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March 11, 2023, 08:30:11 AM
 #81

Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.
If you get redirected to their login page that means you're required to log in first before seeing the all of the details about the promo. There are some casinos that do this on purpose and sometimes would only offer promos for specific countries. When it comes to the terms and conditions they are usually mentioned all in one place or below the promo page.

Most of those banners I've seen were for those who are new users, meaning they will need to sign up to get those promotions because for existing users, they mostly have a page alone with the promotions or can easily get redirected to it like raffles or new games. The problem with these promotions is that you need to achieve specific goals, like betting a certain amount to get qualified, which means sometimes you need to spend more money.
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March 11, 2023, 08:40:25 AM
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I think it's our job to check out the terms and conditions.
All they did was redirect you to their website and some of it is injected with referral links so that when you bet, they will have a percentage of it.

Most gambling sites today don't really need you to sign up first. You can check out their website and freely roam around although there are some restricted parts because you are still a guest. Regarding bonuses, they have Telegram or Discord pages now so you can just ask them directly if they are offering whatever bonus you prefer. i.e. Deposit bonus.

    -    You are right in what you said, and I can only add, the decision whether or not to join a casino is always up to us, we are under no obligation to immediately create an account on their platform.

That's why others always say here in the forum that we should learn to research a crypto gambling before we start playing gambling here so that we won't blame anyone else for what we decide.

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March 11, 2023, 06:05:18 PM
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I think it's our job to check out the terms and conditions.
All they did was redirect you to their website and some of it is injected with referral links so that when you bet, they will have a percentage of it.

Most gambling sites today don't really need you to sign up first. You can check out their website and freely roam around although there are some restricted parts because you are still a guest. Regarding bonuses, they have Telegram or Discord pages now so you can just ask them directly if they are offering whatever bonus you prefer. i.e. Deposit bonus.

    -    You are right in what you said, and I can only add, the decision whether or not to join a casino is always up to us, we are under no obligation to immediately create an account on their platform.

That's why others always say here in the forum that we should learn to research a crypto gambling before we start playing gambling here so that we won't blame anyone else for what we decide.
Researching each new casino can give us to know more about the casino before we decide. But most gamblers don't do it but will register immediately because they don't want to miss the promos given by the casino. In addition, they feel that reading the terms and conditions can be done later once they have an account at the casino.

We are always obliged to read the casino's terms and conditions to avoid violating them. And if we are not comfortable with the terms and conditions, we can look for another casino because we have a large list of new casinos waiting to be researched.

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March 11, 2023, 06:54:10 PM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.
If you get redirected to their login page that means you're required to log in first before seeing the all of the details about the promo. There are some casinos that do this on purpose and sometimes would only offer promos for specific countries. When it comes to the terms and conditions they are usually mentioned all in one place or below the promo page.

Most of those banners I've seen were for those who are new users, meaning they will need to sign up to get those promotions because for existing users, they mostly have a page alone with the promotions or can easily get redirected to it like raffles or new games. The problem with these promotions is that you need to achieve specific goals, like betting a certain amount to get qualified, which means sometimes you need to spend more money.

Well, crypto adverts like banners are aimed at new players, while promo notification is for existing players.  There is nothing we can do about this kind of method @OP because as an advertiser, it is logical to redirect a potential player to the registration page than to the terms and agreements.  About the promotion, obviously, to avail of any promo from a gambling platform, they must be a member of that platform since they have to used the promos and bonuses on that same platform.
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March 11, 2023, 06:54:58 PM
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I think it's our job to check out the terms and conditions.
All they did was redirect you to their website and some of it is injected with referral links so that when you bet, they will have a percentage of it.

Most gambling sites today don't really need you to sign up first. You can check out their website and freely roam around although there are some restricted parts because you are still a guest. Regarding bonuses, they have Telegram or Discord pages now so you can just ask them directly if they are offering whatever bonus you prefer. i.e. Deposit bonus.
   -    You are right in what you said, and I can only add, the decision whether or not to join a casino is always up to us, we are under no obligation to immediately create an account on their platform.

That's why others always say here in the forum that we should learn to research a crypto gambling before we start playing gambling here so that we won't blame anyone else for what we decide.
Someone can just immediately create an account right after seeing those enticing offers but if it's me I will have a doubt on it. Like they say that when something is too good to be true, chances are that it was not really true or there are hidden terms/conditions about it. This makes me not to sign up on them because I will just waste my time there or possibly money.

There are lots of good gambling sites lying around the first page of the gambling board but if you can't find any that catches your attention, that would be the time to do your own research. It can be outside this forum but it was your own responsibility now whatever happened to you or to your funds.

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March 11, 2023, 07:03:07 PM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

The truth is that most of the casino and promos target the new users as they want more people come to their site and deposit / wager. Due to this reason when you click on these banner, they will take you direct to the registration page. Also most of the casino give you deposit bonus and most of the time this bonus is on the first deposit, again favoring the new user.

Don't you why they don't give these offers to new users because it is equally important to retain the old users as compare to gaining new customers  Huh

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March 11, 2023, 07:13:47 PM
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Interests are like that for which we think that we're the target customers but not really. I think that for pages that are about the promos, they've got the t&c's that are posted below the promo and that's why I don't see it as a problem.
But if it's an interest that they should really fix, for their new and old customers, it's not that much work for them to have it work properly because it's like an easy thing to be made.

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March 11, 2023, 08:58:38 PM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

Do your part, mate. It's not that things will always be spoonfed to make people satisfied.

It's been ages already that any promotions or bonuses do always associated with a Terms and Conditions. That's usual to expect.

Can you share some examples of promo banners that literally just redirect to the sign-up page? I said, promo banner exactly and not a marketing banner.
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March 11, 2023, 09:06:24 PM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

Do your part, mate. It's not that things will always be spoonfed to make people satisfied.

It's been ages already that any promotions or bonuses do always associated with a Terms and Conditions. That's usual to expect.

Can you share some examples of promo banners that literally just redirect to the sign-up page? I said, promo banner exactly and not a marketing banner.

the reason why some new players of the casino are getting rekt as they are getting tempted with the mouth-watering bonuses or rewards. some of them for sure forgot to check the terms attached to it. and they will complain afterwards, not knowing they haven't completed the required wagering requirements.
i have seen several times in this forum, a player accusing the site of being a scam as he can't withdraw his winnings. but afterwards, it is the player himself that had shortcomings. either he didn't comply with the conditions or violated some entries on the site's ToS.

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March 11, 2023, 09:22:34 PM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

In most cases I encountered though, there should be a link leading to the "Terms and Conditions" , "Bonuses Conditions" or something like that on the registration page. I have rarely seen a promotional banner that will redirect you to the Terms and Condition page exactly as the purpose is to lead users to the registration page.

It should also be a good habit to always read the terms regarding any kind of bonus. There's no promotional bonus that doesn't have terms.

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March 11, 2023, 10:15:16 PM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

In most cases I encountered though, there should be a link leading to the "Terms and Conditions" , "Bonuses Conditions" or something like that on the registration page. I have rarely seen a promotional banner that will redirect you to the Terms and Condition page exactly as the purpose is to lead users to the registration page.

It should also be a good habit to always read the terms regarding any kind of bonus. There's no promotional bonus that doesn't have terms.
I dont see it for it to be that applied considering that it is really that understandable that these bonuses does have particular terms and conditions.If the site or platform would be giving out some links or alerts about
those bonuses terms and conditions then it would be great but just like you do said that they would be just directly be showing off directly on registration page on which it is really that common.
As a player or a gambler then we arent that dumb not to know or believing that they wont really be falling out on some terms which it is really a bad mindset because you would definitely be
making yourself that expect on something it wasnt right at the first place.

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March 12, 2023, 02:34:07 AM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

In most cases I encountered though, there should be a link leading to the "Terms and Conditions" , "Bonuses Conditions" or something like that on the registration page. I have rarely seen a promotional banner that will redirect you to the Terms and Condition page exactly as the purpose is to lead users to the registration page.

It should also be a good habit to always read the terms regarding any kind of bonus. There's no promotional bonus that doesn't have terms.
In a way I understand what the OP is trying to say, as it can be discouraging to find a promo and then you have to look for the terms for a few minutes only to find out you do not qualify or the promo has already expired, but that is just the way casinos promote themselves, if they land you on the registration page after you click the link then it is clear that what they are trying to do is to attract new customers to their casino with those offers and as such they will never modify their landing page, as this will decrease the amount of new gamblers which decide to give a try to their casino
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March 12, 2023, 05:24:50 AM
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I also didn't understand what the OP's purpose would be, but while I agree that it's not possible to list the entire T&C, many sites fail to include a lot of important information in their promotion ads.

In some cases, information about minimum bets, minimum contribution amount or number of plays to be able to redeem certain prizes is included in very fine print.

However, in other cases, this information does not appear anywhere and the user only finds out about these "rules" after he has already started playing or made a certain contribution of money that does not correspond to the rules.

This is quite frustrating!
An advertisement, of any form, is basically to attract potential customers to the platform, and they are never meant to disclose or read out the terms and conditions of the platform, all they need to include in a promotion is a simple text which says, "Terms and conditions apply." and that's all. Those who read that and still don't go ahead and read the complete terms and conditions, it's not the casino's fault at all.

A user who only rushes to register, deposits, and starts betting on a casino by just reading about a bonus or something deserves to face the consequences if there are any, as it is their own responsibility to understand everything beforehand and then go ahead with the process.
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March 12, 2023, 06:35:34 AM
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An advertisement, of any form, is basically to attract potential customers to the platform, and they are never meant to disclose or read out the terms and conditions of the platform, all they need to include in a promotion is a simple text which says, "Terms and conditions apply." and that's all. Those who read that and still don't go ahead and read the complete terms and conditions, it's not the casino's fault at all.

A user who only rushes to register, deposits, and starts betting on a casino by just reading about a bonus or something deserves to face the consequences if there are any, as it is their own responsibility to understand everything beforehand and then go ahead with the process.

If this is the case then be aware that experienced gamblers know that no bonus comes without any terms and conditions. Also, most of the promotions may seem to favor the gamblers but when we read the terms and conditions associated with this, most of the time the gambler's casino gets the benefit.

The new gamblers may act quickly to get the bonus but experienced gamblers always first read the terms before availing the discount.

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March 12, 2023, 08:07:34 AM
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If this is the case then be aware that experienced gamblers know that no bonus comes without any terms and conditions. Also, most of the promotions may seem to favor the gamblers but when we read the terms and conditions associated with this, most of the time the gambler's casino gets the benefit.

The new gamblers may act quickly to get the bonus but experienced gamblers always first read the terms before availing the discount.
reason casinos provide bonuses with certain conditions is because until now there are still many gamblers who take advantage of these bonuses in bad ways, for example, using multiple accounts to get bonuses. even though the casino gives these bonuses to active customers and the casino wants gamblers who get bonuses to also make a good contribution to the casino.


so it doesn't matter if the casino provides bonuses with conditions and not only old users always see the bonus conditions but new users usually also check the terms before taking the bonus.

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March 12, 2023, 08:14:27 AM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.

I don't find anything wrong with casino advertising using small banners, of course there is no space for the terms and conditions. They will be shown on the casino website itself and we should always check them before signing up at a casino. Using terms and conditions is normal for any company, even the smallest business running some advertising are going to have it. Why should a casino be different from other businesses? They are necessary to protect a company from people using promotions and advertising in exploitative ways. The main thing with casino promotions is that they don't want the gambler to instantly withdraw any free money.
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There are no tricks behind the way that these banners are designed.... You click on the banner and you are re-directed to the site, where you have to signup to get access to the promotions. As part of the signup process, a option are usually required that you accept the terms and conditions of the site, so you cannot miss that.

Yes, many people just click "Yes, I accept" without reading the terms and conditions... but it's on them. So, make sure you read the terms and conditions, before you participate in the promotions.  Wink

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March 12, 2023, 10:15:28 AM
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Can you share some examples of promo banners that literally just redirect to the sign-up page? I said, promo banner exactly and not a marketing banner.

I think you can find many banners in internet including in this forum. You can try by visiting review sites where you can see many banners for many different casinos. Most banners shows an interesting offers such as Big Deposit Bonus, Free Spins, etc but most of them will redirect you to the sign up page first. I do not see it is something wrong as it is how they do it effectively to invite new players. As you said related to the term of the bonus as well as the general terms of condition about the casinos, we as players should do our own part.

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March 12, 2023, 10:32:46 AM
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Enticing promo banners but tncs that make these promos largely useless and these tncs aren't obvious from looking at banners. Upon click they redirect you to login/registration page whereas I feel click on to banner should redirect user to that particular promo's tnc.
Well that always the first step. Registration. But what I witness these days regarding casino or sports book registration is they are not that strict anymore. They usually just need your e-mail and you can start browsing their pages. It's not really much of a hassle if you want to look inside their website for the promos. It's a normal thing to keep their business secured. Besides, you can also use a dummy account if you are keeping your privacy or just want your computer/account clean.
Banners are scattered around mostly just for advertisements. They could change every week and the one posting it could be using the old ones.
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March 12, 2023, 11:11:14 AM
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An advertisement, of any form, is basically to attract potential customers to the platform, and they are never meant to disclose or read out the terms and conditions of the platform, all they need to include in a promotion is a simple text which says, "Terms and conditions apply." and that's all. Those who read that and still don't go ahead and read the complete terms and conditions, it's not the casino's fault at all.

A user who only rushes to register, deposits, and starts betting on a casino by just reading about a bonus or something deserves to face the consequences if there are any, as it is their own responsibility to understand everything beforehand and then go ahead with the process.
It is the responsibility of each person to always research the casino before they register themselves. If they have read it carefully, they can continue to play or deposit money immediately if they already have an account. But if they have doubts or are not sure about the casino, they don't need to register and look for other casinos. There is no compulsion to use the promo because we are the ones who must know the terms and conditions before deciding to take the promo.

Casinos have given attractive promos to everyone who sees the promos and it's up to each person. And casinos also never force users to visit their casinos because they know each user has the right to decide for himself.

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