Copa America 2024 (CONMEBOL & Concacaf Collaboration) - Discussion Thread

[alegotardo]

based on a report from ESPN, copa america 2024 which was originally going to be held in ecuador, was transferred to the USA because ecuador is experiencing security problems in their country. but before going to the copa america 2024, the concacaf national league will be held first (qualification).

Exactly! Because the Copa America 2024 will have 10 teams from Conmebol and six more from Concacaf that will enter the dispute with the condition of "invited".
The decision to host this dispute in the United States was quite right, as they will certainly be well prepared already aiming at the necessary structure for the next world cup, which means that they want to make a good impression and not let anything spoil it.

My bet obviously goes to the Brazilian team, I hope they do well in the championship and reach at least the semi-finals.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It's a great thread, I like the importance that is being given to South American football, also the fact of having 6 Concacaf teams is something quite good, before they only invited Mexico and it was very good, now the Copa América will last longer time and it will be more exciting, it is also good to integrate the close confederations and with that you can see the high level that can be measured, many say that the Euroeas qualifiers are the strongest, but nothing to see, you have to see the South American qualifiers, where The players have hot weather one day and the next day they have to be at a high altitude where it is difficult to breathe, it is like playing in Barranquilla (Colombia, very hot) and then the next day they go to Bolivia in La Paz (very high), that affects.

The weather is certainly one important aspect to consider and that might also be a reason why over the decades the best soccer infrastructure in the world was established in Europe. But nobody really doubts that South American soccer players can be the best of the best obviously, but the leagues aren't really. The big stuff happens in Europe and that is why every single South American superstar ends up playing for a team in Europe.

Though I fully agree that putting more emphasis on that part of the world and also to funnel more money to that part (hopefully) due to drawing more attention to it does help a lot with providing young talents with better chances to make it as a professional soccer player.

The only way to find out which part of the world is better (Europe vs. CONCACAF) would be to have a league with the six best European countries against the six best CONCACAF teams. Not that I am hoping for that to happen, but it would be interesting to see how it ends. In tournaments it is often difficult to judge as the luck factor can play quite the role although Europe has been dominating for the last two decades.

Well, the important thing here is to know how it can be done in order to have a better vision of everything, clearly the teams and Leagues in Europe are more supported, the strong publicity is in that part of the world, when we talk about fútbol in general it is known that in Europe as in any part of the world when Brazil and Argentina are the closest References to being the toughest rivals that exist in South America, from Concacaf I cannot deny that Mexico is the best,but like everything it is a business model , Europe has very good and strong infrastructures, this is also something that cannot be denied, perhaps that is why the largest capital of fútbol clubs are there.

[shogun47]

It's a great thread, I like the importance that is being given to South American football, also the fact of having 6 Concacaf teams is something quite good, before they only invited Mexico and it was very good, now the Copa América will last longer time and it will be more exciting, it is also good to integrate the close confederations and with that you can see the high level that can be measured, many say that the Euroeas qualifiers are the strongest, but nothing to see, you have to see the South American qualifiers, where The players have hot weather one day and the next day they have to be at a high altitude where it is difficult to breathe, it is like playing in Barranquilla (Colombia, very hot) and then the next day they go to Bolivia in La Paz (very high), that affects.

The weather is certainly one important aspect to consider and that might also be a reason why over the decades the best soccer infrastructure in the world was established in Europe. But nobody really doubts that South American soccer players can be the best of the best obviously, but the leagues aren't really. The big stuff happens in Europe and that is why every single South American superstar ends up playing for a team in Europe.

Though I fully agree that putting more emphasis on that part of the world and also to funnel more money to that part (hopefully) due to drawing more attention to it does help a lot with providing young talents with better chances to make it as a professional soccer player.

The only way to find out which part of the world is better (Europe vs. CONCACAF) would be to have a league with the six best European countries against the six best CONCACAF teams. Not that I am hoping for that to happen, but it would be interesting to see how it ends. In tournaments it is often difficult to judge as the luck factor can play quite the role although Europe has been dominating for the last two decades.

Well, the important thing here is to know how it can be done in order to have a better vision of everything, clearly the teams and Leagues in Europe are more supported, the strong publicity is in that part of the world, when we talk about fútbol in general it is known that in Europe as in any part of the world when Brazil and Argentina are the closest References to being the toughest rivals that exist in South America, from Concacaf I cannot deny that Mexico is the best,but like everything it is a business model , Europe has very good and strong infrastructures, this is also something that cannot be denied, perhaps that is why the largest capital of fútbol clubs are there.

It is a cultural thing combined with wealth. If the South American nations were as rich as the European continent is, perhaps more eyes would be directed towards the South American continent. But in Europe is the soccer culture as much as in the USA is the baseball, football, basketball culture. The people are relatively rich and have a lot of disposable income that can be spent on merchandise, tv subscriptions, stadium entry fees and whatever you can think of. If you take all these factors together it is not surprising that the big soccer stage is in Europe.

I think such a competition as suggested would be interesting to watch, but I must confess that the meaningfulness would also be limited because all the South American players are actually competing in European leagues for a reason. It would be interesting to see what happens if for two decades all the best European players move to South America and all the Brazilian and Argentinian etc players are exposed to the hardest competition possible for an extended period of time.

It is all hypothetical, but when we talk about pure talent, like talent only, I believe that South America is the best in the world.

[LUCKMCFLY]

It's a great thread, I like the importance that is being given to South American football, also the fact of having 6 Concacaf teams is something quite good, before they only invited Mexico and it was very good, now the Copa América will last longer time and it will be more exciting, it is also good to integrate the close confederations and with that you can see the high level that can be measured, many say that the Euroeas qualifiers are the strongest, but nothing to see, you have to see the South American qualifiers, where The players have hot weather one day and the next day they have to be at a high altitude where it is difficult to breathe, it is like playing in Barranquilla (Colombia, very hot) and then the next day they go to Bolivia in La Paz (very high), that affects.

The weather is certainly one important aspect to consider and that might also be a reason why over the decades the best soccer infrastructure in the world was established in Europe. But nobody really doubts that South American soccer players can be the best of the best obviously, but the leagues aren't really. The big stuff happens in Europe and that is why every single South American superstar ends up playing for a team in Europe.

Though I fully agree that putting more emphasis on that part of the world and also to funnel more money to that part (hopefully) due to drawing more attention to it does help a lot with providing young talents with better chances to make it as a professional soccer player.

The only way to find out which part of the world is better (Europe vs. CONCACAF) would be to have a league with the six best European countries against the six best CONCACAF teams. Not that I am hoping for that to happen, but it would be interesting to see how it ends. In tournaments it is often difficult to judge as the luck factor can play quite the role although Europe has been dominating for the last two decades.

Well, the important thing here is to know how it can be done in order to have a better vision of everything, clearly the teams and Leagues in Europe are more supported, the strong publicity is in that part of the world, when we talk about fútbol in general it is known that in Europe as in any part of the world when Brazil and Argentina are the closest References to being the toughest rivals that exist in South America, from Concacaf I cannot deny that Mexico is the best,but like everything it is a business model , Europe has very good and strong infrastructures, this is also something that cannot be denied, perhaps that is why the largest capital of fútbol clubs are there.

It is a cultural thing combined with wealth. If the South American nations were as rich as the European continent is, perhaps more eyes would be directed towards the South American continent. But in Europe is the soccer culture as much as in the USA is the baseball, football, basketball culture. The people are relatively rich and have a lot of disposable income that can be spent on merchandise, tv subscriptions, stadium entry fees and whatever you can think of. If you take all these factors together it is not surprising that the big soccer stage is in Europe.

I think such a competition as suggested would be interesting to watch, but I must confess that the meaningfulness would also be limited because all the South American players are actually competing in European leagues for a reason. It would be interesting to see what happens if for two decades all the best European players move to South America and all the Brazilian and Argentinian etc players are exposed to the hardest competition possible for an extended period of time.

It is all hypothetical, but when we talk about pure talent, like talent only, I believe that South America is the best in the world.

If this is partly so, this is without mentioning that a large part of Europe has been rich thanks to South America since the time of Christopher Columbus and what few know is that many fossils are still being found in South America that are rich in gold, silver, bauxite that they continue to be exploited (but in a bad way thanks to the mismanagement of the governments) however what you say is very true, most of the money comes from there, and that is something that has a lot to do with the sponsors who always leave to Europe, for example in Brazilian fútbol, if they gave it more support in terms of very large sponsors,many players would go there, not only because of their fans, but also to absorb the exquisite Brazilian technique.

[Renampun]

If this is partly so, this is without mentioning that a large part of Europe has been rich thanks to South America since the time of Christopher Columbus and what few know is that many fossils are still being found in South America that are rich in gold, silver, bauxite that they continue to be exploited (but in a bad way thanks to the mismanagement of the governments) however what you say is very true, most of the money comes from there, and that is something that has a lot to do with the sponsors who always leave to Europe, for example in Brazilian fútbol, if they gave it more support in terms of very large sponsors,many players would go there, not only because of their fans, but also to absorb the exquisite Brazilian technique.

an realistic football player, having a big name only in their country (football players in Brazil or Argentina) is useless so when there is a sponsor or scout who finds young talent, they will immediately accept the offer and go to Europe to develop and become bigger and famous there. Young talent can be found in Latin American countries (brazil - argentina - uruguay has more young talent there).

discussing teams that have the potential to become champions in the 2024 Copa America, I see many who choose Brazil or Argentina but teams like Mexico - Uruguay - Chile can give a big surprise.

[Sirait]

UEFA and Conmebol came to an agreement for the next Copa America which will be held in 2024 as the name of 2024 Copa America, whereas Puru and Bolivia are reported as all possible choices for Copa America 2024.. The host for Copa America is not yet decided, However, CONMEBOL president Alejandro Dominguez said that there is hope that Ecuador will host the upcoming tournament. There have been two teams nominated Ecuador and Peru but not yet been decided who will host the tournament.

https://www.fifaworldcupnews.com/2024-copa-america/

When idly looking for news about Copa America 2024, I was quite surprised to read that until now I have not decided on the host for this event. peru, ecuador and bolivia are some of the qualifying countries and hopefully we can hear soon which countries are shortlisted.

[rdluffy]

I have news to post here

Today CONMEBOL officially announced the dates for Copa America 2024
The tournament will be held between June 20th and July 14th 2024.
Exactly 1 year from now (now 364 days hehe)

The host cities for the tournament have not been defined yet.
Another thing that is pending are the 6 CONCACAF teams that will only be known in September with the CONCACAF Nations League.

The dates are very close to the Euro 2024 (June 14th to July 14th)

[rdluffy]

Guys, yesterday I saw the official logo of Copa America 2024:



The explanation:


In my opinion it is MUCH prettier than the 2026 World Cup logo (If you haven't seen the world cup logo yet, do so and then compare the two logos)
They could use this logo for the world cup too hahaha
I liked the elements contained in the logo, the colors and the fonts used, they did a good job
What do you think guys?

[Sithara007]

I am not surprised with the decision from CONMEBOL to expand the Copa America tournament. The general trend in recent times have been to expand different international competitions and to add more matches. FIFA World Cup for example, have been expanded to 48 teams from 32. And the number of teams looks OK to me. 10 teams will be from CONMEBOL (all the CONMEBOL members), while 6 teams will participate from CONCACAF (out of 41 member associations). The split looks right for me, given that CONMEBOL teams are much stronger than any of the CONCACAF members.

[borovichok]

an realistic football player, having a big name only in their country (football players in Brazil or Argentina) is useless so when there is a sponsor or scout who finds young talent, they will immediately accept the offer and go to Europe to develop and become bigger and famous there. Young talent can be found in Latin American countries (brazil - argentina - uruguay has more young talent there).

discussing teams that have the potential to become champions in the 2024 Copa America, I see many who choose Brazil or Argentina but teams like Mexico - Uruguay - Chile can give a big surprise.

These countries have good set of top talents, they're hidden and they always display brilliantly when they are given the chances. Nothing is impossible in football; I've seen a tender player handle places in a club's engine room and seasoned players turn out to be a total washout. Players with good football abilities will undoubtedly seal the deal from elite clubs with huge offers that will rewrite the entire statistical football history. It's incredibly exciting to see new football players blossom into household names. The Copa America in 2024 would be a challenging battle, and I would pick Brazil and Argentina as favorites to win the title.

[Renampun]

Guys, yesterday I saw the official logo of Copa America 2024:



The explanation:


In my opinion it is MUCH prettier than the 2026 World Cup logo (If you haven't seen the world cup logo yet, do so and then compare the two logos)
They could use this logo for the world cup too hahaha
I liked the elements contained in the logo, the colors and the fonts used, they did a good job
What do you think guys?

I also really like the logo for the 2024 Copa America (because it looks simple with only 4 color combinations) rather than the 2026 World Cup logo (which has a combination of more than 4 colors)

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These countries have good set of top talents, they're hidden and they always display brilliantly when they are given the chances. Nothing is impossible in football; I've seen a tender player handle places in a club's engine room and seasoned players turn out to be a total washout. Players with good football abilities will undoubtedly seal the deal from elite clubs with huge offers that will rewrite the entire statistical football history. It's incredibly exciting to see new football players blossom into household names. The Copa America in 2024 would be a challenging battle, and I would pick Brazil and Argentina as favorites to win the title.

Yup, Argentina is a country that is predicted to be the champion in the Copa America 2024, but what I have noticed is that Argentina is focusing more on senior players than young players. Reportedly, di Maria will also retire after the Copa America 2024, which means she won't play in the 2026 World Cup, would Messi do something like that too!!

[rdluffy]

Hey everyone, CONMEBOL has announced the venues for the opening match and the grand final

Atlanta, Florida, will host the opening match at Mercedes-Benz Stadium on June 20 and the Grand Final will be held in Miami at HardRock Stadium on July 14.


Atlanta


Miami



Source of pics
Source of news


The United States and Panama have already qualified for the Copa America, along with the 10 CONMEBOL teams.
There are still 4 spots up for dispute in CONCACAF

[rdluffy]

Nobody excited with Copa America 

Yesterday we had more good news:

CONMEBOL announced the 14 cities that will host the cup


Source


The seeds have also been decided and the teams have been divided into these groups for the draw:


Source

Remember that the draw will take place on Thursday 07th

Will we have a group of death?