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March 13, 2023, 01:44:55 PM
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actually higher education is very much needed in a business that we run, and many people who like it today they are indeed people who already have a bachelor's degree and can cover all the kariawan they have today, when running a business we certainly need a little experience in our business, so that the problems we face can get solutions easily but people who are not highly educated but have mature experience and big puzzles  They are currently also experiencing tremendous success, so most importantly we must be sure that in running a business everything will go well.

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March 13, 2023, 03:04:30 PM
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I do know professors who drive a Porsche and live in a mansion. They are themselves running businesses sometimes or they are highly paid advisors to successful companies.
Pretty interesting, would love to see them. Can you tell us at least the name of universities where they work? I want to get MBA, already have Bachelor with good degrees and if any university has lecturers like the ones I described, I'm ready to study in that university.

A degree does help because it teaches you to persistently pursue an end goal for a longer period of time, frequently having to solve complex problems and to efficiently coordinate and distribute your time and intellectual capacity.

It is also sometimes the case that people who get higher education come across a topic during their research tasks that they identify as a potential area for future opportunities.

Saying there are no benefits and you can't get rich when going for higher education makes absolutely no sense.
I don't say that degree is useless and its bad for people to study, no. My point here was that one should make himself dependent on degree. Youth often think that if they get degree, they'll be able to start/manage a business and become successful and that's not reality. Business doesn't need degree. Internet gives us possibility to access all the information. What one needs to become a successful businessman is to study mathematics, statistics, physics, become social, become very confident or least look like that from outside, work on your charisma.
Math is a very important subject that people hate and don't want to study. Math trains your brain like doing repeating exercises with weights train your muscles and grow them bigger, stronger.

A university professor can engage himself in any business he wants but an uneducated person cannot make himself a university lecturer if he wants to. You just realize the value of education. No matter what job you do or what business you do if you have educational qualifications then you are better than everyone else.

If university professor can engage himself in any business he wants, why don't they do that? I think most of them are too much theory with less practice. And I don't underestimate the value of education, I'm just saying that Business Management and similar studies are scams offered by universities.




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March 13, 2023, 03:08:19 PM
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Do you have a receipt that proves most entrepreneurs have bachelors degrees? Because most of the degree holders in our country are not businessmen, and most of the businessmen here are not degree holders as long as the majority do not have bachelors degrees.

   Although I'm not saying that being a bachelors degree doesn't help. there are others like bachelors degree whose course is not in line with the business they are doing as far as I know.



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Do you have a receipt that proves most entrepreneurs have bachelors degrees? Because most of the degree holders in our country are not businessmen, and most of the businessmen here are not degree holders as long as the majority do not have bachelors degrees.

   Although I'm not saying that being a bachelors degree doesn't help. there are others like bachelors degree whose course is not in line with the business they are doing as far as I know.
Higher education does not make you rich but only broadens your horizons and opens the way for more logical thinking. If you are rich, it is like a person who works hard and works smart (use logic) and is supported by good luck, aka luck too. Important or not important lecture is up to you. Because the real key to success is hard work and smart work.

Many of the richest people in the world have no higher education. like Bill gats he is the richest man in the world he failed his exams and dropped out of his college because he thought that college could make him poor. But he didn't give up, he continued to sell, he always worked hard and worked smart, now he has a wealth of $ 129 billion
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March 13, 2023, 07:38:09 PM
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Do you have a receipt that proves most entrepreneurs have bachelors degrees? Because most of the degree holders in our country are not businessmen, and most of the businessmen here are not degree holders as long as the majority do not have bachelors degrees.

   Although I'm not saying that being a bachelors degree doesn't help. there are others like bachelors degree whose course is not in line with the business they are doing as far as I know.
Higher education does not make you rich but only broadens your horizons and opens the way for more logical thinking. If you are rich, it is like a person who works hard and works smart (use logic) and is supported by good luck, aka luck too. Important or not important lecture is up to you. Because the real key to success is hard work and smart work.

Many of the richest people in the world have no higher education. like Bill gats he is the richest man in the world he failed his exams and dropped out of his college because he thought that college could make him poor. But he didn't give up, he continued to sell, he always worked hard and worked smart, now he has a wealth of $ 129 billion
Not all those who failed the college became Bill gates of Steve Jobs. They have some amazing minds that is why they are unfit in the normal situation.
During Covid - most of the people with higher education and those with less education are on the same pedestal.
So that is why we can't say that without education one can be successful. .  .neither the higher education promise the fine job.


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I do know professors who drive a Porsche and live in a mansion. They are themselves running businesses sometimes or they are highly paid advisors to successful companies.
Pretty interesting, would love to see them. Can you tell us at least the name of universities where they work? I want to get MBA, already have Bachelor with good degrees and if any university has lecturers like the ones I described, I'm ready to study in that university.

It is normal for people that attained higher education like master's degree and PhD to drive luxury vehicles.  The have the knowledge and qualification needed to a higher payout or salaries.  Also they are often selected as advisors of and gain extra earnings from that service.  If you don't know about that, maybe the place where you are have not attained that kind of higher education.

A degree does help because it teaches you to persistently pursue an end goal for a longer period of time, frequently having to solve complex problems and to efficiently coordinate and distribute your time and intellectual capacity.

It is also sometimes the case that people who get higher education come across a topic during their research tasks that they identify as a potential area for future opportunities.

Saying there are no benefits and you can't get rich when going for higher education makes absolutely no sense.
I don't say that degree is useless and its bad for people to study, no. My point here was that one should make himself dependent on degree. Youth often think that if they get degree, they'll be able to start/manage a business and become successful and that's not reality. Business doesn't need degree. Internet gives us possibility to access all the information. What one needs to become a successful businessman is to study mathematics, statistics, physics, become social, become very confident or least look like that from outside, work on your charisma.
Math is a very important subject that people hate and don't want to study. Math trains your brain like doing repeating exercises with weights train your muscles and grow them bigger, stronger.

In my place, people think having a degree is one of the ways to a better life since they can have a starting line to earn money and sustain themselves.  If one have a sufficient supply, he will start to grow and venture to increase his productivity.  It is that many degree holders are just contented on what they have and do not improve themselves and explore the much bountiful field when they specialized in what they learned and achieve a higher degree of education.

A university professor can engage himself in any business he wants but an uneducated person cannot make himself a university lecturer if he wants to. You just realize the value of education. No matter what job you do or what business you do if you have educational qualifications then you are better than everyone else.

If university professor can engage himself in any business he wants, why don't they do that?

One major reason is that their earning is enough to sustain their living and have extra money to enjoy their life and save for their future.

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I think most of them are too much theory with less practice. And I don't underestimate the value of education, I'm just saying that Business Management and similar studies are scams offered by universities.

 It is up to them but doesn't underestimate a systematic way of learning to remember the knowledge taught in schools is already proven.  You may look at those courses as scam but if you analyze the course outline of it, it prepares student for that kind of field.  It involves math that needs to calculate certain mathematical equation that is needed in that job.  It also develops students the crticial thinking that is needed for that field.  It is that, many student failed to realized the importance of the lecture during their stay in universities.

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March 13, 2023, 11:13:24 PM
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Do you have a receipt that proves most entrepreneurs have bachelors degrees? Because most of the degree holders in our country are not businessmen, and most of the businessmen here are not degree holders as long as the majority do not have bachelors degrees.

   Although I'm not saying that being a bachelors degree doesn't help. there are others like bachelors degree whose course is not in line with the business they are doing as far as I know.
Higher education does not make you rich but only broadens your horizons and opens the way for more logical thinking. If you are rich, it is like a person who works hard and works smart (use logic) and is supported by good luck, aka luck too. Important or not important lecture is up to you. Because the real key to success is hard work and smart work.

Many of the richest people in the world have no higher education. like Bill gats he is the richest man in the world he failed his exams and dropped out of his college because he thought that college could make him poor. But he didn't give up, he continued to sell, he always worked hard and worked smart, now he has a wealth of $ 129 billion
Not all those who failed the college became Bill gates of Steve Jobs. They have some amazing minds that is why they are unfit in the normal situation.
During Covid - most of the people with higher education and those with less education are on the same pedestal.
So that is why we can't say that without education one can be successful. .  .neither the higher education promise the fine job.
I don't see education as a big and important thing that we need to do or enroll for. Education is there to help us in knowledge but we can get knowledge from experience and what we do. If you go to higher education and you did not get a job of your choice then you are wrong and I see it as a total waste of time. do not forget that education is important in our lives.

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March 13, 2023, 11:58:50 PM
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Do you have a receipt that proves most entrepreneurs have bachelors degrees? Because most of the degree holders in our country are not businessmen, and most of the businessmen here are not degree holders as long as the majority do not have bachelors degrees.

   Although I'm not saying that being a bachelors degree doesn't help. there are others like bachelors degree whose course is not in line with the business they are doing as far as I know.
Higher education does not make you rich but only broadens your horizons and opens the way for more logical thinking. If you are rich, it is like a person who works hard and works smart (use logic) and is supported by good luck, aka luck too. Important or not important lecture is up to you. Because the real key to success is hard work and smart work.

Many of the richest people in the world have no higher education. like Bill gats he is the richest man in the world he failed his exams and dropped out of his college because he thought that college could make him poor. But he didn't give up, he continued to sell, he always worked hard and worked smart, now he has a wealth of $ 129 billion
Not all those who failed the college became Bill gates of Steve Jobs. They have some amazing minds that is why they are unfit in the normal situation.
During Covid - most of the people with higher education and those with less education are on the same pedestal.
So that is why we can't say that without education one can be successful. .  .neither the higher education promise the fine job.
I don't see education as a big and important thing that we need to do or enroll for. Education is there to help us in knowledge but we can get knowledge from experience and what we do. If you go to higher education and you did not get a job of your choice then you are wrong and I see it as a total waste of time. do not forget that education is important in our lives.
Education is an important thing, one with education will surely understand and act accordingly. Experience will surely make way to success, but an educated persons way of execution and through experience have lots of difference. To implement what we learnt through education used to be simple, whereas the same through experience takes time.

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March 14, 2023, 12:16:58 AM
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I wonder if higher education will help for entrepreneurship?

Not necessary. If you want to be an entrepreneur you need to get into it and get first-hand experience.
But education is great too cos it will help you to look at things from a different angle and it could help you to see some opportunities or interesting business ideas.

I will disagree with the comments down below saying that people with Higher Education don't have a big business. There are a lot of entrepreneurs who create new tech companies or startups based on their expertise.
So if you have an opportunity to get a higher education I think it would be a good thing for you, but if you want to invest this money in business and you already have some ideas then go ahead.
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With a good education it can make our future better, if we are still in school then use school time to the fullest, study seriously so that we understand what is being taught, besides that we have to improve our abilities by reading a lot, especially now it's very easy looking for sources of knowledge because of the ease and facilities of the internet. if you have graduated then you must be able to use creativity and not be too rigid and always based on lessons at school.
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I think Higher education can equip entrepreneurs with the necessary skills to start and manage a business, such as problem solving, critical thinking and communication. It can also provide access to resources, such as mentors, networking, and funding. Additionally, higher education can help employers develop a better understanding of the industry and market they are entering. Although in reality there are also successful entrepreneurs who do not have too much education in their career journey.

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Higher education is certainly very necessary in this life, and the purpose of higher education is so that we have a lot of knowledge which is certainly useful in this life.

so the most important thing in education is knowledge, but usually not everyone can achieve higher education and that is usually due to the cost factor. but for now even though we are not in school we can still seek knowledge such as studying online on the internet.

that's why it's no wonder there are so many smart people but don't have SCHOOL experience. and the key is because the person seeks knowledge not from school but from his experience and hard work in seeking knowledge even though he is not in school.

so knowledge is needed in this life because in this life it is inseparable from the name of business.

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I wonder if higher education will help for entrepreneurship?

I am more interested in how much theory will help in this, because during a long study we do not get practice, this will be possible only when we start doing business, until that moment we will not be able to know how much it will help us.


Theory "may help", but many of the most successful entrepreneurs learned through trial-and-error. The entrepreneurs who got lucky in their first try without solving hard problems, because they merely followed what was taught to them in school/university, I'll call them lucky and say that they can't do the same success if they started another business.

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Statistically, 95% of entrepreneurs have a bachelor's degree or higher and I wonder, for those of you who are involved in entrepreneurship, how useful was higher education for you?


Can you post the link/source?

Plus I believe that statistic doesn't show the details. How many of them are actual successful entrepreneurs? How many of them took an actual entrepreneur course? Because a person studying to be a doctor could also be an entrepreneur.

It merely shows that there are currently too many people who have college degrees. It's laughable that today, you need to have a degree for a clerk job, or an low-level office job. The world today thinks Higher Education Diploma = Competence.

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Education on its own won't make you rich per say rather it would give you exposure . It will make you ambitious. They don't teach you how to make money in schools, they don't even teach you have to handle money, how money wirks. Education, especially higher education only broadens your mind to think really big. Part of this is because you've gone to school and you've seen business people doing well and you want to be like them (this is if you are someone who dreams to be an entrepreneur) so you start believing that being big as they are is possible. Higher education helps but it doesn't teach you exactly what to do as an entrepreneur, what it does is equip you to think for yourself and be able to make decisions that will help your business grow.
Then comes experience, the more you keep at the business, the more you learn from your mistakes and successes and keep getting better at what you do.

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March 14, 2023, 12:42:02 PM
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Do you have a receipt that proves most entrepreneurs have bachelors degrees? Because most of the degree holders in our country are not businessmen, and most of the businessmen here are not degree holders as long as the majority do not have bachelors degrees.

   Although I'm not saying that being a bachelors degree doesn't help. there are others like bachelors degree whose course is not in line with the business they are doing as far as I know.
Basically, this is how it happens, many do not work in their specialty, or open a business that does not correspond to their education. But this only happens because we often don't think about what we want to be when we go to university. Many simply go to the university to receive a diploma, and only after receiving an education they decide what they want to do in this life.

In addition, business opportunities can be seen in many directions and it is not necessary to pursue only those that correspond to your education.
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Rich celebrities don't have college degrees, but they're smart, they're born geniuses, and they also do well in high school. If they do not start a business but continue to study at university, they will easily get a university degree at prestigious schools in the world. While ordinary people like you and me, getting a college degree is extremely difficult. We are just ordinary people, and cannot be compared with such natural geniuses; how many people in the world have such talented people?
Higher education can be obtained by anyone who truly wants it. Celebrities are people just like us, and this does not mean that they are born geniuses, they can also acquire the necessary skills throughout their lives.

If talking about university degrees at ordinary schools, almost anyone can get it, but with prestigious university degrees from Oxford, Harvard, Cambridge, and Stanford... not everyone can get it. All are university degrees, but they will have different values.
Today's billionaires like Bill Gates, Elon, or Mark Zuckerberg, if they are not geniuses, what are they? And you see how many people in the world will be like them. They are not like us, if we are like them, why can't we be equal to them?

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Education on its own won't make you rich per say rather it would give you exposure . It will make you ambitious. They don't teach you how to make money in schools, they don't even teach you have to handle money, how money wirks. Education, especially higher education only broadens your mind to think really big. Part of this is because you've gone to school and you've seen business people doing well and you want to be like them (this is if you are someone who dreams to be an entrepreneur) so you start believing that being big as they are is possible. Higher education helps but it doesn't teach you exactly what to do as an entrepreneur, what it does is equip you to think for yourself and be able to make decisions that will help your business grow.
Then comes experience, the more you keep at the business, the more you learn from your mistakes and successes and keep getting better at what you do.
yes, that's right, in my opinion, a degree is just a gift from an education, people with a bachelor's degree are not necessarily successful and sometimes it is not uncommon for people who are not educated to become successful people, theory at school and experience in their fields are very different, so are smart people and geniuses cannot be equated. be smart in making decisions and opportunities in life.

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March 14, 2023, 01:35:03 PM
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There are many cases in history when people achieved significant success without having not only higher, but even secondary education. Nowadays, self-education plays a big role. The earlier a person gets on the path to building a career, the better. If necessary, it is always possible to get higher education remotely.
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March 14, 2023, 01:42:19 PM
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actually higher education is very much needed in a business that we run, and many people who like it today they are indeed people who already have a bachelor's degree and can cover all the kariawan they have today, when running a business we certainly need a little experience in our business, so that the problems we face can get solutions easily but people who are not highly educated but have mature experience and big puzzles  They are currently also experiencing tremendous success, so most importantly we must be sure that in running a business everything will go well.

Education is of course very much needed in developing one's potential, without education great potential can disappear, but we must always remember that higher education can never guarantee success, life is unique and full of mystery so what we can do is do everything with maximum.
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March 14, 2023, 03:36:53 PM
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The higher the level of education, the more specific theory will usually be studied, but again, that's just standard knowledge in all fields that can become obsolete one day. The rest is depending on how to adapt to real challenges, development, evaluation, improvement, and so on. Challenges will be different every time, you must still welcome new non-academic knowledge from various sources which sometimes actually provide more solutions.
And again the theory that we get from education if we don't use it in our activities in work or social activities will be forgotten because memory will be at stake in terms of education and theory, it's different when we learn from problems and challenges that we face directly.
Higher education will be very beneficial if what you get from college is in line with your profession, it will really help to make you better in your field.
Of course we shouldn't focus too much on academic education, but we also have to train ourselves in non-academic matters because something you believe in now can change over time in setting goals.
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