Plagiarism Vs Scam

[Perfectos]

In the forum I see many big scammers continue their work, their accounts only have red tags, on the other hand, I see many accounts getting banned for plagiarism.
So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

[Adbitco]

Well to answer your question is in a pure heart, here forum warned against plagiarism in as much as you are trying to make your post also keep note to only post a reliable material or content because I believe people could used here as a reference site that Carry's a legit information about bitcoin and any other related cryptocurrencies. So it will be ideal you post only a trusted material or content, however it's forbids to copy and paste materials from other site without a reference link or a quote from the original author to show authenticity.

For scammers, everyone are liable for their lost, before dealing with anyone here you should carry out your due diligence to ascertain if such person is trusted or reliable to deal with otherwise forum aren't aware of your business transaction with such person. To be at the safer side it is advisable to use a reputable escrow provider to help secure your funds before going into final deal with such person otherwise you could be scammed and if such happened no admin or mod could be able to rescue you or even restore your stollen funds.
Have a nice day

[Xal0lex]

Plagiarism can always be checked by forum staff using specialized services, or users who report cases of plagiarism always confirm the plagiarism with links to the sources. In this way plagiarism is provable. With the facts of fraud is quite different. To confirm the fact of fraud we need to investigate many factors, no one from the staff will do this. Plus, there is the possibility of staff interest in a particular investigation. That is why fraud is not moderated on the forum.

[hosseinimr93]

That's because scams are not moderated in the forum.
It's not possible for admins and moderators to check the projects one by one to see whether they are scam or not.
If users are banned due to being a scammer, then many people will (wrongly) think that anyone who runs a business and hasn't been banned is a trustworthy user.

[PX-Z]

Well, getting scammed is a choice. It's their sole responsibility to have knowledge and to avoid getting scammed while there are lots of obvious ways to identify a scam, scam attempt, suspicious and etc.
On the other hand, against and banning plagiarism is a general rule of for any community forums for quality content, posts, etc.

[Cryptomiles1]

You don't have to hastily involved yourself with any transaction, is advisable to do your thorough search and investigation before involving with any currency trading. I believe a staff already given you the best answer to your question. For account banning is results of copying and paste a post that has no proof of authorship or origins and besides the mods here are trying their best to keep here pure as snow.

[Stalker22]

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So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

Both plagiarism and scamming are serious offenses that can harm individuals and communities. However, forums need to have clear and consistent policies and enforcement mechanisms. Plagiarism is often evident and easily verified, but preventing scammers from exploiting the forum can be challenging. That is why many forums have strict policies against plagiarism and may ban users who violate these policies. Scamming, however, is a gray area and is generally not moderated on the forum.

[joker_josue]

So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

Both cases are highly serious and rejected. But there is a difference between the two:

Plagiarism: It is possible for anyone to verify and confirm what is plagiarism or not.
Scan: can only be proven by people who have suffered the scam.

Therefore, it becomes easier to ban a user who commits plagiarism, because it is probable by anyone in the face of evidence.
As for those who comment on the scam, only those who suffer from it can present facts, facts that third parties will not be able to confirm.

So, with regard to the coup, it is up to each one to evaluate based on the analysis they can and should do.

[dkbit98]

So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

If something is not clearly defined in forum rules than it can't be any punishment for that, even if it is a scam.
Maybe I would like to have this rule added but when you think about it this could open whole new can of worms, and many regular members could get banned for nothing.
For plagiarism everything is clear, it's stealing work of someone else, but you can't really compared plagiarism with scam, and there are other cases for getting banned, like death threats for example.

[Little Mouse]

So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

It's not about more or less offensive crime. Scam or possible scam can't be verified all the time. Verification takes a lot of time too. So, instead of having controversial decisions, it's better not to be the decider. That's why scam isn't moderated here. theymos can't ensure a scam free forum ever.

[decodx]

Well, it's like they say - "You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink." While the forum admin and moderators can provide guidelines and rules, it is ultimately up to us as users to be vigilant and use our own judgment to make this a safe and productive space for all.

[Shamm]

In the forum I see many big scammers continue their work, their accounts only have red tags, on the other hand, I see many accounts getting banned for plagiarism.
So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

Where ever we go if we are trying to copy anything from other's work and claim that is ours or let say we do a plagiarism then that's a bad Idea or habit even in our real life interms of plagiarism then it's not good to claim others work. And in the forum as you can see there are many user got banned because of plagiarism it because it's prohibited there in our community and if they are caught then permanently banned are weaving. While Scammers they Got only red tags but not 1 but many red tags so that other user who encounter that account is a ware that not to deal with that user because it's too risky.

[Fiatless]

In the forum I see many big scammers continue their work, their accounts only have red tags, on the other hand, I see many accounts getting banned for plagiarism.
So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

Both offenses are frowned upon in the forum but it seems that plagiarism has a greater punishment because the crime can be easily established. A scam is not a lesser crime but it is very difficult and sometimes expensive to investigate. I also think that people can easily accuse someone of scamming them which might not be true. Businesses might not go as planned and one party might claim that he has been scammed especially if he loses money. And in this forum business dealing is mostly based on trust that no legal document is signed that can be used as evidence. Maybe in the nearest future rules covering punishment for proven scam cases might be increased because some scams are preplanned.

[Mpamaegbu]

In the forum I see many big scammers continue their work, their accounts only have red tags, on the other hand, I see many accounts getting banned for plagiarism.
So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

Honestly, I've asked similar question too. Why is scam left unmoderated and in cases where the scam is clearly proved to have taken place, nothing is still done. For me, both should be weighed on the same scale. Forum admins should revisit that rule and activate a ban clause on scam because scam does as much scare as plagiarism to this forum. I don't subscribe to the notion that users should be wise enough to spot a scam. Not everyone will be as wise as those who already knew how. After all, commonsense isn't common.

[Solosanz]

A scam is not a lesser crime but it is very difficult and sometimes expensive to investigate. I also think that people can easily accuse someone of scamming them which might not be true. Businesses might not go as planned and one party might claim that he has been scammed especially if he loses money. And in this forum business dealing is mostly based on trust that no legal document is signed that can be used as evidence. Maybe in the nearest future rules covering punishment for proven scam cases might be increased because some scams are preplanned.

If you think someone get wrongly accused for scamming, you can give your opinion on that's thread or creating a new thread to ask any users to recheck the case. If the case is between big business vs newbie, many users tend to believe the business is right. But if the case is between small business vs high ranked user, many users tend to believe the business is a scammer. But it still depends on case by case.

What do you mean about no legal document? are you asking the administrators to ask KYC for any business in this forum? it will not happen.

The administrators aren't sleeping, you can be a subject for investigation if you did a huge scam.

Bitcointalk.org is in US jurisdiction, and is subject to US subpoenas, wiretap orders, preservation orders (which would negate the above retention rules), and similar. Furthermore, our service providers could also be subject to similar orders without our knowledge. Note that we consider PMs to require a warrant in order to be released.
At our sole discretion, we may voluntarily assist law enforcement worldwide. Generally we do this only when we perceive that the target user has probably committed a serious and non-victimless crime.
At our sole discretion, we may (noncommercially) share or extend retention on any of a specific user's userdata even without law-enforcement involvement. This is very rare.

[Y3shot]

In the forum I see many big scammers continue their work, their accounts only have red tags, on the other hand, I see many accounts getting banned for plagiarism.
So my question is now is the crime of plagiarism more offensive than scamming?

The both are offensive, if Plagiarism should be tolerated whereby users won't be be banned,  it will kill the forum and make members to be lazy, the forum will no longer have standard. Scammers giving red tag can always be avoided by forum users, you can kill all the thrives in the world because they are bad to the society.

[KingsDen]

Plagiarism can always be checked by forum staff using specialized services, or users who report cases of plagiarism always confirm the plagiarism with links to the sources. In this way plagiarism is provable. With the facts of fraud is quite different. To confirm the fact of fraud we need to investigate many factors, no one from the staff will do this. Plus, there is the possibility of staff interest in a particular investigation. That is why fraud is not moderated on the forum.

Since I have been seeing this scam moderation argument, this is my first time of reading something that is appreciably making sense on the reason why scam is not moderated. Before now I used to get some random unconnected reasons.
Base on the answer you gave above, if I scam someone and come out publicly to attest that I really scammed and yet not remorseful about it, will I be banned?

[Xal0lex]

Base on the answer you gave above, if I scam someone and come out publicly to attest that I really scammed and yet not remorseful about it, will I be banned?

I highly doubt you (or anyone else) will get banned for that. Fraud is not moderated at all. So on what grounds are you going to get banned? I may be wrong, but I honestly don't remember a single instance of a user getting banned specifically for scamming the forum.

[lovesmayfamilis]

It is possible to equate both plagiarism and fraud to the same level of violation, but as the users answered above, plagiarism is provable, so strict rules apply to it.
But let's compare posts from ChatGPT. AI-generated posts are also the most common form of plagiarism, but the forum has not yet decided on the punishment or acceptance of such posts. Accordingly, if fraud takes time to detect, then some plagiarism methods also take time, and we can say that ChatGPT, that is, plagiarism, is also not moderated.

[salad daging]

Where ever we go if we are trying to copy anything from other's work and claim that is ours or let say we do a plagiarism then that's a bad Idea or habit even in our real life interms of plagiarism then it's not good to claim others work. And in the forum as you can see there are many user got banned because of plagiarism it because it's prohibited there in our community and if they are caught then permanently banned are weaving. While Scammers they Got only red tags but not 1 but many red tags so that other user who encounter that account is a ware that not to deal with that user because it's too risky.

That is why plagiarism is strictly prohibited because there are already rules in this forum and even as discussed here that staff/moderators can take that action because it is proven and verifiable in reports or in this thread.

Meanwhile, to prevent scammers from returning to individuals because the forum is not moderated so it is difficult for them to take that action, but in essence it is our responsibility and risk for us with scammers, then it is up to us how to prevent it, if a project has been cheats all you have to do is avoid and tag red.