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March 28, 2023, 06:50:39 AM
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If your mom and 7 niggers were in an action movie(?), would you consider it normal? Would that be an art for you?

So you're not just someone who hasn't set foot outside his village you're also a racist?
I wonder how the tens of people around here that are black,  both Muslim and not keen on porn are digesting your quote!
Are you're going to hate your mother for the rest of your life if he had sex with two <insert racist quote here> in high school, or are you going to hate her if she did that to feed your sorry ass and to afford to have you going to school instead of working in a labor camp?

Do you think women who commit suicide while working in the porn industry are doing it because they're happy with their lives? Why are so many porn victims killing themselves?

And there are tons of women committing suicide after working in a bank or in a school
And there are tons of women stoned to death by angry mobs who want to impose theirs views on morality!

Please reply without blaming me guys. I'm not asking you for your minority opinions in the field of theory.

Minority? Again you dream of somehow being the voice of the majority? Set foot outside your village, there are 8 billion people out there!

You still haven't answered my questions about what you do on his forum where you want to promote your hate propaganda:
How did you buy your coins? By trading morality or with money (capital)
Why did you buy your coins, not to earn more and increase your capital?

Keep your hate where it belongs locked in a closet in your basement, this is not a propaganda forum nor one where you should start to preach your absurd views on the whole world. This is about bitcoin, and as much, as you hate it bitcoin is the pure product of capitalism without control.



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The interest getting for the money is against the Muslim religion,But due to huge financial problems.The Muslim also taking loan to solve their economic problems.It doesn’t mean,they do against the Religious Ideology.The have get away from the convective ideology of the religion and get into the modern thought.Incase you are going to do your sibling marriage,your father depends on you for the money.But you don’t have any money in the savings,So you are forced to take some loan to help your father and your brother.So at such things, you are worked ethically then a Moral.

The woman was soulmate of man and depends on the man incomes.But most of the man not treat their wife equal and give him full money of their expenses.When the woman need money for their own survival and their children education,the woman are forced to do prostitution.It’s against the moral and it’s not against the ethical one.In such situations,woman are forced to use that option to get away from the situation.

The only solution for first one is we should have a savings at all stage to get away from the economic situation like marriages.Every man should take care of their family and his woman to avoid of prostitution by his woman in the society.

I'm sorry, maybe I don't know something, but...
And what - for women who turned out to be alone with children, there are no options to earn money other than prostitution? Smiley
I know examples, I’ll clarify - this is in my country (maybe something is wrong with us ?! Smiley ) a woman can work remotely at home, be part-time, be an IT specialist, psychologist, pediatrician, head of a bank branch, co-owner of a company, or co-founder of an agricultural holding... Why only prostitution?! Is the woman some other kind of people?
Well, if we are talking about this topic, then let's remember the saying "a coin has two sides." The second side of the coin is the consumers of the service, or those who force them to do it ... This is a more real problem. The problem is the sale of girls for a husband at 12 years old. The problem is that in some countries - a woman from birth has a lower social status. And they are simply forced to trade themselves, because. they have NO PERSPECTIVES from birth. I won’t specify, but there are some countries and some religions where, on the one hand, the cult of PARENTS, and on the other hand, a woman (the future Mother who gives life to all of us in the physical world) has no rights ...

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March 28, 2023, 11:27:05 AM
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So how exactly should a bank lend money? without interest? If yes then there will be no need for the banks. Banks have their shortcomings but we can't deny how much they've added to the development of our world as we know it today. From the beginning of time lending money for interest has been a thing if a particular people, culture, religion, or belief disagrees with it then that doesn't make it immoral, we disagree on a lot of other things.
And funny you should mention prostitution. My major problem with prostitution is that it enables sex and human trafficking. If whoever is doing it is actually doing it out of their own free will then it's their life. It may be immoral to you but again it's not your life.
Capitalism, like Democracy, has its downside but it's by far the best option. There would still be prostitutes in a socialist economy.

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March 28, 2023, 03:42:20 PM
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Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?

Usury has a very serious basis.  How was it before?  

A farmer threw a grain of wheat into the damp earth and a year later received a harvest - an ear grew from one grain, on which there were hundreds of wheat grains.  

The fisherman made a fishing rod and caught several tens of kilograms of fresh fish.  

The hunter made a bow and killed a deer weighing several tens of kilograms.  The cow gave calves and milk, the chickens gave eggs....

People realized that benefits can arise from nothing, it only takes time.  Therefore, back in the days of the ancient Sumerians, people came to the idea that money is also a commodity and money can reproduce itself.  This is a very important idea.... The ancient Sumerians discovered the principle of the time value of money.  

And for a fisherman (hunter, farmer, peasant) usury was not evil.  Because people understood that it was important right now to buy grain for sowing, fishing tackle, bowstring, etc.  

Every business needs initial capital, and after making a profit, both the principal and the interest on the loan can be easily repaid.  Interest-bearing loans are the backbone of any business.

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March 29, 2023, 09:52:23 AM
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Are you're going to hate your mother for the rest of your life if he had sex with two <insert racist quote here> in high school, or are you going to hate her if she did that to feed your sorry ass and to afford to have you going to school instead of working in a labor camp?

There are thousands of jobs we can do to earn money. Making money by prostitution is the easiest and most embarrassing of these. If you ask me, I'd rather live half-starved than go through something like this. Because I am an honorable person. Do you know what honor is?
 
And why do you think I am muslim? I don't even believe in god. Is morality only their monopoly? Are you jealous of their morals? I did not give any religious references in my arguments. Do you have a hard time talking to me without reference to religious references? Please don't deviate from the topic.


And there are tons of women committing suicide after working in a bank or in a school
And there are tons of women stoned to death by angry mobs who want to impose theirs views on morality!

Women working in the porn industry commit suicide due to drug addiction and psychological humiliation.
 
Women who commit suicide while working in other sectors experience this because of different difficulties in their social lives.
 
Are these two the same? Please don't deviate from the topic.

And I don't spread hate. Capitalism is destroying concepts such as morality and virtue created by thousands of years of human history. Please don't distort what I said. Actually, you don't have to be honest with me. You can keep accusing me of being a peasant by using derogatory terms like you always do. However, if you are not honest with yourself, you will lose your self-respect and one day you will turn into a bad person. I'm sure it would bother you if your mother acted in a porn movie. However, you have to defend even humiliating situations because the capitalism you are defending offers you this on a golden platter.


Why did you buy your coins, not to earn more and increase your capital?

Now I will answer the question that you are very curious about. I'm here because financial freedom doesn't mean getting rich for me. Financial freedom means getting rid of the capitalist-colonial banks for me. Satoshi is a bank killer hero for me. Does it mean just making a little more money for you? Oh! Of course, this could not have meant anything else to a capitalist. Sorry for asking you this question.
 
 
Before I forget, I must say that 500,000 children killed by the USA in Iraq have provided you with a comfortable life and a great education.
https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1506706179178725379
 
https://fair.org/extra/we-think-the-price-is-worth-it/


Are you're going to hate your mother for the rest of your life if he had sex with two <insert racist quote here> in high school, or are you going to hate her if she did that to feed your sorry ass and to afford to have you going to school instead of working in a labor camp?

How similar is it, right? There is no difference between them. He who rejects one of them rejects the other. Whoever accepts one of them also accepts the other. Would you like to make a confession to me now? Is the murder of 500 thousand children quite normal for you? How many more children will have to die before you can have a comfortable education and a comfortable life?
 
I hope I didn't put you in a difficult situation as an ordinary peasant. You elites please forgive the vulgar behavior of the common peasants, my lord.

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March 29, 2023, 10:18:17 AM
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You raised a good point, i want to say few words before answering your question that when i was kid i thought why is it USA and other big economic countries are making hell lot of money while my country is not regardless of import and export professions. Then i came to know that, USA and similar countries do not look at the impact on morality, of work they are doing, like the ones you mentioned and list is long.

To digest this, i come up with an answer that, what if those countries do not see capitilism as immoral because immorality of something is declared according to person's nature, culture and religion. If our culture or religion telling us, this work or profession is immoral we do not tend to work in that, even stop others too. Regardless of thinking how much money it could generate and how much tax will be paid resulting in better economy but no we just say "no" to those professions.

While these countries are not taking it as immoral professions due to the nature of there culture, so overall, to me i see them as immoral and the one who is involve in them will have to meet consequences.

Usury, prostitution, selling of drugs, usage of alcohol etc are few on my list of immoral professions.

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Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?
Haha this is really true. I just saw a reel that day which showed pretty much this only. In it people were doing prostitution but eventually police catches them but they had a camera nearby so they told it's not actually prostitution it's porn as it's paid but it's being recorded. So you are correct when big companies wants things their way they know how to change the law as well. I think it's more like immoral concepts are also becoming legal due to capitalism.
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March 29, 2023, 04:29:53 PM
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Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?


This is interesting to talk about. Somehow I think that the prostitution as an act which involves direct contact by opposite sex in sexual gratification for money or other exchange in satisfaction could be different from what capitalism has come up with in porn industry. For the Porn people, Porn industry is made in form of movie industry to also teach some people a few things or information, revelation of what they seem not to know or what will interest them. In this form like fiction movies, cartoon, epic, action movies, romantic etc and like porn movies. So they are all creation of capitalism in different forms like any other business organizations like construction companies, IT, agriculture, oil and gas etc are all the view of how a porn star or porn company director would see his business or explain it to be.
So they may not see porn industry as immoral but like any other business investment or organization.
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March 29, 2023, 04:32:18 PM
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Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?

Every system is killing itself, compare with the socialist countries and you see that capitalism las lifted more people out of poverty than socialist countries have people. Socialist countries tent to induce poverty as a mass indoctrination tool.

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March 30, 2023, 04:44:13 AM
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In my opinion capitalism destroys morals and social values, capitalism does not care about the poor who should be helped, the poor are marginalized and even killed if they are no longer productive or can no longer be used, it is time for the state to protect the public interest by abolishing the capitalist system.
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In my opinion capitalism destroys morals and social values, capitalism does not care about the poor who should be helped,

Why should the poor get help?
Not typical the observation as I lived a time next to a latin barrio > from thursday onwards party.
I have "poor" neigbours which have better cloth than me, smoke and drink coke instead of water.

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In my opinion capitalism destroys morals and social values, capitalism does not care about the poor who should be helped, the poor are marginalized and even killed if they are no longer productive or can no longer be used, it is time for the state to protect the public interest by abolishing the capitalist system.

Capitalism, in my opinion, can also have a human face. Now the governments of various countries are trying to change the laws, to make them closer to ordinary people. They understand that the old policy has reached a dead end, and they are trying to do a certain reset
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Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?

While it is true that capitalism and the pursuit of profit can sometimes clash with moral values, it is important to note that laws and regulations are often created to protect individuals and society as a whole. It is possible that the law is made by considering moral considerations and economic interests.

However, there is always a risk that powerful capitalist interests could exert undue influence on the making or enforcement of laws, creating a potential conflict of interest.

I think it's back to society as well to strike a balance between economic and moral considerations, and hold lawmakers and businesses accountable for their actions.

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March 31, 2023, 05:10:27 AM
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Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?

If you want to live like a saint, what are you doing in this forum? Bitcoin is being used by many criminals but here you are making posts here. Porn is still making the most money because there is infinite demand and so little pussy supply. Even though it is legal to make money that way, it is still not everybody's first choice. If everyone was a porn star, the market would be oversaturated and no one would make any money.

Humanity can't exist without capitalism. Socialism is against our instincts. Capitalism exists because we want it to exist.

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March 31, 2023, 07:48:40 AM
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Outstanding observation, pal! Usury and prostitution, seen as immoral in nearly every culture, yet their present-day equivalents – banking and adult entertainment – operate under legal regulations. Wild times we're in, huh? But, addressing your query, I don't reckon moral values are getting crushed by money-hungry capitalists imposing laws. Nah, it's more about viewpoint. What's wicked for some could be tolerable for others. We're juggling the tightrope of morality and legislation. In conclusion, let's kick back, soak in the madcap reality we call home, and have a blast! After all, we only live once, right? YOLO, baby!

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March 31, 2023, 08:56:45 AM
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If your mom and 7 niggers were in an action movie(?), would you consider it normal? Would that be an art for you?

So you're not just someone who hasn't set foot outside his village you're also a racist?
I wonder how the tens of people around here that are black,  both Muslim and not keen on porn are digesting your quote!
Are you're going to hate your mother for the rest of your life if he had sex with two <insert racist quote here> in high school, or are you going to hate her if she did that to feed your sorry ass and to afford to have you going to school instead of working in a labor camp?
Everyone in modern world thinks that it's okay but I highly disagree. There is no morale in this world and what only matters is money. And capitalism truly played its role in vanish of morale in people.
Religion doesn't exist, gods are dead in modern society. People say that they are christians and they steal, kill, commit adultery, bear false witness. It's also funny how Muslin people can't buy alcohol or gamble in their country but outside of borders they do whatever they want.

Morale doesn't exist, you can't deny that and you can't say that it's good. At past you couldn't marry to a woman who wasn't virgin but today who is virgin? And I'll never understand why boys like it, it's terrible when you go outside and constantly meet people who had sex with your wife, its terrible when you go to school and constantly see men who had sex with your mother. Today girls are proud of their high body count, maybe their fathers are proud too, who knows, maybe I'm very old-fashioned despite being very young, who knows.

And why do people, especially women always praise prostitution as the only possible way for feeding their children? What's wrong in being a cleaner? Cashier? Baker? There is nothing wrong in it, why should someone do prostitution when there are other options? It's just a choice they choose because they want, they like and just one piece of advice, never believe in prostitute's tears.

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The trend that is happening in almost all countries today is the problem of capitalism, it seems that capitalism has a strong network that makes the state powerless against it, in my country the capitalists have networks in several countries or regions so that whatever they do the state cannot prevent or stop. but for the sake of national sovereignty, it is time for the state to take firm action against the capitalists.
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And look who was telling us about morals!
Look who was telling people to not fall for the capitalist disease!
Look who was looking down at banks that charge interest and women who do porn!

The morality police that once it made it to full member immediately started advertising a casino!
This just proves how shallow your beliefs are, 50$ a week and you would sell all of them, probably you would do it even for less. Too bad there aren't some xxx projects around that pay for signatures, for 100$ I bet you would forget everything and start carrying xxx signs!
Pathetic!

There is no morale in this world and what only matters is money.

Morale is something different, again, not the first time:
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morale - the confidence, enthusiasm, and discipline of a person or group at a particular time.
morality - principles concerning the distinction between right and wrong or good and bad behaviour.

But that aside, morality is not something for you to decide or impose on others.
Does it bother you that somebody is doing porn? Does it affect your life?
Then maybe it bothers you that I'm paying for *** with Bitcoin, should we also restrict Bitcoin from being used in porn or prostitution?
Should we prevent Bitcoin for being used in casinos, mixers, or anything else because of somebody's morality?
Do you realize the slippery slope you're on?

Religion doesn't exist, gods are dead in modern society.

Do you have a clue how many times gods have died in my country in the last two millennia?
We had 2 or 3 sets of gods before Christianity, what happened to those gods? Did capitalism kill them also? Just lol!

At past you couldn't marry to a woman who wasn't virgin but today who is virgin?

But you could marry someone against her wish before she was even born and get another wife if the first one can't give birth to a boy!
Pretty decent times, do you miss them that much?

And I'll never understand why boys like it, it's terrible when you go outside and constantly meet people who had sex with your wife, its terrible when you go to school and constantly see men who had sex with your mother.

Stop treating your wife or your girlfriend like objects, it's not like you're buying a car and you want it to be brand new, and it's not like you have defiled someone because you have had sex with it, this is a dark ages mentality, the same mentality that sent people to be burned because they asked themselves if maybe the Sun is not spinning around the earth.

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Surprisingly countries that follow the capitalist policy is more successful than the communism so that is the answer. Morality doesn't really matter when it comes to money, because it's the most powerful weapon which can do anything you want when you have enough to pay for it.

Atleast by the regulation the underground activities are not happening so there is no individual is making all the money but the politicians do which is different though but we have the power to choose right government so if you do so then everything will be good for the society.

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Everyone in modern world thinks that it's okay but I highly disagree. There is no morale in this world and what only matters is money. And capitalism truly played its role in vanish of morale in people.

Religion doesn't exist, gods are dead in modern society....

Morale doesn't exist, you can't deny that and you can't say that it's good.....

And why do people, especially women always praise prostitution as the only possible way for feeding their children? What's wrong in being a cleaner? Cashier? Baker? There is nothing wrong in it, why should someone do prostitution when there are other options? It's just a choice they choose because they want, they like and just one piece of advice, never believe in prostitute's tears.

I understand your concern about the lack of morality in modern society, I believe that morality still exists to some extent. Money and capitalism do play an important role, but we shouldn't generalize and say that morality is dead.

Regarding someone's position, is it still A or B, we just have to respect it. Of course, the role of all parties is needed, both the government, the community and the smallest ourselves so that we can protect it together. The government also has a big Homework, namely providing access to dignified jobs that enable them to support themselves and their families so that this inequality is quickly resolved and does not become a disease in society.

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