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June 13, 2023, 04:32:04 AM
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Since AI is growing gradually, it might take some time for people to see the light in AI and try to follow it. It is already known that AI might be a big problem to us in the nearest tears to come and we need to limit the kind of power we give to artificial intelligence to execute some actions for us.
Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?

Humans with brains and efficiency in their work will never get replaced by AI or anything, if you know how to get things done, you don't need to worry because AI is not coming for you and you will always have one way or another to find some work because you are useful.

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June 17, 2023, 07:29:38 PM
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Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?

Humans with brains and efficiency in their work will never get replaced by AI or anything, if you know how to get things done, you don't need to worry because AI is not coming for you and you will always have one way or another to find some work because you are useful.
You`re right a lot, but there is one moment that makes me sure that the AI don`t ready to win humans yet. The AI works as the human says. And it can`t improvise. So in the standard situation the AI wins 100% but when you have to decide fast and the decision must surprise your opponent - the AI can`t be better than human. At least nowadays.

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June 17, 2023, 07:40:03 PM
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Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?

Humans with brains and efficiency in their work will never get replaced by AI or anything, if you know how to get things done, you don't need to worry because AI is not coming for you and you will always have one way or another to find some work because you are useful.
You`re right a lot, but there is one moment that makes me sure that the AI don`t ready to win humans yet. The AI works as the human says. And it can`t improvise. So in the standard situation the AI wins 100% but when you have to decide fast and the decision must surprise your opponent - the AI can`t be better than human. At least nowadays.
The area of improvising is what and where humans will continue to take the lead regardless of whether the entire world is overtaken by Ai's, human beings are unique in nature, and though something can be built to look, act and behave like human, the truth remains that Ai will always be Ai and humans will always be humans, everything God created on His own is perfect and unique in their ways, and can't be replicated, no matter how hard we try.

For example, an Ai will always require an update to it's software to change and behave in a new way, and when that behavior pattern needs to change, an update to it's software will need to be done again, but for humans, this ability is just natural, as it is very possible for a man to put up different behaviors in a single day, this ability can give humans the ability to remain the best in gambling, even with the presents of Ai's every where.

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June 17, 2023, 07:42:34 PM
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Since AI is growing gradually, it might take some time for people to see the light in AI and try to follow it. It is already known that AI might be a big problem to us in the nearest tears to come and we need to limit the kind of power we give to artificial intelligence to execute some actions for us.
Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?
People are promoting AI in a way that is a little bit further away from reality. Employees who were useless but the company had no other option to retain them. Now AI has come to relieve the company from such difficulties. Those who are smart enough are arranging their new jobs by using this AI, because it requires professional AI experts to do the best job using AI. So those who can change themselves with time, no one can take away their jobs.

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June 17, 2023, 07:52:38 PM
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We are seeing more and more projects that are almost 100% built on Artificial Intelligence, like ChatGPT. Here are a few experiments that are linked between ChatGPT and gambling....

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Do you think AI will be more successful to get a working gambling strategy to win the house... and if they do, what will be the impact on casinos?


Definitely Bots will become more and more widespread in the field of Gambling. Perhaps we will go back to the fact that casinos will issue betting permits only when they personally appear at the betting sites or casinos.
The trouble is that you can't imagine how much the introduction of ChatGPT and cheating with it can go because we don't know how smart this Bot is. Yes, we know that he studied on Reddit and open Internet resources, but we cannot imagine how his development will go further.
A crisis may come soon. Bots are already undergoing verification on Binance, write posts here on the forum.
And there is still no regulation.

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June 18, 2023, 02:57:41 PM
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The area of improvising is what and where humans will continue to take the lead regardless of whether the entire world is overtaken by Ai's, human beings are unique in nature, and though something can be built to look, act and behave like human, the truth remains that Ai will always be Ai and humans will always be humans, everything God created on His own is perfect and unique in their ways, and can't be replicated, no matter how hard we try.

For example, an Ai will always require an update to it's software to change and behave in a new way, and when that behavior pattern needs to change, an update to it's software will need to be done again, but for humans, this ability is just natural, as it is very possible for a man to put up different behaviors in a single day, this ability can give humans the ability to remain the best in gambling, even with the presents of Ai's every where.
Unquestionably, human adaptability is unparalleled. Our survival is intrinsically tied to our ability to adjust to life' rapid changes, embodied in a gambler' bluff in a high-stakes game. However, the claim that all divine creations are impeccable and uncloneable seems an oversimplification. Life is a trial-and-error sequence. If all were perfect, would progress be necessary?

AI, agreed, requires updates for behavioral shifts. But doesnt this metaphorically echo humans' self-enhancement through experiences? About forums like these, they provide a critical platform for discourse. But are we fully exploiting them or merely reinforcing the echo chamber?

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June 18, 2023, 03:43:20 PM
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Since AI is growing gradually, it might take some time for people to see the light in AI and try to follow it. It is already known that AI might be a big problem to us in the nearest tears to come and we need to limit the kind of power we give to artificial intelligence to execute some actions for us.
Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?
People are promoting AI in a way that is a little bit further away from reality. Employees who were useless but the company had no other option to retain them. Now AI has come to relieve the company from such difficulties. Those who are smart enough are arranging their new jobs by using this AI, because it requires professional AI experts to do the best job using AI. So those who can change themselves with time, no one can take away their jobs.
That means employees must be able to improve their quality if they still want to work in that company. Only employees with good skills will be retained by the company, while others will be replaced by AI which can reduce employee salary costs.

But if it's in a casino, it could be tough competition where the casino won't let gamblers who use AI win time and time again. The casino will use other AI to win from the gambler's AI.

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June 18, 2023, 04:09:16 PM
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Since AI is growing gradually, it might take some time for people to see the light in AI and try to follow it. It is already known that AI might be a big problem to us in the nearest tears to come and we need to limit the kind of power we give to artificial intelligence to execute some actions for us.
Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?
People are promoting AI in a way that is a little bit further away from reality. Employees who were useless but the company had no other option to retain them. Now AI has come to relieve the company from such difficulties. Those who are smart enough are arranging their new jobs by using this AI, because it requires professional AI experts to do the best job using AI. So those who can change themselves with time, no one can take away their jobs.
Well in very advantage there is also a disadvantage, as AI is making work a bit less stressful for people so in same way its actually reliefing some folks of their actual duty due to their incompetence in handling their jobs but the set of people actually affected in this actually beg to think that AI is actually doing them bad by taking their jobs away from them.
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June 18, 2023, 04:38:17 PM
 #369

Since AI is growing gradually, it might take some time for people to see the light in AI and try to follow it. It is already known that AI might be a big problem to us in the nearest tears to come and we need to limit the kind of power we give to artificial intelligence to execute some actions for us.
Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?
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Well in very advantage there is also a disadvantage, as AI is making work a bit less stressful for people so in same way its actually reliefing some folks of their actual duty due to their incompetence in handling their jobs but the set of people actually affected in this actually beg to think that AI is actually doing them bad by taking their jobs away from them.
AI will no longer take away everyone's jobs, AI will help companies reduce the number of inactive employees by doing that work through AI. Using AI properly requires expertise.

As a result, AI is also creating jobs for many more people, and those who can use AI properly can take advantage of that opportunity. So everything has two sides, good and bad. The actual results will depend on who is using it in what way.

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June 18, 2023, 04:48:59 PM
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Since AI is growing gradually, it might take some time for people to see the light in AI and try to follow it. It is already known that AI might be a big problem to us in the nearest tears to come and we need to limit the kind of power we give to artificial intelligence to execute some actions for us.
Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?
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Well in very advantage there is also a disadvantage, as AI is making work a bit less stressful for people so in same way its actually reliefing some folks of their actual duty due to their incompetence in handling their jobs but the set of people actually affected in this actually beg to think that AI is actually doing them bad by taking their jobs away from them.
AI will no longer take away everyone's jobs, AI will help companies reduce the number of inactive employees by doing that work through AI. Using AI properly requires expertise.

As a result, AI is also creating jobs for many more people, and those who can use AI properly can take advantage of that opportunity. So everything has two sides, good and bad. The actual results will depend on who is using it in what way.
I completely agree with you. It is certain that there are jobs that will be replaced by AI. It will all depends on the people or company who will be using it on how they will utilize our current technology. For now as we are growing in a world that is currently developing AI, there are jobs that are borned but is very limited, we can see jobs in like analyzing if it is a job that AI did based on output and prompt engineers who masters at giving prompts or teaching AI. Casinos should be ready when AI as it's full blown, I'm certain that it will be used against them.
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June 18, 2023, 06:01:46 PM
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I completely agree with you. It is certain that there are jobs that will be replaced by AI. It will all depends on the people or company who will be using it on how they will utilize our current technology. For now as we are growing in a world that is currently developing AI, there are jobs that are borned but is very limited, we can see jobs in like analyzing if it is a job that AI did based on output and prompt engineers who masters at giving prompts or teaching AI. Casinos should be ready when AI as it's full blown, I'm certain that it will be used against them.
As much as AI has established its position in the market, more people are creating hype and creating fear among normal people. As technology advances, we have to embrace it, because you can't go against technology in today's world. It is easy to imagine that engineers who will transform themselves with time will again occupy a strong position in the job sector in the new world.

And even if AI starts to be used in gambling, at the end of the day it will go against gamblers, so gamblers will not have any advantage here.

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June 18, 2023, 06:03:31 PM
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I completely agree with you. It is certain that there are jobs that will be replaced by AI. It will all depends on the people or company who will be using it on how they will utilize our current technology. For now as we are growing in a world that is currently developing AI, there are jobs that are borned but is very limited, we can see jobs in like analyzing if it is a job that AI did based on output and prompt engineers who masters at giving prompts or teaching AI. Casinos should be ready when AI as it's full blown, I'm certain that it will be used against them.
But HOW ai would be used against the casinos? Beating the house would mean it would beat the mathematics behind house edge itself. The edge is designed to make money,
Slots should be obvious that you can't "win" them by counting. And even with backjack, from what i know there are already systems in place to prevent cad counting teams.

If you are talking about sports betting, if majority of people started winning via bots, soon they wouldn't be even worth the risk to play as winnings would be so low.
If you are talking about the poker games, players would be scamming each other, not the house.

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June 19, 2023, 07:00:41 AM
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Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?
People are promoting AI in a way that is a little bit further away from reality. Employees who were useless but the company had no other option to retain them. Now AI has come to relieve the company from such difficulties. Those who are smart enough are arranging their new jobs by using this AI, because it requires professional AI experts to do the best job using AI. So those who can change themselves with time, no one can take away their jobs.
That is the exact point, if you don't want an AI to replace you, you need to start utilizing an AI to improve your work and what you do so that you are taken as a good and responsible worker who doesn't deserve to be replaced because he isn't up to the task. AI is just an invention by humans for humans, it is not actually created so that it can replace humans in workplaces, but if you can't make good use of it, you will be considered outdated.

I don't know why people are dragging AI into gambling for no reason, it is not something created for people to be used for their gambling activities, if a platform utilizes the technology for the betterment of their services, that's a different thing, but AI is not something to be used for gambling as a gambler.

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June 19, 2023, 01:40:40 PM
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I don't think AI can beat the house, it's just a program and AFAIK casinos don't allow their gamblers to use such robots or bots, so AI is fall in this category. If you're really on AI to beat the house and you can make an easy money, you're wrong because gambling is full of luck. If the result isn't like your expectation, you will be angry and you're want to recover your losses, in the end you will lose all of your money.
AI can beat casinos, especially if casinos haven't implemented AI for their business, so there is an opportunity for gamblers to win by using AI. But if the casino has implemented AI in its business, it will be difficult for gamblers to win the game because the casino will not let the gamblers win easily using AI. And the casinos will be able to spot gamblers using AI and might even penalize them so that those gamblers can't get big wins. We have to rethink if the casino has used AI to restrain or not let the gamblers win. No matter what, the casino will not let gamblers take their money from the casino.
I also think AI casinos will hinder big wins because the advanced capabilities of AI are definitely changing the online gaming world for the better. This technology makes website performance more efficient and more secure than ever before. But remember, AI can never replace human intelligence. So, if you think human support at the best online casinos is going anywhere, think twice. Casino games depend on luck and do not help gamblers to win games.
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June 20, 2023, 01:43:53 PM
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Artificial Intelligence will replace lazy and useless humans who can't do their work with perfection or even if they do it, they take way more time than required for a specific task, if companies can get work done more efficiently that too at a less price with an AI model, why would they pay a higher amount to a human that will waste the money and the time as well?

Humans with brains and efficiency in their work will never get replaced by AI or anything, if you know how to get things done, you don't need to worry because AI is not coming for you and you will always have one way or another to find some work because you are useful.
You`re right a lot, but there is one moment that makes me sure that the AI don`t ready to win humans yet. The AI works as the human says. And it can`t improvise. So in the standard situation the AI wins 100% but when you have to decide fast and the decision must surprise your opponent - the AI can`t be better than human. At least nowadays.
The area of improvising is what and where humans will continue to take the lead regardless of whether the entire world is overtaken by Ai's, human beings are unique in nature, and though something can be built to look, act and behave like human, the truth remains that Ai will always be Ai and humans will always be humans, everything God created on His own is perfect and unique in their ways, and can't be replicated, no matter how hard we try.

For example, an Ai will always require an update to it's software to change and behave in a new way, and when that behavior pattern needs to change, an update to it's software will need to be done again, but for humans, this ability is just natural, as it is very possible for a man to put up different behaviors in a single day, this ability can give humans the ability to remain the best in gambling, even with the presents of Ai's every where.
In the games where 2 or more players makes their turns - and one of them(at least) is AI - the AI can lose due to the human improvisation. But in the sport bets the AI will work with the statistics and i sure that AI will has winrate higher than a human can has. May be in live bets the gambler can understand that the game is going not like the statistics says.
So in some situations we can use AI, but sometimes the gambler still better.

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June 22, 2023, 08:24:29 AM
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AI will no longer take away everyone's jobs, AI will help companies reduce the number of inactive employees by doing that work through AI. Using AI properly requires expertise.

As a result, AI is also creating jobs for many more people, and those who can use AI properly can take advantage of that opportunity. So everything has two sides, good and bad. The actual results will depend on who is using it in what way.
You can say this for now because you still have your job but you will regret it once you found out that you got lay off because of these AI's. AI are still starting and there are more to come from them so it would be better if we shouldn't be confident for a while but if they can do a bad thing, maybe they can also do some great things like they can now accurately predict in terms of betting. Just use them and make more money than the job that you lost.

I think AI isn't that hard to use especially for those who are computer literate or techy person but they can also become more user-friendly later on because their goal is to be accessed by many people and to become popular.

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June 22, 2023, 08:47:30 AM
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I don't think AI can beat the house, it's just a program and AFAIK casinos don't allow their gamblers to use such robots or bots, so AI is fall in this category. If you're really on AI to beat the house and you can make an easy money, you're wrong because gambling is full of luck. If the result isn't like your expectation, you will be angry and you're want to recover your losses, in the end you will lose all of your money.

I think the same, the luck based aspect of gambling will make it impossible for the AI to create winning strategies against the casino. The only real chance the AI has is to find imperfections in the games that they could exploit. The problem is that the casino will likely find it out quickly and correct any mistakes in their games. The casino relies on making money and should realize quickly if a few gamblers always win and take large winnings out of the casino. It shouldn't take long for the casino to identify AI as the programs behind the winners and try to ban them. The casino needs money to operate and pay the bills, without it they wouldn't exist. That's why we can't have all gamblers use AI to beat the casino.

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June 22, 2023, 12:43:30 PM
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I also think AI casinos will hinder big wins because the advanced capabilities of AI are definitely changing the online gaming world for the better. This technology makes website performance more efficient and more secure than ever before. But remember, AI can never replace human intelligence. So, if you think human support at the best online casinos is going anywhere, think twice. Casino games depend on luck and do not help gamblers to win games.
Yes, casinos will hinder gamblers who want to get big wins in various ways, especially gamblers who use AI. Casinos don't want to lose too much from gamblers using AI, and that may be the reason for casinos use AI to keep those gamblers at bay. AI technology will continue to develop, making casinos aware of it and implementing better security or systems so they can continue to run their business. And yes, we should be careful if the casino has started implementing AI in its system because our chances of winning can be reduced, especially with the presence of AI.

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June 22, 2023, 05:49:46 PM
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I don't think AI can beat the house, it's just a program and AFAIK casinos don't allow their gamblers to use such robots or bots, so AI is fall in this category. If you're really on AI to beat the house and you can make an easy money, you're wrong because gambling is full of luck. If the result isn't like your expectation, you will be angry and you're want to recover your losses, in the end you will lose all of your money.
I think the same, the luck based aspect of gambling will make it impossible for the AI to create winning strategies against the casino. The only real chance the AI has is to find imperfections in the games that they could exploit. The problem is that the casino will likely find it out quickly and correct any mistakes in their games. The casino relies on making money and should realize quickly if a few gamblers always win and take large winnings out of the casino. It shouldn't take long for the casino to identify AI as the programs behind the winners and try to ban them. The casino needs money to operate and pay the bills, without it they wouldn't exist. That's why we can't have all gamblers use AI to beat the casino.
I think it is not just the luck part, it's the fact that house has the advantage of "house edge" which means that you do not earn as much as you lose on the same bet, so you need to be always one ahead in order to be winning. I know that AI could at least remove the emotions so it could have "better" results, but just because it's better than me, doesn't mean it will be a profit.

Like I always say, a gambler could have a session where they win, a day, a week, or even a month, but as long as you keep on gambling there is no way that you would ever be able to make a profit on the long run. This won't change with AI, it's going to be pretty obvious that people will end up losing money over course of long periods and there is no way around it.

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June 22, 2023, 07:56:50 PM
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I also think AI casinos will hinder big wins because the advanced capabilities of AI are definitely changing the online gaming world for the better. This technology makes website performance more efficient and more secure than ever before. But remember, AI can never replace human intelligence. So, if you think human support at the best online casinos is going anywhere, think twice. Casino games depend on luck and do not help gamblers to win games.
Yes, casinos will hinder gamblers who want to get big wins in various ways, especially gamblers who use AI. Casinos don't want to lose too much from gamblers using AI, and that may be the reason for casinos use AI to keep those gamblers at bay. AI technology will continue to develop, making casinos aware of it and implementing better security or systems so they can continue to run their business. And yes, we should be careful if the casino has started implementing AI in its system because our chances of winning can be reduced, especially with the presence of AI.
Don't misunderstand what I'm about to say.
All I know so far is that as long as the gambler has a way to gain an advantage or beat the casino, I think the casino will have a way to counteract all of those ways and AI is one of them.
I think the casino has used AI for security I'm not sure if it will affect the winnings we will get.
Because the casino uses this AI only for system security, it will not affect the winning luck that we will get, that is much different.

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