A costly gambling mistake

[Cling18]

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

I've been gambling in an online website for some time already, and TBH, I didn't bother to visit their Terms and Conditions, or FAQ's whatever it is. Even I'm a newbie, I didn't visit or read this one, and I'm pretty sure that the newbies are doing the same.

This quote isn't applied only for the newbies, but also for the gamblers who are gambling on their website for a long time. I mean I'm pretty sure that there are some long time gamblers out there who didn't even have a time to read their rules and regulations. What gamblers are thinking more is the potential profits that they can make rather than the security or the TOS of the website, and when the worst thing happens with them, they will post a scam accusation here, or they will rant somewhere else, and will share their story.

At the end of the day, this quote still isn't helpful for newbies if they don't know how to control themselves whenever they're gambling.

Most gamblers don't read it anyway. Of course it's advised to read all the rules before depositing money, but realistically it's not feasible for most gamblers to read a long text of terms and services on every platforms they have an account. I think an alternative solution would be to search directly for key points in particular inside the rules, especially regards countries' restrictions, number of accounts per IP, VPN usage, and account inactivity.

That's what I always do before agreeing to the casino's tos upon registration. It will take time to read long terms of services texts so it will be better to go on straight to the key points because most of their context only pertains to common rules that we are already aware of. Just focus on the usual questions that we want to be answered or we can check their FAQS for easier research. What important are we know what to follow and we know what we shouldn't do so our whole gambling experience will not be ruined.

[jrrsparkles]

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

Every legit casino will have a check box for terms and conditions or a note by clicking you accept all the terms and conditions when registeration itself so its our ignorance and casinos should not be blamed for such things.

I would like to mention one of the costliest mistake which can happen to anyone by unknowingly which is clicked the max wrongly instead of bet which will bet whatever amount left in our wallet and if we lose that bet then its a huge loss.

[ChiBitCTy]

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

Yeah I’ve noticed a good bit of this going on as well. Of course reading the FAQs is an important rule for anyone joining an online casino, but do some basic google searching as well. Check and see how the reputation of the Casino is. If there’s issues and nonsense for newbies to have to deal with, then you’ll most likely see that all over google on forums and what not talking about it. Problem is people are lazy and rarely take the time to do things like this.

[uneng]

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

I've been gambling in an online website for some time already, and TBH, I didn't bother to visit their Terms and Conditions, or FAQ's whatever it is. Even I'm a newbie, I didn't visit or read this one, and I'm pretty sure that the newbies are doing the same.

This quote isn't applied only for the newbies, but also for the gamblers who are gambling on their website for a long time. I mean I'm pretty sure that there are some long time gamblers out there who didn't even have a time to read their rules and regulations. What gamblers are thinking more is the potential profits that they can make rather than the security or the TOS of the website, and when the worst thing happens with them, they will post a scam accusation here, or they will rant somewhere else, and will share their story.

At the end of the day, this quote still isn't helpful for newbies if they don't know how to control themselves whenever they're gambling.

Most gamblers don't read it anyway. Of course it's advised to read all the rules before depositing money, but realistically it's not feasible for most gamblers to read a long text of terms and services on every platforms they have an account. I think an alternative solution would be to search directly for key points in particular inside the rules, especially regards countries' restrictions, number of accounts per IP, VPN usage, and account inactivity.

That's what I always do before agreeing to the casino's tos upon registration. It will take time to read long terms of services texts so it will be better to go on straight to the key points because most of their context only pertains to common rules that we are already aware of. Just focus on the usual questions that we want to be answered or we can check their FAQS for easier research. What important are we know what to follow and we know what we shouldn't do so our whole gambling experience will not be ruined.

Sometimes I simply go to the google and search for the rule regards a casino in particular I'm interested and doubtful about. For an example: does casino x accept users from country y? Does casino x allow users to use VPN? Then different sites will appear, including the official page of the casino I'm looking for and also bitcointalk forum threads. Next time I'm going to try doing this through ChatGPT.

[Silberman]

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

But casinos do in fact do that, if you want to create an account at any casino you are going to find out that when you are introducing your username and your password you will see a checkbox which says that you need to accept their TOS before registering, and in some of them you cannot even check that box until you scroll past all the text, so casinos actually encourage their gamblers to read their TOS, it is just that people refuse to do it.

[Casdinyard]

I haven't seen anyone complain about not reading the FAQs and missing out on a lot of things that were supposed to be put in plain sight, you may be talking about ToS and Privacy Statements as some people in this post have pointed out. To that I will say it's also intentionally misleading how these Terms of Conditions and Terms of Service agreements are being written. All in convoluting and unintelligible corporate lingo, plus walls of text that only ever say one thing, this is done in order to have the person press the agree button immediately and have them not think about it anymore. If there's only a legislation that would enforce companies and bookies in this case to make their contracts more readable, that's really going to make a change.

[BenCodie]

Long terms of service documents that span over tens or hundreds of pages are how casinos con their players with unfair rules and conditions. Just like how other day to day/online services use the terms of service to infiltrate, store and sell your data without you knowing. You can argue that it is up to the player to read these documents in full, I would argue that a lot of players trust that the terms of service is a document that includes fair conditions, instead of what it usually is (being, a trap).

[ryzaadit]

I give people advice, you don't need to read the whole term & condition.
- Go to T&C
- User search function (CTRL + F)
- Find A Topic with Keyword (KYC & Withdraw)

These two topic is important, why? for KYC to know did casino asking some KYC or not (but most the time, there always have some word "they can ask you KYC in some case). Withdraw to know the limit withdraw.

Avoid a small limit withdraw without KYC. You can finish these under 2-3 mins.

[Hispo]

While I agree with you and those kind of situations happen more than we are aware of. I want to point out to the fact most of the people do not read any of the terms of service of ANY of the web pages and applications we have gotten on our phones and computers.

I believe it has become something which is actively used by shady companies to turn the balance against us, in the case we end up being a bother to them, in their eyes.  

I give people advice, you don't need to read the whole term & condition.
- Go to T&C
- User search function (CTRL + F)
- Find A Topic with Keyword (KYC & Withdraw)

These two topic is important, why? for KYC to know did casino asking some KYC or not (but most the time, there always have some word "they can ask you KYC in some case). Withdraw to know the limit withdraw.

Avoid a small limit withdraw without KYC. You can finish these under 2-3 mins.

that is a very good advice there. It is something I have done in the past to check the terms and conditions of wallets and exchanges.
Hopefully, most newbies know about the ctrl+f function.  

[SirLancelot]

Most people already knew what is stated in the TOS, yet they still choose to break it because they want to take advantage of the promotions and bonuses. This is common and rampant in sign up bonuses and free spins wherein players create multiple accounts just to get those perks for newbies when they aren't newbies and it's already stated that it is prohibited to create multiple accounts. Sometimes, the people who even rant are those offenders. Which is really courageous of them since they had the guts to even complain of the suspension or banning of their accounts, knowing it to themselves they did unusual activities which lead to their account being compromised.


To cut it short, some people are not ignorant or stupid, rather they just want to make the most out of something they saw worth profiting.

Those people that think no one would know that they've violated the terms and conditions and still start a rant only to take advantage of the fact that their accounts were banned or funds confiscated are basically unethical. They know that they are wrong but they won't admit it and keep trying to get something that doesn't even belong to them in the first place.

They are not ignorant, but they do it with the purpose of maybe getting out clean and get the bonuses that they tried to cheat and have, little they know is that the platform has all their records.

[mirakal]

It is obvious that one of the reasons newbies make huge mistakes in an online casino is because they neglect the do and don't of the game. Forgetting that there must be a set rules for every gambler. The first thing any gambler should do is to go though the
Not just the newbies but also to everyone who plays online casino. And it also advisable to look at the guidelines of the the game as iy may change with time. This will help you not to default as there are penalties to any defaulter of the rules.

What the OP have said is not merely for the newbies only but for all the gamblers here in this forum because even the old gamblers still make some mistake and likely skip the ToS/T&C and even FAQ because of that mindset that maybe this platform is not that different to the other one when in-fact there's a huge chance that the other platform have their own set of rules that is really different to the other one.

It's not just costly gambling mistakes for the newbies but for also the regular gamblers, and this thread that is made by the OP shall be a reminder to all of us.

[Slow death]

I confess that I am not in the habit of reading the TOS of casinos, but I research the reputation of casinos, scam cases, cases of problems with deposits and withdrawals, so when I see that the casino I intend to use has problems with deposits and withdrawals and KYC and when I run to see the TOS, but I don't have the habit of reading the TOS without first doing research on the casino, I know that my defect is not good, but I also don't like to use many casinos at the same time , I prefer to use only stake.com only, because with that I avoid doing KYC in many casinos when stake.com has everything I need

Most people already knew what is stated in the TOS, yet they still choose to break it because they want to take advantage of the promotions and bonuses. This is common and rampant in sign up bonuses and free spins wherein players create multiple accounts just to get those perks for newbies when they aren't newbies and it's already stated that it is prohibited to create multiple accounts. Sometimes, the people who even rant are those offenders. Which is really courageous of them since they had the guts to even complain of the suspension or banning of their accounts, knowing it to themselves they did unusual activities which lead to their account being compromised.


To cut it short, some people are not ignorant or stupid, rather they just want to make the most out of something they saw worth profiting.

Those people that think no one would know that they've violated the terms and conditions and still start a rant only to take advantage of the fact that their accounts were banned or funds confiscated are basically unethical. They know that they are wrong but they won't admit it and keep trying to get something that doesn't even belong to them in the first place.

They are not ignorant, but they do it with the purpose of maybe getting out clean and get the bonuses that they tried to cheat and have, little they know is that the platform has all their records.

the truth is that in most cases of scam customers are prevented from withdrawing money because the casino claims that they have broken the TOS when the casino is just lying, I dare to say that the number of cases of this type exceeds 90%, we have a great example here on the forum of this type of cases, for example:

XBIT.COM ᐉ 7 BTC WB ᐉ Altcoin Betting ᐉ no KYC ᕗ Instant payouts

if anyone takes 1 hour reading all the accusations in this thread you will see that the casino uses the TOS to block people's account even if they are innocent people who have not broken the TOS and unfortunately this is what many casinos have been doing mainly when the customer wins money on the casino

[KTChampions]

The problem is that considering all the rules and risks, I should not use any services  Any ToS is designed so that the client is always in the red and the organization protects itself from all risks. I almost never read ToS seriously because I focus on reputation and reviews, plus I know that in case of problems I will go to court (this, of course, does not apply to online casinos and similar services).

[jostorres]

I know what you mean where most of the newbies who gambled in an online casino is not following the casino's rules and regulations or terms and conditions which could lead them getting banned or never getting their winnings if won. When a person create an account in a casino that person is required to check it which is toknow the reason why people should checked it. Not reading the terms and conditions would lead to that situation or the reason why newbies mameya mistake.

That's because most beginners don't check the casino rules and register directly with the casino. Even though this is important for those who are still beginners so that they slowly learn to understand the rules and don't get into trouble later, and if they already know the rules, they can play calmly and maybe follow the promos in the casino properly. And when they want to withdraw their winnings, it won't be a problem because they haven't violated any casino rules. So no more people complaining that the casino is cheating them because they can't withdraw their winnings.

What can we expect from them? They are just beginners but mistakes like that can re-shape them and build them to become better. The next time they play again, they will check all the details so that the experience that they will get is going to be great.

It was mostly newbies who are tempted to follow the promotions but they will be like us who will get tired of it once they figured out that promotions are hard to fulfill. There are casinos who are scam and no matter how we follow their rules, we still can't be able to withdraw our winnings. Complaining is useless because there is no way that they can change their mind once they already done those things.

[dunfida]

I know what you mean where most of the newbies who gambled in an online casino is not following the casino's rules and regulations or terms and conditions which could lead them getting banned or never getting their winnings if won. When a person create an account in a casino that person is required to check it which is toknow the reason why people should checked it. Not reading the terms and conditions would lead to that situation or the reason why newbies mameya mistake.

That's because most beginners don't check the casino rules and register directly with the casino. Even though this is important for those who are still beginners so that they slowly learn to understand the rules and don't get into trouble later, and if they already know the rules, they can play calmly and maybe follow the promos in the casino properly. And when they want to withdraw their winnings, it won't be a problem because they haven't violated any casino rules. So no more people complaining that the casino is cheating them because they can't withdraw their winnings.

What can we expect from them? They are just beginners but mistakes like that can re-shape them and build them to become better. The next time they play again, they will check all the details so that the experience that they will get is going to be great.

It was mostly newbies who are tempted to follow the promotions but they will be like us who will get tired of it once they figured out that promotions are hard to fulfill. There are casinos who are scam and no matter how we follow their rules, we still can't be able to withdraw our winnings. Complaining is useless because there is no way that they can change their mind once they already done those things.

We do always say about mistakes and errors are the best teachers but eventually we could really be able to avoid up these things if we are really just that mindful when it comes to
reading up those terms and conditions or whatever information that must be read up because it would really be able to avoid you into committing out those common mistakes if you have just spare up some time for that.

Sooner or later they would really be realizing that bonuses and other correlated stuffs wont really be that something interesting considering that terms and requirement isnt
something that simply achievable.

[passwordnow]

I confess that I am not in the habit of reading the TOS of casinos, but I research the reputation of casinos, scam cases, cases of problems with deposits and withdrawals, so when I see that the casino I intend to use has problems with deposits and withdrawals and KYC and when I run to see the TOS, but I don't have the habit of reading the TOS without first doing research on the casino, I know that my defect is not good, but I also don't like to use many casinos at the same time , I prefer to use only stake.com only, because with that I avoid doing KYC in many casinos when stake.com has everything I need

You're not alone, many of us here I guess have that habit that we're not reading the TOS of where we're registering with. I think that's a par thing to do even if we don't read TOS and just sign up immediately but before we sign up, we're doing some research. However, that's still not a reason to avoid reading the TOS just because we've already made research. Actually, it's making me think that research first which is needed to be done, and then reading the TOS if we're decided to sign up and gamble from that casino we're researching. So, it's gotta be a combination of both of it to be not resulting into a mistake.

[bittraffic]

I confess that I am not in the habit of reading the TOS of casinos, but I research the reputation of casinos, scam cases, cases of problems with deposits and withdrawals, so when I see that the casino I intend to use has problems with deposits and withdrawals and KYC and when I run to see the TOS, but I don't have the habit of reading the TOS without first doing research on the casino, I know that my defect is not good, but I also don't like to use many casinos at the same time , I prefer to use only stake.com only, because with that I avoid doing KYC in many casinos when stake.com has everything I need

You're not alone, many of us here I guess have that habit that we're not reading the TOS of where we're registering with. I think that's a par thing to do even if we don't read TOS and just sign up immediately but before we sign up, we're doing some research. However, that's still not a reason to avoid reading the TOS just because we've already made research. Actually, it's making me think that research first which is needed to be done, and then reading the TOS if we're decided to sign up and gamble from that casino we're researching. So, it's gotta be a combination of both of it to be not resulting into a mistake.

That's what users are doing. Instead of reading the TOS, they research on the forum and google to see if the casino is trusted or not. Once they find it good, they deposit and bet, that's just what is it.

I have no patience reading a long TOS that will take time either. Submitting KYC documents may be what he meant by costly but people are now OK with it anymore. There is no escaping from regulations. But it could be costly if OP meant the users will be cheating the casino.

[Finestream]

not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

I don't know of any gambling site that don't live you an accord box to there T&C to click before processing a registration. It's protocol for all registered gambling sites as a means to ensure the rules guiding the sphere is followed squarely and for there protection as well.
Apparently, it's mostly ignored by users due to an adrenaline rush to register and start gambling with immediate effect and they have no idea on what they've agreed to.
It's always annoying and funny to have them come up with theseaccusations at times on confiscated funds and frozen accounts. It's always up to users most times and if you play by the rules, the rules would surely guide you. When you don't play by the rules, it would be used in prosecuting you.

I know users are already aware of the importance of these rules, these terms and conditions but maybe due to laziness to read because of their greed for money making, they turn to gamble without understanding the terms and conditions first, and makes them regret in the end. And then users end up making false accusations, posting complaints here and there, not realizing that they are the ones responsible of their own mistakes in gambling.

[Lanatsa]

not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

I don't know of any gambling site that don't live you an accord box to there T&C to click before processing a registration. It's protocol for all registered gambling sites as a means to ensure the rules guiding the sphere is followed squarely and for there protection as well.
Apparently, it's mostly ignored by users due to an adrenaline rush to register and start gambling with immediate effect and they have no idea on what they've agreed to.
It's always annoying and funny to have them come up with theseaccusations at times on confiscated funds and frozen accounts. It's always up to users most times and if you play by the rules, the rules would surely guide you. When you don't play by the rules, it would be used in prosecuting you.

I know users are already aware of the importance of these rules, these terms and conditions but maybe due to laziness to read because of their greed for money making, they turn to gamble without understanding the terms and conditions first, and makes them regret in the end. And then users end up making false accusations, posting complaints here and there, not realizing that they are the ones responsible of their own mistakes in gambling.

And they do make themselves looks like a fool on what they're doing on which making out accusations without even trying to look on what they had committed or violated.They would be just simply be laughed
on by people and would really be pointing out fingers into a particular user who had just missed out on reading up something.Therefore, on the time you do make out some complaints then be sure that
you had fully followed their terms and conditions so that on the time that issues been raised up then you are on the right thing and could prove out that the platform
or the company is on having issues.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I seriously don't think it's proper to just jump on a casino site and begin to request for a wallet to deposit 'em funds and begin gambling immediately, when you're supposed to read alot from the listed TOS,T/C's and FAQs just to know how the whole operational route is supposed to be followed without unnecessary fouls on the long run.
I've seen diverse instances where peeps just get registered since they're too greedily enticed by 'em bonuses, etc...and afterwards, they'll end up trying to request a withdrawal (including the bonuses) without fulfilling the 'em terms and conditions,...and that's where everything will end cus the casino will be left with no choice than to lock your account up

Sandra 🧑‍🦰