How succesful will AI projects be to win the house?

[Bushdark]

I have being following up with this discussion of AI usage for gambling and i fine it very interesting if gamblers can use it to beat the probably fairs system of the casino which have limited players in many ways but with AI now players can now beat rhe casinos to it.

I'm not sure AI can be used to win at gambling, I believe that casinos have anticipated this AI of course, so there's no loophole for gamblers to take advantage of this AI to be able to win from home, after all this is just artificial intelligence made by humans too and will not be designed to win the gamble.  

It can be used to win bets but the problem is we don't need to have a continuous dependency on AI for us to win bet because of it lapses. It also depends on the kind of bet we are playing especially when we go for sport bets. It would not be that easy for IA to dominate in sport bets because the outcome is not determined by the house but rather by the team and the players that are playing the match. Using AI can be more useful and predictable when we play on dice game, and other similar games too.

[abel1337]

I have being following up with this discussion of AI usage for gambling and i fine it very interesting if gamblers can use it to beat the probably fairs system of the casino which have limited players in many ways but with AI now players can now beat rhe casinos to it.

I'm not sure AI can be used to win at gambling, I believe that casinos have anticipated this AI of course, so there's no loophole for gamblers to take advantage of this AI to be able to win from home, after all this is just artificial intelligence made by humans too and will not be designed to win the gamble.  

Most of us are aware of how powerful AI is today since AI existed on every part of our lives now. Though with the hype of AI today, I think there developers who aim on making an powerful AI that is sole purpose is to win on casinos. This kind of AI should be the one that casino be ready for. I believe that casino owners know that sooner or later, There will be an AI that will interact with their casino and they should be ready on it by driving them away or not allowing them to win in their casino. AI can be too powerful and we can see how can AI on that is made on our current generation is now performing. I just believe that AI should be regulated as they can interrupt our daily lives soon if those become over powerful that we humans can't control it anymore.

[Hamphser]

I have being following up with this discussion of AI usage for gambling and i fine it very interesting if gamblers can use it to beat the probably fairs system of the casino which have limited players in many ways but with AI now players can now beat rhe casinos to it.

I'm not sure AI can be used to win at gambling, I believe that casinos have anticipated this AI of course, so there's no loophole for gamblers to take advantage of this AI to be able to win from home, after all this is just artificial intelligence made by humans too and will not be designed to win the gamble.  

Most of us are aware of how powerful AI is today since AI existed on every part of our lives now. Though with the hype of AI today, I think there developers who aim on making an powerful AI that is sole purpose is to win on casinos. This kind of AI should be the one that casino be ready for. I believe that casino owners know that sooner or later, There will be an AI that will interact with their casino and they should be ready on it by driving them away or not allowing them to win in their casino. AI can be too powerful and we can see how can AI on that is made on our current generation is now performing. I just believe that AI should be regulated as they can interrupt our daily lives soon if those become over powerful that we humans can't control it anymore.

Lots of hypes honestly but there are people who do really pushes it out on something which isnt really that realistic anymore on where trying out to make out some claims that it is effective there and that which

we know that it cant really just that possible nor really that applicable for it to be used on some aspects but people do really keep on pushing it for it to work until they would realize that its totally irrelevant.

Making use of AI just to beat up the house? Do we really think that gambling industry and businesses would really be letting these things to happen on choosing up the response or bet line basing up on
AI selection or recommendation? There's a con's to it actually if it does work.

[Lida93]

A bot that makes sports betting predictions, according to the author of the first video, it seems to me that it may well be a useful tool that makes it easier for players to bet on a possible winner, because not everyone is deeply immersed in the events of different sports and an extra analysis will always be useful.

What then is the need for more indepth or extra analysis from the bettor when that is what would have been expected that the bot must have critically done already before giving out any form of predictions on a giving sport game to be bet upon. If then that's the case that I as a gambler need to scratch my head for more analysis then it's best I just depend on only what my head can give me based on any analysis I can make given the information before me about the sport or game I may be betting on.
All am saying is, if anyone is depending on AI project for any win then it should be a complete dependence not the other way.

[Z390]

AI is artificial intelligence, made by men, this is not a god or something, gambling companies must be aware of AI existence and I am sure that they know exactly what to do to counter any AI theft or cheat in games, because if AI could make you win games it's cheating, and since this is created by man, adjustments can be made, there will be some limitation to what this AI can do for humans, right now the discussion about how AI will affect studies and teaching in schools is still on the ground and this can affect companies too, this isn't what we want for human race.

[mak013]

The AI is based on scripts, even if they are very difficult. I don`t think that it is possible to win the house in any situation, but the AI can help to increase the winning percent. May be if we`ll use correct money management we can get profit for some time, but for a long distance it is impossible. The bookies will ban such gamblers or decrease odds and bet limits. Anyway the casino willn`t give someone to win them.

[doomloop]

Don't forget this is a computer designed by humans and can be manipulated or defeated by same knowledge of humans that are in charge of these casinos. There's no assurance depending on AI for better and bigger win as the chances are still slim and predominantly based on luck just like with human ability only been used.

Well, though you are partly right that the models are created by humans and can also be defeated by humans, it's basically not a fight between an AI model and humans, but it is more like humans vs humans because those that will defeat the models will be facing the model's abilities that are actually being utilized by another human behind the model.

So this war basically is between humans where one will try to utilize the abilities of an invention while the other will try to beat it with luck and the advantage it has over it that's the house edge every casino has.

[Peanutswar]

I have being following up with this discussion of AI usage for gambling and i fine it very interesting if gamblers can use it to beat the probably fairs system of the casino which have limited players in many ways but with AI now players can now beat rhe casinos to it.

I'm not sure AI can be used to win at gambling, I believe that casinos have anticipated this AI of course, so there's no loophole for gamblers to take advantage of this AI to be able to win from home, after all this is just artificial intelligence made by humans too and will not be designed to win the gamble.  

It can be used to win bets but the problem is we don't need to have a continuous dependency on AI for us to win bet because of it lapses. It also depends on the kind of bet we are playing especially when we go for sport bets. It would not be that easy for IA to dominate in sport bets because the outcome is not determined by the house but rather by the team and the players that are playing the match. Using AI can be more useful and predictable when we play on dice game, and other similar games too.

Those given data by the AI is the most ideal use for statistics analysis for sports betting because they can now easily get the data from the sources and the objective of the player is check and verify if there's a higher potential of winnings and what are the possible safe bets to prevent losses too much. In terms of how winning all of the games I guess the AI cannot make it because they have a different program and the gambling casino has their own way of system configuration with it so the chances of AI can predict the win will now lessen.

[aioc]

Those given data by the AI is the most ideal use for statistics analysis for sports betting because they can now easily get the data from the sources and the objective of the player is check and verify if there's a higher potential of winnings and what are the possible safe bets to prevent losses too much. In terms of how winning all of the games I guess the AI cannot make it because they have a different program and the gambling casino has their own way of system configuration with it so the chances of AI can predict the win will now lessen.

That's true it's for statistics only to come out with probability, if you're a sports bettor the data that the AI will provide is a big help for your own analysis and bet, but we will never come to a point where we can ask AI for exact result and proceed to bet on it, it's gambling you can win or you can lose but I doubt it can give a good winning percentage.

But it's going to be a big concern for the house if a new AI will come that can accurately predict an outcome on sports betting, and what if a new AI will come out to lay out a strategy to bet the house in a game of luck like Dice, nothing is impossible but I don't want that to happen.

[klidex]

The AI is based on scripts, even if they are very difficult. I don`t think that it is possible to win the house in any situation, but the AI can help to increase the winning percent. May be if we`ll use correct money management we can get profit for some time, but for a long distance it is impossible. The bookies will ban such gamblers or decrease odds and bet limits. Anyway the casino willn`t give someone to win them.

Casino is a gambling business that is established to gain profit not loss, so the casino has all the smart systems to keep everything that makes the casino lose.
Like AI that has been designed to predict sports betting or something else, but casinos have smarter systems than AI created by someone.
Of course, casinos can never lose and don't want to be defeated in any way, because casinos are a profitable business, not a loss.

[Flexystar]

And do what?

Make the Casino go out of business and close down the casino so that we won’t have any Casinos to play on?
Have anyone understood or analysed any implications from such development?

All I can think right now are various questions which are not getting resolved but I’m having more questions one after another due ChatGPT stuff.

You pick anything these days from article writing to complex theories, from video processing to animations and what not GPT is there.

I only have one question to ask to community, whether this is worth it?

Now they are trying to compete the house edge as well, that’s literally complicated resolution which ain’t beneficial for the user experience in long run.

[Odusko]

The AI is based on scripts, even if they are very difficult. I don`t think that it is possible to win the house in any situation, but the AI can help to increase the winning percent. May be if we`ll use correct money management we can get profit for some time, but for a long distance it is impossible. The bookies will ban such gamblers or decrease odds and bet limits. Anyway the casino willn`t give someone to win them.

Casino is a gambling business that is established to gain profit not loss, so the casino has all the smart systems to keep everything that makes the casino lose.
Like AI that has been designed to predict sports betting or something else, but casinos have smarter systems than AI created by someone.
Of course, casinos can never lose and don't want to be defeated in any way, because casinos are a profitable business, not a loss.

Well, the basic fact is that casinos always wins over the player as usual but then we must also note that it is not in all cases that the casino will win some cases we have a situation where the player will successfully win over the house and come out with big winning.
But it is not certain if same can be achieved with AI because its operation has to do with bo activities which are not consistent.

[slapper]

AI is artificial intelligence, made by men, this is not a god or something, gambling companies must be aware of AI existence and I am sure that they know exactly what to do to counter any AI theft or cheat in games, because if AI could make you win games it's cheating, and since this is created by man, adjustments can be made, there will be some limitation to what this AI can do for humans, right now the discussion about how AI will affect studies and teaching in schools is still on the ground and this can affect companies too, this isn't what we want for human race.

Oh my, artificial intelligence and gambling huh? This might cast some trouble! If AI can help you win games, well, that's just cheating! But wait, aren't humans the fathers of AI? It's like competing in a card game against your identical twin, anticipating every move and never being caught off guard!

In all seriousness, though, we have discussed AI's influence on education and learning and many other industries, but what about gambling? Will AI dealers and players become popular? Perhaps we could design an AI that exhibits a flawless "poker face" algorithm, concealing its thoughts. Or, even better, let's invent an AI that always reveals a "tell" to signal when we should fold!

Enough for joking haha. We must be careful with A. Why?. It's a slippery slope, and we don't want to create something beyond our control. But let's not forget the potential benefits of AI. Who knows, maybe one day we'll have an entirely new species. But until that, there will be a lot of barriers need to be put down

[danadc]

Those given data by the AI is the most ideal use for statistics analysis for sports betting because they can now easily get the data from the sources and the objective of the player is check and verify if there's a higher potential of winnings and what are the possible safe bets to prevent losses too much. In terms of how winning all of the games I guess the AI cannot make it because they have a different program and the gambling casino has their own way of system configuration with it so the chances of AI can predict the win will now lessen.

That's true it's for statistics only to come out with probability, if you're a sports bettor the data that the AI will provide is a big help for your own analysis and bet, but we will never come to a point where we can ask AI for exact result and proceed to bet on it, it's gambling you can win or you can lose but I doubt it can give a good winning percentage.

But it's going to be a big concern for the house if a new AI will come that can accurately predict an outcome on sports betting, and what if a new AI will come out to lay out a strategy to bet the house in a game of luck like Dice, nothing is impossible but I don't want that to happen.

 The concern is that the casinos have a better AI that the players can develop, that's the Trick , I don't see any other way, and that will be a competition, now the KYC will be harder to do Because if there are players who will leave Everything in the hands of the AI because they will take advantage of all this to beat the casino , So what I think is that the casino will increase the House advantage and Thus it will be more difficult to win the normal player Who does not know how to use an AI,this It is something that can cause many Problems,so you should try to handle it very carefully.

[terrific]

I only have one question to ask to community, whether this is worth it?

It's worth to try for those that's really craving to win against the house. But these casinos have got almost unlimited budget to defeat those gamblers that will try to use ai to deal with the house. It may sound very easy but it's actually not.

Now they are trying to compete the house edge as well, that’s literally complicated resolution which ain’t beneficial for the user experience in long run.

If proven that the next versions of these ai's are too good to easily win against the houses then many of these reputable casinos would go bankrupt. But I don't think it will come to that point, as early as now they might have a plan and have come up into something when they see players or sees a way to use ai and get more chances of winning.

[famososMuertos]

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Oh my, artificial intelligence and gambling huh? This might cast some trouble! If AI can help you win games, well, that's just cheating! But wait, aren't humans the fathers of AI? It's like competing in a card game against your identical twin, anticipating every move and never being caught off guard!

In all seriousness, though, we have discussed AI's influence on education and learning and many other industries, but what about gambling? Will AI dealers and players become popular? Perhaps we could design an AI that exhibits a flawless "poker face" algorithm, concealing its thoughts. Or, even better, let's invent an AI that always reveals a "tell" to signal when we should fold!

Enough for joking haha. We must be careful with A. Why?. It's a slippery slope, and we don't want to create something beyond our control. But let's not forget the potential benefits of AI.

Who knows, maybe one day we'll have an entirely new species. But until that, there will be a lot of barriers need to be put down

I have separated the last sentence from your original post, since there were three response intentions, for me very sarcastic, but with sense in the subject, definitely that post was not made using artificial intelligence (?) how to know, the strange thing is that for you they were jokes.

The AI is viral, it's just that, there have been advances, but it has been developing for a long time and a lot of time, but falling into situations like what will happen with betting or casinos, is perhaps the deepest part to find a solution, (speaking in importance) perhaps it requires one.

If your probability of losing is 99% and you only have 1% left, nothing will save you from losing, and in the opposite case, if your probability of winning is 99.99% and you lose with 0.01%, nothing It will prevent it, so, odds:1 AI:0 .

[uneng]

And do what?

Make the Casino go out of business and close down the casino so that we won’t have any Casinos to play on?
Have anyone understood or analysed any implications from such development?

All I can think right now are various questions which are not getting resolved but I’m having more questions one after another due ChatGPT stuff.

You pick anything these days from article writing to complex theories, from video processing to animations and what not GPT is there.

I only have one question to ask to community, whether this is worth it?

Now they are trying to compete the house edge as well, that’s literally complicated resolution which ain’t beneficial for the user experience in long run.

AI is for our times what Martingale was for early crypto years.

Back then people thought they discovered the perfect recipe to defeat the house through Martingale strategy plus automatic bets.

Now they follow the same logic by believing AIs are the magical formula to win safely on long term.

Well, let them think it's possible, until they see by their own eyes it's not possible at all...

[Wiwo]

AI is artificial intelligence, made by men, this is not a god or something, gambling companies must be aware of AI existence and I am sure that they know exactly what to do to counter any AI theft or cheating in games, because if AI could make you win games it's cheating, and since this is created by man, adjustments can be made, there will be some limitation to what this AI can do for humans, right now the discussion about how AI will affect studies and teaching in schools is still on the ground and this can affect companies too, this isn't what we want for human race.

That is exactly what I believe also, I am sure gambling operators already have a mechanism in place that will check and detect the activities of bots in their casinos, and we have to note that we already have some projects who are kicking against AI usage since we already are aware that there differences between human activities and that of bots.

-I know there may be some advanced AI bots that may be hard to be detected,  but that will not go unnoticed for long and their activities will be cut off sooner or later.

[DoublerHunter]

The AI is based on scripts, even if they are very difficult. I don`t think that it is possible to win the house in any situation, but the AI can help to increase the winning percent. May be if we`ll use correct money management we can get profit for some time, but for a long distance it is impossible. The bookies will ban such gamblers or decrease odds and bet limits. Anyway the casino willn`t give someone to win them.

Casino is a gambling business that is established to gain profit not loss, so the casino has all the smart systems to keep everything that makes the casino lose.
Like AI that has been designed to predict sports betting or something else, but casinos have smarter systems than AI created by someone.
Of course, casinos can never lose and don't want to be defeated in any way, because casinos are a profitable business, not a loss.

^ I never heard yet a project of AI that can predict the matket ahead of time, mostly AI's are good in having conversations not on predicting in the future. But however, if there is a design on that kind of AI it could be 50% not accurate when it comes to the result. AI models is not a good tool in predicting in gambling but I donnot agree that casino is profitable business for the owner, it is also based on luck on their side.

[Botnake]

In the long run, you can not win the house. The chance you can be lucky and win big to become rich will always be less than 1% while in long time, the house will always be the winner.

Just as it has been advised several times, gamble for just fun.

Even if you will use the most reliable AI projects, that won’t change the fact that in gambling, the house always take the winnings, and left the gamblers losing in the end. Besides, AI cannot guarantee someone to win in gambling, they only answer some fixed questions but cannot predict and give accurate answers especially in an uncertain gambling market. So AI is not reliable in the end, better to gamble using your own human mind than to expect help from AI.