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March 02, 2023, 09:55:01 PM
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In my opinion, the best incentive for gamblers at online casinos is a higher percentage of payout, honesty of the owner and a low threshold of withdrawal because it increases the probability of winning, but most of them come to the casino because of the winnings. And it doesn't matter what it will be, as even a small win makes our body produce dopamine, which is what attracts us to gambling.
The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.

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March 02, 2023, 10:17:26 PM
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House edge is biggest factor why casinos make so much money, some casinos offer highest reward to high level Vips. Bc.game  offers exclusive Vip benefits on 5 star hotel suits with reimbursing travel fees. Svip accounts have this opportunity but I think concrete cash rewards are better than offline offers.
^Definitely right that the house edge is a significant factor that contributes to the profits of casinos.
It is good for the casinos that are constantly looking for ways to enhance their players' experiences and incentivize their high rollers to keep coming back. Whether it is through a lower house edge or exclusive VIP benefits, casinos understand the importance of providing value to their customers. Because if I am a gambler, luxurious accommodations, and travel reimbursements can provide a level of convenience and comfort that may be more valuable to some players than a simple cash reward.
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March 02, 2023, 10:31:07 PM
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I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable?

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?
That's interesting but how can you offer that to online players who live on the other side of the globe, will you send money to hotels or travel tours to do that on behalf of the casino, that's quite complicated and not all casinos will go to the extent of doing that.
Offline casinos are very much different from online casinos, offline casinos can offer free dining and free room in one of the rooms where the casino is located, many casinos are located in first-class hotels and it's easy for them to do because they have the players physically present, online casinos will need to hire the service of agency to do that.

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March 02, 2023, 10:50:29 PM
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In my opinion, the best incentive for gamblers at online casinos is a higher percentage of payout, honesty of the owner and a low threshold of withdrawal because it increases the probability of winning, but most of them come to the casino because of the winnings. And it doesn't matter what it will be, as even a small win makes our body produce dopamine, which is what attracts us to gambling.
The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.
Its business and not a charity which it would really be just a wrong mindset and believe that these companies or owners would really be lowering out something just to give out some advantage into its players?

Its just a suicide thing and no business would definitely be doing such thing because they do know that it could really make a huge effect on them on longer runs.They might really be altering some percentage
but not that much because house would be always at advantage and they wont really be letting themselves being on the negative side.

About offerings and bonuses then it would be understandable that there are things which arent applicable on a certain key area.

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March 02, 2023, 11:13:30 PM
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House edge is biggest factor why casinos make so much money, some casinos offer highest reward to high level Vips. Bc.game  offers exclusive Vip benefits on 5 star hotel suits with reimbursing travel fees. Svip accounts have this opportunity but I think concrete cash rewards are better than offline offers.
^Definitely right that the house edge is a significant factor that contributes to the profits of casinos.
It is good for the casinos that are constantly looking for ways to enhance their players' experiences and incentivize their high rollers to keep coming back. Whether it is through a lower house edge or exclusive VIP benefits, casinos understand the importance of providing value to their customers. Because if I am a gambler, luxurious accommodations, and travel reimbursements can provide a level of convenience and comfort that may be more valuable to some players than a simple cash reward.

This is an interesting thing to point at- house edge does indeed give casinos the "edge" in terms of their overall strategy and winning on their matches.

Though online gambling casinos are designed and created under the mechanics of provably fair inputs, how does this apply in physical casinos? I am quite curious if there is a difference between gambling online vs gambling in a physical casino in terms of winning/losing.

I remember I visited this physical casino in our country and there was this old guy who was famous for notoriously betting huge amounts of money in a single night. Quickly, all the servers went and served him the best whiskey that they could find. He also seemed like he was a God there with all the complementaries being offered at him.

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March 02, 2023, 11:21:52 PM
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I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable?

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?
That's interesting but how can you offer that to online players who live on the other side of the globe, will you send money to hotels or travel tours to do that on behalf of the casino, that's quite complicated and not all casinos will go to the extent of doing that.
Offline casinos are very much different from online casinos, offline casinos can offer free dining and free room in one of the rooms where the casino is located, many casinos are located in first-class hotels and it's easy for them to do because they have the players physically present, online casinos will need to hire the service of agency to do that.
My same point in my first reply.
Online gambling sites may have other things to offer but it will be way different than physical casinos giveaway. Bonuses are the first that will pop into our minds since it's the easier method and can instantly be given. But, if gamblers are willing to wait, gift checks or things can also be a good choice.
If they are cryptocurrency-based casinos and sports bookies, something like jerseys, memorabilia, or collectibles can also be offered. Package deliveries are not that expensive at this time anymore, or if they really want to go cheap, NFTs can also be a choice.
There are so many ways now to make an online gambling site more exciting, it's just that it became limited because of the pandemic that happened.
It will take some time for adjustments.

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March 02, 2023, 11:24:12 PM
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I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable? shipping comps to players for time spent and money lost playing online isn't it a strong marketing technique for an online casino that wish to boost its customer base and attract more players? Was wondering and even researched to see online casino slot clubs, but didn't find any. Do you belong to a slot club offline or online? Maybe the free playing bonus represents that for online casino, yet players complain how difficult it is to win playing with bonus.

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

Yeah, I have been a member of several online casinos in my area, few benefits here and there but sometimes I will be chosen as random winners, but just for small winnings, but in terms of like raffles for cars, I have never won it.

Although one time as a member I was given a free hotel stay for a night or two.

I'm not a high roller or something though. As for those so called "free" bonus, the chances are very slim to win on it, but I know people who got money from just free spins being offered by some casinos.

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March 02, 2023, 11:59:13 PM
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Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

I think the adjustment should be on the low rollers. The current bonuses given on what you see at some sites should be enough, at least.

It's unfair if low rollers will also have a good offer that is not that closed against high rollers. In order to achieve something big in rewards at any platform, then the users themselves should make their way up to build and establish their respective accounts.

Online casinos are giving good perks to high rollers because they are just returning the effort that these gamblers did and staying loyal.
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March 03, 2023, 12:39:24 AM
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The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.
I remember this was one of the strategies that dice sites used to offer, they'd have a level system that focuses on lowering the house edge. I agree with what you've said and that's what casinos are doing nowadays through their VIP rewards, back then VIPs are only for high rollers and you need to hit a certain requirement to be eligible but now they're including every type of gambler and they can earn rewards as long as they're playing regularly.

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March 03, 2023, 02:25:54 AM
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House edge is biggest factor why casinos make so much money, some casinos offer highest reward to high level Vips. Bc.game  offers exclusive Vip benefits on 5 star hotel suits with reimbursing travel fees. Svip accounts have this opportunity but I think concrete cash rewards are better than offline offers.
what is 5 star hotel accommodation when they are earning millions of dollars from those VIP members  Grin
I think that is just a peanut of how much they are earning from each players .
I may not attain that VIP in every site I  played but of course the bonuses they are giving to me is enough for me to stay playing.
and about the House edges ? that is the money machine of each gambling sites  Grin

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March 03, 2023, 03:48:33 AM
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The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.
I remember this was one of the strategies that dice sites used to offer, they'd have a level system that focuses on lowering the house edge. I agree with what you've said and that's what casinos are doing nowadays through their VIP rewards, back then VIPs are only for high rollers and you need to hit a certain requirement to be eligible but now they're including every type of gambler and they can earn rewards as long as they're playing regularly.
Casinos have prepared more promotions for their customers but not all customers will be interested in joining them and will choose which one they prefer. Maybe every few days, the casino will send the promotion to all its members via email and there may be many people who didn't check the promotion so they are too late to join it. But the casino will give prizes to VIP members loyal to playing at their place using big money.

And reach the VIP level takes a lot of money and time, so not everyone can achieve it. And online casinos cannot provide promotions like offline casinos do because of the limitations that online casinos have. But online casinos will try to provide the best for all their members.

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March 03, 2023, 04:16:17 AM
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Well, just like the real casinos offer some free stuff to their customers, online casinos provide some things like: RakeBack, CashBack, VIP programs, free spins, chat rains, and Social Networks Giveaways...
Just a buttress-root, though not often but there are few cases where online casinos offers to provide unexpensed paid trips and free shoppings to high valued and VIP ustomers based on certain criteria sets just to boost and encourage more patronage. And they also have other little ways they carry the low spender gamblers along too.

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March 03, 2023, 06:15:51 AM
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I have tried to discuss this in the past, but it was shot down...

My suggestion was that casinos offer people discount vouchers for fast food or even vouchers for drinks at certain bars. There are definitely food and bar franchises out there that would partner with online casino's to offer vouchers to their customers.  Huh

My local "Brick n Mortar" casinos offer free drinks for certain VIP customers and a all you can eat buffet at a very low price... and that is definitely one of the things that draw many gamblers. They even have free babysitting services for the kids in a very secure entertainment area.  Roll Eyes

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March 03, 2023, 06:40:24 AM
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As a devout player myself, I must confess that I've never been drawn to the idea of joining a slot club - whether on the internet or in the physical world. That said, while loyalty programs in land-based casinos are more alluring, I believe that online casinos are working diligently to ensure that their players are content. There are many bonuses and promotions to be had that can prove to be quite profitable.

I support the notion of offering rewards to those who consistently place low bets. It's an excellent way to encourage players to devote more of their time and resources to the platform. Imagine winning gadgets, vouchers, or even trips to far-off locales! Naturally, the rewards should be reasonable and achievable; otherwise, players may become disheartened.

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March 03, 2023, 07:05:04 AM
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House edge is biggest factor why casinos make so much money, some casinos offer highest reward to high level Vips. Bc.game  offers exclusive Vip benefits on 5 star hotel suits with reimbursing travel fees. Svip accounts have this opportunity but I think concrete cash rewards are better than offline offers.

I don't think casinos would do that, because in the first place, they operate to earn cash against their players. Most of the time, the bonuses they offer is something that they already have or part of their assets, like hotel accomodations for a land base casino with hotel, or free rollers or some percentage cash in rewards for online casinos.
They don't literally give you cash directly.

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March 03, 2023, 11:39:09 AM
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I don't think casinos would do that, because in the first place, they operate to earn cash against their players. Most of the time, the bonuses they offer is something that they already have or part of their assets, like hotel accomodations for a land base casino with hotel, or free rollers or some percentage cash in rewards for online casinos.
They don't literally give you cash directly.
Even with online casinos they don't give you cash directly, they instead offer you opportunities to earn cash instead by offering bonus spins and whatnot. It's a non-existent thing at the time they give it out, and even if you use it, it only has a small chance of becoming something that actually exists. That's just how marketing works imo. As for brick-and-mortar bonuses, I've said it before in my previous post, it's simply partnerships and the like I think, they work together in a way that brings more profit than expenditures.

This is an interesting thing to point at- house edge does indeed give casinos the "edge" in terms of their overall strategy and winning on their matches.

Though online gambling casinos are designed and created under the mechanics of provably fair inputs, how does this apply in physical casinos? I am quite curious if there is a difference between gambling online vs gambling in a physical casino in terms of winning/losing.
Wouldn't it simply take into account randomness via human medium? I mean provably fair was only used in online since we couldn't exactly see the process behind finding the result, say the shuffling and checking of the table in poker.

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March 03, 2023, 12:36:19 PM
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In my opinion, the best incentive for gamblers at online casinos is a higher percentage of payout, honesty of the owner and a low threshold of withdrawal because it increases the probability of winning, but most of them come to the casino because of the winnings. And it doesn't matter what it will be, as even a small win makes our body produce dopamine, which is what attracts us to gambling.
The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.

What difference does it make to the casino owner how he will increase customer loyalty? Do you think that drawing a car will attract more players than increasing the return to the player conditionally from 91% to 96%? The car will win just one gambler, but the increase in return to the player will be felt by every gambler in this casino. If you still make a mechanism that will be open to all to confirm the rate of return to the player, it is sure to be a sensation.

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March 03, 2023, 02:54:58 PM
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I have tried to discuss this in the past, but it was shot down...

My suggestion was that casinos offer people discount vouchers for fast food or even vouchers for drinks at certain bars. There are definitely food and bar franchises out there that would partner with online casino's to offer vouchers to their customers.  Huh

My local "Brick n Mortar" casinos offer free drinks for certain VIP customers and a all you can eat buffet at a very low price... and that is definitely one of the things that draw many gamblers. They even have free babysitting services for the kids in a very secure entertainment area.  Roll Eyes

My take on this is that physical casinos are more inclined to offer those kinds of perks and advantages, because the consumption of drinks and meals is done very close to the casino or the gamble section. So people can feel more "in the mood" to gamble.

The challenge for online casinos is that they cannot be as sure as "brick n mortar" ones, that people are having the full experience of drinking or eating while gambling, to enhance the experience. Ideally, they want us to have a nice beer while rolling dices or playing slots.

A solution I see (that big online casinos could do), would be to partner with local restaurants/delivery services to send drinks and food to selected gamblers, while they are having a long session. It would be about some logistics and letting the casino know what one's preferred food or alcoholic beverage is. 

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March 03, 2023, 03:21:11 PM
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Its business and not a charity which it would really be just a wrong mindset and believe that these companies or owners would really be lowering out something just to give out some advantage into its players?

Its just a suicide thing and no business would definitely be doing such thing because they do know that it could really make a huge effect on them on longer runs.They might really be altering some percentage
but not that much because house would be always at advantage and they wont really be letting themselves being on the negative side.

About offerings and bonuses then it would be understandable that there are things which arent applicable on a certain key area.
I agree, different casinos has their own way to attract gamblers attention that will make them to stay, play or create account for them. It is really entertaining to play in physical casinos aside from you can meet your friends in real life and play with them you can actually play comfortably because of those things they are offering in online casinos they can attract people by giving some rewards, affiliate bonuses , free spins and it is more convenient to play online. Set for an example here in our country , an online casino hire many influencers so that people will gamble in their website.
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March 03, 2023, 03:36:44 PM
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Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

Yes of course there's nothing wrong with the online casinos giving it a higher tip to encourage it users, we also should in other way consider that live casinos makes implementation without having to go through the process an online casino goes through, they mean to effect any changes within minutes and this is base on the level of outcome they have realized in recent times, online casinos need to follow protocols before the  implementation of something nee for gamblers and they wouldn't want to risk their site been over crowded woth abuse on bonus whereas the gamblers are not staying, they can work on it by choosing the commited ones over years and appreciating them.

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