Is capitalism killing morality in the name of the law?

[posi]

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?

The concept is man-made so they can change it according to their will. What I see in today's society is that our world is becoming pragmatic. That means people won't care if what they do is unethical, belittled, or not as long as they make money. Once they have money, they can use the money to buy aura to wash away the stains of the past. The rich are right in whatever they say, and being honored, few pay attention to their past. While to the poor, everything you say is wrong, and no one cares who you are.

[ElmedoRator]

I don't see the fault here with capitalism, it's unconvincing the OP makes such grounds. Sometimes imposed laws and business pressures can lead to some difficult or conflicting ethical decisions. It is important that we uphold our ethical values ​​and strive to find ways to work with business pressures to ensure that our decisions are not only profitable but also meet our ethical values and make positive contributions to the community.

[Paul Pogba]

True, capitalism has damaged the economic system which should be mutually beneficial and mutually helpful, when capitalism enters a country then usually the country will experience increasing poverty problems, capitalism is usually supported by strong media so it looks like they are helping the country's economy.

[WillyAp]

I don't see the fault here with capitalism, it's unconvincing the OP makes such grounds. Sometimes imposed laws and business pressures can lead to some difficult or conflicting ethical decisions.

Exactly

True, capitalism has damaged the economic system which should be mutually beneficial and mutually helpful, when capitalism enters a country then usually the country will experience increasing poverty problems, capitalism is usually supported by strong media so it looks like they are helping the country's economy.

So has socialism
An opinion
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/458125-socialism-does-more-harm-than-good-for-the-environment/

I liked Socialism in my youth and more education got rid of that I guess, don't believe politicians comes closest.

[BIT-BENDER]

Some would argue that Porn don’t directly cause harm to people nor does it cause loss of life. Infact pornography is a thriving business venture that many has been able to make Profits of it.

But the fact that people make profits of some doesn’t make it right if not some drugs should be legalized. I believe pornography should be optional to people of the right age and this law should be enforced and not just by clicking yes I am eighteen makes one an adult.

[Hispo]

Rather than morality, we can argue it is a matter of freedom and the right of people to take part in economic professions that are perceived not to be directly harmful to anyone.

In the case of prostitution, the idea behind it is the possibility of abuse and exploitation of women, specially those who are desperate for some kind of income.  So the instead banning things like that, the idea is to provide the environment and laws which would allow anyone who wishes to work that day, minimizing the negative aspects.

In general, morality is a very relative concept.

[bosede1]

In my country, it is more of a mixed economy because as we have people who do usury we have some banks which do not. For prostitution and related business, there are regulations to them to curb any excesses.

[19Nov16]

In my country, it is more of a mixed economy because as we have people who do usury we have some banks which do not. For prostitution and related business, there are regulations to them to curb any excesses.

Almost all systems related to finance currently contain or have the potential to become usury, when we are late paying internet fees there will be fines and means usury, a system like this really destroys life and social values, especially most of those who have large companies and dominate the current economy are capitalists.

[Dzigie]

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And look who was telling us about morals!
Look who was telling people to not fall for the capitalist disease!
Look who was looking down at banks that charge interest and women who do porn!

The morality police that once it made it to full member immediately started advertising a casino!
This just proves how shallow your beliefs are, 50$ a week and you would sell all of them, probably you would do it even for less. Too bad there aren't some xxx projects around that pay for signatures, for 100$ I bet you would forget everything and start carrying xxx signs!
Pathetic!

Yes, I participated in a signature campaign, but this is not a bank promotion campaign or a porn promotion campaign. Is this difficult for you to understand?

I asked you a few questions. Since you couldn't answer these questions, you made some wrong determinations about my personality and identity.

You have actually proven by your behavior that you contradict your own ideas.

1- I did not say that gambling is immoral.
2- I criticized the bank and the porn industry.
3- I think you considered the gambling industry immoral and blamed me for it.
4- However, I did not make any criticism in the context of gambling and morality.
5- You tried to catch me from the wrong place and showed us some moral reflexes in your subconscious.

I want to continue the discussion on a more intellectual level. Please don't try to make a judgment about my personality. Even if I am not a righteous person, my thoughts may reflect ideals. I want to see this issue as a place where concepts collide. At the end of the day, let's all be brothers again. If you want to answer me again, you can start with the questions I asked you in my previous message, that's what I did to you. I don't want to make you or anyone else nervous. I just want to talk about concepts.

[darewaller]

In my country, it is more of a mixed economy because as we have people who do usury we have some banks which do not. For prostitution and related business, there are regulations to them to curb any excesses.

Almost all systems related to finance currently contain or have the potential to become usury, when we are late paying internet fees there will be fines and means usury, a system like this really destroys life and social values, especially most of those who have large companies and dominate the current economy are capitalists.

I think they only put that as a way to discipline the people to be prompt on paying their bills. Is it effective right? Because most people don't want to be charged by extra fees so they are now paying early or even in advance. There are still some who can't pay on time for some reasons (mostly financial) so they have no choice but to face the consequences.

@OP it's not the capitalist who killed the morality of the people but it was the people who are involved on those professions that you said (pornography). There are regulations but I don't think they are a bad thing. It might be there to prevent under age people to get involved in this business.

[slashz9]

I think those at the top have the right to change the rules about everything,but I guess they said or changed it subtly.
and I think in some countries/regions there are still those who maintain their customs.

[iv4n]

Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Well, if you take loans from the bank and you are late you will keep your arms and legs at least. So it's more civilized to do business with banks than with loan sharks.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

It's a tricky profession where some girls are exploited from very young ages... but to not get too much into it, we can say that in countries with legalized prostitution people who work in that industry (both women and men) have some rights.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?

I can quote an Italian guy from the "Kings of Cannabis" documentary again... "In Italy, he would be arrested and sentenced for what he is doing in the Netherlands fully legally". He is making a lot of money from making weed products, having stores, and people following him on social networks.
Bottom line is that some politicians still live in the stone age... following some laws and regulations from decades and centuries ago. It's the 21st century, and someone would expect people to be more open-minded and aware of the world and all the living and unloving things in this world (especially with digitalization where people can learn a lot more about everything from home).

[19Nov16]

The current world economic conditions are indeed controlled by capitalism, since the 2nd world war ended, socialist practices have slowly faded and been replaced by a capitalist system, it is natural that it causes many problems such as economic inequality, and most of the victims are native or local residents.

[fadhilz123]

In my country, it is more of a mixed economy because as we have people who do usury we have some banks which do not. For prostitution and related business, there are regulations to them to curb any excesses.

I don't understand what you mean by mixed economy, whether it's a regulation that was deliberately made by a few parties so that it looks so strange to me. Because here at my place all the rules are written clearly and are also clearly visible so that everyone almost understands how the rules of the country are even though there are those who break them sometimes.

Almost all systems related to finance currently contain or have the potential to become usury, when we are late paying internet fees there will be fines and means usury, a system like this really destroys life and social values, especially most of those who have large companies and dominate the current economy are capitalists.

You also need to adjust this to your own religious rules, because those who make such rules I think are so basic, because they don't think about usury that can arise when examined through the rules of the religion that you currently adhere to. So don't equate your rules of belief with rules of economics in general because you'll never find a clearer convergence through them.

[naikturun]

yes, those are the rules, the rich make the rules so if we want to win this game we have to follow the rules in it, or at least we know how to play it.
otherwise we will only be losers and always fail, no one will tell you the rule,  you must find out with yourself.

[ichsan ardi]

Usury is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is banking. And banking is regulated by law.

Making money by prostitution is an immoral profession in almost every society. But today this immoral profession has a modern counterpart. Its name is porn industry. And the porn industry is regulated by law.

Do you think moral concepts are being killed by capitalist imposing laws who want to make more money?

I think yes, the more we don't have money, we will be looked down upon and oppressed by people. We don't have to be rich. Obviously, we have to be grateful for our situation, because some rich people will legalize any means to make money, even if they bribe the government.

[CageMabok]

yes, those are the rules, the rich make the rules so if we want to win this game we have to follow the rules in it, or at least we know how to play it.
otherwise we will only be losers and always fail, no one will tell you the rule,  you must find out with yourself.

If you want to be successful, of course everyone has to find out everything for themselves because every thing that is needed will not be obtained if we are not active in looking for it. And it's not only about the rules and how to play whatever may be related to certain morals and laws in a certain scope, but also in work or in running a business that we have mastered, because the rules are only part of the points that everyone must understand before start doing something in his life.

[Smartprofit]

Is it possible to build a society based on ethical and moral values?  This is a very difficult question...

Such experiments have been undertaken in the history of the world. 

One of the most famous is the construction of socialism, as the first step towards building communism.  Communism is an ideal social system in which the rule operates - "Each person contributes to the well-being of Mankind, while the needs of all people are satisfied, regardless of the size of their contribution to the common cause!"  It was assumed that by the time Communism was built, the borders between all countries would disappear, and all people would adhere to high moral principles.  As you know, Communism was never built. 

Capitalism, unlike Communism, does not require high moral principles from people.  The main virtues of the capitalist are reasonable selfishness, adequacy and vigorous activity aimed at making a profit. 

Many scold capitalism because it encourages human vices.  But this is not surprising, given that the basis of capitalism is a philosophical theory according to which a reasonable egoist (as opposed to a religious or communist fanatic) does good not only for himself, but for the whole society by his actions.

[fuer44]

Culture and religion can influence this matter mate. if the country is an Islamic majority, it will definitely reject the porn industry, alcohol and gambling. Although they still run it independently without any legal protection from the government. Call it the Arab kingdom, they are unlikely to legalize the industry but lately they have started to open up to the tourism industry, whereas what we know from the past the Arab kingdom was closed to foreign cultures that entered (tourists) to vacation there.

It also makes sense capitalist killing morality, and in this era the most important thing is economic progress.

[kro55]

Some would argue that Porn don’t directly cause harm to people nor does it cause loss of life. Infact pornography is a thriving business venture that many has been able to make Profits of it.

But the fact that people make profits of some doesn’t make it right if not some drugs should be legalized. I believe pornography should be optional to people of the right age and this law should be enforced and not just by clicking yes I am eighteen makes one an adult.

All have laws, in my country, porn sites were banned many years ago. But the problem is that the internet is so vast, and many people defy the law that the government cannot block it or control it all. The development of technology is also a double-edged sword, with the proliferation of VPN software, blocking such pornographic sites is almost impossible. For me, the porn industry is a harmful industry, many rapes and murders are also partly rooted in pornography.