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June 27, 2023, 09:49:35 AM
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Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.
you are completely right. Especially when bitcoin is in decline for a long time, then some altcoins generally cease to exist, since there is simply no demand for them and they are traded only against the dollar and have many zeros in price. as for me, such falls are even a good thing, since the market is being cleared of various dubious altcoins.
Unfortunately this is not a permanent process and those coins which disappeared are going to be eventually replaced by many other coins as scammers have nothing to lose by releasing a lot of projects, however I really expect that at some point on the future as adoption grows and people get disappointed with altcoins that we will finally see most of those coins disappear, as scammers run out of naive people to scam and deceive with their lies.
The ease of starting a new project to scam people is so easy, people do not even have an idea how easy it is to build a project and I do not mean just a terrible one I mean like a very good one as well. I can start a very very very amazing project for 10k dollars, as long as I do not have to follow up on what the promises are, and just scam people then with ten thousand dollars I can scam people for millions of dollars.

Yet for some reason people still see "good" projects and invest. Scamming others becoming easier and easier, hell I have seen people who literally talked about using AI to scam people these days, and that's getting at a scary level considering how easy that would make things for scammers, I hope we can stop them before it gets too late.

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June 28, 2023, 06:58:05 AM
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Quote from: Amejoaquim
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.

We have experienced so many things from Bitcoin and altcoins that made majority of Bitcoin and altcoins  investors to believed that altcoins cannot survive without Bitcoin because whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing in the market altcoins price will be increasing too. Bitcoin price increase higher few days ago that make altcoins investors to start having hope on altcoins that the price will increase higher before the end of this last week in the month of June, so that they can sell their altcoins to make profit. Bitcoin will still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies no matter the challenges may be in the market because Bitcoin has more population than altcoins.

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June 28, 2023, 09:45:56 AM
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Quote from: Amejoaquim
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.

We have experienced so many things from Bitcoin and altcoins that made majority of Bitcoin and altcoins  investors to believed that altcoins cannot survive without Bitcoin because whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing in the market altcoins price will be increasing too. Bitcoin price increase higher few days ago that make altcoins investors to start having hope on altcoins that the price will increase higher before the end of this last week in the month of June, so that they can sell their altcoins to make profit. Bitcoin will still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies no matter the challenges may be in the market because Bitcoin has more population than altcoins.
It is clear that Bitcoin will still be king because it will be very difficult for sure for other coins to beat it,
that's why Bitcoin is the benchmark for altcoins,
what is clear is that we will see how far it goes.



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June 28, 2023, 10:53:02 PM
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Quote from: Amejoaquim
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.

We have experienced so many things from Bitcoin and altcoins that made majority of Bitcoin and altcoins  investors to believed that altcoins cannot survive without Bitcoin because whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing in the market altcoins price will be increasing too. Bitcoin price increase higher few days ago that make altcoins investors to start having hope on altcoins that the price will increase higher before the end of this last week in the month of June, so that they can sell their altcoins to make profit. Bitcoin will still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies no matter the challenges may be in the market because Bitcoin has more population than altcoins.
There's always a separate market on which if ever Bitcoin would really be falling into its demise and would really be going into the floor then for sure majority of coins would be plummeting down too on which
it would really be that a normal scenario or condition that we would really be able to face on but we cant really avoid the fact that there would be coins that would be going into the opposite side or path.
If there's something bad happen on Bitcoin then the entire crypto space confidence would really be greatly be affected but doesnt mean that it would really be over for everything.

Demand and recognition would be the key on which there would really be those coins who would be able to survive with this kind of situation on which if the market plummets then for sure
lots of buyers would really be looking into a certain point for them to buyback and this would be entirely be depending if interest and demand would be still there.
Its really just that normal that emotions would really be playing out these kind of times.

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June 28, 2023, 11:57:06 PM
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It is clear that Bitcoin will still be king because it will be very difficult for sure for other coins to beat it,
that's why Bitcoin is the benchmark for altcoins,
what is clear is that we will see how far it goes.
The answer can be known easily but people keep talking what's gonna happen with altcoin if bitcoin dead and it sounds that these people never saw the bull and bear trend that happened in the crypto market right now.
I do believe if everything gonna back again to the zero value if bitcoin will be vanished but impossible to happen now.

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July 03, 2023, 02:21:39 AM
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Quote from: Amejoaquim
Altcoins cannot be survive without BTC.
If you looked into the market, when the price of bitcoin down and all of the altcoins gonna fall too.
So in my opinion bitcoin is just like the central of any altcoins in cryptospace.

We have experienced so many things from Bitcoin and altcoins that made majority of Bitcoin and altcoins  investors to believed that altcoins cannot survive without Bitcoin because whenever the price of Bitcoin is increasing in the market altcoins price will be increasing too. Bitcoin price increase higher few days ago that make altcoins investors to start having hope on altcoins that the price will increase higher before the end of this last week in the month of June, so that they can sell their altcoins to make profit. Bitcoin will still remain the king among other cryptocurrencies no matter the challenges may be in the market because Bitcoin has more population than altcoins.
It is clear that Bitcoin will still be king because it will be very difficult for sure for other coins to beat it,
that's why Bitcoin is the benchmark for altcoins,
what is clear is that we will see how far it goes.
the trust factor brought bitcoin to the top of cryptocurrency, many even identified cryptocurrencies as bitcoin. bitcoin is not affected by the movement of altcoins, but instead altcoins are affected by the movement of bitcoin. therefore from the beginning until now bitcoin will always be the king of cryptocurrencies, and until later I think it will also be in the same position. it is difficult for ethereum as the closest altcoin to bitcoin to surpass it when viewed from the difference in the total market capitulation
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July 08, 2023, 06:47:27 AM
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BTC is the pioneer and i don't think altcoin will survive if the btc fall. But in this current situation it almost impossible for BTC to fall because BTC is already too big and there so many supporter for this coin.

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July 17, 2023, 06:43:15 PM
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I have a feeling the worst is over for Altcoins, everything bad that could draw the price down had already happened. Now is the time to start making real position in the mid to top cap Altcoins in the space. Not all these Altcoins would make it to the next bull market that is all it has always been so it is better to go for Altcoins with no bagholders that are looking to dump every time the price goes up


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August 02, 2023, 03:34:16 AM
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I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.

I agree with you, because Bitcoin is the main foundation in cryptocurrency, so of course the price of Bitcoin greatly affects the price of altcoin, therefore Bitcoin price movements will affect market conditions, so therefore 50% more of my assets in cryptocurrency are in Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is the best investment for the long term and definitely give me profit.

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August 02, 2023, 05:01:27 AM
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it's true that when bitcoin goes up, altcoins will also go up, actually I don't know about this but I'm only speaking according to my experience. In my opinion, this happens because of habit or from a fundamental point of view, people usually have a habit when BTC goes up, altcoins also go up and vice versa. but sometimes altcoins can go up even though btc is down because there is positive news about the altcoin.
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August 07, 2023, 12:04:21 PM
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
if btc dies meaning doomsday happen on economic globally neither nuclear war which is wont happen  Cheesy, or satoshi pop up and decided to end btc
in our lifetime crypto would change basic principle of money and as you can see everyone can makes personal content to gain profit. this trend wont change

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August 09, 2023, 02:55:30 AM
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I don't think altcoins can survive without btc, so I think the price of btc will continue to affect the price of altcoins.
some examples have been seen when an altcoin is rising, then the btc price suddenly drops, the altcoin will also immediately fall.

I agree with you, because Bitcoin is the main foundation in cryptocurrency, so of course the price of Bitcoin greatly affects the price of altcoin, therefore Bitcoin price movements will affect market conditions, so therefore 50% more of my assets in cryptocurrency are in Bitcoin, because Bitcoin is the best investment for the long term and definitely give me profit.
the main parameter in cryptocurrency is bitcoin, and as if movements in the cryptocurrency market are based on bitcoin movements, therefore I myself am also penalized if altcoins can survive if bitcoin dies. Of course, if bitcoin dies, it means that the cryptocurrency market will also die. Many investors will not believe it, which will eventually impact altcoins. bitcoin is like a king in the cryptocurrency world, and if the king dies then his troops will run topsy-turvy

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August 09, 2023, 04:02:10 AM
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I have a feeling the worst is over for Altcoins, everything bad that could draw the price down had already happened. Now is the time to start making real position in the mid to top cap Altcoins in the space.

Well, I respectfully disagree with your point of view, I think the worst season for altcoin is about to happen. Although we are seeing some minor pumps in the altcoin market, this is just a hint to gain the attention of investors. The altcoin market is about to dump. 

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Not all these Altcoins would make it to the next bull market that is all it has always been so it is better to go for Altcoins with no bagholders that are looking to dump every time the price goes up

Yes! The majority of altcoins investments are a one-time thing. You enter, make a profit and forget the coin. The reason is that they are not going up any time soon.

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August 09, 2023, 07:29:08 AM
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Btc is the first world best crypto which has taken over the core rea marketcap in the crypto market but if anyone thinks that altcoins can survive in the crypto market without btc, I would say they are totally wrong.  Altacoin can never survive without Btc.  Altacoins always depend on BTC movement, as BTC acts as the dominant currency.  Looking at the market, BTC is dominant in every cryptocurrency. There is no liquidity to back up altcoins.  Altcoins have advantages as well as disadvantages but their certainty is not guaranteed. Altcoins are considered based on BTC price where as BTC decreases the price of altcoins also decreases. Altcoins cannot be thought of without BTC.
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August 09, 2023, 08:17:12 AM
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.
but you did not mentioned about how altcoin moves in the past years without bitcoin moving up?
and that is what we called altcoin season.
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That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
potentially ? yeah Altcoin will die together with bitcoin if the system will remain such this.
so I don't know where or when or if this are going to happen , but altcoin will indeed died with the  main coin.

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August 10, 2023, 07:26:02 AM
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.
but you did not mentioned about how altcoin moves in the past years without bitcoin moving up?
and that is what we called altcoin season.
I think that will not happen, I mean not anytime soon at least. I still think that we can make a retirement plan that involves bitcoin without fear and it should be fine. However, if we plan on something like this then we could always say that you are right and alts will die too. Whatever has caused bitcoin to be zero or near zero, will not pity alts and keep them that way, they will all be gone and be zero as well, that's just how it is.

I know that it's hard to accept that, but that's the reality. It's going to be a tough situation to be in, but it's going to be fine. I hope that it gets to a point where we are talking about something unrealistic to me, like having gold go to zero, it's as unlikely as that if you ask me.

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August 10, 2023, 09:28:23 PM
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.
but you did not mentioned about how altcoin moves in the past years without bitcoin moving up?
and that is what we called altcoin season.
I think that will not happen, I mean not anytime soon at least. I still think that we can make a retirement plan that involves bitcoin without fear and it should be fine. However, if we plan on something like this then we could always say that you are right and alts will die too. Whatever has caused bitcoin to be zero or near zero, will not pity alts and keep them that way, they will all be gone and be zero as well, that's just how it is.

I know that it's hard to accept that, but that's the reality. It's going to be a tough situation to be in, but it's going to be fine. I hope that it gets to a point where we are talking about something unrealistic to me, like having gold go to zero, it's as unlikely as that if you ask me.
Always set precautionary measures because despite on being that #1 in the market doesnt mean that it would really be giving out guarantees that it would last forever or would really be able to stay up that on point.

This is why it would really be always that nice or ideal approach on having that risks management thing because on the time that you wont really be that making yourself that not expecting too much
and wont really get wrecked on the time that the market would really be going into the opposite side. We cant really be able to tell that altcoins would be solely be dependent with Bitcoin but cant really be denied that on the time that Bitcoin would be kissing on the floor then everything would follow but we dont know if there would be altcoins would be able to widthstand such condition or situation on which it might
potentially be able to replace Bitcoin into its position.

No one really knows on what would be the future looks like and this is why, its always been that ideal on having that kind of normal approach on things on which it would really be just that
possible to happen or not. We dont know on what the futures lies ahead in speaking with this market.
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August 14, 2023, 12:29:02 PM
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
This is just a thought experiment and nothing more. I think the market is doing fine and all these small tiny drops do not really mean anything if you ask me. I understand that people do not look at it like they look at real thing but still thinking about what could happen on the long run is a weird one.

I think it should be remembered that we are living in a situation where things should be easier to handle and we could potentially do that if we are smart about it. I understand that life is not that simple but at the very least life is not as hard as people think it is. Hopefully it will get to a point where we are not going to end up with anything much worse than this, and that should help people look at the bright side.
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August 14, 2023, 02:03:56 PM
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It looks total crabs that without btc altcoin has no value streaming on its own. I observed several occasions when btc experience downtime, it affects the rest of the altcoin and when it pumps altcoin experience likewise.  I classified bitcoin as 🚜 tractors that levels prices of altcoins. ETH is second world best crypto that occupied core ria marketcap in the crypto market but yet it cannot survive without btc.

That's mean alternatively, if btc falls flat altcoin will dies off. What their deep relationship? Why btc important to altcoin, what's the connection in between? Will altcoins really survive without btc?
bitcoin is a role model of all types of crypto that exist today. So, when bitcoin falls, it's very likely that altcoins will also fall unless those altcoins really have advantages and better commutation than bitcoin, but so far I don't think there has been an altcoin that has surpassed bitcoin.
In addition, if only bitcoin prices fell, then altcoin prices would actually fall, and probably most of the altcoin projects would go bankrupt. However, I hope that this will never happen.

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August 17, 2023, 05:35:20 PM
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I think that will not happen, I mean not anytime soon at least. I still think that we can make a retirement plan that involves bitcoin without fear and it should be fine. However, if we plan on something like this then we could always say that you are right and alts will die too. Whatever has caused bitcoin to be zero or near zero, will not pity alts and keep them that way, they will all be gone and be zero as well, that's just how it is.

I know that it's hard to accept that, but that's the reality. It's going to be a tough situation to be in, but it's going to be fine. I hope that it gets to a point where we are talking about something unrealistic to me, like having gold go to zero, it's as unlikely as that if you ask me.
We are not going to have bitcoin crashing anytime soon, so there is no need to fear the possibility of this. We are at a point where its all doing well enough and we do not have to worry about anything at all. I understand that its going to take a while before people could realize the situation we are in, but we are getting closer to halving so the price will certainly start to go up instead.

The possibility of bitcoin going down, and altcoins following it just stays in imaginations and made up conversations, its not real and its not going to be real and talking about it only gives it life. This is why I do not think that it should be considered an important aspect, there is really nothing to worry about in this matter.

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