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March 25, 2023, 03:29:32 AM
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In the realm of particular classifications of conundrums and compensations, it would be wise to heed the desires and views of the players. There could be players who relish challenges that revolve around certain games or errands, whilst others might gravitate towards more overarching challenges.
actually that is why this thread is created mate , to ask their players and of course the whole bitcointalk community to what challenges they wanted to see and tasks .

maybe it is good if you will contribute yours for their Poll and can decide which to implement soon.


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for me personally? better to put a challenge in which game in your site that mostly played , meaning with the numbers of active players and bettors and also the wagering , then you can decide which is which .

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March 25, 2023, 06:33:16 AM
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Holding a competition is quite an interesting idea because every gambler can really try their luck and skill when playing in an ongoing competition.
But the casino must provide at least 2 different competitions where competition is separated from gamblers who have limited funds and gamblers who have more funds because if it is equalized then small gamblers who only play with less limited funds may not be able to survive the competition ongoing.
All types of development that will be carried out by casinos must be considered and processed carefully so that all gamblers, from small gamblers to big gamblers, can all benefit.

Remember that this is not a charity tournament or an official tournament which user need to be in same tier to have a fair fight. This is a casino competition and the goal for this activity is to push players to spend more to get the rewards. Casino is not obligated to reward all the players especially small time players because they are business and this competition is just their of marketing.

You will get a reward based on your contribution and don’t expect to get a huge return when you are just investing small amount.

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March 25, 2023, 06:55:26 AM
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Holding a competition is quite an interesting idea because every gambler can really try their luck and skill when playing in an ongoing competition.
But the casino must provide at least 2 different competitions where competition is separated from gamblers who have limited funds and gamblers who have more funds because if it is equalized then small gamblers who only play with less limited funds may not be able to survive the competition ongoing.
All types of development that will be carried out by casinos must be considered and processed carefully so that all gamblers, from small gamblers to big gamblers, can all benefit.

Remember that this is not a charity tournament or an official tournament which user need to be in same tier to have a fair fight. This is a casino competition and the goal for this activity is to push players to spend more to get the rewards. Casino is not obligated to reward all the players especially small time players because they are business and this competition is just their of marketing.

You will get a reward based on your contribution and don’t expect to get a huge return when you are just investing small amount.

You are right that casino is not a charity but it is not wrong for casino to give good rewards for small time gamblers from a tournament or competition. Duelbits did it in the past with multiplier contest every single week in this forum where participants can win nice reward. I have to agree with tusandii's suggestion that casino should care about both small and big gamblers as it is how a casino build their community.

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March 25, 2023, 07:14:38 AM
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Holding a competition is quite an interesting idea because every gambler can really try their luck and skill when playing in an ongoing competition.
But the casino must provide at least 2 different competitions where competition is separated from gamblers who have limited funds and gamblers who have more funds because if it is equalized then small gamblers who only play with less limited funds may not be able to survive the competition ongoing.
All types of development that will be carried out by casinos must be considered and processed carefully so that all gamblers, from small gamblers to big gamblers, can all benefit.

Remember that this is not a charity tournament or an official tournament which user need to be in same tier to have a fair fight. This is a casino competition and the goal for this activity is to push players to spend more to get the rewards. Casino is not obligated to reward all the players especially small time players because they are business and this competition is just their of marketing.

You will get a reward based on your contribution and don’t expect to get a huge return when you are just investing small amount.
It's true that this is not a charity tournament and the casino business is built to generate some profits.
However, if as you said that the casino does not have to give justice to all gamblers in order to be able to take part in tournaments then only rich gamblers participate and small gamblers cannot participate in casino tournaments and prefer to move to other casinos that can give them an advantage.
Casinos not only make strides to make gamblers spend more money but also have to be able to keep all gamblers to remain loyal customers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
If a casino is only concerned with the casino's own income then it won't be able to last long and I'm sure many gamblers will stop playing there.

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March 28, 2023, 10:24:49 AM
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Holding a competition is quite an interesting idea because every gambler can really try their luck and skill when playing in an ongoing competition.
But the casino must provide at least 2 different competitions where competition is separated from gamblers who have limited funds and gamblers who have more funds because if it is equalized then small gamblers who only play with less limited funds may not be able to survive the competition ongoing.
All types of development that will be carried out by casinos must be considered and processed carefully so that all gamblers, from small gamblers to big gamblers, can all benefit.

Remember that this is not a charity tournament or an official tournament which user need to be in same tier to have a fair fight. This is a casino competition and the goal for this activity is to push players to spend more to get the rewards. Casino is not obligated to reward all the players especially small time players because they are business and this competition is just their of marketing.

You will get a reward based on your contribution and don’t expect to get a huge return when you are just investing small amount.
It's true that this is not a charity tournament and the casino business is built to generate some profits.
However, if as you said that the casino does not have to give justice to all gamblers in order to be able to take part in tournaments then only rich gamblers participate and small gamblers cannot participate in casino tournaments and prefer to move to other casinos that can give them an advantage.
Casinos not only make strides to make gamblers spend more money but also have to be able to keep all gamblers to remain loyal customers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
If a casino is only concerned with the casino's own income then it won't be able to last long and I'm sure many gamblers will stop playing there.

The core thing about casino income concerns is rivalry: the cryptocasino market is intensively growing, and for any casino its a trouble to lose income level since rivals can use the excessive income to develop their networks and ad campaigns faster, which leads to troubles in further developing. That's why marketing specialists use not the strategies preferred by users, but strategies that raise funds faster... There is a common statement that marketing always makes more desirable things more profitable, sometimes there are attempts even to declare this as the law of marketing, but this statement is completely false, since income difference and personal priorities of target users and investors make more influence on total income and on income rate, than the fact of creating the most comfortable product.

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March 28, 2023, 10:56:10 AM
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I join competitions from time to time so I don't mind if another platform would offer it. I don't have specific features or unique reward program to suggest but just have a system to prevent multi-accounting. Nobody wants to compete against two or more accounts owned by the same person.
It is the abused that must be faced first and that is what I also hate to see having competing to multi account in every competition or event I am joining.
and also about challenges? i love to see the pot money in which the most important part of every challenges.
good luck Punt.com , waiting for this to be in prior so I would love joining.

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March 28, 2023, 01:59:48 PM
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Holding a competition is quite an interesting idea because every gambler can really try their luck and skill when playing in an ongoing competition.
But the casino must provide at least 2 different competitions where competition is separated from gamblers who have limited funds and gamblers who have more funds because if it is equalized then small gamblers who only play with less limited funds may not be able to survive the competition ongoing.
All types of development that will be carried out by casinos must be considered and processed carefully so that all gamblers, from small gamblers to big gamblers, can all benefit.

Remember that this is not a charity tournament or an official tournament which user need to be in same tier to have a fair fight. This is a casino competition and the goal for this activity is to push players to spend more to get the rewards. Casino is not obligated to reward all the players especially small time players because they are business and this competition is just their of marketing.

You will get a reward based on your contribution and don’t expect to get a huge return when you are just investing small amount.
It's true that this is not a charity tournament and the casino business is built to generate some profits.
However, if as you said that the casino does not have to give justice to all gamblers in order to be able to take part in tournaments then only rich gamblers participate and small gamblers cannot participate in casino tournaments and prefer to move to other casinos that can give them an advantage.
Casinos not only make strides to make gamblers spend more money but also have to be able to keep all gamblers to remain loyal customers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
If a casino is only concerned with the casino's own income then it won't be able to last long and I'm sure many gamblers will stop playing there.
Casinos, undeniably, are in the game to make a pretty penny, yet they must shoulder the responsibility of guaranteeing equitable treatment for every bettor, irrespective of their bank balance. It's not just about accumulating wealth; it's about crafting a just and morally sound milieu.

To accomplish this, casinos can adopt diverse strategies, such as instituting minimum and maximum wager constraints, thwarting affluent gamblers from monopolizing the competitions. They could also extend equal chances for the underdog to partake in tournaments and secure rewards.

Furthermore, we ought to scrutinize the overarching influence of the casino realm on our society. It's imperative to confirm that the proceeds obtained from casinos are allocated for the common good, funneling into education, healthcare, and community support initiatives.

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March 28, 2023, 04:11:38 PM
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Holding a competition is quite an interesting idea because every gambler can really try their luck and skill when playing in an ongoing competition.
But the casino must provide at least 2 different competitions where competition is separated from gamblers who have limited funds and gamblers who have more funds because if it is equalized then small gamblers who only play with less limited funds may not be able to survive the competition ongoing.
All types of development that will be carried out by casinos must be considered and processed carefully so that all gamblers, from small gamblers to big gamblers, can all benefit.

Remember that this is not a charity tournament or an official tournament which user need to be in same tier to have a fair fight. This is a casino competition and the goal for this activity is to push players to spend more to get the rewards. Casino is not obligated to reward all the players especially small time players because they are business and this competition is just their of marketing.

You will get a reward based on your contribution and don’t expect to get a huge return when you are just investing small amount.

You are right that casino is not a charity but it is not wrong for casino to give good rewards to small-time gamblers from a tournament or competition. Duelbits did it in the past with a multiplier contest every single week in this forum where participants can win nice rewards. I have to agree with tusandii's suggestion that casino should care about both small and big gamblers as it is how a casino build its community.

Only those who are just starting to build a bigger community will consider small-time gamblers when it comes to running events and contests. Most of them focus on and value big-time wagerers and bettors because their main goal is to keep their business running and to make a profit. Most of them run contests and events so there would be more players that will wager a higher amount so I don't think they will focus on rewarding small bettors. They aim to make a profit so they will surely have wager requirements and it's up to those small-time bettors who want to join the contest to find ways and exert effort to reach those requirements.
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March 28, 2023, 04:33:32 PM
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Holding a competition is quite an interesting idea because every gambler can really try their luck and skill when playing in an ongoing competition.
But the casino must provide at least 2 different competitions where competition is separated from gamblers who have limited funds and gamblers who have more funds because if it is equalized then small gamblers who only play with less limited funds may not be able to survive the competition ongoing.
All types of development that will be carried out by casinos must be considered and processed carefully so that all gamblers, from small gamblers to big gamblers, can all benefit.

Remember that this is not a charity tournament or an official tournament which user need to be in same tier to have a fair fight. This is a casino competition and the goal for this activity is to push players to spend more to get the rewards. Casino is not obligated to reward all the players especially small time players because they are business and this competition is just their of marketing.

You will get a reward based on your contribution and don’t expect to get a huge return when you are just investing small amount.
It's true that this is not a charity tournament and the casino business is built to generate some profits.
However, if as you said that the casino does not have to give justice to all gamblers in order to be able to take part in tournaments then only rich gamblers participate and small gamblers cannot participate in casino tournaments and prefer to move to other casinos that can give them an advantage.
Casinos not only make strides to make gamblers spend more money but also have to be able to keep all gamblers to remain loyal customers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
If a casino is only concerned with the casino's own income then it won't be able to last long and I'm sure many gamblers will stop playing there.
Casinos, undeniably, are in the game to make a pretty penny, yet they must shoulder the responsibility of guaranteeing equitable treatment for every bettor, irrespective of their bank balance. It's not just about accumulating wealth; it's about crafting a just and morally sound milieu.

To accomplish this, casinos can adopt diverse strategies, such as instituting minimum and maximum wager constraints, thwarting affluent gamblers from monopolizing the competitions. They could also extend equal chances for the underdog to partake in tournaments and secure rewards.

Furthermore, we ought to scrutinize the overarching influence of the casino realm on our society. It's imperative to confirm that the proceeds obtained from casinos are allocated for the common good, funneling into education, healthcare, and community support initiatives.
Therefore casinos must be able to protect all gamblers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
That way the casino can have a large and strong community because if it only relies on rich gamblers the casino cannot develop quickly.
There is always a minimum maximum limit in every casino, it's just that the nominal will vary from one casino to another. Regarding tournaments, as I said before, casinos must be able to sort out between small gamblers and rich gamblers because so far every tournament has been held in any form by the casino the winner  always the rich gambler.
Yes, this needs to be done so that crypto casinos have good value in the eyes of society and we as gamblers also feel happy because the money we have spent so far at casinos has been partially used for positive things that benefit the wider community.

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April 08, 2023, 10:11:44 PM
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Holding a competition is quite an interesting idea because every gambler can really try their luck and skill when playing in an ongoing competition.
But the casino must provide at least 2 different competitions where competition is separated from gamblers who have limited funds and gamblers who have more funds because if it is equalized then small gamblers who only play with less limited funds may not be able to survive the competition ongoing.
All types of development that will be carried out by casinos must be considered and processed carefully so that all gamblers, from small gamblers to big gamblers, can all benefit.

Remember that this is not a charity tournament or an official tournament which user need to be in same tier to have a fair fight. This is a casino competition and the goal for this activity is to push players to spend more to get the rewards. Casino is not obligated to reward all the players especially small time players because they are business and this competition is just their of marketing.

You will get a reward based on your contribution and don’t expect to get a huge return when you are just investing small amount.
It's true that this is not a charity tournament and the casino business is built to generate some profits.
However, if as you said that the casino does not have to give justice to all gamblers in order to be able to take part in tournaments then only rich gamblers participate and small gamblers cannot participate in casino tournaments and prefer to move to other casinos that can give them an advantage.
Casinos not only make strides to make gamblers spend more money but also have to be able to keep all gamblers to remain loyal customers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
If a casino is only concerned with the casino's own income then it won't be able to last long and I'm sure many gamblers will stop playing there.

I agree with you, what happens is that casinos have it very easy, the strategy of every casino is that they can make promotions and offer bonuses that players like and are attractive, that is what has worked so far, and if this works why do more? When a casino is new, what it should do is first of all be authentic, and that includes that they are bonuses, Very different promotions and That they may have their way of differentiating themselves from others, it is not something common, but it can be done.

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April 08, 2023, 10:34:35 PM
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Instead of requiring huge amount of wager for reaching certain VIP rank, in addition to those ranks, you can send little incentive according to daily wager. Say, I have wagered $100 today. You will give me $1 bonus (just an example). For a continue streak of 7 days, you can 2x the incentive etc. There are many ways to keep a gambler playing in your casino  Cheesy
I would prefer this one especially for those who aren't capable to met the requirements to have a VIP rank (in this case small time gamblers who doesn't want/can't afford spending too much money in gambling. A gambler like me can't even compete with rich gamblers so maybe an incentive made for those gamblers who aren't rich/can't afford to spend like rich gamblers do. What LM suggested is much of a challenge as what I think about is a challenge made based/according to the gambler's daily wager or gambling activity.

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April 08, 2023, 10:56:57 PM
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Instead of requiring huge amount of wager for reaching certain VIP rank, in addition to those ranks, you can send little incentive according to daily wager. Say, I have wagered $100 today. You will give me $1 bonus (just an example). For a continue streak of 7 days, you can 2x the incentive etc. There are many ways to keep a gambler playing in your casino  Cheesy
I would prefer this one especially for those who aren't capable to met the requirements to have a VIP rank (in this case small time gamblers who doesn't want/can't afford spending too much money in gambling. A gambler like me can't even compete with rich gamblers so maybe an incentive made for those gamblers who aren't rich/can't afford to spend as rich gamblers do. What LM suggested is much of a challenge as what I think about is a challenge made based/according to the gambler's daily wager or gambling activity.
The ultimate question is that why are there rank in casinos when every player I just there to have fun and what is the importance of casino rank apart from the bonuses being given to the VIP members aside from that, are there any other incentive that is given to high-rank members, just as you said let casino use the amount of wagering to determine how much will be paid as bonuses, that way even a new player could even qualify for more bonuses compared to an old player who just wagers a little amount even if he has a high rank on the casino.

I guess with all these suggestions, the punt team should have a lot of options to choose from already, because this thread has been long and run into many pages full of diverse suggestions
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April 08, 2023, 11:40:33 PM
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Therefore casinos must be able to protect all gamblers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
That way the casino can have a large and strong community because if it only relies on rich gamblers the casino cannot develop quickly.
There is always a minimum maximum limit in every casino, it's just that the nominal will vary from one casino to another. Regarding tournaments, as I said before, casinos must be able to sort out between small gamblers and rich gamblers because so far every tournament has been held in any form by the casino the winner  always the rich gambler.
Yes, this needs to be done so that crypto casinos have good value in the eyes of society and we as gamblers also feel happy because the money we have spent so far at casinos has been partially used for positive things that benefit the wider community.

This is exactly what casinos online should do for their players here in the crypto space. Casinos should always be balanced with their players on their platform as well of course.

      It's just that the reality is that most casinos are not balanced, because some of them just want to wait for people to deposit money on their platform and don't care about the concern that their gambling players may face. Which always ends up with a complaint that a casino did not allow their gambler client to withdraw what they won and often the account is suddenly blocked or blocked leaving their balances on the casino platform unopposed.



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April 09, 2023, 08:08:47 AM
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It's true that this is not a charity tournament and the casino business is built to generate some profits.
However, if as you said that the casino does not have to give justice to all gamblers in order to be able to take part in tournaments then only rich gamblers participate and small gamblers cannot participate in casino tournaments and prefer to move to other casinos that can give them an advantage.
Casinos not only make strides to make gamblers spend more money but also have to be able to keep all gamblers to remain loyal customers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
If a casino is only concerned with the casino's own income then it won't be able to last long and I'm sure many gamblers will stop playing there.

I agree with you, what happens is that casinos have it very easy, the strategy of every casino is that they can make promotions and offer bonuses that players like and are attractive, that is what has worked so far, and if this works why do more? When a casino is new, what it should do is first of all be authentic, and that includes that they are bonuses, Very different promotions and That they may have their way of differentiating themselves from others, it is not something common, but it can be done.

This will always be done by the casino so that it can easily get a lot of interest from gamblers and even casinos are willing to spend money to be able to get more players because the more players, the greater the profit the casino will get.
If you say this strategy is like a strategy in business, but not all casinos can implement it.
Yes, because the existence of different promotional bonuses can generate curiosity and interest for gamblers to try new casinos, but all the developments and progress that each casino has have a long journey and hard work which is quite difficult, not even all new casinos can go through what some big casinos have gone through.

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April 09, 2023, 07:05:05 PM
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Therefore casinos must be able to protect all gamblers from small gamblers to rich gamblers.
That way the casino can have a large and strong community because if it only relies on rich gamblers the casino cannot develop quickly.
There is always a minimum maximum limit in every casino, it's just that the nominal will vary from one casino to another. Regarding tournaments, as I said before, casinos must be able to sort out between small gamblers and rich gamblers because so far every tournament has been held in any form by the casino the winner  always the rich gambler.
Yes, this needs to be done so that crypto casinos have good value in the eyes of society and we as gamblers also feel happy because the money we have spent so far at casinos has been partially used for positive things that benefit the wider community.

This is exactly what casinos online should do for their players here in the crypto space. Casinos should always be balanced with their players on their platform as well of course.

      It's just that the reality is that most casinos are not balanced, because some of them just want to wait for people to deposit money on their platform and don't care about the concern that their gambling players may face. Which always ends up with a complaint that a casino did not allow their gambler client to withdraw what they won and often the account is suddenly blocked or blocked leaving their balances on the casino platform unopposed.
That will only happen in scam casinos, although it can also happen to gamblers who play in trusted casinos but are suspected of cheating to win the game. But indeed, when a casino runs a tournament, only gamblers with a lot of money can participate because they can bet various amounts of bets. Whereas small gamblers would not be able to participate or if they did, there must be a limit that they could not cross. And finally, it's still gamblers who have a lot of money who have the opportunity to win. Actually, that's okay because gamblers who are broke can deposit more money to participate or choose not to enter the tournament. After all, the tournament is provided for all its members regardless of whether they are gamblers with a lot of money or gamblers who don't have much money.
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April 09, 2023, 07:20:03 PM
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If the challenges are in any way like Stake.com... then it will not be enjoyable for many people. They post Slot challenges with multipliers that are almost impossible to win. (In most cases, you can only win it with a Max win and also with a high value bet)

The Slot hunts are very predictable... because the same people are winning the same Slot hunts every 24 hours. I think they found a way to work together or to use Alt accounts to milk these challenges.... because it is the same people winning it.  Roll Eyes

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April 09, 2023, 07:38:32 PM
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The ultimate question is that why are there rank in casinos when every player I just there to have fun and what is the importance of casino rank apart from the bonuses being given to the VIP members aside from that, are there any other incentive that is given to high-rank members, just as you said let casino use the amount of wagering to determine how much will be paid as bonuses, that way even a new player could even qualify for more bonuses compared to an old player who just wagers a little amount even if he has a high rank on the casino.
For gamblers who gambled on a casino for fun or whatever purpose why they do it is not that very important in my opinion as I am a gambler myself but it will help a gambler have more funds to gamble which I would say a little bit important especially to small time gamblers like me who doesn't have lots of money or can't afford to spend all of the money a person have. A gambler having something like ranks or whatever the owner of the casino implement in their platform are what casino owners came up with or it could be a suggestion from their gamblers who wager a lot of money to get incentives or special privilege for rich gamblers if the casino doesn't have one yet. However, for casino owners, giving incentives to rich gamblers will make rich gamblers satisfied to what they will get or experience when they spend lots of money on the casino or whatever special privilege they have is because it will make the rich gamblers stay on their casino or to attract more rich gamblers and also another type of incentives that is available to all of their gamblers that includes those who only wager small amount of money. In short, Casino owners/operators will find ways to keep people or make them stay or continue gambling in their casino to have fun if that's the purpose why they gamble and also attract more people.

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April 09, 2023, 08:19:43 PM
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One of the major reasons why I enjoy punt.com is the teammanship. Over the time, I've seen how much you guys love engaging people and your potential customers as well as Bitcointalk members in almost all your decision making especially with reards to the ones that would affect them directly, this is one way to ensure that the services you render are best enjoyed and chosen by majority of people.
I barely participate in gambling competitions but what ever you guys are doing, always try as much as possible to make it worth it,, as well as the reward should also be worth the challenge and always try to stay transparent and fair in your dealings.
Good luck and cheers. Hope to see you at the top.
Just like I also commended the team for the consistent engagement of the community with the development of the casino to build a good user-friendly platform for players here, there is no doubt the fact that Punt has taken feedback from Bitcoin talk seriously which is why we always have threads popping up from the casino with new features and task for members here and if I may suggest some.

Punt should make a catalogue of what there have implemented so far from they various feedback mechanism from this forum to make the users who review them or give such feedback satisfied that the casino truly takes his/her suggestion seriously.
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April 09, 2023, 08:42:43 PM
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Do you enjoy participating in Casino Challenges? What do you like about them, and what could be improved? Are there any specific types of challenges or rewards that you would like to see?


Having challenges against other gamblers is a great idea to make gambling more interactive and interesting. I think everybody enjoys participating in them and as far as I know they are all free to take part in them. It's mostly upside with a limited downside. The only problem I have with the challenges is that they can make us more focused than the actual casino games. If we put our main focus on the challenges and not the casinos games it could become a problem. The main improvement I would like to see with challenges is to focus more on the average gambler and not the big whale gamblers. Having challenges that focus on the number of games and the time spent at the casino would be more fun than the amount of money spent at the casino.
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April 09, 2023, 08:59:30 PM
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This will always be done by the casino so that it can easily get a lot of interest from gamblers and even casinos are willing to spend money to be able to get more players because the more players, the greater the profit the casino will get.
If you say this strategy is like a strategy in business, but not all casinos can implement it.
Yes, because the existence of different promotional bonuses can generate curiosity and interest for gamblers to try new casinos, but all the developments and progress that each casino has have a long journey and hard work which is quite difficult, not even all new casinos can go through what some big casinos have gone through.

   -   You're right mate, there are also casinos that I just noticed that don't even release a lot of money in their business, but it's a very good strategy so they can build a lot of community right away to play gambling in their gambling platform casino.

Or sometimes even if they have paromotion bonuses, they put a due date on it as to when the gamblers will receive the bonus, who must also complete the task requirements for the bonus to be received.
Of course, Casino is still a business. It will be an advantage to them to have a promotion that doesn't cost them much money and also being effective at the same time. I think it is one reason why punt.com is asking the community what are their feedbacks on other casino promotions or challenges, For them to filter out ineffective and un-attractable challenges or promotion so they can avoid it out. We give them our wants so that they can release it to make it available in the public and let us play on our wanted promotion or challenges. This is why I think punt.com is smart in doing their promotion because they are being efficient and don't want to waste money on trying and testing out what kind of promotion will be effective on the gamblers.
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