forget about value investing, you are not the house, you cannot win.

[gaston castano]

actually some successful motivators or investors on a large scale give their way without seeing the difference between them, for example someone with an income of say 1000 $ / month follows the lifestyle or style of a very rich person or runs their system with their very much different circumstances that is suicide .
so I guess what they say is true but our level is different and can't fully follow what they say, sometimes rational thinking is also important.

[Fortify]

if you are not the house, and have full control you cannot win. and you would also loss everything.

the 1933 incident tell me only one lesson, the reason president potus going full crack down on gold bars and gold certificate is all due to the government want to have control over the gold, by confiscating every gold bars they can have the control over the gold, also the control price of the gold, by having the control, the government can be the house of this gold market, price and the volume. Yes just three element they want to control to be the house, price, volume and the market, market is also called the buyer and seller, or called it bidder and asker market. Did the governemnt suceed in controlling the gold market to date? They seem to be having some success, but the gold is always unregulatable. Government confiscate gold bars is a certainty, unlike value investing which is a made up intellectual assumption and a lie.

what about the warren buffett always sing about his philosophy of value investing wherever he goes? A lot of young people on the /biz follow his books and some of them invest his life saving many of them even take out home loan to invest based on his value investing philosophy, some of the kill himself over the loss?

well in my opinion, warren buffett is a senile old man, and irresposible with his political views, he is politician in nature. For his value investing student, they become the victim of natural selection, by foolishly listen to a well known oracle of the omaha, they ended up commit a sin of crime without a victim but themselve to be blamed, they kill themselves over the loss and become part of a statistic to the eduacted one, despite many have been killed it would not changed the warren buffett opinion on his irresponsible advices.

Lastly why are the SEC now cracking down heavily on the cryptocurrency? in my opinion, the SEC is trying to capture as many control as possible, they can't allow the cryptocurrency to be completely free of restriction. the SEC want to be the house in this cryptocurrency, by being the house in cryptocurrency they can always win, there really isn't much lesson to be learnt, it is whether you are the house and you always win, or you believe in value investing and thinking it is truth like the religion, and loss your life saving.

but how about the many young people who follow the value investing advices and end up losing everything and some took it to themselves and end their own life? they are good and decent people who follow rules obediently but they end up having to kill themselves? idk I didn't create this society, I am unable to change this world, but the very little I can do is try to educate people on what is absolutelt wrong about this world, and I try not to be keep all to myself, and share as much as I could, so some can be saved, although many would still fall victim.

It some ways, I thank you because these sort of bad warnings and misguided opinions make it easier to find bargains in the market. Anyone who has been investing sensibly for some time will see that prices fluctuate for a company based on very little but random whims. If a share regularly trades between $1 and $2 dollars, maybe over the span of several years, then it obviously makes sense to buy in at $1 to sell it at $1.5 or $2. There is often little rationale in these movements, but I've seen it occur many times over the last few years. It is still alive and well, but don't for a minute think you can rush in and identify these assets without any losses, like anything - buying stocks is an art and sometimes you will rack up failures on the way.

[Ngewex Yuk]

Many people always recommend investing because they hope to make a profit one day, this cannot always happen due to many factors, what many people think above is normal and we as humans who have reason can of course choose which is the best for us. do, in investing of course there are profit and loss opportunities, if we want to have fixed money then keep money under the pillow, but remember there is inflation that can occur and make the value of our money decrease.

[Gayong88]

but how about the many young people who follow the value investing advices and end up losing everything and some took it to themselves and end their own life?

I think you pay attention to the news or follow the cryptocurrency market. I'm sure there are many people in this forum who are also interested in the concept of cryptocurrencies because of the advantages they can have in the market. Value investing will never be the only way to become a successful trader, as it is still necessary to know how to trade, anyone can speculate and do it often. And I agree with your statement about young people who end up losing everything and some taking it for themselves.

There will always be people who discredit value investing, but if we are honest with ourselves, it is clear that it works for some people and not for others. It depends how disciplined you are and what your risk profile is like. However, keep in mind that the market has shown a tendency to be profitable in the long run regardless of the investment strategy you adopt.

[maydna]

Many people always recommend investing because they hope to make a profit one day, this cannot always happen due to many factors, what many people think above is normal and we as humans who have reason can of course choose which is the best for us. do, in investing of course there are profit and loss opportunities, if we want to have fixed money then keep money under the pillow, but remember there is inflation that can occur and make the value of our money decrease.

Investing is one way to earn more money in the future. But of course, not just any investment can provide money because if the investment is not right, we will not be able to profit.

Crypto is one of the most popular investments and even if we don't have big capital, we can buy it with the money we provide to invest. And by using the DCA method, one day, the value of our investment will increase, especially if we invest in bitcoin. And even though some people doubt that we can get big profits, we don't need to listen to them because we believe that bitcoin can provide those benefits.

[Theones]

Many people always recommend investing because they hope to make a profit one day, this cannot always happen due to many factors, what many people think above is normal and we as humans who have reason can of course choose which is the best for us. do, in investing of course there are profit and loss opportunities, if we want to have fixed money then keep money under the pillow, but remember there is inflation that can occur and make the value of our money decrease.

Investing is one way to earn more money in the future. But of course, not just any investment can provide money because if the investment is not right, we will not be able to profit.

Crypto is one of the most popular investments and even if we don't have big capital, we can buy it with the money we provide to invest. And by using the DCA method, one day, the value of our investment will increase, especially if we invest in bitcoin. And even though some people doubt that we can get big profits, we don't need to listen to them because we believe that bitcoin can provide those benefits.

many people are very good with their finances. They swap from one thing to another - one card to another card and earn great profit.
I am not good with my finances so I only live within my means.

[shinratensei_]

I guess you just go against the wave in term of investing and just hoping for the best, here's the thing, we as small investors have small capital meaning we couldn't really do much against the market what we can do just finding some opportunities here and there, that's just the fate of those moneyless like majority of us, even though we gonna have hard time earning profit out of value investing but there's nothing much we can do, i'd say just keep trying finding some opportunities yourself.
what makes many lose money in investing is because some of them get that biased understanding that every investment will turns out good meanwhile many investment is just gonna make you lose money because there's whales ready to manipulate the market to their will eventually.

[STT]

Invest in the things you need is about the best you can do, housing being the most obvious and a few other things like energy perhaps.  Most people do best by forming their own business, operating efficiently and doing well in a growth sector hopefully.   Trying to do as well while investing is hard to do, it is biased to the house or market makers I tend to agree and they can trade out of hours and other tricks I guess.

[huu78]

I don't agree with you, because what I invest proves to grow and provide benefits for me.
the point is I get a return from my investment or trading.
So I do not agree with you, whatever theory you put forward.
bout that your opinion and all people feel free to share their thought

[Broly46]

...so I guess what they say is true but our level is different and can't fully follow what they say, sometimes rational thinking is also important.

of course we are not warren buffett. someone like to tell you can be wb, but copying anyone else is a frustrating effort, because you are not them you cant copy them exactly. you are not the house not matter how you copy them you still is not the house!

[kryptqnick]

If you aren't the house, you can't consistently win, unless it's a very skill-based area, but if you are the house, you can also lose if you don't arrange everything right.
Anyway, I clearly lack some context with the op here, it would be nice for the op to add links to sources for that. For example, I'm not sure what Buffett's position is, and, more importantly, where is evidence of the SEC cracking down on cryptos? They've repeatedly reiterated that Bitcoin isn't a security, so it doesn't have to do with them, and that's not something an authority who wants control would do. As for other cryptos, they aren't as important, and we should then talk about specific cases of where the SEC is making things worse.

[milewilda]

...so I guess what they say is true but our level is different and can't fully follow what they say, sometimes rational thinking is also important.

of course we are not warren buffett. someone like to tell you can be wb, but copying anyone else is a frustrating effort, because you are not them you cant copy them exactly. you are not the house not matter how you copy them you still is not the house!

This is why its better to do your own ways on which it would be in line on what you could really do or simply stick on whats your capacity or capability when it comes to finances.We should really be that rational
on things around because copying or trying out to achieve on what others attain would really be just messing up the things forward.You cant think off well because of the desperation that you should
really be able to precisely follow on what they had said or to those known billionaires and trying out to make yourself on the same path.This isnt
how things to be simple.

[Paul Pogba]

A house or land is a good investment and is always the first choice, because a house has legality so when we really need money we can pawn it or use it to guarantee debt, of course not all houses are always profitable, but choosing a location is the most important key to success in the home business .

[fadhilz123]

A house or land is a good investment and is always the first choice, because a house has legality so when we really need money we can pawn it or use it to guarantee debt, of course not all houses are always profitable, but choosing a location is the most important key to success in the home business .

In the last two years I have very often seen housing complex developers increasing now and the developer first bought a large area of land to build several housing units so that they could be sold to people who needed houses and some were made for rent.

Actually it's a very good idea for thinking like the developer, but for thinking like what you said I think it's still very risky if someone can't pay off their debts in a timely manner. Because the party giving the debt can of course immediately confiscate your land or house if their warnings are not heeded. So buying land or a house as an investment asset is indeed good, but I think using it to make debt is still not good because the risk is not small.

[Broly46]

...If a share regularly trades between $1 and $2 dollars, maybe over the span of several years, then it obviously makes sense to buy in at $1 to sell it at $1.5 or $2. There is often little rationale in these movements, but I've seen it occur many times over the last few years...

it is an analogue to a slot machine in the casino, you would see the colour flashing bright randomly, or it also produce number randomly, does it mean you would win the bet by reading the pattern? very high odd?

[wajik-tempe]

Regarding the SEC's crackdown on cryptocurrency, it's important to remember that regulations are put in place to protect consumers and prevent fraud. While some may view it as limiting the freedom of the market, regulations can also bring legitimacy and stability to the industry.
It's important for individuals to be aware of the risks and potential consequences of their investments, and to make informed decisions based on their own research and understanding