Virtual Betting/ Real bet

[Issa56]

Am not really the type that's into virtual betting, I have tried it few times before but I notice virtual betting is not for me, it's really easy to lose money in virtual betting and it's really easy to get addicted to so i believe virtual betting is not really for me, I have seen lot's of people wasting lots of money within few minutes on virtual betting.

I don't really know much about virtual betting so I don't really know how it's been manipulated, if you mean the odds were changing when you wanted to place your bet I think it's normal, the more matches are going, the more Odds are changing, odds are not always stable.

[livingfree]

When the results aren't in our favor, we think that there's something wrong with the pattern or algorithm of the casino regardless of what type of games we've played.

As for virtual betting, I don't bet on it but I do understand where you're coming from since the game is likely from the provider of the casino and what we're thinking is that they could modify some of its play and be in favor of them.

Something like that but there could be a way to verify bets and plays there, right?

[harizen]

Last night was trying to bet on live matches (Sports betting) although most of the matches already started running and while some have few minutes to start, after selecting about 10 to 15 matches to place my bet it was a bit difficult due to odds were dropping as well changing so I managed to place the bet and it went successfully.

Obviously, expect that placing a bet for about 10 to 15 parlay legs in a "LIVE BET" might have difficulty placing since odds are changing often even for a bit second. Lots of sequences on those events are happening even while you are choosing your bet, as it was a live game.

For me, if you are the type of bettor that really preferred betting on a such number of parlay legs, better to place it on pre-game instead.

After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

There is no manipulation but unfortunately, you just didn't nail it. Why they should manipulate the results?

The system is RNG. You just really need some luck to win there. Why not try another one and see how good your overall stats in the long run?

[DoublerHunter]

As far as I know vfootball matches change based on a couple parameters, as well as randomized events and such and such that causes odds in between games to change drastically. No manipulation is at play in between games so there's no reason for you to think that the casino is working against you. If you're not that comfortable playing with vfootball I suggest you switch up games so you don't feel like you're being cheated on everytime you play a game.

^ I dont even know how it will work vfootball is and that is why betting on a real game will always be a good sport and good odds. It feels the same either, it seems this kind of sport can be doubtful into a fixed match game and it is possible. If you feel this way, switching to a real match could be better but if not, continue placing bets on vfootball.

[Saint-loup]

My little experience while trying to look compare these two types of bets
I could be right or wrong maybe you can share your own experience to know how it goes.

Last night was trying to bet on live matches (Sports betting) although most of the matches already started running and while some have few minutes to start, after selecting about 10 to 15 matches to place my bet it was a bit difficult due to odds were dropping as well changing so I managed to place the bet and it went successfully.

After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?
Though i don't know if this thread already created, If yes then ref here i would be happy to locking this thread.

I don't trust very much those games to be honest, because AFAIK there is no way to see an history of the results of the matches and to watch/follow the games at an independent third party website. Hence, they could generate the results based on the bets placed by the players. For example if the biggest amount is placed on Team A, they could can make winning Team B. It would be easy money. So I prefer playing live casino games or provably fair ones instead.

[Sandra_hakeem]

There's no manipulation - as to the odds and potential win, nothing changes....what looks manipulated somehow is how the whole games changes against you when you've been sure to have them the other way -- in your favor (I meant to say).
I'll prefer the live bet, mostly popular European games because it can't get manipulated in anyway, so all you have to do is - make sure to have a good contrast between the two teams, and with the little or vast experience that you've got, you MIGHT hit your target,... everything depends on how lucky you are, friend.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[DaNNy001]

Am a fanatic of vfootball, since its easily and readily decided within minutes, although its a hard sport because all the outcomes to the different games have been fixed so its either you loose or you win, it all based on how lucky you are, although if you are always constant on playing vfootball, you would have noticed some repetition of same scoreline on certain score but the problem how do you know when the same scoreline is going to pop up. So I guess it just about how lucky you are at the end of everything and the worst part of this gamble is that you can loose a lot in just few minutes.

[qwertyup23]

vBetting is programmed betting, compared to real bet. Off course, how the house edge ended is always to make the casino profit. People are gonna to more playing in real bet rather than vBetting.

I know, cause I also sometimes playing like Virtual Blackjack from Evolution Game ~LOL and yeah, feel like rigged deck or system ~XD not make senses for the result.

As far as I know, virtual betting is a game where predetermined results are possible but what makes it random is the number generator to determine the winner. In a way, the AI already knows who the winner but a random number generator (RNG) makes it random in a way.

To maximize results, I would personally bet on real games where outcome is dependent on the choices that you make. Relying completely on an AI result is something that can potentially be risky on your part.

[romero121]

vBetting is programmed betting, compared to real bet. Off course, how the house edge ended is always to make the casino profit. People are gonna to more playing in real bet rather than vBetting.

I know, cause I also sometimes playing like Virtual Blackjack from Evolution Game ~LOL and yeah, feel like rigged deck or system ~XD not make senses for the result.

As far as I know, virtual betting is a game where predetermined results are possible but what makes it random is the number generator to determine the winner. In a way, the AI already knows who the winner but a random number generator (RNG) makes it random in a way.

To maximize results, I would personally bet on real games where outcome is dependent on the choices that you make. Relying completely on an AI result is something that can potentially be risky on your part.

Yes, through random number generator this works. Mostly this RNG will be in favour of the casino to bring profit and the house edge will be accordingly. It is really hard to have a proof that the sport is being manipulated.

As mentioned when there is more games available what's the need to spend on something that relies completely on pre programmed things. If not, just as fun need to spend little by little, and enjoy the game.

[AmoreJaz]

Am not really the type that's into virtual betting, I have tried it few times before but I notice virtual betting is not for me, it's really easy to lose money in virtual betting and it's really easy to get addicted to so i believe virtual betting is not really for me, I have seen lot's of people wasting lots of money within few minutes on virtual betting.

I don't really know much about virtual betting so I don't really know how it's been manipulated, if you mean the odds were changing when you wanted to place your bet I think it's normal, the more matches are going, the more Odds are changing, odds are not always stable.

if you are really not prepared to get into this kind of betting, better not start. as you said, it is addictive. if there's manipulation going on. remember, people will always talk and such cheating would be known. so if there's no noise yet, it means, no one is cheating or the cheating has not been discovered yet.

[Adbitco]

You can't compare virtual betting to real betting, there's this bad spirit that follows that type of Betting in some points whenever you are trying to get a win you endings up making lots of lost and it's very have a winning over there than normal betting. Betting on live matches most at times is very good but the chance of your odd get large is very small since is live, they changes as the games keeps running and could be very hard to place a smooth bet.

[traderethereum]

I don't know whether there was manipulation or not in that bet because even if there was manipulation, how can we prove it?
I'd rather bet on a sport I can participate in than have to think about whether there's manipulation or the match is really fair.
If you enjoy betting on gambling, you shouldn't have to think about things like manipulation, cheating, or other things.
That way, you will not feel disappointed if you experience a big or small loss.

[Silberman]

Am not really the type that's into virtual betting, I have tried it few times before but I notice virtual betting is not for me, it's really easy to lose money in virtual betting and it's really easy to get addicted to so i believe virtual betting is not really for me, I have seen lot's of people wasting lots of money within few minutes on virtual betting.

I don't really know much about virtual betting so I don't really know how it's been manipulated, if you mean the odds were changing when you wanted to place your bet I think it's normal, the more matches are going, the more Odds are changing, odds are not always stable.

if you are really not prepared to get into this kind of betting, better not start. as you said, it is addictive. if there's manipulation going on. remember, people will always talk and such cheating would be known. so if there's no noise yet, it means, no one is cheating or the cheating has not been discovered yet.

It is better that people stay away from virtual sport bets, if predicting a sport match is already hard and you need to take countless factors just to try to determine who could win, this is taken to another level with virtual sports which can simulate any team playing at any time at any circumstances, besides unlike sports bets it does not seem as if you have any chance of beating the casino when making those bets, which is yet another reason to not consider it and instead make traditional sport bets.

[len01]

My little experience while trying to look compare these two types of bets
I could be right or wrong maybe you can share your own experience to know how it goes.

Last night was trying to bet on live matches (Sports betting) although most of the matches already started running and while some have few minutes to start, after selecting about 10 to 15 matches to place my bet it was a bit difficult due to odds were dropping as well changing so I managed to place the bet and it went successfully.

After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?
Though i don't know if this thread already created, If yes then ref here i would be happy to locking this thread.

In virtual football betting, bookies can manipulate it, but this rarely happens in popular casinos, and if a match is in progress, it's not being manipulated, but the exact odds are always changing.
I myself very rarely bet on virtual football, preferring live soccer betting, which is more predictable with all the research on the team to be selected, rather than predicting virtual soccer betting, which is difficult to predict.

[bitbollo]

I would NEVER bet on a virtual event because it is not based on anything real and any prediction is purely based on chance.
in short, a waste of time and perhaps of money.
It's sure to be fun, with loads of events to play at any time, but the lack of history or real differences makes it a poor example of betting in my opinion.

[Wexnident]

After few minutes I decide to take a look into vFootball i could also get some winning over there, Surprisingly i was wipe with their manipulation at this point i just have to quick to wait for the previously bet matches to finished running.

Have you experience the manipulations over vFootball betting?
Though i don't know if this thread already created, If yes then ref here i would be happy to locking this thread.

This is just an assumption though, it's nothing concrete since it's we only have your word for it (and people would be rather dumb if they took the words of an internet stranger as a fact immediately). Honestly though I don't know why you'd bet on Virtual sports, they're basically a simulation and there's nothing really fun about it AND you can't exactly help but assume of manipulation (we'll never know though tbf) since as I said, it's just a simulation.

Can't exactly say whether I've experienced manipulation in virtual bets, on some matches yes, local ones, but other than those then not really.

[kryptqnick]

I try live betting occasionally because sometimes it feels easier to predict the outcome of the match once some time has passed and you see how it's going. But yeah, a hard part is that the odds sometimes change very fast and it can can a couple of tries to approve the bet (because you want to place the bet but while you're choosing the amount you're betting and other similar things, the odds can change and you then need to reconfirm the bet). It's not scamming, it's not manipulations. And it's also not about virtual vs real betting as much as it is about live betting. I didn't have experience where the odds changed so drastically that I wouldn't want to make a bet (if it's over a very short period of time), so I was okay with seeing the opinion sway, basically, and the odds adjusting.
If you are referring by vFootball to virtual (simulated) games and bets on them, I don't think there's any evidence that it was manipulated either, at least not from the original post in the thread. I prefer betting on real events, though, as I think the way humans really interact on the field during the match is more interesting than an AI simulated game and outcome.

[maydna]

I've never bet on vFootball before and prefer real betting because it can be curious to be able to get more info. I also don't know if there was any manipulation in the virtual betting but it's possible that manipulation could have occurred because the matches weren't real matches either. Perhaps, you need to try real betting and feel a different experience from betting on virtual betting. And I think you will find things that can make you prefer real betting because there is a curiosity factor about the team that managed to win over their opponent.

[Zackgeno96]

I also don't know to what extent you can successfully bet on matches that are VR or simulated. In any case, I don't think it's something you can have any sort of control over. There is no live stream and you cannot see how the match progresses. In principle you don't have that with real matches with real people, but the difference is that a live stream is available and that you know that it is not just software. There are people who do gamble on virtual games, but I don't see the point of that. I don't even know what those quotes are based on. The similarity in both cases is that as a gambler you have no influence whatsoever and are dependent on the system.

[serjent05]

I also don't know to what extent you can successfully bet on matches that are VR or simulated. In any case, I don't think it's something you can have any sort of control over. There is no live stream and you cannot see how the match progresses. In principle you don't have that with real matches with real people, but the difference is that a live stream is available and that you know that it is not just software. There are people who do gamble on virtual games, but I don't see the point of that. I don't even know what those quotes are based on. The similarity in both cases is that as a gambler you have no influence whatsoever and are dependent on the system.

Virtual betting is something like slots.  They have predetermined result and is affected by random number generator.  So I think this type of betting falls under luck-based game.  It is true that no matter how skilled we are in sposts betting, we can never have any sort of control in virtual betting because as I stated, the gameplay is fictional and is generated by machines and not performed by actual players.  The only control the player has his is over his bankroll, the amount he will wager, and choosing the possible winning team.

It is very clear the difference between real sports betting and virtual sports betting.  One is predetermined (virtual betting) while the other one is not and is dependent on the performance of the actual team competing.