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April 21, 2023, 04:24:00 PM |
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Are you trying to say that people can use AI to find bugs and problems in a casino to get a bug bounty? If that's what you are referring to then you need to understand that most bugs or problems in casinos that can be reported for an eligible bounty can only be identified by a human and not a robot since it doesn't have senses and can't see.
An AI model might only be able to find bugs and problems within a source code if provided to it. That is one of the things which it can do much faster than humans of course, he can read and evaluate thousands of lines in a matter of seconds, a human cannot do that.
Nope, what I meant about that is when people who gamble that didn't win when they are using AI (bots) so they decided to find bugs to exploit until the casino will find it. If they know how to build an AI to detect anomalies then it is possible. To be precise, an AI doesn't mean it is a robot, even ChatGPT is an AI chatbot. Anyway, it's up to them if they want to use an AI to find bugs when they want to earn money (incentives) by participating in a Bug bounty. Well, what's this? https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/self-supervised-bug-detection-and-repair-2/ and also this one https://ui.adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2021arXiv210512787A/abstract. When you read it, it may not be gambling related but it's all about an AI that find bugs and repair although not all work or things can be done by an AI and a human is required to finish it.
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April 21, 2023, 04:53:09 PM |
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AI is a good initiative in gaming after all if a gambler is playing against the house which is a computer, then the computer should be made to play against bots since those computers are configured to function primarily for that purpose, but the big question is, will casino allow the use of AI on their platforms the answer is no and to a large point we must know that any players who employ the services of artificial intelligence on games may get some form of restrictions or possible account ban.
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April 21, 2023, 05:24:00 PM |
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Are you trying to say that people can use AI to find bugs and problems in a casino to get a bug bounty? If that's what you are referring to then you need to understand that most bugs or problems in casinos that can be reported for an eligible bounty can only be identified by a human and not a robot since it doesn't have senses and can't see.
An AI model might only be able to find bugs and problems within a source code if provided to it. That is one of the things which it can do much faster than humans of course, he can read and evaluate thousands of lines in a matter of seconds, a human cannot do that.
There positive and negative effects while using AI every ware or anywhere and good example for this. Is like what you said it will helps to the gamblers to put their bet easier and faster and also AI can do a lot of things such read a thousands, millions or even billion of words in just a seconds or minutes and human can not do that. But We must know that AI can not determined all the bugs and problems of the casino that a human can do. Actually there are many examples of positive and negative things about AI, but the main thing here is that no matter how good AI is, only 50% can beat the house edge. Maybe many have tried this AI to make predictive decisions in sports betting and if they are telling the truth, they will definitely still think that AI cannot be fully relied on in terms of betting. But in other respects AI has 100% positive
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April 21, 2023, 07:26:35 PM |
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Are you trying to say that people can use AI to find bugs and problems in a casino to get a bug bounty? If that's what you are referring to then you need to understand that most bugs or problems in casinos that can be reported for an eligible bounty can only be identified by a human and not a robot since it doesn't have senses and can't see.
An AI model might only be able to find bugs and problems within a source code if provided to it. That is one of the things which it can do much faster than humans of course, he can read and evaluate thousands of lines in a matter of seconds, a human cannot do that.
There positive and negative effects while using AI every ware or anywhere and good example for this. Is like what you said it will helps to the gamblers to put their bet easier and faster and also AI can do a lot of things such read a thousands, millions or even billion of words in just a seconds or minutes and human can not do that. But We must know that AI can not determined all the bugs and problems of the casino that a human can do. In the times we are living in,it is a waste to use AI for a casino because you are not going to win or get any benefit, that is because it is not developed as we think, because when they tell us an AI we imagine that it is the solution for everything and it is not like that, it is struggling to go out to the public and it has been developing for a long time, but this does not happen Overnight, if it is starting and has progress but it is not to be trusted, we have many things and ideas when We play, but when we Receive additional help it is something that we take advantage of, but we do not have to trust an AI for a game.
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April 22, 2023, 05:45:38 AM |
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That's exactly the point, an AI can never do everything by itself and there is a need for a human for everything it does, at least for now, maybe in the future, the developments will improve and then an AI will not need humans intervention for any operations that it does, but we obviously need to wait for that to happen and can't use AI for things related to gambling for now. The bug-finding AIs are a far different concept than what can be used for a gambling website since they are mostly not vulnerable to bugs and errors that regular websites or platforms do since they do extra checks in order to leave no patches.
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April 22, 2023, 08:44:07 AM |
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AI will never have a role in being a great help to any gambler,as I said I was asking them which team from x event will win and they all answered the same,I don't have the knowledge to answer this but you can check these type of sites in order to find some info,something that a person can do as well themselves without any help.Maybe the only help here is that AI put down some of the best sites for you to check out without me going to search google for that. Casinos don't need to implement AI to battle another AI as there is no point in doing it,AI can't help in this section,just it cannot help physically in a job like a server administrator,it is just a virtual assistant and that's it. But maybe those rich gamblers who have more money can just adopt Al to do research or predictions in every ongoing sports match with the aim of making it easier for gamblers to have predictions to bet on. It's just that it definitely requires a large enough budget to be able to adopting artificial intelligence such as Al. If you use Al to win a game in a casino then I'm not too sure and believe it because casinos have their own way of working in a game so it will make it more difficult for anyone to cheat, but if you can use Al in a game maybe the casino can just do what I said before because anything can happen in the gambling industry.
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April 22, 2023, 08:29:24 PM |
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Yes, no doubt A.I is the new trend of internet marketing, affiliate marketing and online gambling as it has proven to do works initially meant for humans in the slightest few seconds, more faster and accurate. And as such making many people now lose their jobs, which is quite both good and bad, as with the use of A.I a user don't need to pay for voiceover anymore as we have got an A. I human-like tool that convert text into speech in few seconds, write a full blog post with A.I, generate a YouTube video, analyze a sport betting team and do lots of more others.
But in all this, usage of AI in gambling has proven to be ineffective since gambling games require some player's input that AI may not be able to meet up with, so even though AI has proven to be effective in some areas of operation but it will be a failure in the gambling market and casinos already have an anty bot features that will block AI access to some scripted games to avoid manipulation of the games result. There is no way IA can work effective in the gambling section. I am still wondering how people intend to us ai in the gambling section whether it will be use to predict matches or to book games on a casino. If AI had the potential to book games and have other features like that then it will really makes sense to us AI in gambling. this point you are really right because he cannot predict accurately or predict what any other thing can give you a prediction so making use of it is just like somebody who does not understand it right and the left so I believe it is not advisable to make use of it totally in gambling, if you want to understand gambling on make money to gambling you have to make use of your own personal prediction without depending on any machine Well that's what it's about, of course the AI is Advancing a lot, and it may be that some devs can give more benefits to the programming of an AI by introducing pure information that can be Calculated and specialized in predictions, which is something that is not very easy., if people begin to give the corresponding value to what an AI can do, they must be aware that it is not trustworthy, it is something that can be used as a tool to make calculations, among other things, whatever is Assigned to it will calculate, but thinking as we want is still a long way off.
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April 22, 2023, 08:46:23 PM |
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The hype about AI is becoming too much in this forum and most members tend to believe that artificial intelligence can be used to perform every task that humans could, failing to undermine what it takes to develop such not that could compete against human ability in any form, one of the industry I think Artificial intelligence will never be successful is gambling industry, the use of AI will not be taken likely and the casino will do everything posible to develop the means to always counter the possibility of artificial intelligence success on the casino.
And most are already taking steps to match up with current demand to secure the future of the platform unless for thos threads I have not seen AI making any major discussion on the concerns of AI involvement in gambling. .
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April 22, 2023, 08:55:38 PM |
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AI is a good initiative in gaming after all if a gambler is playing against the house which is a computer, then the computer should be made to play against bots since those computers are configured to function primarily for that purpose, but the big question is, will casino allow the use of AI on their platforms the answer is no and to a large point we must know that any players who employ the services of artificial intelligence on games may get some form of restrictions or possible account ban.
^They know this because casinos generate significant revenue from their games, and if players are able to consistently win, it could lead to a decrease in profits for the casino which is I think, that is the reason they will have a patch. That patch is to counterpart those players who have been consistently winning and even with the most sophisticated AI algorithms, there are no guarantees of success. Casinos also have the ability to adjust their strategies and defenses as necessary, making it challenging for any one strategy to consistently win in the long term. Do you think they are not wise than us? Remember those casinos are here to make money and we are just using them to have fun.
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April 22, 2023, 09:17:52 PM |
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The hype about AI is becoming too much in this forum and most members tend to believe that artificial intelligence can be used to perform every task that humans could, failing to undermine what it takes to develop such not that could compete against human ability in any form, one of the industry I think Artificial intelligence will never be successful is gambling industry, the use of AI will not be taken likely and the casino will do everything posible to develop the means to always counter the possibility of artificial intelligence success on the casino.
And most are already taking steps to match up with current demand to secure the future of the platform unless for thos threads I have not seen AI making any major discussion on the concerns of AI involvement in gambling. .
it's okay this is only temporary, because hype is always excessive. to be honest, I agree with your statement that maybe we think too much about AI being able to beat the house edge in the future, while gambling always has a way so that it can't be cheated, maybe even starting to hype AI, even gambling has prepared everything before AI develops even further. so it's very unlikely that the AI can beat the house. btw, AI is also needed by casinos to be used in chatrooms on gambling which can help the support team to save a bit of time.
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The hype about AI is becoming too much in this forum and most members tend to believe that artificial intelligence can be used to perform every task that humans could, failing to undermine what it takes to develop such not that could compete against human ability in any form, one of the industry I think Artificial intelligence will never be successful is gambling industry, the use of AI will not be taken likely and the casino will do everything posible to develop the means to always counter the possibility of artificial intelligence success on the casino.
And most are already taking steps to match up with current demand to secure the future of the platform unless for thos threads I have not seen AI making any major discussion on the concerns of AI involvement in gambling. .
it's okay this is only temporary because the hype is always excessive. to be honest, I agree with your statement that maybe we think too much about AI being able to beat the house edge in the future, while gambling always has a way so that it can't be cheated, maybe even starting to hype AI, even gambling has prepared everything before AI develops even further. so it's very unlikely that the AI can beat the house. btw, AI is also needed by casinos to be used in chatrooms on gambling which can help the support team to save a bit of time. The unnnassery hype and free promotions that AI is getting around here so we need to give AI development some time to truly prove its worth in competing or assisting human efforts to accomplish tasks with less effort. But again gambling industry will be a hard nut to crack and artificial intelligence may not be successful in this industry since casinos already have developed systems to checkmate bot activities and dictation.
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We are seeing more and more projects that are almost 100% built on Artificial Intelligence, like ChatGPT. Here are a few experiments that are linked between ChatGPT and gambling.... ... Do you think AI will be more successful to get a working gambling strategy to win the house... and if they do, what will be the impact on casinos?
Beat the Casino - impossible . It is unlikely that AI will discover new, hitherto unseen laws of mathematics or probability theory. Beat the Bookmaker - very easy. There are many professional players, and even simple algorithms (not AI), that do it with ease. The problem is in the non-payment of winnings and the restriction of profitable players. So AI for gambling - this is interesting in theory, but completely meaningless for practical use.
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AI is a good initiative in gaming after all if a gambler is playing against the house which is a computer, then the computer should be made to play against bots since those computers are configured to function primarily for that purpose, but the big question is, will casino allow the use of AI on their platforms the answer is no and to a large point we must know that any players who employ the services of artificial intelligence on games may get some form of restrictions or possible account ban.
^They know this because casinos generate significant revenue from their games, and if players are able to consistently win, it could lead to a decrease in profits for the casino which is I think, that is the reason they will have a patch. That patch is to counterpart those players who have been consistently winning and even with the most sophisticated AI algorithms, there are no guarantees of success. Casinos also have the ability to adjust their strategies and defenses as necessary, making it challenging for any one strategy to consistently win in the long term. Do you think they are not wise than us? Remember those casinos are here to make money and we are just using them to have fun. If the casino knows that several players can get wins consistently, the casino will suspect whether the player wins by cheating or using bots or is it just luck. But considering that the current AI algorithm cannot work optimally, for example, the casino will suspect that the account has won because of player fraud. But if AI has become more sophisticated than it is today and managed to beat the casino for some time, the casino will not allow it to win again. The casino will do something to prevent players from being able to win using AI. And it's natural for casinos to do that so their gambling business can keep running and the casinos can still make a profit.
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April 23, 2023, 09:57:31 AM |
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AI is a good initiative in gaming after all if a gambler is playing against the house which is a computer, then the computer should be made to play against bots since those computers are configured to function primarily for that purpose, but the big question is, will casino allow the use of AI on their platforms the answer is no and to a large point we must know that any players who employ the services of artificial intelligence on games may get some form of restrictions or possible account ban.
^They know this because casinos generate significant revenue from their games, and if players are able to consistently win, it could lead to a decrease in profits for the casino which is I think, that is the reason they will have a patch. That patch is to counterpart those players who have been consistently winning and even with the most sophisticated AI algorithms, there are no guarantees of success. Casinos also have the ability to adjust their strategies and defenses as necessary, making it challenging for any one strategy to consistently win in the long term. Do you think they are not wise than us? Remember those casinos are here to make money and we are just using them to have fun. If the casino knows that several players can get wins consistently, the casino will suspect whether the player wins by cheating or using bots or is it just luck. But considering that the current AI algorithm cannot work optimally, for example, the casino will suspect that the account has won because of player fraud. But if AI has become more sophisticated than it is today and managed to beat the casino for some time, the casino will not allow it to win again. The casino will do something to prevent players from being able to win using AI. And it's natural for casinos to do that so their gambling business can keep running and the casinos can still make a profit. Actually, casinos from now on are already preparing to counteract AI behavior that can be used in gambling, such as for example someone wins in a row and the system detects that there is abnormal behavior in the gambler's account and the system will tell the security team to freeze customer accounts and verify all bets. There is no chance that can beat the casino even though AI really can be relied on.
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April 23, 2023, 10:12:42 AM |
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But if AI has become more sophisticated than it is today and managed to beat the casino for some time, the casino will not allow it to win again. The casino will do something to prevent players from being able to win using AI. And it's natural for casinos to do that so their gambling business can keep running and the casinos can still make a profit.
I don't think that can any day be possible that an A.I will win the house, because what A.I does is to work on already existing data, and gambling casinos has none, since every win is a random selection. But the only area A.I can equally have an edge is in "Sportbetting" whereby all data about a team's performance are stored online, and as such can be accessible by the A.I for analysis and then come up with a possible outcome that can be a 50% possible chance.
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April 23, 2023, 11:43:38 AM |
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AI is a good initiative in gaming after all if a gambler is playing against the house which is a computer, then the computer should be made to play against bots since those computers are configured to function primarily for that purpose, but the big question is, will casino allow the use of AI on their platforms the answer is no and to a large point we must know that any players who employ the services of artificial intelligence on games may get some form of restrictions or possible account ban.
^They know this because casinos generate significant revenue from their games, and if players are able to consistently win, it could lead to a decrease in profits for the casino which is I think, that is the reason they will have a patch. That patch is to counterpart those players who have been consistently winning and even with the most sophisticated AI algorithms, there are no guarantees of success. Casinos also have the ability to adjust their strategies and defenses as necessary, making it challenging for any one strategy to consistently win in the long term. Do you think they are not wise than us? Remember those casinos are here to make money and we are just using them to have fun. If the casino knows that several players can get wins consistently, the casino will suspect whether the player wins by cheating or using bots or is it just luck. But considering that the current AI algorithm cannot work optimally, for example, the casino will suspect that the account has won because of player fraud. But if AI has become more sophisticated than it is today and managed to beat the casino for some time, the casino will not allow it to win again. The casino will do something to prevent players from being able to win using AI. And it's natural for casinos to do that so their gambling business can keep running and the casinos can still make a profit. Actually, casinos from now on are already preparing to counteract AI behavior that can be used in gambling, such as for example someone wins in a row and the system detects that there is abnormal behavior in the gambler's account and the system will tell the security team to freeze customer accounts and verify all bets. There is no chance that can beat the casino even though AI really can be relied on. They already anticipated this kind of scenario in gambling as they wanted to remain unbeaten than make their casino lose. In the case that AI is better than them they will create another to stop it. Therefore, I was expecting such a developing trend to see someday. If might not happen, I will think that casinos will ban the use of AI to play on their platform. But until now, we never hear in public that someone who uses AI in gambling outplays casinos. Well, we don't want to hear also that the use if this stuff is a form of cheating...not for now, otherwise.
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April 24, 2023, 09:48:48 AM |
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Actually, casinos from now on are already preparing to counteract AI behavior that can be used in gambling, such as for example someone wins in a row and the system detects that there is abnormal behavior in the gambler's account and the system will tell the security team to freeze customer accounts and verify all bets. There is no chance that can beat the casino even though AI really can be relied on. The casino has tried to detect abnormal behavior on gamblers' accounts and will investigate their accounts to find more detailed data. And if the casino finds that it turns out that the gambler is cheating, the casino will immediately give a notification and maybe block the gambler's account. And if gamblers also use AI to win bets, the casino will know about it because all the records of its members will be easily obtained. And I think casinos will also implement AI to block the use of AI by gamblers. I don't think that can any day be possible that an A.I will win the house, because what A.I does is to work on already existing data, and gambling casinos has none, since every win is a random selection. But the only area A.I can equally have an edge is in "Sportbetting" whereby all data about a team's performance are stored online, and as such can be accessible by the A.I for analysis and then come up with a possible outcome that can be a 50% possible chance.
Maybe that's the case because, with the growth of AI technology, AI can help gamblers to win games. But of course, the casino will not let this happen because it wants to protect its business from gambling cheating. And even though there is AI that helps gamblers analyze the advantages of each team and provides the data to gamblers, it will not make gamblers able to win easily in a match. Let's just wait for AI technology's development in gambling so that we know whether using AI is a new way to win gambling games or if we have to wait until AI technology develops even better.
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April 24, 2023, 10:16:06 AM |
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Actually, casinos from now on are already preparing to counteract AI behavior that can be used in gambling, such as for example someone wins in a row and the system detects that there is abnormal behavior in the gambler's account and the system will tell the security team to freeze customer accounts and verify all bets. There is no chance that can beat the casino even though AI really can be relied on.
I do not know if you call this a good aspect of AI from the gamblers point of view. However if this usage of AI is true then the gambling casino are definitely getting benefit from this AI technology. The AI will detect the continuous wining streak of the gamblers and put his under investigations, Nice move., but will the AI notices the continuous loss of gambler and also put a restriction on gambling for that player so that he may not lose more money. Will the gambling casino will use AI in this way also or they only care about their business and money ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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April 24, 2023, 08:05:21 PM |
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They already anticipated this kind of scenario in gambling as they wanted to remain unbeaten than make their casino lose. In the case that AI is better than them they will create another to stop it. Therefore, I was expecting such a developing trend to see someday. If might not happen, I will think that casinos will ban the use of AI to play on their platform. But until now, we never hear in public that someone who uses AI in gambling outplays casinos. Well, we don't want to hear also that the use if this stuff is a form of cheating...not for now, otherwise.
If AI can be used to beat the casinos then it is easy to guess AI can also be used by the casinos to improve the odds they give and to possibly detect customers which could be making use of AI to try to beat them, so AI is not going to be the end of the gambling industry or any other industry by the way, as the casinos themselves are the ones that have the most historical data about sports, and with that data the AI of a casino should be better than any AI created by a gambler.
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AI is a good initiative in gaming after all if a gambler is playing against the house which is a computer, then the computer should be made to play against bots since those computers are configured to function primarily for that purpose, but the big question is, will casino allow the use of AI on their platforms the answer is no and to a large point we must know that any players who employ the services of artificial intelligence on games may get some form of restrictions or possible account ban.
^They know this because casinos generate significant revenue from their games, and if players are able to consistently win, it could lead to a decrease in profits for the casino which is I think, that is the reason they will have a patch. That patch is to counterpart those players who have been consistently winning and even with the most sophisticated AI algorithms, there are no guarantees of success. Casinos also have the ability to adjust their strategies and defenses as necessary, making it challenging for any one strategy to consistently win in the long term. Do you think they are not wise than us? Remember those casinos are here to make money and we are just using them to have fun. If the casino knows that several players can get wins consistently, the casino will suspect whether the player wins by cheating or using bots or is it just luck. But considering that the current AI algorithm cannot work optimally, for example, the casino will suspect that the account has won because of player fraud. But if AI has become more sophisticated than it is today and managed to beat the casino for some time, the casino will not allow it to win again. The casino will do something to prevent players from being able to win using AI. And it's natural for casinos to do that so their gambling business can keep running and the casinos can still make a profit. Actually, casinos from now on are already preparing to counteract AI behavior that can be used in gambling, such as for example someone wins in a row and the system detects that there is abnormal behavior in the gambler's account and the system will tell the security team to freeze customer accounts and verify all bets. There is no chance that can beat the casino even though AI really can be relied on. They already anticipated this kind of scenario in gambling as they wanted to remain unbeaten than make their casino lose. In the case that AI is better than them they will create another to stop it. Therefore, I was expecting such a developing trend to see someday. If might not happen, I will think that casinos will ban the use of AI to play on their platform. But until now, we never hear in public that someone who uses AI in gambling outplays casinos. Well, we don't want to hear also that the use if this stuff is a form of cheating...not for now, otherwise. There's no way on beating the house because if there would be some chances or possibility or any tool that it would be successfully able to do so then it would be the end of this industry. Lots of gambling places or businesses would shut down due to bankruptcy or would really be having no revenue just because people or gambler do really able to milk them out. This is why its really that impossible that it would really be having this way. AI is something isnt build for this kind of purpose, there are really just that people who are really that mindful towards about getting advantage on something on where they could make some money. There's no way on beating up the house because it would really be just creating that kind of impression which is something that cant really be that possible.
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