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April 29, 2023, 10:04:15 PM |
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I have more interest in altcoins than bitcoin because they give more ROI, but we are not in a bull market yet and Ethereum gas fee keeps surging since yesterday, it is fair if you are sending ETH from a wallet to another but the real deal is when you plan to send tokens from a wallet to another, the gas is high and this makes me wonder what will happen in a bull market, because most of my tokens are on Erc-20 chain, what is a good way to be prepared for this?
Transaction fees on the Ethereum network rise whenever there is pressure and demand on the network and when there is increased activity by users who cause network congestion by a large number of transactions and through the markets of NFTs, so there are two solutions in front of you, either to choose a time when the network is unoccupied and does not have pressure such as off-peak times, or you can use other networks as alternatives and solutions for lower fees. Me, I prefer Polygon, BSC, Optimism, and Arbitrum, and I see that the fees in these networks are low compared to Ethereum in which fees may reach more than tens of dollars per transaction, So the choice is up to you.
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lobo13hf
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April 29, 2023, 11:04:52 PM |
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I think there should be second layer that automatically redeploy the smart contract of these tokens in their blockchain same like in eth, then if there's any transaction in the l2 it will integrate back to the ethereum some ways. I think sending token fee problem already solved with the presence of l2 its just that many tokens just don't want to make their contract available at the other alternative blockchain for some reasons.
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April 29, 2023, 11:12:28 PM |
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its not that the fee of ethereum in term of gwei has been increase, well yes it did increase at some moments but the value of ethereum is already too high, i think ethereum should know that if their coin is always gonna be rising up linearly, then their gas fee will never be solved, it's just really unfortunate that what binance ceo said is true, ethereum is the rich people blockchain.
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April 29, 2023, 11:36:29 PM |
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I know some people are very bullish on Ethereum be I don't see how because of these high gas issues and in the near future if this is not rectified most of the good and strong projects will likely migrate to L2 platforms plus new tokens will not see Ethereum attractive for listings, these 2 point makes me sit on the fence when it comes to Ether price until I see a significant reduction in gas price. I am bullish on L2 projects and not on Ethereum
I totally agree with you, we started a project years back on ethereum, hoping the new ethereum upgrade will fix the high gas issues, but we were left disappointed, we have since started explore alternatives like stellar blockchain making use of batching features to carry out many transactions and still pay same fees, I think ethereum can think in that direction as well, if the gas issues is solved, ethereum will have massive projects coming on board
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April 29, 2023, 11:50:28 PM |
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If you have been experiencing with the previous bull market and you might know so well what happened with ethereum fees during the bullish market. You can use this as your reference to know the historical chart of ethereum fees right now https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/ethereum-transactionfees.html#3yYou can see if ethereum transaction has ever touched $200 bucks for a single transction. That thing could repeat. Ethereum has a very slow block transaction and it will be better to avoid use ethereum blockchain for the transaction during the bullish market. Your profit may be only used to pay the transaction fees. The second layer solution has been giving us more choices to avoid the high fees in ethereum blockchain. The only solution for this. 1. Use second layer solution which was supporting ethereum or EVM compatible like Optimism, Arbitrum or Zksync. 2. Use first layer solution that is also having EVM compatible.
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carrie_white
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May 05, 2023, 06:50:44 PM |
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the problem with the ethereum blockchain is always the expensive gas fee, especially when the market bullish, the ethereum gas fee will be very high anyway, that's why I prefer to use BSC, because it's much cheaper even though the market bullish
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May 05, 2023, 09:07:33 PM |
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I think it's not only the problem of altcoin market or ETH in general, but if you look at BTC mempool right now, it's up to more than $7 to do a transaction. I haven't seen this one since 2017 mempool clogging.
So this is very bad for the whole crypto market in general, investors and traders are going to be frustrated. I know that it's going to be cleared, but if you are in a hurry and wanted to send someone some ETH or BTC to exchange to Fiat then this is the bad time. I'm not looking for a fix, just hoping that it will be cleared as soon as possible to enjoy the benefits, just saying.
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bittick
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May 05, 2023, 10:03:45 PM |
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the problem with the ethereum blockchain is always the expensive gas fee, especially when the market bullish, the ethereum gas fee will be very high anyway, that's why I prefer to use BSC, because it's much cheaper even though the market bullish
BSC has less traffic of course it will be having significantly cheaper fee, even right now the trading volume between the two differs a lot. the problem with eth is that there are too much airdrops claiming and even NFT minting, it's on daily basis, it trigger the change in fee heavily.
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May 05, 2023, 10:18:24 PM |
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I think it's not only the problem of altcoin market or ETH in general, but if you look at BTC mempool right now, it's up to more than $7 to do a transaction. I haven't seen this one since 2017 mempool clogging.
So this is very bad for the whole crypto market in general, investors and traders are going to be frustrated. I know that it's going to be cleared, but if you are in a hurry and wanted to send someone some ETH or BTC to exchange to Fiat then this is the bad time. I'm not looking for a fix, just hoping that it will be cleared as soon as possible to enjoy the benefits, just saying.
I wonder if it's caused by constant transaction of the layer 2 transaction batch submitter in which consistently submitting transaction every second, instead of helping ethereum keeping the transaction off chain so that the ethereum transaction reduced, it instead further clogs the ethereum by increasing traffic since we all know there so many meme coin minting in these layer 2.
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May 05, 2023, 11:55:05 PM |
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I think it's not only the problem of altcoin market or ETH in general, but if you look at BTC mempool right now, it's up to more than $7 to do a transaction. I haven't seen this one since 2017 mempool clogging.
The same thing, the last time I've seen the fees to be this high and even higher was during that year. So this is very bad for the whole crypto market in general, investors and traders are going to be frustrated. I know that it's going to be cleared, but if you are in a hurry and wanted to send someone some ETH or BTC to exchange to Fiat then this is the bad time. I'm not looking for a fix, just hoping that it will be cleared as soon as possible to enjoy the benefits, just saying.
And it will be even gonna frustrating to see when these media again publish how expensive the fees are. It's going to be another fiesta for those media that don't agree with crypto and are just waiting for some events like this for them to give exposure to the public. Sure, it will be another great headline for them that will easily trigger a lot of readers whether pro or anti-crypto. That's how their business works but they're on the position to do that because they're on that business.
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May 06, 2023, 12:26:33 AM |
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I think it's not only the problem of altcoin market or ETH in general, but if you look at BTC mempool right now, it's up to more than $7 to do a transaction. I haven't seen this one since 2017 mempool clogging.
The same thing, the last time I've seen the fees to be this high and even higher was during that year. yes, it was this high when metaverse and general blockchain gaming which requires so many transaction are still a thing. right now they are rather miniscule if compared with the nft minting and airdrops. it also still rather baffles me how many developers out there still deploying their nft and coin in ethereum blockchain i mean there are quite literally so many second layer solution already out right now and they just choose ethereum just because it's popular with the down side and disadvantage of paying the tremendous gas fee as high as more than $100 just for transfering erc20 which is ridiculous, and not only that, even the participants that claimed airdrops and mint nft are willing to do that knowing the value of the thing they claimed more likely less than the fee used, which is ridiculous.
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May 06, 2023, 02:14:29 AM |
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I think we have seen a lot of fractions from the ethereum network, such as arbitium, bsc, matic(polygon), therefore if we want to adapt a little to them I'm sure the expensive gas costs from the ethereum network will be covered soon, well this is the best solution in my opinion , I'm sure even the project developer is happy for his project to adapt to a lighter network than having to continue to be a token on the ethereum network.
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blockman
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May 06, 2023, 09:14:23 AM |
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I think it's not only the problem of altcoin market or ETH in general, but if you look at BTC mempool right now, it's up to more than $7 to do a transaction. I haven't seen this one since 2017 mempool clogging.
The same thing, the last time I've seen the fees to be this high and even higher was during that year. yes, it was this high when metaverse and general blockchain gaming which requires so many transaction are still a thing. right now they are rather miniscule if compared with the nft minting and airdrops. it also still rather baffles me how many developers out there still deploying their nft and coin in ethereum blockchain i mean there are quite literally so many second layer solution already out right now and they just choose ethereum just because it's popular with the down side and disadvantage of paying the tremendous gas fee as high as more than $100 just for transfering erc20 which is ridiculous, and not only that, even the participants that claimed airdrops and mint nft are willing to do that knowing the value of the thing they claimed more likely less than the fee used, which is ridiculous. I guess this has something to do with the hype coins that have been lately flying like the meme coins and Pepe coins. The NFTs during 2021 have also made the fees too high, while we're near to the bull run again. There have been projects left and right and developers are quick into making something again that shall gather the attention of many investors. From this, they're making cause for the traffic in the network that results for the fees to be high. While for bitcoin, the fees are high as well and this is ridiculous where you can see almost everywhere that the fees are nowhere to be found but all of them to be crazily high. I'm just thinking positive on this that we're actually near to the bull run.
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May 06, 2023, 09:57:28 AM |
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I have more interest in altcoins than bitcoin because they give more ROI, but we are not in a bull market yet and Ethereum gas fee keeps surging since yesterday, it is fair if you are sending ETH from a wallet to another but the real deal is when you plan to send tokens from a wallet to another, the gas is high and this makes me wonder what will happen in a bull market, because most of my tokens are on Erc-20 chain, what is a good way to be prepared for this?
Well that's the big problem specially when the token is very low price it will end up like the gas fee is higher than the amount of token that we sell or we buy, i already experience it that is why i am now looking for a token than runs through different networks not in erc-20 only because of the gas fee.
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May 06, 2023, 06:13:40 PM |
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Yes high gas fees and sending token/coin is still now very big problems for us and every crypto lovers because when we fund some best coin in exchange and buy some best coin for long time holding than we need to transfer it our personal wallet like TrustWallet / coinbase / Myetherwallet Etc than we try to send wallet than showing very high gas fee it’s very bad for every crypto lovers.
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May 06, 2023, 06:40:42 PM |
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I have more interest in altcoins than bitcoin because they give more ROI, but we are not in a bull market yet and Ethereum gas fee keeps surging since yesterday, it is fair if you are sending ETH from a wallet to another but the real deal is when you plan to send tokens from a wallet to another, the gas is high and this makes me wonder what will happen in a bull market, because most of my tokens are on Erc-20 chain, what is a good way to be prepared for this?
lately, the fees for altcoin transactions have been very disappointing, gas is very expensive today and making transactions is very expensive today, apparently, the price will not fall soon, but not long ago in 2017, transactions were miserable and you could drive altcoins wherever you want, we will expect a drop in gas prices in order to make some kind of movement
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May 06, 2023, 07:18:09 PM |
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The gas fee on Ethereum is crazy and I just don't know how those people trading on it expect small accounts to make money from it, I saw an account spent $81 to exchange $100 tokens on Uniswap, he should have waited or not make the trade at all because it is a zero-sum game, the only winner hear are the whales, If your portfolio is less than $100k there is no need to use Ethereum network move to other chains and compound your gains
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May 06, 2023, 08:39:15 PM |
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if you are sending ETH from a wallet to another but the real deal is when you plan to send tokens from a wallet to another, the gas is high and this makes me wonder
This is a major concern and the main reason why coins like bitcoin and ethereum and the rest have not gone full adaption, and when you build project on them, the high cause fees will make less people to use it but i think blockchain as a technology is still in it's infancy and i strongly believe in the future, they will navigate around it and offer cheaper fees, I would love a situtation where app builders on blockchain will be able to specify fees they want their users to pay. It will make massive sense for me
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May 06, 2023, 08:49:32 PM |
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I have more interest in altcoins than bitcoin because they give more ROI, but we are not in a bull market yet and Ethereum gas fee keeps surging since yesterday, it is fair if you are sending ETH from a wallet to another but the real deal is when you plan to send tokens from a wallet to another, the gas is high and this makes me wonder what will happen in a bull market, because most of my tokens are on Erc-20 chain, what is a good way to be prepared for this?
I am also the type of investor, that is preferring to invest into altcoins instead of into bitcoin. I joined the crypto market back in 2017 and even back then it already felt to me like i was already to late for Bitcoin, because the early investors had already made a x10000 or something with bitcoin even back then and i just don't like to invest into such projects. I only invest small amounts into crypto so if i invest 100$ into bitcoin then maybe those will be 200$ in a few years but that is not really an amount that will do anything for me. The current fees on ETH make it's whole chain almost completely unusable for me. I only make small investments and if i have to pay 50$ for a swap than i prefer to not make a trade at all.
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May 06, 2023, 10:06:42 PM |
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I have more interest in altcoins than bitcoin because they give more ROI, but we are not in a bull market yet and Ethereum gas fee keeps surging since yesterday, it is fair if you are sending ETH from a wallet to another but the real deal is when you plan to send tokens from a wallet to another, the gas is high and this makes me wonder what will happen in a bull market, because most of my tokens are on Erc-20 chain, what is a good way to be prepared for this?
If the market experiences a bull run, of course the token transaction fees on the Ethereum blockchain will be even higher. This also happened before during the 2021 bull run. However Ethereum 2.0 can reduce gas fees when making transactions, but does this only apply to Ethereum transactions, while for token transactions it remains high. If the blockchain is busy, then Gwei will increase automatically, so the gas fee is even higher.
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