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March 22, 2023, 07:03:33 PM |
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Have seen fixed match argument several times and my answer is always same, winner is only known by wwe bookers and not to anyone else.
Would bet on wwe matches if there were bookmakers taking bets for it.
You really think that it will be fair and do you really think that the bookies will be accepting bets for something that is fixed. Even for legit games it is hard to contain the fixing issues during certain sporting events and imagine what will be the shit show with a match that is scripted from top to bottom, even the promos the wrestlers does are scripted and even the commentary is scripted.
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March 22, 2023, 07:21:02 PM |
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I don’t see how this could possibly work. Gambling on scripted matches is basically legalized scamming if you know any of the people involved who can give you a heads up beforehand. I imagine if this is allowed to happen going forward, there will be scandals galore. Even if you were honest and one of your friends made a lot of money betting on your match, you’re likely to be investigated. It just seems like a terrible idea.
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March 22, 2023, 10:06:49 PM |
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I have the same sentiment. I have tried betting on it before and I felt like I have just wasted my time and funds because the result seems unrealistic. It is acceptable that it's part of the risk but dealing with scripted sports is too hard. It's better to risk on legit and reliable sports betting games than WWE which could easily be manipulated. For some people, they see it as a fun game but to serious gamblers, it will only provide an upsetting result.
I feel you especially if you really bet for it and it was a hefty amount of money you place. And as you watch if your bet is going to win or not, that's painful to see that the wrestler that you've bet for is winning the match but then, there's a sudden increase on strength on opponent's side and then managed to smash and do solid jabs to the wrestler you bet for. We all know that type of seen when the favorite wrestler is already about to get beaten but then, there's the force that made him stronger all of a sudden and that's going to make him win. I haven't bet for WWE although I know this sport and I've been watching it since a kid but no longer today. It's not worth it in my opinion that the results are scripted and you'll feel cheated about it because as a bettor, we also base on odds and the results do go against it.
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March 22, 2023, 10:31:43 PM |
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I don’t see how this could possibly work. Gambling on scripted matches is basically legalized scamming if you know any of the people involved who can give you a heads up beforehand. I imagine if this is allowed to happen going forward, there will be scandals galore. Even if you were honest and one of your friends made a lot of money betting on your match, you’re likely to be investigated. It just seems like a terrible idea.
Just to imagine that they are giving out those odds or betting line in early manner and would be seeing on where the majority is betting on then of course it could really be manipulated and would be changing up those outcomes for those bookies to make money or someone who do make out huge bets inside the organization which it do really sucks big time you do know that results could be potentially altered. This is why its never been that recommended nor really that interesting on betting on matches like this.Yes, its entertaining but its not something that you could really assure about its fairness which its obviously scripted as we do all know.
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March 22, 2023, 11:20:58 PM |
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WWE is completely scripted, each and every move and the dialogues were already prepared and executed without flaws. People who watch it doesn't feel like they're watching a scripted fight. Even myself doesn't believed in this, later understood that they have an academy where each and everyone are trained and the fighters qualified are one by one made to participate into different fights.
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March 22, 2023, 11:34:13 PM |
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From my understanding of wrestle mania WWE,I see it as a fixed fight,which there is an agreement of who will win the fight. Despite all these people still buy tickets to watch the fight. I don't see this as a transparent fight,but people still bet on this fight. Is it that they are ignorant of this fight fixing or they are addicted to gambling and just bet on whatever come across them. As a gambler will you bet on such fight,when you know that the fight is fixed and the outcome of the fight is not for real,or will you go ahead to bet for fun?
Let's suppose the WWE fights are fixed and they are just simulations but the general public does not know who will win the fight. So for us, it is just a fight where the result is unknown and we can place the bet. There is no advantage to the people betting on WWE as they do not know the results in advance. Yeah, if someone insider knows about it and places the bet accordingly then for sure he or she can make easy money. Also if you know someone that works in WWE and knows what's going to happen, you may also want to take advantage of this.
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March 22, 2023, 11:59:52 PM |
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From my understanding of wrestle mania WWE,I see it as a fixed fight,which there is an agreement of who will win the fight. Despite all these people still buy tickets to watch the fight. I don't see this as a transparent fight,but people still bet on this fight. Is it that they are ignorant of this fight fixing or they are addicted to gambling and just bet on whatever come across them. As a gambler will you bet on such fight,when you know that the fight is fixed and the outcome of the fight is not for real,or will you go ahead to bet for fun?
It's not a fixed fight but rather Wrestle Mania is a staged match. A fixed match is a legit match where some intentional loss will happen. In a staged match, it's clear it's for the show that's why it was even called entertainment. Betting in such a match is absolutely insane, not because it's staged, but because bettors are risking money for something that can't be applied with any form of analysis.
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March 23, 2023, 03:47:29 AM |
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Have seen fixed match argument several times and my answer is always same, winner is only known by wwe bookers and not to anyone else.
Would bet on wwe matches if there were bookmakers taking bets for it.
You really think that it will be fair and do you really think that the bookies will be accepting bets for something that is fixed. Even for legit games it is hard to contain the fixing issues during certain sporting events and imagine what will be the shit show with a match that is scripted from top to bottom, even the promos the wrestlers does are scripted and even the commentary is scripted. Did you read what I said? I know everything is scripted, but booking is only contained within wwe and not to outside world. In worst case scenario, wwe betting can be exploited only by wwe executives themselves.
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March 23, 2023, 04:50:24 AM |
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From my understanding of wrestle mania WWE,I see it as a fixed fight,which there is an agreement of who will win the fight. Despite all these people still buy tickets to watch the fight. I don't see this as a transparent fight,but people still bet on this fight. Is it that they are ignorant of this fight fixing or they are addicted to gambling and just bet on whatever come across them. As a gambler will you bet on such fight,when you know that the fight is fixed and the outcome of the fight is not for real,or will you go ahead to bet for fun?
betting on friendly matches like the WWE is very bad for me when the match will take a turn for the worse when some people try to manipulate the match to gain a bigger advantage. in a WWE match to be honest I never spent any money on that match, because for me it's just a waste of time and a waste of money. if maybe there is someone who buys tickets to bet on a WWE match, he is just one of those addicts who wants to satisfy his addiction in any match and what's worse, he doesn't understand what's going on behind the match. WWE is completely scripted, each and every move and the dialogues were already prepared and executed without flaws. People who watch it doesn't feel like they're watching a scripted fight. Even myself doesn't believed in this, later understood that they have an academy where each and everyone are trained and the fighters qualified are one by one made to participate into different fights.
well, in the end they are gamblers who are aware of this, they will definitely avoid these bets preferring to bet on other matches such as MMA which are more real. what is certain is that all WWE matches are planned beforehand and can change whenever they want, because this kind of match in the world of gambling is very bad for me
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i love the game, I love the players so surely I will put my bet specially in my favorite Wrestlers .
I remember being a Kid loving the game without knowing it is a scripted fight but when i learn about that? i care nothing because it is the fun that i gather each time I watch and of course if i Win in gambling.
lets not make it controversial because we are not being force to put our bets.
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March 23, 2023, 11:11:48 AM |
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i love the game, I love the players so surely I will put my bet specially in my favorite Wrestlers .
I remember being a Kid loving the game without knowing it is a scripted fight but when i learn about that? i care nothing because it is the fun that i gather each time I watch and of course if i Win in gambling.
lets not make it controversial because we are not being force to put our bets.
It's what we have to do because no one is forcing us to place bets on WWE. If we don't like it, we can choose other sports betting that attracts us more. Maybe we think that WWE is full of violence, which makes us dislike it. But for others, it's a joy they like because it's different from other shows. But it will be dangerous if children like such shows because they can trigger violence among children. In addition, we have seen what the consequences are if children watch scenes of violence like that, even though the scenes are scripted.
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Bets on WWE ? Funny! Why would I want to bet on a fake sport ? I mean , yea , for entertaining is great to watch ...but to place bets on them ? when most of the fans know the script even before the fight is planned and they know the winner before the fight as well. So I think , these are 2 main reasons of why betting houses will most likely never accept or see WWE as a betting sport.
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This is the first WWE thread I have seen in the forum but I believe others are there in the Gambling Discussion Board. I was also wondering why people are interested to watch a match that is not real. I just thought that many people are going there for fund and others might be there to while their time. Well some of them also addicted so they just create WWE fun process to gambling ground.
If I remember, there was another WWE thread here before but it was now buried alive because it was not bumped actively. I think that's one obvious reason that many people are lacking an interest on it. MMA threads, boxing and the likes are more active than it, I think it's because it was a real one and people find it more thrilling and entertaining. The same thing is experienced when it comes to betting. They can also ensure that their bets are more likely to win, as long as they have done some deep analysis. I think WWE is only a brand name and the entertainment in its name, does not indicate that it was staged although the show itself is. Many kids are still entertained on it.
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March 23, 2023, 08:59:21 PM |
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WWE is completely scripted, each and every move and the dialogues were already prepared and executed without flaws. People who watch it doesn't feel like they're watching a scripted fight. Even myself doesn't believed in this, later understood that they have an academy where each and everyone are trained and the fighters qualified are one by one made to participate into different fights. this reminds me of years ago, if my memory serves me right 18 years ago i used to watch wwe every sunday, i remember that time when i watched and saw the fighters with a lot of blood, then another fighter would pick up a stick with chains and he hit the opponent, when it was undertake it had that whole dark effect when he went to fight that even scared me and the guy had no mercy with opponents, so all that in my head there was no room to think it was a lie, for me it was It was a real fight, to this day I keep asking myself how could all of that be staged? I mean, guys bleed, guys grab the belt when they're champions, so it took time for me to accept that it's all staged because when I watched wwe I always saw a lot of people watching sitting on the chairs where the fights were taking place, so everything looked really real, those people paid tickets to watch the fights, so that means that those people already knew who would win the fight anyway before the fight takes place? considering that those people who bought tickets to watch the fight knew it was all staged, why did they pay to watch staged? I confess that I don't understand this Many kids are still entertained on it. this is a photo from this year: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.sportcal.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F32%2F2023%2F02%2Fmain63f79bd18c2e5.jpg&t=665&c=QukZKvEj_SwN2Q) The World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) promotion has announced record gate and viewership figures for its Elimination Chamber event in Montreal, Canada, over the weekend. source: https://www.sportcal.com/media/wwes-2023-elimination-chamber-sets-gate-and-viewership-records/as you can see in the picture, most of the people are adult people, and see there are a lot of adult people watching, from what i can see a lot of adult people still like wwe a lot, what i don't understand is how the fighters manage to pick up sticks and hitting another fighter until they start bleeding and that's part of the act and those jumps and moves they do are very dangerous things
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March 23, 2023, 10:19:32 PM |
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~ Let's suppose the WWE fights are fixed and they are just simulations but the general public does not know who will win the fight. So for us, it is just a fight where the result is unknown and we can place the bet. There is no advantage to the people betting on WWE as they do not know the results in advance. Yeah, if someone insider knows about it and places the bet accordingly then for sure he or she can make easy money. Also if you know someone that works in WWE and knows what's going to happen, you may also want to take advantage of this.
There is no way these type of fixed fights can be secretive. Even in the UFC there was a fixing scandal recently when Shayilan Nuerdanbieke took on Darrick Minner and the fight camp of Minner knew that he was injured coming into the fight and somehow word went out and before the fight millions of dollars were placed on Shayilan Nuerdanbieke to win the fight in the first round and investigation is underway and the people who leaked that will be punished and in that scenario how would a scripted fight be available for bets.
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March 23, 2023, 10:26:24 PM |
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This had been discussed already and we gave different opinions. Why would a gambler decide to bet on a fixed match?? Most especially when the options are unlimitedly given?? It'll only decrease the chances of getting a win outta that and, that would only mean wasting 'em bucks for nothing. I learnt that some football matches too are usually fixed and them fixtures are smuggled out somehow, to be sold for a huge amount...so irritating! Except otherwise, any gambler won't wanna try betting on wrestling matches.
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March 23, 2023, 11:21:23 PM |
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considering that those people who bought tickets to watch the fight knew it was all staged, why did they pay to watch staged? I confess that I don't understand this I don't know where's the confusing part. It's simple, those people who are always present at the venue are huge fans of WWE and they have their own favorite WWE Superstars. Damn, even that staged, for a regular viewer and follower of WWE, who doesn't want to see their WWE Superstars live? It's like these people are watching movies with their favorite celebrities. If I'm given a chance, I would not even skip watching WWE Live as I'm a fan of it before during my younger days. Well, those who didn't grow up with an interest in watching WWE, will never understand why there are people who will paid ticket for that.
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March 23, 2023, 11:27:49 PM |
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Have seen fixed match argument several times and my answer is always same, winner is only known by wwe bookers and not to anyone else.
Would bet on wwe matches if there were bookmakers taking bets for it.
You really think that it will be fair and do you really think that the bookies will be accepting bets for something that is fixed. Even for legit games it is hard to contain the fixing issues during certain sporting events and imagine what will be the shit show with a match that is scripted from top to bottom, even the promos the wrestlers does are scripted and even the commentary is scripted. Don't you think this is too risky for gambling sites and bookmakers to accept the bets on fixed matches such as WWE ? If even a few people know the result of the match, they can place high amounts on those matches and make big money. That is why we don't see these WWE matches bets on every sports betting sites. Damn, even that staged, for a regular viewer and follower of WWE, who doesn't want to see their WWE Superstars live? It's like these people are watching movies with their favorite celebrities. If I'm given a chance, I would not even skip watching WWE Live as I'm a fan of it before during my younger days.
It does not matter for the viewers if the WWE results are fixed. They will get entertained watching the live fight between their favorite superstars? It is more entertaining to watch WWE live match than to watch a movie. However, as long as the general public do now know the results in advance, they will continue to have an interest in WWE matches.
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March 23, 2023, 11:40:02 PM |
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Bets on WWE ? Funny! Why would I want to bet on a fake sport ? I mean , yea , for entertaining is great to watch ...but to place bets on them ? when most of the fans know the script even before the fight is planned and they know the winner before the fight as well. So I think , these are 2 main reasons of why betting houses will most likely never accept or see WWE as a betting sport.
True, everything is fake. They just act and make money. Most of the WEE fighters later seen on different movies. Even to watch the match it doesn't looks funny. Just the referee will be trying to finish the match with the three beats, but someone will distract and the fighter gets up. At times someone shakes the leg of the player and referee wasn't aware of it. Only mistake there is no VAR or review system. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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March 23, 2023, 11:56:31 PM |
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Bets on WWE ? Funny! Why would I want to bet on a fake sport ? I mean , yea , for entertaining is great to watch ...but to place bets on them ? when most of the fans know the script even before the fight is planned and they know the winner before the fight as well. So I think , these are 2 main reasons of why betting houses will most likely never accept or see WWE as a betting sport.
True, everything is fake. They just act and make money. Most of the WEE fighters later seen on different movies. Even to watch the match it doesn't looks funny. Just the referee will be trying to finish the match with the three beats, but someone will distract and the fighter gets up. At times someone shakes the leg of the player and referee wasn't aware of it. Only mistake there is no VAR or review system. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Why there's hate and criticism now about WWE when in fact right from the start it's staged? Did they hide or even secret? It's something that can't be treated as a normal sport event because, in the very first place, WWE wasn't meant to be that way. Blame those people who want to put a bet on that as the WWE itself doesn't have anything to do about it.
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