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March 23, 2023, 02:39:46 AM
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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?



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March 23, 2023, 02:57:55 AM
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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
In fact, casinos don't deceive friends, it happens in gambling, it's natural because you play against the system, so whatever you do, you can only lose, unless luck is on your side.
Try to play gambling with a limited amount, if you can get wins more often, you can actually use it to make consistent profits.
But keep in mind to gamble according to your ability and control yourself so you don't get carried away by emotions when playing so that when gambling with a happy mind and heart you can more easily be able to play well.

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March 23, 2023, 03:04:18 AM
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Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…

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March 23, 2023, 03:16:17 AM
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I don't think that is called cheating. That is called probability! The house knows that you will start with small bets and gradually move into big amount. When you place a big bet after winning small bets they would make you lose. This why you always need to be inconsistent while placing bets. Sometimes it works and most of the time it won't. Always remember in the end the casino will always win.

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March 23, 2023, 03:17:06 AM
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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
In fact, casinos don't deceive friends, it happens in gambling, it's natural because you play against the system, so whatever you do, you can only lose, unless luck is on your side.
Try to play gambling with a limited amount, if you can get wins more often, you can actually use it to make consistent profits.
But keep in mind to gamble according to your ability and control yourself so you don't get carried away by emotions when playing so that when gambling with a happy mind and heart you can more easily be able to play well.
Bye we play against a system that makes us suspect that there is some hidden code in their algorithm that is fooling us. Yes gambling must be played for entertainment and I have been using gambling as entertainment for a long time but yesterday I went there with a large amount and noticed these. I always gamble with a cool head but what can I do when the system deals me the wrong card?  Is there any user hand here? And how can I make sure that the system is giving me random cards and he is taking random cards himself

Could be. However I don’t think any reputable casino needs these kinds of tricks to win our money. I think you were just unlucky. I know it because these big casinos are almost always use the same provable fair betting system where you can verify your seed/roll. If they were scamming us someone would have noticed it long time ago. The situation might be different on the newly established smaller online casinos though. Who knows what filth is hidden in their code…
I prefer to gamble at trusted casino sites.  And I played Blackjack with Stake.com yesterday. And I know this site as a trusted site.  And they have been campaigning on this forum for a long time. I think they are involved in some fraud.  If not why are the reputable members of this forum not promoting the stake.com signature where there are always open slots in this campaign?



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March 23, 2023, 03:44:18 AM
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I think it is not cheating but it is the system that sets regarding that as I also noticed this in the beginning but eventually ? i understand that  when you are lucky ? there is nothing that can deny you from winning mate so yeah it is not literally a cheating but their way to win against us.
and i also believe that good site will ever have to do this when they are surely winning against every gambler in all forms.

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Perhaps it has something to do with past results, especially if during the game, your previous bets resulted in consistent small wins which influenced your confidence to bet big without realizing that the house is primarily designed against you. Essentially, you are being blinded by small consecutive wins.

At the end of the day, it is still a game of chance and luck, and the only way to go is proper "risk management."

If not why are the reputable members of this forum not promoting the stake.com signature where there are always open slots in this campaign?
One reason maybe is they require a lot of post count while being underpaid in which most members disagree with.

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March 23, 2023, 04:22:19 AM
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Bye we play against a system that makes us suspect that there is some hidden code in their algorithm that is fooling us. Yes gambling must be played for entertainment and I have been using gambling as entertainment for a long time but yesterday I went there with a large amount and noticed these. I always gamble with a cool head but what can I do when the system deals me the wrong card?  Is there any user hand here? And how can I make sure that the system is giving me random cards and he is taking random cards himself

If you play a game which has provably fair system and if you understand how to verify your bets, you can check if the casino do something bad with your bet or not. You cant judge a casino is fooling you by comparing the result of your small bet vs big bet. Anyway, this is not the first time I read a gambler who think that a casino is cheating just because he/she win with small bets but lose with bigger bets. If you want to make sure yourself of the fairness in your bet, go find casino with provably fair system so you can always verify your bet result.

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March 23, 2023, 04:31:32 AM
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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

The feeling you have is quite common but it is nothing more than a feeling. Almost all the casinos that advertise on the forum are trusted and don't rip you off because they make enough money doing things legitimately. What you say is probably just a coincidence of short term results. When you talk about 'always' that I have put in bold, what sample results are we talking about? Millions? Surely not. Another thing that tends to happen is that when we bet large amounts it is scary money for us and we change the way we bet as well as being more sensitive to the results.


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March 23, 2023, 04:56:12 AM
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I prefer to gamble at trusted casino sites.  And I played Blackjack with Stake.com yesterday. And I know this site as a trusted site.  And they have been campaigning on this forum for a long time. I think they are involved in some fraud.  If not why are the reputable members of this forum not promoting the stake.com signature where there are always open slots in this campaign?
If you think they're involved in fraud to make you lose, you can create a new thread in scam accusations section, I believe people will defend on stake and no one trust you except trolls Grin

There's no fraud in Stake, you're just unlucky during played Blackjack, as you said you've won when you're use small amount, but you're lose when you're use big amount money. You will not always win and you will not always lose in gambling.

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March 23, 2023, 05:01:57 AM
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I think it's just a coincidence, maybe you should try it by playing using the same bet value in each round, so you can do another evaluation. Casinos already have HE and without cheating they already get big profits with the setting of the HE, and do bad things in their games to get even bigger profits. I think that casinos that already have big names will not do this, maybe it could happen to a new casino or a casino that was made for the sole purpose of deceiving, but with the amount of money you use to play you should play at a trusted casino so you don't experience what you think is really happening. Casinos that are built to actually survive in this tight industry won't go under by cheating, it will only cost them players, and ultimately destroy their business.

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March 23, 2023, 05:05:44 AM
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if you feel being cheated when you bet bigger then stop putting high bets  Grin Grin

this is business so what kind of business will love to pay higher ? meaning it is being installed in their system , and also the reason why there are only few chances that a gambler can win too much .

Look at the lottery . while they are promising super high wins? yet the system to win is really hard and sometimes each draw brings no winner for jackpot and that comes a million ways to lose but a single chance to win.

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Of course, the old proven casinos that use the provable fairness algorithm are unlikely to deliberately make small bets for the most part winning, and large bets losing.  But OP certainly should write here why he decided to take a chance and play with a rather large amount of $1K.  After all, OP used to play with small amounts?  It would be better if you continued to play with small amounts and there would be a balance of wins / losses.  I think that this is the OP's mistake, who took a risk and lost, which generally happens with a probability of 50/50. I don't think that such casinos have introduced elements of fraud into the algorithm.  And, by the way, other regular players of this casino would have noticed this long ago. 
I still do not rule out that this topic and similar ones, the same accusations against a certain casino can be created in order to create anti-advertising for this particular casino. Smiley

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March 23, 2023, 05:49:44 AM
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In this regard you missed an opportunity though. Since you say that you win by betting with small amounts. I think you should have played with smaller amounts. However, no such complaint was found on any reputable site. When you bet more, your luck doesn't favor you. Or it could be that the site is cheating you. But for this you must collect proper evidence. Otherwise you cannot take any action against them. If your doubt is strong and you can't gather any evidence, you may be better off choosing another good site.

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March 23, 2023, 06:00:47 AM
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Games that are having an EV negative will always have a long term loss profil, because of the house edge and because players never stop after a net win/profit.

If you think a casino is cheating you, verify its provably fair algorithm yourself. If you are confused how to do this, do some searching on YouTube.

In either case, the reputed long time running casios would not cheat you because have many forum users here who are well accustomed with this system and actively seek out casinos and their algos for bugs and possibl exploits.

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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

It's really hard to proved it casinos are cheating, but we all know that they have the edge, so it might be the case that you are getting. Or maybe luck in not on your side when you bet huge money. Unless you can check everything and set that they are changing the seed, hence they make you lose.

And so you might have that kind of feeling that you are being cheated, but if there's no proved at all then there's nothing we can do.

Too bad to here that you have lost $1k, that is a huge amount.

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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?
Listen to yourself, if small amount is what keeps bringing you a good fortune then accept your luck, I thought it's always a good thing to use a small amount of money for gambling, the only way to lower your loss is by using a small amount of money.

Also, some online gambling platforms will try to wake the greediness in their players, making them win with small amounts so that they can get greedy and retry again with Big amount of money, this is common sense, think about it, why win only when you play with a small amount? You are not alone.

A smart gambler would have known how the platform is operating, and have some laughs about it, but keep playing with small amount, since that's the only assured way to win on such a platform.

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March 23, 2023, 06:49:24 AM
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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.

Change the casino that you're using to bet, maybe their systems isn't fair and they have manipulated it so they win when you bet big and they lose when you bet small to encourage you to bet more so they make profits from you. But if you try some other casino and the returns come out the same then note that your lucks are on small bets.

There's nothing wrong in betting small and winning, keep doing that and you might accumulate enough money for yourself. Don't be greedy and increase your staking amount, already you have seen that it doesn't work out for you so continue betting small and win.

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March 23, 2023, 06:59:53 AM
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I think it is not the casino or may be let's put it the way OP asks here,they do "cheat" us but only thanks to the provider of the games the casino offers to us.I will make you a personal example and despite not being Blackjack but slot machines the analogy is almost the same,the moment I was playing with minimal bet the slot machine kept giving me profit,getting near 200 dollars in profit with 0.10 dollar bet is a good achievement for my standard but you start getting bored because it takes a lot more time to grow your balance further.In this case it is in our DNA-human nature that we want to get more and more profit and we raise the bet,that is an extreme error which 100% of the times has brought me to 0 balance.

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Most of the time I play Blackjack & Dice.  I have always noticed that when I bet a large amount I am a loser when it comes to Dice.  Also in case of Blackjack when I bet big amount I get wrong card due to which I lose the bet. On the other hand when I bet small amount I win in case of Dice and if I bet small amount multiple times I win multiple times.  In Blackjack, when I bet small amounts, I am always get good cards and win the bets. Thus the cycle continues.  I have noticed that it is not an easy thing to withdraw from having achieved something great. I always gamble for fun with small amounts and lose them but I don't care. But I started playing blackjack yesterday with $1k and noticed that the casino sites are somehow cheating us. I lost my $1k yesterday. through Blackjack. What do you think about casino site algorithms?  Are they cheating with us?

I'm not sure I can give you a good answer, but I myself have no doubts about the algorithms of some online gambling sites at the moment (I'm not sure they are cheating us), claims probably fair may be a little doubtful for players, but when you play, you must be fully aware that you can lose all your money, so it's all your responsibility. My advice is if you really doubt the algorithm of a gambling site, then play with small capital, don't try to put big capital in your game, especially if it's a slot or dice game.



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