Russophobia as a phenomenon

[Alik Bahshi]

Alik Bakhshi

Russophobia as a phenomenon

If in the class all the students call one of them a fighter, then accusing them of a biased attitude towards him is at least unreasonable. Russian diplomats and propagandists accuse Western countries of Russophobia, so maybe not without a reason? It is no secret that Russian tourists were not particularly loved before the war unleashed by Russia with Ukraine.

 

The scale of Russophobia in Europe turned out to be much larger than Russian diplomats imagined, and, it is important to note here, Vasily Nebenzya, Permanent Representative of Russia to the UN Security Council, acknowledged this on February 23 during his speech at a meeting of the World Organization for Cooperation between the UN and the European Union. Thus, the diplomat said that although Russian politicians had no illusions about the presence of Russophobia in European countries, they did not represent the true depth of this phenomenon. If this circumstance takes place, then perhaps the cause of Russophobia should be sought in the Russians themselves and not accuse people of other countries of being biased towards Russians.

The reaction of the Kremlin to such a mass phenomenon as Russophobia is interesting: Valery Fadeev, head of the Presidential Council for Human Rights, proposed to legally define the concept of Russophobia and introduce criminal liability for its manifestation. Fadeev does not limit the operation of the law to the territory of Russia, in his opinion, in the future, when the opportunity arises, people living in other countries should also be punished. This Kremlin official appears to be confident that the Russian Empire will re-incorporate the former colonies. A certain Yury Khokhlov, the head of the oversight of the execution of Russian laws, does not lag behind him, recommending that Russophobia be regarded as extremism.

It should be noted that in the days of the USSR, Russophobia as a phenomenon was not noted in Western countries. The fact is that at that time the communist regime only allowed people from the intelligentsia to go abroad, moreover, those who had passed a preliminary test for loyalty to the regime. Everything changed when, after the fall of the regime, the Russian people got the opportunity not only to travel around the world, but also to live abroad. With the war in Ukraine, Russophobia became widespread in the status of a social phenomenon, and the majority of the Russian people supported this war. (1)

1. The reason for the aggressiveness of the "Russian world". https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/85537.html


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Alik Bakhshi

Russophobia as a phenomenon

If in the class all the students call one of them a fighter, then accusing them of a biased attitude towards him is at least unreasonable. Russian diplomats and propagandists accuse Western countries of Russophobia, so maybe not without a reason? It is no secret that Russian tourists were not particularly loved before the war unleashed by Russia with Ukraine.

 

The scale of Russophobia in Europe turned out to be much larger than Russian diplomats imagined, and, it is important to note here, Vasily Nebenzya, Permanent Representative of Russia to the UN Security Council, acknowledged this on February 23 during his speech at a meeting of the World Organization for Cooperation between the UN and the European Union. Thus, the diplomat said that although Russian politicians had no illusions about the presence of Russophobia in European countries, they did not represent the true depth of this phenomenon. If this circumstance takes place, then perhaps the cause of Russophobia should be sought in the Russians themselves and not accuse people of other countries of being biased towards Russians.

The reaction of the Kremlin to such a mass phenomenon as Russophobia is interesting: Valery Fadeev, head of the Presidential Council for Human Rights, proposed to legally define the concept of Russophobia and introduce criminal liability for its manifestation. Fadeev does not limit the operation of the law to the territory of Russia, in his opinion, in the future, when the opportunity arises, people living in other countries should also be punished. This Kremlin official appears to be confident that the Russian Empire will re-incorporate the former colonies. A certain Yury Khokhlov, the head of the oversight of the execution of Russian laws, does not lag behind him, recommending that Russophobia be regarded as extremism.

It should be noted that in the days of the USSR, Russophobia as a phenomenon was not noted in Western countries. The fact is that at that time the communist regime only allowed people from the intelligentsia to go abroad, moreover, those who had passed a preliminary test for loyalty to the regime. Everything changed when, after the fall of the regime, the Russian people got the opportunity not only to travel around the world, but also to live abroad. With the war in Ukraine, Russophobia became widespread in the status of a social phenomenon, and the majority of the Russian people supported this war. (1)

1. The reason for the aggressiveness of the "Russian world". https://alikbahshi.livejournal.com/85537.html


03/02/2023

It is phobia when the fear is irrational.

Fear of Russian genocidal maniacs is perfectly rational.

The vast majority of Russians are violent and aggressive. They hate Europeans and Americans.

Their culture consists of drinking, swearing, stealing, and most of all LYING.

Russkiy Mir only brings misery.

[mindrust]

I think we must fight against Russophobia because it not different than fascism. Why would people treat the Russians differently? They have eyes, noses and mouths like every other human being.

I am very saddened how these innocent Russians being treated in Europe. Is it a crime to be born Russian?

Europe should get its shit together and end their fascism against the Russians once and for all.

[af_newbie]

I think we must fight against Russophobia because it not different than fascism. Why would people treat the Russians differently? They have eyes, noses and mouths like every other human being.

I am very saddened how these innocent Russians being treated in Europe. Is it a crime to be born Russian?

Europe should get its shit together and end their fascism against the Russians once and for all.

Europe should deport all Russian-born residents and citizens back to Russia.

[Alik Bahshi]

I think we must fight against Russophobia because it not different than fascism. Why would people treat the Russians differently? They have eyes, noses and mouths like every other human being.

I am very saddened how these innocent Russians being treated in Europe. Is it a crime to be born Russian?

Europe should get its shit together and end their fascism against the Russians once and for all.

Europe should deport all Russian-born residents and citizens back to Russia.

 Yes, right! Russians must be deported! The fact is that most of them are young, and it is they who, as they have seen the advantage of democracy, should remove Putin.

[mindrust]

C'mon folks, we are better than this!





Let's kick fascism out of Europe.

[o48o]

For example in Finland where i live, next to Russia. We don't hate russians. But because of actions of their home country we are way more suspicious.
I have visited russia often and i have russian friends, my ex girlfriend used to organize travels for tourists in there. And before putin went crazy we actually had hopes of having good ties with the country.

But we fucking hate putler and putinist propaganda, and yeah for sure we hate russians who defend actions of putin yet choose to live in here. Same way as we hate handful of finnish trolls who are for putin. They are basically enemy combatants of refugees living in here and big middle finger to them. I think that they should be under same sanctions as people who live in russia.
Yet we don't judge anyone just by speaking Russian language. But if i was Russian living aboard, i would be so shamed of my country's actions i wouldn't want to risk it by speaking Russian language and would totally understand that there might be people who hate my guts.

Being a Russian now is like being a son of a Hitler. Sure, you are not responsible of the actions of your father but it's fair to assume you are being hated for him unless you are very vocal against him.

On the other hand, as we have free access to russian media, we can see how much we are being demonized there. We are the next nazis they are after as they definitely are paving the way to attack in here and want to "free" our people. For quite a long time now we have seen fake news in there as we can monitor them pretty easily. They are slowly turning their people against us too.

Russians on the other hand don't have access to free media. They don't know how we think about them. But they are being lied to how we think about them.

[paxmao]

I think we must fight against Russophobia because it not different than fascism. Why would people treat the Russians differently? They have eyes, noses and mouths like every other human being.

I am very saddened how these innocent Russians being treated in Europe. Is it a crime to be born Russian?

Europe should get its shit together and end their fascism against the Russians once and for all.

I have Russian friends, Georgian friends and Ukrainian friends. The "Russophobia" does not exist, is an invention of the Kremlin propagandists to justify their un-justifiable aggression. The world is not against Russians, it is against an illegal war waged by the current government and military ranks of the Russian Federation.

In war times, the enemy is the enemy and it is unclear who can potentially be a spy, so actors and others may of course be banned.

RE fascism and Europe, poverty attracts simple and wrong solutions to complex problems. Fascism is a simple and wrong solution that comes when people are disappointed with democracy.

[mindrust]

I think we must fight against Russophobia because it not different than fascism. Why would people treat the Russians differently? They have eyes, noses and mouths like every other human being.

I am very saddened how these innocent Russians being treated in Europe. Is it a crime to be born Russian?

Europe should get its shit together and end their fascism against the Russians once and for all.

I have Russian friends, Georgian friends and Ukrainian friends. The "Russophobia" does not exist, is an invention of the Kremlin propagandists to justify their un-justifiable aggression. The world is not against Russians, it is against an illegal war waged by the current government and military ranks of the Russian Federation.

In war times, the enemy is the enemy and it is unclear who can potentially be a spy, so actors and others may of course be banned.

RE fascism and Europe, poverty attracts simple and wrong solutions to complex problems. Fascism is a simple and wrong solution that comes when people are disappointed with democracy.

It exists in this thread. Have you seen these 2 guys' posts?

This one says most Russians are violent and only bring misery.

It is phobia when the fear is irrational.

Fear of Russian genocidal maniacs is perfectly rational.
The vast majority of Russians are violent and aggressive. They hate Europeans and Americans.
Their culture consists of drinking, swearing, stealing, and most of all LYING.
Russkiy Mir only brings misery.

Read the other dude:

Yes, right! Russians must be deported! The fact is that most of them are young, and it is they who, as they have seen the advantage of democracy, should remove Putin.

Why would all the Russians deserve to be deported? Just because they are Russians? Where is the common sense in that?

Now tell me these guys ain't Russophobes. They are indeed.

Or are you telling me... these guys are Kremlin propagandists acting like Russophobes?

Maybe you are onto something. Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if these 2 guys are hardcore Russians.  

The last time Europe went full Hitler no good thing happened to them. Hopefully it won't happen again.

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There is no reason to be russophobic, I think that all people ask for the same thing: to live a quiet life, not to lack anything, and to be in peace.
When we see the number of Russians who left Russia, I think that confirms this theory.

For me, there is no reason to hate the Russian people, during all my visits to Russia, I was extraordinarily welcomed by villagers and lovely Babushkas who invited to eat, drink, and who took time to tell me about their past life in form-USSR and actual Russia. This was more that interesting.

On the other hand, it is clear that many citizens (in Ukraine, Georgia, Chechnya etc..) have good reasons to hate Russian politicians and government.
I think that anyone with a brain is able to make a difference between the people and their government, even more so when you know how the Kremlin propaganda works, you can't blame a part of the people for being biased.

I imagine that Russophobia has origins dating back to the communist era, and that Putin's recent actions will not help some Westerners to not fall into the trap of mixing population and government.

In my country (I live in Bulgaria), the vast majority of people are clearly opposed to the invasion of Ukraine, but they are not russophobics. We should not underestimate people, it is not because 10 idiots make a lot of noise being racist towards Russians, that the majority of people are like them, quite the contrary.

[Alik Bahshi]

I imagine that Russophobia has origins dating back to the communist era, and that Putin's recent actions will not help some Westerners to not fall into the trap of mixing population and government.

In my country (I live in Bulgaria), the vast majority of people are clearly opposed to the invasion of Ukraine, but they are not russophobics. We should not underestimate people, it is not because 10 idiots make a lot of noise being racist towards Russians, that the majority of people are like them, quite the contrary.

  You are a Bulgarian, Bulgaria was not a colony of Russia, and the peoples of the Caucasus, for example, experienced the cruelty of Russia long before Communism. They were destroyed, deported. For example, the Circassian people disappeared, and this was one of the many peoples of the Caucasus. The remnants of this people today live in Turkey and Israel, they lost their homeland through the fault of the Russians. The same can be said about the other colonial peoples of the Russian Empire. And to evaluate their Russophobia in 10 idiots is not reasonable. And who is the idiot here is a big question.

[Hispo]

I thought it was clear we need to learn how to separate the government from the people.
The same way there are Russian citizens who believe that the invasion against Ukraine is okey and justified, there are also citizens who are against the war and the current political situation in the country, they just can't openly talk about it, because obvious reasons.

Discrimination against anyone only because their nationality is wrong and it is kind of a stereotype to believe all Russians are the same, so would be to assume all Americans are the same.

Also, this reminds me a case which happened recently over a video game with a Soviet style called "Atomic Heart", some people tried to cancel it just because of it.

[Alik Bahshi]

I thought it was clear we need to learn how to separate the government from the people.
The same way there are Russian citizens who believe that the invasion against Ukraine is okey and justified, there are also citizens who are against the war and the current political situation in the country, they just can't openly talk about it, because obvious reasons.

Discrimination against anyone only because their nationality is wrong and it is kind of a stereotype to believe all Russians are the same, so would be to assume all Americans are the same.

Also, this reminds me a case which happened recently over a video game with a Soviet style called "Atomic Heart", some people tried to cancel it just because of it.

Every nation has the government it deserves. When we talk about popular support for a country, we mean its majority.

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I would say that everything is propaganda, both sides had equal influence. For example, I can't remember a Hollywood movie where the Russians aren't some kind of villains or portrayed as bullies. again, it is not that the Russian side does not help in creating the overall picture.

Russians on the other hand don't have access to free media. They don't know how we think about them. But they are being lied to how we think about them.

a clear example of dictatorship. if we add to that poverty and a large number of uneducated people, it is a very suitable ground for manipulation.

It is phobia when the fear is irrational.

Fear of Russian genocidal maniacs is perfectly rational.

The vast majority of Russians are violent and aggressive. They hate Europeans and Americans.

Their culture consists of drinking, swearing, stealing, and most of all LYING.

Russkiy Mir only brings misery.

Is this your opinion based on your personal experience with the Russian people, or just what you saw in the movies or read on the Internet?

[Hispo]

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Every nation has the government it deserves. When we talk about popular support for a country, we mean its majority.

A democratic country has the government 51% of the people deserves and an authoritarian country may not even have the government a fraction of people deserves.
To be honest, it would very dumb and unfair to believe, for example, that all Brazilians are socialists because they have a socialist president. Or to say that the population of the United States is all pro war, even though there was people there who opposed the involvement of USA in the Vietnam war back in the day. Etc

So are we supposed to assume as well that all Cubans are socialists and love their government?  

[af_newbie]

I would say that everything is propaganda, both sides had equal influence. For example, I can't remember a Hollywood movie where the Russians aren't some kind of villains or portrayed as bullies. again, it is not that the Russian side does not help in creating the overall picture.

Russians on the other hand don't have access to free media. They don't know how we think about them. But they are being lied to how we think about them.

a clear example of dictatorship. if we add to that poverty and a large number of uneducated people, it is a very suitable ground for manipulation.

It is phobia when the fear is irrational.

Fear of Russian genocidal maniacs is perfectly rational.

The vast majority of Russians are violent and aggressive. They hate Europeans and Americans.

Their culture consists of drinking, swearing, stealing, and most of all LYING.

Russkiy Mir only brings misery.

Is this your opinion based on your personal experience with the Russian people, or just what you saw in the movies or read on the Internet?

Family history. Half of my family was murdered by Russians and another quarter died in gulags.

As for deporting all Russians, well, they all pose a risk. How many of them actively support Putin's regime? Do you know?

They have to be deported now or will have to be interned later.

All supporters of Putin in the West must be arrested and deported NOW. You can vet and deal with the rest later.

Russian imperialism kills people. If you underestimate it, you are in danger.

The West should stop diplomatic relations with Putin's Russia.

PS. Support of Putinism should be illegal in civilized countries.

[Alik Bahshi]

As for deporting all Russians, well, they all pose a risk. How many of them actively support Putin's regime? Do you know?

They have to be deported now or will have to be interned later.

All supporters of Putin in the West must be arrested and deported NOW. You can vet and deal with the rest later.

Russian imperialism kills people. If you underestimate it, you are in danger.

The West should stop diplomatic relations with Putin's Russia.

PS. Support of Putinism should be illegal in civilized countries.

  Russia must be isolated from civilization, like a prehistoric lizard that has survived to our time.

[o48o]

C'mon folks, we are better than this!
-cut-
Let's kick fascism out of Europe.
-cut-

That's weak, we have been combating far right all along. In fact Russia has been funding far right movements and these days those movements gets their news from Kremlin troll factories. It's Russia and other totalitarian countries that are not doing anything about their fascism.

I am willing to bet that same people posting these slogans wouldn't like to see Putin's fascist regime overthrown.

And sure, i am willing to bet there are handful of westerns that hate even common Russians.
Just like there are Russians babushkas hating Ukrainians. -> https://i.imgur.com/zvykFoq.mp4
And yes, i am sure this is a small minority of people just like in western countries.

[mindrust]

C'mon folks, we are better than this!
-cut-
Let's kick fascism out of Europe.
-cut-

That's weak, we have been combating far right all along. In fact Russia has been funding far right movements and these days those movements gets their news from Kremlin troll factories. It's Russia and other totalitarian countries that are not doing anything about their fascism.

I am willing to bet that same people posting these slogans wouldn't like to see Putin's fascist regime overthrown.

And sure, i am willing to bet there are handful of westerns that hate even common Russians.
Just like there are Russians babushkas hating Ukrainians. -> https://i.imgur.com/zvykFoq.mp4
And yes, i am sure this is a small minority of people just like in western countries.

Are you OK with these people wanting to deport these innocent Russians from Europe? What do you know about these people? (besides them being Russians) Maybe they hate Putin as much as you do. Would you feel sorry for them if they do?

They pay taxes, they have their right the vote. They are as European as the other Europeans now since they all have a European passport. What gives you the right to take these people's home from them?

They didn't kill the Ukrainians. They are trying to live their life just as anybody...

Racism is racism no matter which excuse you use as a cover.

If you hate Russia so much, why don't you ask the EU to nuke Kremlin?

[o48o]

Are you OK with these people wanting to deport these innocent Russians from Europe. What do you know about these people? (besides them being Russians) Maybe they hate Putin as much as you do. Would you feel sorry for them if they do?

They pay taxes, they have their right the vote. They are as European as the other Europeans now since they all have a European passport. What gives you the right to take these people's home from them?

They didn't kill the Ukrainians. They are trying to live their life just as anybody...

Racism is racism no matter which excuse you use as a cover.

If you hate Russia so much, why don't you ask the EU to nuke Kremlin?

Now you are just putting words in my mouth and making stuff up, why would i should be ok with racism? Because i implied that russia has their own racists?
And it very much sounds like you don't know what the fascism even means given that you are focusing on europe here.

And tell me, who is deporting innocent imaginary russians back to russia now?
Just because you can think of something doesn't make it real. Situation is quite opposite, we have literally taken russian refugees.

If you hate Russia so much, why don't you ask the EU to nuke Kremlin?

Why are you like this? Who said i hate Russians? Maybe do a reality check.