling, but our actions and inactions make it so. People who gamble their entire savings and have the guts and shamelessness to come online and say "Gambling is Bad. Stay away from it" must understand that gambling itself is neither good nor bad, but our actions and behaviors surrounding it determine whether it is beneficial or detrimental.

Your statement about gambling is correct.
I have to support your topic because I understand how gamblers behave when they lose bet and compared to when they win.
If a gambler loses all he has he will come out and confess how bad gambling is and the people we say that it is gambling addiction. And they will refer him to a therapist to help him recover his mental wellbeing, but if another Gambler uses $1 to win 10000 dollars everybody will praise the Gambler for being lucky and The Gambler will tell you how good gambling is.

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March 01, 2023, 07:47:21 PM
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Gambling as it implies is using what you have in other to get what you are not sure getting, gambling is bad because when you are addicted to gambling you will involve yourself in somany things to satisfy your urge and in so doing it will affect you negatively, in other words gambling is good because it serves as a debt free tools to winners.
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