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March 07, 2023, 08:40:01 AM
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Currently Bitcointalk provide total number of views of each thread in any section. This feature is available without any extension and no need of any other third party help. I am thinking of total number of view of each reply. Is it possible to see how many times our reply has been seen by unique users?
it will look like this.

Below is imaginary look of post and total number of views counter has been added. First one is sample view counter


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If we want to see Users list who seen our post then it will look like below but i think it is against decentralization
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I checked all extension and websites provided by users but this feature not available anywhere. Now my question is; Is it possible to check view through any extension or Only Theymos can add this view feature in Bitcointalk?

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March 07, 2023, 08:47:50 AM
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I think it not's possible to implement that at all.
I don't think there is any way for the forum to know whether the user who visited the thread scrolled down to read your reply or not. It's only possible to know how many users visited the thread.

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March 07, 2023, 08:50:28 AM
Last edit: March 07, 2023, 09:00:50 AM by Cantsay
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You can do that with ninjastic.space

Just input the author name and the topic I'd and it will show you how many post that user has made in that topic.
For example let's take JayJuanGee's posts in WO.




The only downside with using ninjastic.space is that it shows you both deleted and existing post since what it shows is the Archived version.

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March 07, 2023, 08:53:37 AM
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So you mean something like Twitter has, where you can see view count of each reply? I am not sure that something like that is possible on bitcointalk, and even if it was there are more urgent things to sort than that.


You can do that with ninjastic.space

Just input the author name and the topic I'd and it will show you how many post that user has made in that topic
You misunderstood OP, he wants to see how many views each post had and not how many posts someone made in specific topic.

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March 07, 2023, 09:04:51 AM
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You can do that with ninjastic.space

Just input the author name and the topic I'd and it will show you how many post that user has made in that topic
You misunderstood OP, he wants to see how many views each post had and not how many posts someone made in specific topic.
The title "view counter of each reply" probably the only thing he/she read and misunderstood the OP.

There's no way to detect if someone read the reply by just scrolling, i dont know if some js library built for that purpose especially for a forum/web page structure like this. Unlike other social media sites such twitter and facebook.
Although you can assume only, a user read the reply when its reply is replied by someone.

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March 07, 2023, 09:06:34 AM
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It is not a typical "story" feature found on social media platforms such as Facebook or Instagram.

Plus, I don't think that such a feature is privacy-wise. I mean it has the potential to compromise the privacy of forum members, particularly if they do not wish to be visible to other members, especially in situations where there are conflicts between individuals.
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March 07, 2023, 09:10:57 AM
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You can do that with ninjastic.space

Just input the author name and the topic I'd and it will show you how many post that user has made in that topic
You misunderstood OP, he wants to see how many views each post had and not how many posts someone made in specific topic.
The title "view counter of each reply" probably the only thing he/she read and misunderstood the OP.

Oh I see, I totally misunderstood the content of Op.

I thought what Op meant was how he could get the total number of replies each users made in a certain thread.

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March 07, 2023, 09:11:31 AM
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Does it's only me who think there's no benefit if this feature will be implemented in this forum? Let's say oh yeah theymos have view my post, then what? do you will force him to reply your post by contact him through private message? your message will get reported due to spam.

It's also kill the purpose of ignore too since some people might aware why there's an user create post in the thread, but you didn't see his name on your viewed post.

 
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March 07, 2023, 09:45:50 AM
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How is 1 point added? 1 page contains 20 lines of posts and do you mean every person who viewed 1 post also adds 19 posts on that page 1 point each? And what about when displaying posts via profile history?

Suppose the number of views is considered a new parameter for knowing how interested people are in a post, spammers will think their posts are constructive.

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What is the benefit of knowing who viewed your topic, you do not find a feature such as private Instagram accounts or Twitter circle feature, meaning creating private posts/topics for a certain number of people, all posts are public and everyone can view them even if you do not have an account, and therefore if this feature is activated, all What I have to do to view the thread without being detected is to click on "Open this page in privacy mode".
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Hey OP, I've seen your post! Now let's not publish anything I've seen for anyone to see!

Apart from this thing called privacy: opening a page shows me 20 posts. That doesn't mean I read or even see all of them.

Does it's only me who think there's no benefit if this feature will be implemented in this forum? Let's say oh yeah theymos have view my post, then what?
That's going to be a whole new level of drama! Followed by drama triggered by the users who read the drama!

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Having a plugin of some sort that will show the reach of each post could be a good feature that campaign managers would use as a factor of influence of some sort for each user but not guaranteed to yield the required results of course. But looking at the 3rd photo in the OP of having to have a drop-down menu to show names of users that have actually seen or interacted with this post is a no-no for me as this could easily turn into a stalker's hunt and stepping on forum user's privacy.

The idea is good not sure what the majority think of this...

 
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I rightly understand what you meant. But soke persons in this thread is finding it difficult to understand what you meant. With the image above, you are proposing that in place of the views the username of the viewers be shown in the arrow drop down.
Well, my number one concern is about what LoyceV said about privacy. I wouldn't want it to appear that I am following up the posts of one particular user. At times I view posts and would not want to reply to it, so let my username not also show.

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How would you measure a view to a reply within a thread? The replies are all loaded at once, and as far as I know you wouldn't be able to differentiate between loading the page, and scrolling over a post. You could potentially get individual post counts for each page, but I don't see the benefit to that. At least, not with the current forum software, and the languages it uses. Possibly to add something like this with Javascript or React. However, it would drastically change how forum pages are loaded. It's a pretty huge undertaking, and affects things like ignored users too.

Also, as for the suggestion of showing who's viewed your posts; some users probably prefer to have privacy of what they're viewing, and therefore not made public. Obviously, the forum likely logs what you're viewing, but for that information to be public? I imagine it'd cause more drama than being useful, especially when concerning scam accusations, and what not.

It's a pretty insubstantial thing to add which probably wouldn't have too many uses, and those that did use it probably wouldn't use it beyond it being a gimmick, and would likely forget it even exists after the initial novelty factor has worn off. Also, displaying a ton of users would likely limit the usefulness of it anyhow, since thousands of users could be viewing your thread.

You misunderstood OP, he wants to see how many views each post had and not how many posts someone made in specific topic.
Which, would take a whole lot of work to get that to display. How, would you even determine what counts as a view. Someone, opening a thread, and then exiting isn't exactly viewing all the posts to a thread.

How is 1 point added? 1 page contains 20 lines of posts and do you mean every person who viewed 1 post also adds 19 posts on that page 1 point each? And what about when displaying posts via profile history?

Suppose the number of views is considered a new parameter for knowing how interested people are in a post, spammers will think their posts are constructive.
Right, however even if you determined scrolling down, and the post being read by the user; programming that would be difficult, I'm not even sure there's much you can do for it unless you want to heavily impact the performance of the forum. Usually, the forums pages are loaded, and then that's it. There's no dynamic element to it, whereas this would require a dynamic page in order to look out for certain actions that would count as a view.

Having a plugin of some sort that will show the reach of each post could be a good feature that campaign managers would use as a factor of influence of some sort for each user but not guaranteed to yield the required results of course. But looking at the 3rd photo in the OP of having to have a drop-down menu to show names of users that have actually seen or interacted with this post is a no-no for me as this could easily turn into a stalker's hunt and stepping on forum user's privacy.
They can do that several other ways; including a referral link in the signatures or simply looking at thread views, and taking something like 10% of that figure for an estimate. However, ultimately what matters to them is that sales are going up, since they've been advertising. However, signatures definitely work; I've gotten many personal messages asking for more information about what's in my signature.

The same problem exists though, without drastically changing how the forum functions; this wouldn't be possible, since at the moment every page is loaded at the same time, and therefore every reply is loaded at the same time. You don't need to actually read/view a reply for it to count in the current implementation.

I think it not's possible to implement that at all.
I don't think there is any way for the forum to know whether the user who visited the thread scrolled down to read your reply or not. It's only possible to know how many users visited the thread.
Possible with Javascript, but not with php as far as I know. I think it goes without saying why we don't want to see Javascript being added to the forum just for the sake of a cosmetic feature. Most users here likely have Javascript disabled, which would technically render this feature useless anyhow.
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What the OP wants is to have a record of users who have entered a thread.

But I can inform you that this is impossible to do without resorting to configurations in the database, something very unlikely to happen.

For this type of registration to be done, the BD needs to register whenever a user enters the topic. This type of log would further fill the database with content that is irrelevant to using the forum.

In addition, this could jeopardize the privacy of users, since many could not enter some topics in order not to be registered. It is already possible to obtain so much information about the behavior of users on the forum, that I think this is irrelevant.

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For this type of registration to be done, the BD needs to register whenever a user enters the topic. This type of log would further fill the database with content that is irrelevant to using the forum.
This is likely already done too some extent. A lot of forum software tends to log what users have looked at. Whether or not theymos has that enabled still or if it was disabled when the other statistics were disabled, I'm not 100% sure, but they likely do get wiped periodically due to the storage issues that could arise, since for the most part it would be useless information.

It speaks about page, and thread views in the privacy page. They're only kept for a few weeks though, obviously to prevent unnecessary storage usage. Plus, there usefulness is likely diminished past a few weeks anyhow. Thread views are kept for Log of all viewed topics as far as I know means viewing threads though, so that could stay on the database until deleted.

So, yeah this information is already captured, but isn't publicly released. Do note though, determining whether a individual post within a thread/page has been viewed isn't possible with the languages that SMF uses, unless significant changes were made.
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March 07, 2023, 04:03:26 PM
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I also think that it's not possible or even if there is some sort of changing the backend how would the system effectively distinguish that whether a particular user has read a certain post or just opened the page? You see when you enter a thread then it can be checked that how many unique users have checked into that list but suppose you opened the second page of that thread and read two or three posts and not the rest 17 so how will system check that you have read those posts not the others which is main part of this.So this is not possible in my opinion.

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March 07, 2023, 07:25:02 PM
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The system calculates number of views of a thread by clicks on the topic I guess, the system can detect comment views by number of people that scrolled pass the comments. I assume is what social media like twitter does to calculate number of views on comments. Though I have not seen any forum script that enables such features and it's not necessary except advertisers on the forum wish to see such algorithm and stats, but I don't see any need for that since they can calculate number of link clicks to their website. Besides, forum users are not seeking for followers, so such feature may not matter.

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March 07, 2023, 07:29:49 PM
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For this type of registration to be done, the BD needs to register whenever a user enters the topic. This type of log would further fill the database with content that is irrelevant to using the forum.
This is likely already done too some extent. A lot of forum software tends to log what users have looked at. Whether or not theymos has that enabled still or if it was disabled when the other statistics were disabled, I'm not 100% sure, but they likely do get wiped periodically due to the storage issues that could arise, since for the most part it would be useless information.

I have serious doubts that any forum does this type of registration.
This is because he needed to register all users who visit the topic in the BD. For example, this topic alone already has more than 100 views, that means that he had to register all those 100 views. This would greatly increase the BD as literally unnecessary information.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it's highly impossible for some forum to register this information. Because it would weigh too much on the database unnecessarily.

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March 07, 2023, 09:27:43 PM
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I have serious doubts that any forum does this type of registration.
This is because he needed to register all users who visit the topic in the BD. For example, this topic alone already has more than 100 views, that means that he had to register all those 100 views. This would greatly increase the BD as literally unnecessary information.
I know for a fact that some forums do store this information, since I've dabbled in forum software before. However, I can't remember the default implementation of Simple Machines software. Although, that doesn't matter, as I pointed out the privacy page suggests that this sort of information is stored, albeit not for very long. While it's not specific, I suspect the two entries:
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Page-by-page access logs and most other detailed logging

Suggests this information is stored, but not what the OP was requesting, i.e a view counter for each post made in a thread.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it's highly impossible for some forum to register this information. Because it would weigh too much on the database unnecessarily.
That's why it's removed periodically from the database, likely pruned automatically for the most part.
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