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April 10, 2023, 01:54:12 PM
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The world is already embracing technology in all spheres, including health, agriculture, finance, transportation, and many others. Now, when it comes to AI and automation, most machine designs only require operators to send commands and the task will be completed and most importantly, it reduces the costs of employing people but even at that where do we expect these individuals to feed so it has its own disadvantage, many will be losing their jobs. the best thing for young people now is to go into tech. and since it's good but the impact is severe on the people.

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April 10, 2023, 04:27:48 PM
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The world is already embracing technology in all spheres, including health, agriculture, finance, transportation, and many others. Now, when it comes to AI and automation, most machine designs only require operators to send commands and the task will be completed and most importantly, it reduces the costs of employing people but even at that where do we expect these individuals to feed so it has its own disadvantage, many will be losing their jobs. the best thing for young people now is to go into tech. and since it's good but the impact is severe on the people.
I'd say it will just be an easier way for workers and employees to accomplish the job and not a total replacement on their end. Decision making, empathy, and other skills which requires thinking are functions a human have while AI don't. They do have the information but things won't work that easily for these projects to function alone. The goal of technological advancements is simple to ease our way of living and AI projects are simply part of technological revolution. What is happening right now might be overseeing what will happen wherein in the first place, economies won't allow people to stop working simply because economies won't run without people's money and taxes. There'll be just changes more likely.

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April 10, 2023, 05:48:43 PM
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The world is already embracing technology in all spheres, including health, agriculture, finance, transportation, and many others. Now, when it comes to AI and automation, most machine designs only require operators to send commands and the task will be completed and most importantly, it reduces the costs of employing people but even at that where do we expect these individuals to feed so it has its own disadvantage, many will be losing their jobs. the best thing for young people now is to go into tech. and since it's good but the impact is severe on the people.
Actually, it already happen years ago it is just that this time many businesses and people accepts technology and embrace the fact that we are having a advanced technology that can help our daily lives. Yes in our company we will be having layoff, I think it is partially related to the rise of AI and Machine Learning what important most is because this thing happen people in our field step up and starting to grow their skills.
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April 16, 2023, 05:48:01 PM
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It's kinda sad that this is really like an inevitable things to happen since tech is evolving anyway. I recall some news about that new Mcdonald's restaurant even opening that has no employee and imagine if such layoffs happened to those fast food chain since every processes were being automated already.

Even tech giants are now doing layoffs, but it is not due to AI yet I believe. Devs are ironically laying themselves off their jobs as they develop the one that replaces them, although I do have some few doubts that AI will replace devs though.
The craze for AI is very recent, but AI has been with us for a very long time and it is everywhere, they are trading the markets, playing chess and other board games, offering movie or product recommendations at Netflix or Amazon, piloting planes and soon enough they will drive our cars and do many other things, and in fact there are already some AI which develop software and which can even make inventions, so the developers can in fact be replaced and a great deal of the human population may find themselves replaced one day by AI as well.
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April 17, 2023, 08:04:46 AM
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The world is already embracing technology in all spheres, including health, agriculture, finance, transportation, and many others. Now, when it comes to AI and automation, most machine designs only require operators to send commands and the task will be completed and most importantly, it reduces the costs of employing people but even at that where do we expect these individuals to feed so it has its own disadvantage, many will be losing their jobs. the best thing for young people now is to go into tech. and since it's good but the impact is severe on the people.
I'd say it will just be an easier way for workers and employees to accomplish the job and not a total replacement on their end. Decision making, empathy, and other skills which requires thinking are functions a human have while AI don't. They do have the information but things won't work that easily for these projects to function alone. The goal of technological advancements is simple to ease our way of living and AI projects are simply part of technological revolution. What is happening right now might be overseeing what will happen wherein in the first place, economies won't allow people to stop working simply because economies won't run without people's money and taxes. There'll be just changes more likely.

I agree since the way I see AI and automation is that it only would make the process be much easy to do rather than replace the people who supposed to be doing. Based on how I see the recent advancement on these, we cannot deny that some industries would rather choose this automated process since this would make the cost less. But, as of now, I cannot see it to fully replace workers since these technologies have not been proven to be effective in the long run. It will be a long way to go to be fully adapted by majority. Human workers are still much ahead than AI since we have the capacity to think and acquire skills that is very useful in the business processes.
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April 17, 2023, 09:38:59 AM
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It's kinda sad that this is really like an inevitable things to happen since tech is evolving anyway. I recall some news about that new Mcdonald's restaurant even opening that has no employee and imagine if such layoffs happened to those fast food chain since every processes were being automated already.

Even tech giants are now doing layoffs, but it is not due to AI yet I believe. Devs are ironically laying themselves off their jobs as they develop the one that replaces them, although I do have some few doubts that AI will replace devs though.
The craze for AI is very recent, but AI has been with us for a very long time and it is everywhere, they are trading the markets, playing chess and other board games, offering movie or product recommendations at Netflix or Amazon, piloting planes and soon enough they will drive our cars and do many other things, and in fact there are already some AI which develop software and which can even make inventions, so the developers can in fact be replaced and a great deal of the human population may find themselves replaced one day by AI as well.

    -   You mentioned this right, because most people around the world don't notice this AI, more than decades actually, it's just like google has this AI but it didn't become noisy like what is happening now here in the crypto space which has become noisy it's just recently.

In fact, I don't pay much attention to it either, maybe let's just say that there are others who really get our attention but it doesn't mean that in the future we will be robbed of the wash because AI can do it.

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April 17, 2023, 10:06:45 AM
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As jobs change, workers will need to develop new skills to remain competitive in the workforce.

AI could also develop new skills, which means that the workers have to develop more new skills, but AI will eventually always beat them at learning and developing new skills. This seems like an absurd downward spiral, where the people cannot compete against the machines.
The only solution would be to put enough control over AI, so that the people could preserve their jobs. Or maybe AI is a step ahead to a future with universal basic income, where AI robots will do all the work, while the people could just live their lives without having to work and consuming the goods they get from AI robots for free(or by spending their universal basic income). I know it sounds ridiculous, but who knows what will happen in the future.

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As jobs change, workers will need to develop new skills to remain competitive in the workforce.

AI could also develop new skills, which means that the workers have to develop more new skills, but AI will eventually always beat them at learning and developing new skills. This seems like an absurd downward spiral, where the people cannot compete against the machines.
The only solution would be to put enough control over AI, so that the people could preserve their jobs. Or maybe AI is a step ahead to a future with universal basic income, where AI robots will do all the work, while the people could just live their lives without having to work and consuming the goods they get from AI robots for free(or by spending their universal basic income). I know it sounds ridiculous, but who knows what will happen in the future.
That's like a utopia if that ever happens that we humans will just have to accept universal basic income and these AIs and robots are the ones that will work for us.

IIRC, I've heard this being said by Elon and it's likely that we're going into that point maybe in 10 years time or lesser. Well, technology has been innovating and evolving so fast so we cannot time the transition and these changes.

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April 17, 2023, 11:23:41 AM
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Sooner or later AI later transformed into robots and other machines are the ones doing human jobs with less error. Densely populated countries that are relying on labor might be a problem in the next decades to come unless birth control is successfully imposed. Even programmers might be soon with lesser demand if AIs are capable of doing the programs except on sensitive matters wherein humans are needed.

With this, education and enhancing the skills and interests of our kids are becoming a must if we want them to have successful careers in the future. And before that, we better plan ahead especially when it comes to financial security before engaging in married life and starting a family.

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April 17, 2023, 05:30:50 PM
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Sooner or later AI later transformed into robots and other machines are the ones doing human jobs with less error. Densely populated countries that are relying on labor might be a problem in the next decades to come unless birth control is successfully imposed. Even programmers might be soon with lesser demand if AIs are capable of doing the programs except on sensitive matters wherein humans are needed.

With this, education and enhancing the skills and interests of our kids are becoming a must if we want them to have successful careers in the future. And before that, we better plan ahead especially when it comes to financial security before engaging in married life and starting a family.

it's coming i saw already some robots in our fast-food restaurant bringing the food to the customer's table. some teens do summer jobs in these restaurants, i think there will be no training ground for these teens anymore in the future.

it could be too late to stop the development of AIs as what Elon was suggesting becuase it's already out. the codes are out there already and AIs as he said were used to lie to which AIs are already trying to manipulate people's beliefs.

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April 18, 2023, 09:15:46 AM
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~~ Even programmers might be soon with lesser demand if AIs are capable of doing the programs except on sensitive matters wherein humans are needed.

With this, education and enhancing the skills and interests of our kids are becoming a must if we want them to have successful careers in the future. And before that, we better plan ahead especially when it comes to financial security before engaging in married life and starting a family.

I believe that the best approach is to educate people on how to maximize the use of AI and to use the sophistication of robotics for commercial purposes, not to sell it but rather to maximize the existing functions of AI.

Currently, AI has emerged and everyone feels that this technology has great potential. Even big companies like Google have also entered the AI industry with their BARD.

However, I see some shortcomings that still leave gaps for AI, which is why the existence of humans is still needed. AI is very good at processing data, but when it comes to creating new data, some of the results have proven to be disappointing. Additionally, AI is not equipped with senses, sensitivity to the environment, and does not understand moral decision making.
We can maximize the strengths that are unique to humans, so that the education we provide to our families is not in vain.
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April 18, 2023, 11:07:43 AM
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The world is already embracing technology in all spheres, including health, agriculture, finance, transportation, and many others. Now, when it comes to AI and automation, most machine designs only require operators to send commands and the task will be completed and most importantly, it reduces the costs of employing people but even at that where do we expect these individuals to feed so it has its own disadvantage, many will be losing their jobs. the best thing for young people now is to go into tech. and since it's good but the impact is severe on the people.
I'd say it will just be an easier way for workers and employees to accomplish the job and not a total replacement on their end. Decision making, empathy, and other skills which requires thinking are functions a human have while AI don't. They do have the information but things won't work that easily for these projects to function alone. The goal of technological advancements is simple to ease our way of living and AI projects are simply part of technological revolution. What is happening right now might be overseeing what will happen wherein in the first place, economies won't allow people to stop working simply because economies won't run without people's money and taxes. There'll be just changes more likely.

I agree since the way I see AI and automation is that it only would make the process be much easy to do rather than replace the people who supposed to be doing. Based on how I see the recent advancement on these, we cannot deny that some industries would rather choose this automated process since this would make the cost less. But, as of now, I cannot see it to fully replace workers since these technologies have not been proven to be effective in the long run. It will be a long way to go to be fully adapted by majority. Human workers are still much ahead than AI since we have the capacity to think and acquire skills that is very useful in the business processes.
besides that, human knowledge can be applied into different aspects of the economy. despite the fact that AI can automate and calculate instantly, they are just programmed to do specific things, and if there's a chance they'd be given multi-tasking jobs, they will still rely on the assistance of human being to fully utilize their calculations and automation. as what i can see on the AI today, it is undeniable that there are doubts and fears that it will someday replace human being, but i still believe that it depends on how we use and utilize its existence the same as how money can be good or bad depending on who's the one using and how it is used.
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AI will change the job market but this is not going to be good for commoners like us! In order to reduce costs, companies will implement multiple automations wherever possible. This will lead to millions of job cuts in future. With economy already struggling, AI will add to it.

Elon Musk once said, he has seen what AI can do and it's scary. Let's hope that day doesn't come. AI will eventually bring disaster for the humankind.

My personal prediction is that this will drive towards a decrease of the population in the mid-long term.
Companies will be able to lay off a significant quantity of their labor, leaving in their positions only those responsible for the maintenance and design of the machines themselves, engineers and scientists.

In this panorama of less job opportunities and equal (or higher) prices for good and services, some people will opt not to have children, in order to safeguard their own economical situation.

That is the way I see it, at least.
Usually, higher the education, the less the birth rate. Also, there are a lot of things why people prefer to not have kids. For example, at past woman couldn't marry if she was a virgin, now a woman can't marry if she is a virgin, lol. At past women had housewife duties, now we have a fridge, a washing machine, dishwasher, a robot vacuum cleaner. Actually, men don't need to marry a woman because it's costly and comes with lots of problems. Women don't need to marry a man because they want to be on their own, have fun with other men, drink, party, etc. So, we got to the point where people in western countries don't want to marry and give a birth while in developing countries, because of less education, less possibilities, religion, cultural beliefs, etc, people give a birth.

And can you guess what will AI do? People won't give a birth not because of the competition with AI but because of better life. There was an experiment where mice were put in a cage where they had absolutely everything they needed, all the comfort and you know what happened? Their population just started declining and the final results were devastating.
If I am not mistaken, Denmark was talking about how robots will take our jobs and government should have to pay wage to everyone, i.e. about the future without no jobs where robots do all the job and people live on pension.

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April 19, 2023, 11:52:41 AM
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It's kinda sad that this is really like an inevitable things to happen since tech is evolving anyway. I recall some news about that new Mcdonald's restaurant even opening that has no employee and imagine if such layoffs happened to those fast food chain since every processes were being automated already.

Even tech giants are now doing layoffs, but it is not due to AI yet I believe. Devs are ironically laying themselves off their jobs as they develop the one that replaces them, although I do have some few doubts that AI will replace devs though.
The craze for AI is very recent, but AI has been with us for a very long time and it is everywhere, they are trading the markets, playing chess and other board games, offering movie or product recommendations at Netflix or Amazon, piloting planes and soon enough they will drive our cars and do many other things, and in fact there are already some AI which develop software and which can even make inventions, so the developers can in fact be replaced and a great deal of the human population may find themselves replaced one day by AI as well.
It only got hyped again because of that ChatGpt which is said to be all around (can do almost anything) but it wasn't totally perfect yet. It still fails on something and it was being fixed by its developers from time to time to improve its performance.

There are actually cars now which can drive you automatically and they are much safer because they can automatically stop because of their sensors when the car is about to hit on something. How can the AI develop a software or invent things on its own? I think there will still be human intervention to make it possible but this might be the same as ChatGpt because it can also do coding really well.
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True. Let's start with the Chat bots that has been like common in websites even in the last 5 years. It is just that people did not realize how much of an impact it can bring to the job market. They thought that AI will never improve. Code generators were even there before ChatGPT through metaprogramming.

I would call it though that the development was quite slow before since not many business were really looking for it until this time when the hype skyrocketed. See how ChatGPT 3 goes to ChatGPT 4 so fast.
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True. Let's start with the Chat bots that has been like common in websites even in the last 5 years. It is just that people did not realize how much of an impact it can bring to the job market. They thought that AI will never improve. Code generators were even there before ChatGPT through metaprogramming.

I would call it though that the development was quite slow before since not many business were really looking for it until this time when the hype skyrocketed. See how ChatGPT 3 goes to ChatGPT 4 so fast.

I just remembered before that there are no bots in support like there are only live support that will answer your queries but now there are bots that will automatically answered your questions which those live support jobs lost on this. Before the technology is not that advance that is the development is very slow but right now there are ton , like before deep fake is the only what to faking videos but right now it is text to video which is very fast and advance.
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besides that, human knowledge can be applied into different aspects of the economy. despite the fact that AI can automate and calculate instantly, they are just programmed to do specific things, and if there's a chance they'd be given multi-tasking jobs, they will still rely on the assistance of human being to fully utilize their calculations and automation. as what i can see on the AI today, it is undeniable that there are doubts and fears that it will someday replace human being, but i still believe that it depends on how we use and utilize its existence the same as how money can be good or bad depending on who's the one using and how it is used.
AI is created in order to make a person's life more comfortable, and it is understood that a person should give tasks, so AI cannot be allowed to replace a person and can act autonomously without his intervention. This is an unexplored area that humanity has approached, everything new is scary, but as far as AI is concerned, these fears are not unfounded, so that it always remains safe for us, we must control it.

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April 19, 2023, 01:50:22 PM
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AI is created in order to make a person's life more comfortable, and it is understood that a person should give tasks, so AI cannot be allowed to replace a person and can act autonomously without his intervention. This is an unexplored area that humanity has approached, everything new is scary, but as far as AI is concerned, these fears are not unfounded, so that it always remains safe for us, we must control it.
You might be thinking that right now but we know that people will get more than they ask for, eventually someone will further the advancement to the point that AI becomes sentient, it might sound silly if not stupid but we know what humanity is capable of, when we put effort and time into something, we usually get astonishing results.
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Well before it is like just a FAQ that looked like a bot. Those are just easily done  since it it just set of Q and A and you don't really get any sort of interactivity like you're talking to someone or something. The answers were all just laid out there.

It's even concerning that Deep Fake are kinda getting really subtle to the point that you may not know if the video is fake or legitimate.  This is why I am skeptical with most of the videos I usually watch in the internet.
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April 19, 2023, 03:23:34 PM
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AI is created in order to make a person's life more comfortable, and it is understood that a person should give tasks, so AI cannot be allowed to replace a person and can act autonomously without his intervention. This is an unexplored area that humanity has approached, everything new is scary, but as far as AI is concerned, these fears are not unfounded, so that it always remains safe for us, we must control it.

Whenever there is any modern invention we hear this debate that it will result in increased unemployment. Like when modern  diesel engine was invented it is said that machines will do the work and there is less requirement of humans. Now AI is on the rise and same is being heard again. We need to transform ourselves to fit in coming Era which will be dominated by AI. Resisting AI or anyother emerging technology will only result in loss.
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