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March 13, 2023, 03:49:51 PM
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Stable coins have never been good and have never really helped cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin. What they mainly did was to help short term traders get in and out of different altcoins and even between exchanges quickly. Otherwise we always knew that even the biggest stablecoins are too risky to use considering how centralized and mostly shady they are. They can even freeze your coins any time they want: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204055.0
Pooya87, your comment makes it sound as if stable coins are more useful for altcoin traders than Bitcoin traders, but what about us?
Because I don't trade any other pair than BTC/USDT.

I can't lie,  I am able to get my hands on Bitcoin by taking advantage of dumps in the market because of stable coins, I always swap my Fiat into USDT at first, and wait patiently for a dump or create an order on the exchange.Stablecoinsins are useful, both for buyers and traders only. 

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March 13, 2023, 05:08:30 PM
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If something hasn't changed, then it's exactly as @Pmalek confirmed. As far as I know, if you are employed, what you get from signature campaigns should be declared as other income and reported every time you receive a payment.
Yes, because you worked for it. You provided a service and got paid for it. The law doesn't make sense because I think you are required to pay tax on the current value at the point you received it. But we saw what happened with bitcoin in the last few days. It went down 10%, then it went up over 10% in a day. By the time you have converted the BTC into fiat, you could have lost money on it, but the government doesn't care.

Hm good point, for a moment I forgot that signature campaign payment is seen as 2nd income. I think I'm gonna ask it in the taxes thread in our local board since there is our guy there that knows this crypto taxes stuff inside & out.
I think our tax expert already covered that in some of his posts. No idea where though.

Pooya87, your comment makes it sound as if stable coins are more useful for altcoin traders than Bitcoin traders, but what about us?
Because I don't trade any other pair than BTC/USDT.

I can't lie,  I am able to get my hands on Bitcoin by taking advantage of dumps in the market because of stable coins, I always swap my Fiat into USDT at first, and wait patiently for a dump...
You can just as easily avoid USDT and purchase your coins on exchanges that support fiat through USD, EUR, or whatever you use. Even the (so-called) popular P2P centralized exchanges allow buying with various fiat payment options. You don't need Tether for what you are doing at all.

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March 13, 2023, 05:22:55 PM
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I think our tax expert already covered that in some of his posts. No idea where though.
You are right, I managed to find the posts from last year where guys discussed exactly that. As a matter of fact I think I saw those posts before but I guess I decided to block it when I saw how impractical it is to actually do it.

Government's short-sightedness never ceases to amaze me; instead of making it easy so people can report it and they get some money out of it, they made is so complicated that no one will bother with it, meaning less money for them. GG

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March 13, 2023, 06:56:59 PM
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I believe that people would be much more inclined to pay tax on that type of income - but according to my law, I would have to file a report every time I receive a payment, which means every week of the year.
Exactly. They don't make it easier for the payers. Their rigid and ill-conceived rules expect you to pay your tax within a day or two of receiving your signature payment, and then run to your local tax office a few days later, stand in line, and submit the paperwork. I am supposed to skip work every week to to that? Yeah, right.

serious question, why focus on fiat stable coins when the real stable coin...is bitcoin!?
Bitcoin is stable only in your dreams. Wink

Fiat or stablecoins can be seized, have inflation, are centralized more and more and more other negative things. Probably they have also some defects.

Meanwhile
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Isnt a stable Coin Smiley ?

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March 14, 2023, 06:47:25 PM
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Meanwhile
1 btc = 1 btc
Total emission = 21 milions coins already planned and defined.
Isnt a stable Coin Smiley ?
No, it's not stable. Value is measured against fiat whether we like it or not. That's the way it's going to be until and if bitcoin becomes the asset that everything else is compared with. A highly doubtful scenario. An asset that goes from $23k down to $20k and then back up to almost $26k in 15 days isn't stable.

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That quote from satoshi is out of place. Satoshi said that in relation to Bitcoin's 10 minute block time, replying to a user who thought transaction confirmations must be quicker than 10 mins on average.   

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March 14, 2023, 07:37:11 PM
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@Pmalek
Why using a shitcoin as unit of measure for everything? Smiley
If value is not directly related to fiat but only to btc...our crypto become a stablecoin with all advantages that I have described early in my previous post.

I dont want convince anyone, but if you change perspective... you can realize why I think definition of stabile currency can be adopted with Bitcoin and why its more stable than fiat currency.
My 2 satoshi Smiley

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March 14, 2023, 07:57:58 PM
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Why using a shitcoin as unit of measure for everything? Smiley
Because that's the way it works right now. I just tell it how it is. Walk into your newest grocery store and check the prices on the shelves. Are they in BTC or your local fiat currency? When your mechanic changes your winter to summer tires, he handles you a bill denominated in fiat, not BTC. When your electricity bill arrives every month, the amount you owe is shown in fiat. When you go to the dentist to remove a rotten tooth, the doctor asks you cash or credit card, not bitcoin or ethereum. If and when we get to the point where these services would rather take your BTC, then we are on the right path. But we aren't there.   

If value is not directly related to fiat but only to btc...our crypto become a stablecoin with all advantages that I have described early in my previous post.
But that's an "if" it will happen and "when". We are currently no where close to living in such a world.

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