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March 11, 2023, 02:41:12 PM
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Either the government legalizes gambling or not people will always abuse a setup system, forbthe fact that we have a large number of gamblers with everyone competing to make winning from a casino and some begin to device means to cheat abd byepass the process to the normal protocol, we have to consider that gambling is also decentralized in the sense that no single authority in charge of every gambling activities, so anyone can decided on coming in with something new to offer gamblers irrespective of the circumstances attached.

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March 11, 2023, 03:35:45 PM
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Gambling rings are more like a hidden set of high rollers who align together in a secret location to stake bets, their locations are difficult to find, so a person who doesn't have a link or a member of their ring or clique may not ever find this place. So legalizing gambling won't help gambling rings since these shot-callers are evading tax. Indeed, many people run to such services because gambling is illegal in their country, but that doesn't out rule the fact that gambling rings don't exist in countries where gambling activities are not frowned at by the government. If the security agencies can't locate or stop them, then it'll be hard to reduce gambling rings. Though a few of them are being apprehended, but the high profits made from the business is adding more flair the business.

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March 11, 2023, 03:43:01 PM
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Gambling rings are high-risk and high-reward operations that take advantage of market demand and turn it in their favor. Their modus operandi thrives on secrecy and they are involved in organizing all sorts of gambling games - slots, poker, blackjack, sports bet etc.Although the law enforcement agencies are doing their best, it is still a lot of work trying to crackdown on these rings. Gambling rings are illegal and people who are caught may either pay a huge fine or serve jail time.

I want to believe that so many people who patronize these gambling rings may have lost a lot of money or scammed and there is nothing they can do about it. And one of the reasons why people may even choose to patronize these gambling rings aside the high rewards is because gambling is banned in their society.

However I am thinking that if gambling is legalized, we would see a drastic reduction (not total elimination) in the operations of these rings. My reasons are that their activities will be carried out in a fair and transparent manner such that cases of frauds and scams will be eliminated as there will be proper mechanisms in place to prevent and protect the gamblers.

Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?
Hmmm I think in some countries, gambling is legal. Take for example here in our country gambling is legal as long as it is regulated by the government and they are paying taxes often with no sign of violating any law then it is legal but then most of the people here still go to illegal gambling because it only needs small amount of money and sometimes you will get big in return. Gambling rings or some gambling gangs rules illegal gambling sometimes also legal ones. We cannot control every single one of them.
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March 11, 2023, 03:53:53 PM
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If the government can regulate all casinos, let alone make them legal, at least the government can get additional revenue from many of these casinos. But by legalizing gambling, the government must also be prepared to deal with other problems because that could trigger more people to play gambling, even though the government has explained that gambling can be addictive.

And maybe the government can tighten the rules even more if they finally legalize gambling in their country. And the government must also supervise every casino properly so that there is no cheating on the part of the casino and immediately impose penalties if they are caught cheating their customers.

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March 11, 2023, 04:37:16 PM
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Either the government legalizes gambling or not people will always abuse a setup system, forbthe fact that we have a large number of gamblers with everyone competing to make winning from a casino and some begin to device means to cheat abd byepass the process to the normal protocol, we have to consider that gambling is also decentralized in the sense that no single authority in charge of every gambling activities, so anyone can decided on coming in with something new to offer gamblers irrespective of the circumstances attached.
This is the usual target of every greedy gamblers and an organization that works as scam group, they are trying to avoid the system security by committing illegal transactions, fortunately most of the site now are really secured and they have protocols on how they can handle such abuser. As I've said, legalizing gambling will not guarantee anything but if the government want's to regulate gambling they should start it by legalizing this one and set-aside the opinions of the others for the sake of the security of the public.
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March 11, 2023, 06:05:59 PM
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As I am from one countries that banned gambling except sports betting (Türkiye). Here are some gambling rings mainly in rich but underlooked households. They mostly look like coffee/tea houses where people are playing backgammon or just regular cards. But I know that they run gambling as well. When you legalize gambling, gamblers would prefer to go regulated ones because they will feel safer. That's why I am completely supporting idea of legal gambling. Its good for community. We should keep in mind that criminal activity should be avoided for better experience.
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March 11, 2023, 06:19:45 PM
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Gambling rings are high-risk and high-reward operations that take advantage of market demand and turn it in their favor. Their modus operandi thrives on secrecy and they are involved in organizing all sorts of gambling games - slots, poker, blackjack, sports bet etc.Although the law enforcement agencies are doing their best, it is still a lot of work trying to crackdown on these rings. Gambling rings are illegal and people who are caught may either pay a huge fine or serve jail time.

I want to believe that so many people who patronize these gambling rings may have lost a lot of money or scammed and there is nothing they can do about it. And one of the reasons why people may even choose to patronize these gambling rings aside the high rewards is because gambling is banned in their society.

However I am thinking that if gambling is legalized, we would see a drastic reduction (not total elimination) in the operations of these rings. My reasons are that their activities will be carried out in a fair and transparent manner such that cases of frauds and scams will be eliminated as there will be proper mechanisms in place to prevent and protect the gamblers.

Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?

The fact that gambling ring is illegal, the implementation of gambling legalities will surely reduce this kind of activity but not completely shut them down.  There will be always people who wanted to earn money in illegal way because it brings double or triple the profit than the legalized one since they don't need to pay for licenses and taxes and they don't operate under any regulation so these people can cheat their players/gamblers easily.
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March 11, 2023, 06:24:01 PM
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Certainly legalizing gambling activities will eliminate the illegal gambling operators so the users can experience the fair gambling and feeling secured about their bets and reward. Some countries made gambling as illegal for various reasons especially their religion is against it for example in most Islamic countries gambling is completely banned which lead to the underground operators and their own terms and conditions which highly favorable for them.









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March 11, 2023, 06:47:52 PM
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Not sure if this will be very effective though, in our country there are still gambling rings around and although some of the games are legalized, they are players who opt to still play or even bet on this illegal bookies.

So it is still better if their is a police that will implement because they are going to be part of the solution. But if the police themselves gives protection to this illegal dens and others, I think it will be hard to reduced this gambling rings.

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March 11, 2023, 07:26:39 PM
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Legalize it, (!?), it is not the way out, since even in Las Vegas they are prohibited.

So, you wonder how it is possible, but it exist!
secret "parties" are known to be organized, e.g.  private poker games, the type of game is irrelevant, so, they exist anywhere and can be very luxurious or very gloomy.

There are people who, regardless of their social and economic status, want that type of gambling or environment  undistinguished room ("rings").

And there it is legal, it is the city of bets/ gambler.

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March 11, 2023, 07:43:51 PM
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One of the reasons why people tend to break the law and do illegal gambling is because of too many restrictions. If the government will reduce the legalization of gambling, gamblers will surely choose to play legally and will do fair play.
In some countries, some people are doing underground gambling because of gambling restrictions in the area. We have to be mindful that gamblers will always find ways to bet and play so allowing them to play legally will also reduce the risk of commiting with illegal gambling.
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March 11, 2023, 07:59:46 PM
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Gambling rings are high-risk and high-reward operations that take advantage of market demand and turn it in their favor. Their modus operandi thrives on secrecy and they are involved in organizing all sorts of gambling games - slots, poker, blackjack, sports bet etc.Although the law enforcement agencies are doing their best, it is still a lot of work trying to crackdown on these rings. Gambling rings are illegal and people who are caught may either pay a huge fine or serve jail time.

I want to believe that so many people who patronize these gambling rings may have lost a lot of money or scammed and there is nothing they can do about it. And one of the reasons why people may even choose to patronize these gambling rings aside the high rewards is because gambling is banned in their society.

However I am thinking that if gambling is legalized, we would see a drastic reduction (not total elimination) in the operations of these rings. My reasons are that their activities will be carried out in a fair and transparent manner such that cases of frauds and scams will be eliminated as there will be proper mechanisms in place to prevent and protect the gamblers.

Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?
I don't think it will. Gambling rings exist not because they aren't legal but because there are people who frequent their rings and gamble. Legalizing gambling within their country may urge some of these operators to get licensed so they can operate in broad daylight, just as how Bingo in the Philippines was banned back then but was since legalized and allowed to operate albeit with proper license. Still, you'll see that there are places especially in the rural areas who operate secretly and has allowed people to gamble. So to put it simply, the illegal gambling scheme will remain unfazed or indifferent towards the legalization of their games, some of them may see this is as an opportunity to go legal and therefore take licenses, but the rest of the industry will go about their daily grind as per usual routine.

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March 11, 2023, 08:06:38 PM
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They'll remain to be there, although of course there will be limitations on their movements as the government will be on the lookout for such gambling rings to take down. There will always be patrons supporting illegal gambling rings, even if the government already supports legal gambling platforms in the area. Sometimes it's due to tradition or habit, but for the most part it's because they believe they have better chances of winning on these casinos compared to the legal ones that are surveyed and audited by the government.

It'll be a long journey ahead, but considering that places like Macau and Vegas exist, it's not impossible that the legalization of gambling (with limitations, of course) happens in the near future.
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Gambling legalisation will rather increase gambling rings than reducing it because it will give gambling rings more hands to take more advantages of high of market demands. Regardless of the consequences of their act. In communities where gambling are banned, there is a higher tendencies that gambling rings will take advantage of that. So i think is will be difficult if not impossible for gambling legalisation to reduce or stop gambling rings.

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March 11, 2023, 08:19:28 PM
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Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?

Obviously, running a legal gambling operation will make business owners comfortable that everything is complying with the law. Easy also to market their service anywhere since nothing to hide shady things from the public. Legalization will also make way for these gambling operators to face some penalties if they do some sh*t to their clients and customers.

With the legalization of gambling, the government can take taxes from these gambling operators and be part of the country's revenue source.

Illegal activities can never be totally eliminated as there are always operators who don't want to comply with the law for selfish reasons but there is no doubt that the legalization of gambling will minimize and slow down their progress.

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Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?

Obviously, running a legal gambling operation will make business owners comfortable that everything is complying with the law. Easy also to market their service anywhere since nothing to hide shady things from the public. Legalization will also make way for these gambling operators to face some penalties if they do some sh*t to their clients and customers.

With the legalization of gambling, the government can take taxes from these gambling operators and be part of the country's revenue source.

Illegal activities can never be totally eliminated as there are always operators who don't want to comply with the law for selfish reasons but there is no doubt that the legalization of gambling will minimize and slow down their progress.

There will always be black market even if legalization will take place.
Because there are some people who still want to launder their money, and they won't play in the legal sites.
I believe, legalization will give the government a very good source of income, however, it won't stop from other people not to use the black market.
It may possibly reduce those who are operating under the table but it won't get rid of them. There will always be one organization that will operate away from government protocols.
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When we talked about illegal gambling activities being reduced, then we can expect that to happen once gambling legalization takes place as long as the law will be implemented strictly and with strong teeth. Legalization is necessary for gambling businesses, for gamblers not to patronize illegal gambling. Gamblers will also have the assurance that they are safe when gambling only on a legal gambling service.

I don't want to be involved in illegal gambling as I want my gambling experience freely as I want without worrying that I will face legal problems. Being legal to is my basis before using any gambling site that I considered playing with.
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March 11, 2023, 08:56:44 PM
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When we talked about illegal gambling activities being reduced, then we can expect that to happen once gambling legalization takes place as long as the law will be implemented strictly and with strong teeth. Legalization is necessary for gambling businesses, for gamblers not to patronize illegal gambling. Gamblers will also have the assurance that they are safe when gambling only on a legal gambling service.

I don't want to be involved in illegal gambling as I want my gambling experience freely as I want without worrying that I will face legal problems. Being legal to is my basis before using any gambling site that I considered playing with.
Implementation would really be the key on here on which i do agree on what you have said that it should really be strictly implemented and there's should be no exemptions and would totally be following

 on what are those laws and regulations which would really be needing to be followed but im not really that shocked nor get surprised if ever there would be still those special treatment if we do speak about those people who do have financial capacity and on position or does have power to have those advantages.

This is why this type of problem isnt something that could really be resolved out and would continue out to exist.

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Just like in any other illegal activity, the strong implementation of legalization will reduce the number of services that are running in the shadow. In gambling, it's really important to have strong legalization to redirect people to only choosing legal operations allowed by the government.

If possible, heavy sanctions should be imposed on those who will attempt to operate illegal gambling operations.

I hope that way, illegal gambling activity will be minimized and will serve as a discouragement as afraid to face the consequences.

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March 11, 2023, 09:29:04 PM
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What is the need for using a service that have got more and more risk with a higher reward on the amount risked. We've got trusted platforms that gives access to each and every game and other casino games. Apart from the online services you've got best land based casinos. Good is to use those than thinking of legalizing.

In the past when bookies were much dependent for all the gambling needs such activities had their usage. Now they're no more into usage as gambling is much user friendly and with trust one can have some good time spent and entertained.

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