The cost of living is trying to kill the living

[panganib999]

In the Great Depression of 1929, nobody could afford the cost of things. So, what did people do? They got together and formed their own mini-governments called co-ops. Some of these co-ops are still around today.

What did a co-op do? Everybody in the co-op did what they could to make and supply something that other people needed. If they didn't have a profession, they simply became labor for those who did.

Some people supplied land they owned. Others built buildings on the land. Others tilled the ground. Professional farmers grew all kinds of crops. Everybody worked. They supported themselves.

Is it almost time to form some new co-ops? Co-ops can be made legally stronger these days, because they could be started as Private Membership associations. PMAs have been legally set in place as a sound structure, keeping standard government out.

While this is inspiring at best, I don't think this is the right way. You have the government to rely on when things go south economically. You can't expect the common joe to do contingencies that will slow down inflation so things could be easier for their citizens, it's the job of the government! Not to mention the fact that most of these issues stem from the government's failures anyway, so why should it be that the citizens clean up for the authorities' mess?

I guess this would work well in times of great need but as of now when things could still be staunched, PMAs should be your last option and the government should be the first. Make them do something lmao we elected them or a reason in the first place.

[erep]

Unless you are the owner of the company and does have a vast network of investments, then you can somehow say that you can really survive without worrying about the inflation because you are always producing funds even if you're sleeping.

Even the owner of the company is also stressed about the impact of ongoing inflation because the company's financial management is not optimal and in the end many employees are fired to reduce the company's financial expenses, so his opinion above is very inappropriate because he can survive with the impact of inflation forever and he may earn high from his current job .

The government has an obligation to overcome the impact of inflation that occurs in the economy. Many steps of government work must be implemented to overcome the effects of bad inflation, the government must encourage local products, maintain price stability so that people's purchasing power is still sufficient, the government must be able to control imports so that the prices of local goods remain stable.

[Franctoshi]

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Everybody must learn to cut their cost of living by all means. Learning addition skills and securing extra jobs might be another means of overcoming this hard life. The government must also make policies that will help alleviate the suffering of the masses.

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I don't disagree with everything your said about cooperative. It is one of the potent solutions to the current food and other essential commodities crisis most people are facing due to this global economic problems. But currently, human needs has become very complex and might not be handled by cooperative. Human need more than food and other basic needs to live a comfortable life. And most of these essential commodities are controlled by big companies that are not willing to lose their influence they have on the people. Data and airtime for internet and phone communication might not be basic needs but they are so essential that some people might not be able to survive without them.

Cutting costs will not only solve this problem, When there is price inflation, the price of goods and services increases while your salary remains the same. No matter how you cut costs and depend only on your salary to survive, it is going to be difficult to survive in such an economic environment, but the escape route to this is having multiple streams of income.

Where government needs to play a very important role in such a harsh economy is in subsidizing the transport system, this will help reduce the high cost of living, If there is a high cost of transportation it will automatically affect all sectors of the economy, using my country for example, the recent high cost of PMS which hike the price of transportation has worsened the situation.

[landheer]

I think inflation occurs in many countries,
and indeed sometimes we are always frustrated with the current economic situation which always continues to decline, but of course we have to face it with patience and sincerity.

and I think we also have to learn to buy and only buy the essentials.

but we also have to see people who are unemployed with the aim that we can be grateful for what we get.

sometimes I always think that even people who have a small salary are tired of inflation, especially people who don't have a job (unemployment).

[Patrol69]

Day by day increase in prices of goods is making people's lives miserable. The goods which were earlier within the purchasing power of the people are now beyond the purchasing power of the people. A father from a middle class family knows how to manage his family. Apart from managing their own family, children's education expenses, parents' medicine expenses, a middle class family has to live a very difficult life. Cost of goods may not be a big issue for those who have very good monthly income but for a middle class government employee or officer it is a lot of concern. Once the price of a commodity increases, the price of the commodity never returns to its previous level. Everything was fine if the salary of every employee or official increased with the increase in the price of goods then there would be no impact on anyone in running a family.

[tygeade]

Every day, prices go up, but our salaries as civil servants stay the same. It's a struggle to cover basic needs like food, water, rent, and electricity. I can't imagine how tough it must be for families with lots of kids.

This is indeed unimaginable because there are already many people who have experienced difficulties from this, so that the current civil servants are still looking for other jobs as support in their lives. And I think that is a very appropriate thing for civil servants to do in order to support their lives by earning income from work other than what they get through salary as civil servants, which in general is no longer sufficient.

I think that's the question to be asked, do we not deserve a life like that? I mean should we be always worried about having trouble and barely making ends meet as a decent worker?

You shouldn't need to be a surgeon who saves lives, or a business owner that risked capital, you could be an accountant, a teacher, a sewer worker, a mechanic, bookstore clerk, or whatever you can think of, and you should be able to make a living enough to not worry about rent and food and bills, those three things are set every month, we will pay them every month and even that's hard, and I am not talking about actually living, like going out with friends, drinking a bit, just once a week maybe, or having a good time on a vacation of something, those are very important things and dream for most people.

[Uruhara]

I think inflation occurs in many countries,
and indeed sometimes we are always frustrated with the current economic situation which always continues to decline, but of course we have to face it with patience and sincerity.

and I think we also have to learn to buy and only buy the essentials.

but we also have to see people who are unemployed with the aim that we can be grateful for what we get.

sometimes I always think that even people who have a small salary are tired of inflation, especially people who don't have a job (unemployment).

yeah right. at least those of us who still have income are still quite lucky because we can still fulfill every need we need. And sometimes looking down is necessary to make us more grateful for our personal circumstances.

Inflation has now decreased in several countries but the current recession is increasingly haunting every country. In fact, dozens of countries in Europe have almost entered a recession. while in Asia the economy can still be said to be quite good. so that here the economic difficulties have actually faded.

[ancafe]

Day by day increase in prices of goods is making people's lives miserable. The goods which were earlier within the purchasing power of the people are now beyond the purchasing power of the people. A father from a middle class family knows how to manage his family. Apart from managing their own family, children's education expenses, parents' medicine expenses, a middle class family has to live a very difficult life. Cost of goods may not be a big issue for those who have very good monthly income but for a middle class government employee or officer it is a lot of concern.

Even for some middle class people are also experiencing difficulties at this time, apart from not developing the businesses they run are also affected by the economic crisis. So that people's needs are no longer balanced in spending money and as a result many businesses have gone bankrupt because there are no customers who buy and in the end finally the business was forced to close because it was unable to survive in conditions like now.

All businesses are experiencing bankruptcy and it is increasingly difficult for people to get out of the economic crisis that is happening, while the need for education, health and other costs needs to be prepared amidst the inability of people to spend money to cover the costs of daily needs.

Once the price of a commodity increases, the price of the commodity never returns to its previous level. Everything was fine if the salary of every employee or official increased with the increase in the price of goods then there would be no impact on anyone in running a family.

The increasingly difficult life that is happening in almost all countries, inflation, recession and economic crisis have become a serious threat to the survival of most people. Basic needs rose uncontrollably and the situation got worse and jobs were no longer available for some people, while the rising needs never went back down, resulting in an imbalance of income and expenditure for the entire population today.

[flyingcarpet]

the same condition actually happened in my country. and probably also occurs in the majority of all countries today. because inflation is currently happening globally. even Bank interest rates continue to be raised which means the inflation rate is still high.

But in a situation like now we can't just expect action from the government. we have to have our own solution. start from frugal living. cut unnecessary costs. etc.

we know this feels not easy. but we are forced to get used to and adapt to the situation and conditions that are happening. And as long as we still have jobs and income, we are still lucky. will be more worrying for those who do not have a job. because they must be living a life that is not easy nowadays. even in some countries the crime rate also seems to have increased. as a result of increasingly uncertain economic pressures.

In many parts of the world, the cost of living has risen and continues to rise. Working people are slightly better off than non-working people. Families with children are more affected. In such situations, additional sources of income are of great importance. Of course, it is not easy to find and earn this additional income, but the world is now telling us that we must do it. As economic difficulties continue, the quality of life decreases. We must constantly improve ourselves to prevent this.

Banks raising interest rates and people not being able to repay their loans easily is also a big problem. Many people cannot get loans because of high interest rates. I don't know when this bad situation will end, but many banks are taking advantage of high inflation and are opportunistic.

[Marvell1]

the same condition actually happened in my country. and probably also occurs in the majority of all countries today. because inflation is currently happening globally. even Bank interest rates continue to be raised which means the inflation rate is still high.

But in a situation like now we can't just expect action from the government. we have to have our own solution. start from frugal living. cut unnecessary costs. etc.

we know this feels not easy. but we are forced to get used to and adapt to the situation and conditions that are happening. And as long as we still have jobs and income, we are still lucky. will be more worrying for those who do not have a job. because they must be living a life that is not easy nowadays. even in some countries the crime rate also seems to have increased. as a result of increasingly uncertain economic pressures.

In many parts of the world, the cost of living has risen and continues to rise. Working people are slightly better off than non-working people. Families with children are more affected. In such situations, additional sources of income are of great importance. Of course, it is not easy to find and earn this additional income, but the world is now telling us that we must do it. As economic difficulties continue, the quality of life decreases. We must constantly improve ourselves to prevent this.

Banks raising interest rates and people not being able to repay their loans easily is also a big problem. Many people cannot get loans because of high interest rates. I don't know when this bad situation will end, but many banks are taking advantage of high inflation and are opportunistic.

Even if this inflation, crisis passes, it will return soon in the future, and our lives will become more and more difficult if we are not prepared for it. We should not depend on the government or anyone, but save ourselves by accepting the realities and finding ways to adapt to them if we do not want to be eliminated.
And the only solution to this is to generate extra income in every possible way, instead of lamenting, I will work harder and accumulate more assets with potential for future growth instead of just saving and holding too much fiat.

[YOSHIE]

An this has created a torn in the lives of many as situations keeps on getting worse by the day.
Am wondering if it's same experience in other part of the world.

If the government or the state has cooperated with the mafia, that's what happens, the economy for the common people is always covered with inadequacy, even though you work in the government, still your income does not cover your living needs, not to mention you tie up with bank credit and so on.

Life in Europe and the Middle East is different from an economic point of view, Asia is bad for that, because many goods and daily necessities have been controlled by the mafia, they can raise prices at will, without caring about people's income plus the corrupt government is really messy from an economic point of view.

If the government is unable to eradicate the trade mafia, there is no story that the country's economy is improving, what's more, the government is not thinking about managing natural resources, that's even worse, the government only knows taxes, on certain products, it will happen that the rich get richer and the people get more miserable. Countries that rely on income from taxes, these countries have the worst economy and miserable people, without being able to manage natural resources in their own country, only relying on preparations from other countries.

[uneng]

In the Great Depression of 1929, nobody could afford the cost of things. So, what did people do? They got together and formed their own mini-governments called co-ops. Some of these co-ops are still around today.

What did a co-op do? Everybody in the co-op did what they could to make and supply something that other people needed. If they didn't have a profession, they simply became labor for those who did.

Some people supplied land they owned. Others built buildings on the land. Others tilled the ground. Professional farmers grew all kinds of crops. Everybody worked. They supported themselves.

Is it almost time to form some new co-ops? Co-ops can be made legally stronger these days, because they could be started as Private Membership associations. PMAs have been legally set in place as a sound structure, keeping standard government out.

While this is inspiring at best, I don't think this is the right way. You have the government to rely on when things go south economically. You can't expect the common joe to do contingencies that will slow down inflation so things could be easier for their citizens, it's the job of the government! Not to mention the fact that most of these issues stem from the government's failures anyway, so why should it be that the citizens clean up for the authorities' mess?

I guess this would work well in times of great need but as of now when things could still be staunched, PMAs should be your last option and the government should be the first. Make them do something lmao we elected them or a reason in the first place.

Do you really expect the one who made the mess to fix it? How can the government, which is the problem, to be the solution? On the example above of 'co-ops' we can see that citizens had to take action by themselves because the government failed doing so. And if they just waited for a solution from the government they would have probably starved to death or wouldn't be the strong nation they are today... While weak nations rely on foreigners and authorities to solve their problems and supply their needs, strong nations have independent citizens who organize minor associations among themselves to minimize or solve issues their governments aren't handling efficiently.

[Synchronice]

But doesnt mean that you shouldnt pursue on getting a degree, it would really be still that sensible on getting one because having a degree or certificate or whatsover that it is really that correlated to this would really be that necessary or something that would really be that needed for you to at least having the chance or potential on getting some work or job and also when it comes to awareness of things or learnings then you would really be having that kind of advantage which is something that you would really be having compared to those who didnt touch up a school or having the education.
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I don't say that people shouldn't study, if you are a person who wants to become a doctor because your are passionate about that, then you should definitely become a doctor but if you find it hard to become top in uni in your niche and you are bad at communication, networking, etc and you only study with the hope that you'll get a high-paying job with your degree, then you'll fail.
It's very true that most electricians and plumbers earn much more than most people with bachelor and masters degree. So many people with degrees aren't necessary today, we need skilled people in trades job.

[Lorence.xD]

But doesnt mean that you shouldnt pursue on getting a degree, it would really be still that sensible on getting one because having a degree or certificate or whatsover that it is really that correlated to this would really be that necessary or something that would really be that needed for you to at least having the chance or potential on getting some work or job and also when it comes to awareness of things or learnings then you would really be having that kind of advantage which is something that you would really be having compared to those who didnt touch up a school or having the education.
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I don't say that people shouldn't study, if you are a person who wants to become a doctor because your are passionate about that, then you should definitely become a doctor but if you find it hard to become top in uni in your niche and you are bad at communication, networking, etc and you only study with the hope that you'll get a high-paying job with your degree, then you'll fail.
It's very true that most electricians and plumbers earn much more than most people with bachelor and masters degree. So many people with degrees aren't necessary today, we need skilled people in trades job.

This is actually the reality, if you're still studying and have a mindset that if you have a degree you would get a high paying job which is ain't true. If you lack the communication skills and having connections then for sure you would be stuck at being unemployed. Just imagine this you're not only the one that are good and talented that attained degree, so you need to build up your social ability to survive the working industry.

Knowledge itself won't do good if you don't have the strategy and hard work to pursue those dreams. I still believe skills is better than knowledge because they are most likely to survive in this industry.

[BitcoinTurk]

I think it is not "that" different in most of other nations as well, not really that different in my country too. The logic is that if you are making a salary, then you shouldn't be able to live a great life, it just doesn't or will probably never happen. I think it is quite important to just focus on what you could do with it, and learn how you could get out.

There is a reason why there are so many authors from so many different nations that keep on writing books about how you could make more money if you got out of the 9-5 lifestyle. Sure maybe yours is worse than others, but doesn't make other nations a great place to live with a salary neither, believe me because I know millions even tens of millions having debt and barely surviving in my nation as well.

Since we do not compare the two countries here of course I cannot say that your comment is wrong but at least as far as I know, if Turkey and many other countries are to be compared unfortunately it would not be right to say that it is in the same situation with other countries because it is more difficult for the people of Turkey to live due to the economy getting worse day by day. Of course, regardless of the country anyone working with a salary cannot live a very good or high quality life today because salaries have become incredibly low in today's conditions.

[Flexystar]

Unless you are the owner of the company and does have a vast network of investments, then you can somehow say that you can really survive without worrying about the inflation because you are always producing funds even if you're sleeping.

Even the owner of the company is also stressed about the impact of ongoing inflation because the company's financial management is not optimal and in the end many employees are fired to reduce the company's financial expenses, so his opinion above is very inappropriate because he can survive with the impact of inflation forever and he may earn high from his current job .

The government has an obligation to overcome the impact of inflation that occurs in the economy. Many steps of government work must be implemented to overcome the effects of bad inflation, the government must encourage local products, maintain price stability so that people's purchasing power is still sufficient, the government must be able to control imports so that the prices of local goods remain stable.

This is true as well. Many think that company owners, business or entrepreneurs can live very happy life even in the time like this. However it is them who are first hit very hard and that’s why the effect is percolated down the sink and then reaches to the common man. In this case it reaches to the employees of that company. However you or me cant blame the owner because for the long term business survival they will always have to look after their company revenue generation system and do the accounting. This is ti safe kering their company or business and not for themselves. What would all the employees do if company got shut right away? It’s better to have few losses as compared to entire colony getting abandoned with the inflation. Might be hard to digest but truth always hurts. Just save money and try to have more income sources. That’s how we survive.

[molsewid]

This is actually the reality, if you're still studying and have a mindset that if you have a degree you would get a high paying job which is ain't true. If you lack the communication skills and having connections then for sure you would be stuck at being unemployed. Just imagine this you're not only the one that are good and talented that attained degree, so you need to build up your social ability to survive the working industry.

Knowledge itself won't do good if you don't have the strategy and hard work to pursue those dreams. I still believe skills is better than knowledge because they are most likely to survive in this industry.

I agree 100%, in my case I already have a degree and good experience in my jobs before but still without adding additional job for me to live will not keep me financially stable, in this world hardwork is a must no matter what degree you have still you need to endure this hardship of inflation and economic crisis especially if you are living in a 3rd world country like us, having one job is not enough in here.

[Jatiluhung]

I think inflation occurs in many countries,
and indeed sometimes we are always frustrated with the current economic situation which always continues to decline, but of course we have to face it with patience and sincerity.

and I think we also have to learn to buy and only buy the essentials.

but we also have to see people who are unemployed with the aim that we can be grateful for what we get.

sometimes I always think that even people who have a small salary are tired of inflation, especially people who don't have a job (unemployment).

yeah right. at least those of us who still have income are still quite lucky because we can still fulfill every need we need. And sometimes looking down is necessary to make us more grateful for our personal circumstances.

Inflation has now decreased in several countries but the current recession is increasingly haunting every country. In fact, dozens of countries in Europe have almost entered a recession. while in Asia the economy can still be said to be quite good. so that here the economic difficulties have actually faded.

Recession is indeed a problem that has been predicted even since last year. Because this can also happen due to the impact of the central bank which massively raises interest rates to reduce the inflation rate. It's just that in some Asian countries the recession may not occur. It's just that the number of unemployed in several Asian countries is still known to be quite high. But because the cost of living in Asia is much cheaper. So that is what makes the economy there become much more controllable. and from Asia we also see a lot of agricultural sectors that are quite advanced and lots of open land that still requires human hands to manage. So even unemployed people can still survive in several Asian countries if they are diligent and skilled in agriculture.

besides that we really have to be people who are always grateful for what we have now. But we also have to have motivation to keep improving the business or work we have. Because if inflation then becomes high again then at least we already have preparations with a higher amount of income. And don't forget to get used to living frugally and investing more for the future.

[romero121]

I think it is not "that" different in most of other nations as well, not really that different in my country too. The logic is that if you are making a salary, then you shouldn't be able to live a great life, it just doesn't or will probably never happen. I think it is quite important to just focus on what you could do with it, and learn how you could get out.

There is a reason why there are so many authors from so many different nations that keep on writing books about how you could make more money if you got out of the 9-5 lifestyle. Sure maybe yours is worse than others, but doesn't make other nations a great place to live with a salary neither, believe me because I know millions even tens of millions having debt and barely surviving in my nation as well.

Since we do not compare the two countries here of course I cannot say that your comment is wrong but at least as far as I know, if Turkey and many other countries are to be compared unfortunately it would not be right to say that it is in the same situation with other countries because it is more difficult for the people of Turkey to live due to the economy getting worse day by day. Of course, regardless of the country anyone working with a salary cannot live a very good or high quality life today because salaries have become incredibly low in today's conditions.

It isn't the same situation all around. Everywhere people were affected much out of the inflation and other problems that arise out of inflation. Based on the percentage of impact the changes can be experienced on people's living. In my understanding the impact of inflation and other economic issues have hit the urban population higher than the rural population. Because the urban population is much dependent for food and everything and the salary too comes out of corporate. With rural population they're mostly self reliant and this doesn't have much impact over the living style.

[Davidvictorson]

The cost of living shouldn't kill the living please. The living should find a way to rise above the cost of living. The living should grow their own vegetables and rear theor own animals if need be. The living should find a smart way to reduce their cost. With reality now, the living shouldn't be competing for the latest car, clothes, electronic gadget. The living shouldn't take out a loan at this time. Bitcoin freedom for the living.