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March 24, 2023, 08:38:06 PM
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A Ugandan Pastor by the name, David Ochieng is said to have shut down his church after winning money equivalent to about $140,000 through sports betting..

The church members came for their normal weekly services and were shocked to discovered that the entire place were locked, and the pastor no where to be found, the pastor was later contacted, and he confessed that he become a pastor out of greed and not because God called him ...

This is an interesting news to read, please read the full version of the story here -https://tribuneonlineng.com/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet/

The above affirms to the fact that many, are into what they do, not because they love it, or because its their calling, but because of the money they get to make from it, just imagine how many years this pastor have deceived his church members into believing he was genuinely called by God to serve as a pastor..

Now my question is, As a business or as a career person who is also into gambling/betting, would you quit your current business or career if you won the same amount of money from gambling/betting?
Be sincere and state your reasons for your decision..

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March 24, 2023, 08:53:08 PM
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Quitting once business or career to gamble is what is called addiction to gamble. If I have any chance to win such amount then I am certainly investing it into my business to allow it to grow or even expand to other businesses. Taking the money into gambling again is just like returning it back to the owner without any hope of getting it back. But with it in business one is guaranteed a constant flow of income

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March 24, 2023, 08:59:02 PM
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A Ugandan Pastor by the name, David Ochieng is said to have shut down his church after winning money equivalent to about $140,000 through sports betting..

The church members came for their normal weekly services and were shocked to discovered that the entire place were locked, and the pastor no where to be found, the pastor was later contacted, and he confessed that he become a pastor out of greed and not because God called him ...

This is an interesting news to read, please read the full version of the story here -https://tribuneonlineng.com/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet/

The above affirms to the fact that many, are into what they do, not because they love it, or because its their calling, but because of the money they get to make from it, just imagine how many years this pastor have deceived his church members into believing he was genuinely called by God to serve as a pastor..

Now my question is, As a business or as a career person who is also into gambling/betting, would you quit your current business or career if you won the same amount of money from gambling/betting?
Be sincere and state your reasons for your decision..

Holy f*ck.This story is as scary as funny at the same time,it shows our nature,deep in our roots is the insatiable desire of greed to have more and more and people will find all means to get what they want.This is I think one of the rare cases where people of religion deceive so openly,I know all of them or almost all of them do deceive people and nowadays I am pretty sure no one feels the call of God anymore and that is worrying.I go to church on Sundays and I believe God but I do not believe much the priests and rabins or imams for that other religion,it shows they are all in for the money.

As this decision I think this shows how grave the case was and that this pastor deserve to be in prison for sometime after deceiving so many people for so long,I know no one forced the believers to go to this specific church but this consists of a crime,the crime of cheating and scamming people.

I would not quit my job but I would invest that money in a lot of crypto rigs,buy crypto,stake them and earn passive income,that is my dream,first and foremost but no I would not quit even if I won that amount.

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March 24, 2023, 09:18:54 PM
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If am in his position who is making use of the church to fulfill the personal needs, then I would always want to resort into quitting as long as I have other means to survive by making use of my gambling winnings. However, if my current business is also in progress and leaving it would mean closing an opportunity to be profitable, then I would never quit and would always want to continue the business, and might as well add some capital from my winnings in gambling.

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March 24, 2023, 09:20:57 PM
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A Ugandan Pastor by the name, David Ochieng is said to have shut down his church after winning money equivalent to about $140,000 through sports betting..

The church members came for their normal weekly services and were shocked to discovered that the entire place were locked, and the pastor no where to be found, the pastor was later contacted, and he confessed that he become a pastor out of greed and not because God called him ...

This is an interesting news to read, please read the full version of the story here -https://tribuneonlineng.com/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet/

The above affirms to the fact that many, are into what they do, not because they love it, or because its their calling, but because of the money they get to make from it, just imagine how many years this pastor have deceived his church members into believing he was genuinely called by God to serve as a pastor..

Now my question is, As a business or as a career person who is also into gambling/betting, would you quit your current business or career if you won the same amount of money from gambling/betting?
Be sincere and state your reasons for your decision..
As this decision I think this shows how grave the case was and that this pastor deserve to be in prison for sometime after deceiving so many people for so long,I know no one forced the believers to go to this specific church but this consists of a crime,the crime of cheating and scamming people.
Exactly my thought, if I was a member of this church, I did feel very angry and disappointed in myself, for even as intelligent as I think I am, in was deceived for several years without the slightest idea of God.
This pastor indeed, deserve to be in jail, Now, i am wondering , after this experience, will any member of that church ever believe in pastors again?

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I would not quit my job but I would invest that money in a lot of crypto rigs,buy crypto,stake them and earn passive income,that is my dream,first and foremost but no I would not quit even if I won that amount.
This is a good dream, cryptocurrencies would continue to grow overtime, but they need constant monitoring, even as good as it is to invest heavily in crypto, i will also invest other businesses like real estate and the likes..

If i was this pastor, for the fear of God, i would still keep the church running, with part of this money, i would even expand the church more to attract more members..

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March 24, 2023, 09:24:21 PM
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A Ugandan Pastor by the name, David Ochieng is said to have shut down his church after winning money equivalent to about $140,000 through sports betting..

The church members came for their normal weekly services and were shocked to discovered that the entire place were locked, and the pastor no where to be found, the pastor was later contacted, and he confessed that he become a pastor out of greed and not because God called him ...

This is an interesting news to read, please read the full version of the story here -https://tribuneonlineng.com/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet/

The above affirms to the fact that many, are into what they do, not because they love it, or because its their calling, but because of the money they get to make from it, just imagine how many years this pastor have deceived his church members into believing he was genuinely called by God to serve as a pastor..

Now my question is, As a business or as a career person who is also into gambling/betting, would you quit your current business or career if you won the same amount of money from gambling/betting?
Be sincere and state your reasons for your decision..

Seems a bit strange quite frankly, as these sort of pastors are renown for milking a lot more money out of their congregation. I wonder how long he was preaching about being righteous and fearful, all the while he was gambling as a side hobby. He might have won $140,000 (or one million in local currency), but at what expense did it take to achieve I wonder and who's money was he spending to get there? I wonder if this really is such a ground breaking sum, maybe he is old enough and can use it for his retirement plan, he better be quite economical with it - while it sounds a lot it might easily run out after 10-20 years and because he's a gambler he might fall back into the trap and lose it all.

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March 24, 2023, 09:27:15 PM
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To be honest, I never see any reason to quit my current business if that is operating legally and is never at the verge of losing. That would be a loss for me if I do that. But on the case of that fake pastor, it’s really reasonable to quit and close the church so he can stop from his wrong doings. Maybe a big win from gambling could offer him a lot of help so he can establish a legal business that will generate him good amount of income so he can provide for his family.

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March 24, 2023, 09:33:19 PM
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I see him a good pastor, because his greed have made him a pastor. Now what he looked for have been won and he believes of better life with the winning amount. Once he have made a mistake and now he have got an opportunity to get out of it. Very few pastor's were serving wholeheartedly whereas the majority were for money. In specific there is lot of difference between a catholic priest and a pastor. To be a catholic priest he needs to learn many things and it takes atleast 10+ years of time. Anyone turns to be a pastor with the knowledge about the Bible. This is why more fake pastors seen around.
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March 24, 2023, 09:39:03 PM
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I see him a good pastor, because his greed have made him a pastor. Now what he looked for have been won and he believes of better life with the winning amount. Once he have made a mistake and now he have got an opportunity to get out of it. Very few pastor's were serving wholeheartedly whereas the majority were for money. In specific there is lot of difference between a catholic priest and a pastor. To be a catholic priest he needs to learn many things and it takes atleast 10+ years of time. Anyone turns to be a pastor with the knowledge about the Bible. This is why more fake pastors seen around.

I do agree that being a priest and a pastor has a lot of differences.
Also, before becoming a priest, that person is given the chance to live outside the church to determine if priesthood is really his calling.
Whereas, you can be a pastor with little effort on your side. Maybe, just deceive even yourself that you want to preach and know something about your holy book.
And one example is the OP's story, I believe that pastor had difficulty in moving forward to be a pastor once he got such money.
Because if he doesn't have that amount, he can always be a pastor and live not in hunger, because he can always get something from church people.
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March 24, 2023, 09:48:03 PM
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As this decision I think this shows how grave the case was and that this pastor deserve to be in prison for sometime after deceiving so many people for so long,I know no one forced the believers to go to this specific church but this consists of a crime,the crime of cheating and scamming people.
Not a few days he deserves to spend the rest of his life in prison for betraying the people. Because people believed him. Faith can never be earned by money. Faith is created by giving love. And that love is ended by this priest in an instant due to greed. And he should be severely punished for this crime of cheating so that no one dares to commit such cheating on religion.

I would not quit my job but I would invest that money in a lot of crypto rigs,buy crypto,stake them and earn passive income,that is my dream,first and foremost but no I would not quit even if I won that amount.
In this situation I can never be deprived of people's love. If I had this same amount of money, I would use that money for investment. Or I used to trade in trading with this equivalent amount of money. Especially in the current market position if you can buy and trade five bitcoins from there and profit $5000-$10000 per trade. So if I had this same amount of money I would do this.
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Some pastors are there just because of money and perfect example with this is that Pastor. Unfortunately he is place or force to work in that position because for the greed of money and this is still good thing for their people because they know what's the real intention of that pastor and maybe they can find different person who have the real passion about teaching the word of god to them.

For me for winning that amount? I think this is not enough for me to decide to quit on my career since gambling winnings is temporary money and provably that pastor will use that money won on sportsbetting and he will be in bad position if he lost all of his money then no job to come back.

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Seems a bit strange quite frankly, as these sort of pastors are renown for milking a lot more money out of their congregation. I wonder how long he was preaching about being righteous and fearful, all the while he was gambling as a side hobby. He might have won $140,000 (or one million in local currency), but at what expense did it take to achieve I wonder and who's money was he spending to get there? I wonder if this really is such a ground breaking sum, maybe he is old enough and can use it for his retirement plan, he better be quite economical with it - while it sounds a lot it might easily run out after 10-20 years and because he's a gambler he might fall back into the trap and lose it all.
Agreed, I also have the same hunch that how much money he bet on gambling and whether it relates to funds from the congregation, based on the winnings of $ 140k then surely he bet high on gambling so he made high profits, so it is related to funds from the congregation or not but he had corrupted the priest's trust because before he always gave sermons on good conduct and renounced anything related to gambling, but in reality he gambled in gambling and shunned himself from goodness by leaving the pastor's activities.

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March 24, 2023, 09:57:56 PM
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140,000 bucks goes a long way in most third world countries, so I don't blame this guy for thinking that he's set for life with that amount of money. Although at the end of the day, I can see him wasting away all this money, and going back to his ways of conning people out of their hard-earned money, but I doubt it will work now since his reputation is broken amongst his people. Although this hasn't been the first time we see evangelists doing weird shit, even saw a news back in 2018 of some African Pastor using people as his stepping stone literally because "he's so holy that he can't be stepping on unholy ground", and of course, the Jonestown Massacre incidnet. This one's kind of lighthearted and funny since he apparently came clean about closing up shop amongst his followers, so there's that.

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A Ugandan Pastor by the name, David Ochieng is said to have shut down his church after winning money equivalent to about $140,000 through sports betting..

The church members came for their normal weekly services and were shocked to discovered that the entire place were locked, and the pastor no where to be found, the pastor was later contacted, and he confessed that he become a pastor out of greed and not because God called him ...

This is an interesting news to read, please read the full version of the story here -https://tribuneonlineng.com/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet/

The above affirms to the fact that many, are into what they do, not because they love it, or because its their calling, but because of the money they get to make from it, just imagine how many years this pastor have deceived his church members into believing he was genuinely called by God to serve as a pastor..

Now my question is, As a business or as a career person who is also into gambling/betting, would you quit your current business or career if you won the same amount of money from gambling/betting?
Be sincere and state your reasons for your decision..

Seems a bit strange quite frankly, as these sort of pastors are renown for milking a lot more money out of their congregation. I wonder how long he was preaching about being righteous and fearful, all the while he was gambling as a side hobby. He might have won $140,000 (or one million in local currency), but at what expense did it take to achieve I wonder and who's money was he spending to get there? I wonder if this really is such a ground breaking sum, maybe he is old enough and can use it for his retirement plan, he better be quite economical with it - while it sounds a lot it might easily run out after 10-20 years and because he's a gambler he might fall back into the trap and lose it all.
In the story, the pastor said he used 1 million(in local currency) to sign up for fixed matches, which for almost 1 year, he didn't hear anything from those in charge of the fixed matches, he said he almost gave up because he thought he's been scammed, but eventually, the guys in charge of the fixed matches contacted him and gave him a game with over 700 odds, he said he went all in on that game but didn't state the actual amount of money he staked on the game, at the end, he won over 100 million ( in local currency) which is equivalent to about $140,000 as I stated in the OP.

From this story above, I don't think he spent too much on the game itself, aside from the 1 million( which I believe to be church money) which he spent on subscribing to fixed matches.

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March 24, 2023, 10:15:21 PM
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It's so disappointing that there are servants who could run away from their callings because of greed. I think he just pursued being a pastor so he would have a source of income but I don't think turning his back because of money would be a good idea. He should have made a good exit and looked for someone to replace him first or even share a small portion of his winnings with the church. Greed won't save him forever.
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March 24, 2023, 10:20:05 PM
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If the money that I will win is enough for me and my family and to sustain our lifestyle then yeah, I might have to quit my daily job regardless of what it is (I won't stress the job of the supposedly pastor here).

But the money that he won in this example, it's not good for me in the country that I live in, you can just barely buy a house with that amount, + car and then some left for you that won't be sufficient to make our life easier. But if this is like a lotto, it's huge windfall millions of dollars and I think that will be good as a winning for me and my family.

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March 24, 2023, 10:26:17 PM
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This is one of those fun news, for sure he thinks it was a signal from God.

But the weird part of it is that most pastors do it because they really believe in got and not as a full-time job. Or at least that way is in my country, I don't know if it's different from yours.

And from what I understand, pastors don't have vices like drinking, woman, or gambling. The religion prohibits those things to them, so, is fun to see a pastor winning big. i would say: Casinos 1 - Church 0.

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March 24, 2023, 10:37:11 PM
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It's so disappointing that there are servants who could run away from their callings because of greed. I think he just pursued being a pastor so he would have a source of income but I don't think turning his back because of money would be a good idea. He should have made a good exit and looked for someone to replace him first or even share a small portion of his winnings with the church. Greed won't save him forever.
^It is always a part of a human to have greed and we cannot blame him.
For him probably being a pastor is a source of income and that is a stable way of making a consistent profit, but when he has a huge win everything changed including his decision. The reason could be, that is a good start to run his own business and live silently.
But if pastor wong stops gambling, it is better to quit serving God than continue to gamble which I doubt, gambling to them is a sin in the eyes of the church.
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March 24, 2023, 10:59:49 PM
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We already have a topic about this subject
What do you think about this?

But between your topic and the other poster your title and presentation are better I know my friend you don't mean it because @Alphakilo present his discussion in a way that we don't know about the subject of his topic I have posted on the subject that a servant of the Church of God cannot serve two masters at the same time, he will love the other over the other and hate the one over the other, it's obvious that he picked the wrong master to serve.
All that time he just want money because there's money and power attached to being a religious pastor, we hate this kind of story because they make us live on lies.


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March 24, 2023, 11:17:18 PM
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The above affirms to the fact that many, are into what they do, not because they love it, or because its their calling, but because of the money they get to make from it, just imagine how many years this pastor have deceived his church members into believing he was genuinely called by God to serve as a pastor..

Imagine the donations that he received which ended up being betted in gambling establishments. This kind of example truly increases the stigma around gambling companies where people would definitely do anything for the sake of gambling. This is just too painful to read especially by the community.

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Now my question is, As a business or as a career person who is also into gambling/betting, would you quit your current business or career if you won the same amount of money from gambling/betting?
Be sincere and state your reasons for your decision..

Personally, $140,000 is a relatively low amount of money for me to quit my job completely. This kind of money is not those typical jackpots where you could enjoy resting and travelling for the rest of your life. $140,000 may be relatively higher in Uganda but this cannot give me a retirement life where it would give me a comfortable life to live in the next 60-70 years.

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