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The proposal is: to prohibit (may be programmatically) creating more than one topic in one section in one month. Reason: some sections are occupied by the same authors. Authors abuse the ability to create new topics. Examples: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=128.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
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As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
People are here to learn new things regarding bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. New people may even nit have any idea what the hell is merit. To create topics for their queries, you will force them to earn merit. Did I understand your points correctly? If so, I think this is a shit idea. People may have a lot of questions to learn for which they would need to create a few topics a week. How would this help them? You should know that theymos don't like a lot of such restrictions, otherwise, we may see newbie jail too.
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March 25, 2023, 03:32:39 PM |
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While I get the point of this proposal, I don't think it's a practical solution. Prohibiting members from creating more than one topic in one section in one month may limit the potential for valuable contributions. Some authors may have multiple ideas or perspectives to share on a particular topic or section, and this restriction would prevent them from doing so.
Perhaps there could be additional rules to discourage spamming or repetitive content, but at the end of the day, members should be allowed to create multiple topics as long as they are relevant and contribute to the discussion.
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March 25, 2023, 03:36:41 PM |
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I don't see the problem if one or two person posts a lot of threads on a certain board as long as the threads are useful/informative. also, needing to receive 10 merits before being able to post another thread would restrict a lot of members, especially newbies that are trying to learn.
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March 25, 2023, 04:07:58 PM |
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As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
This is just a way to not make people to have freedom. As long as you make good topics and posts, there is nothing bad to continue to make new topics and posts as long as they are helping or passing something meaningful to other people. You should create a topic that do not support spam, not the one that is talking about creating of topics. If the threads are useful, they can continue to make new useful ones. If not useful and seen as spam, report to moderator.
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March 25, 2023, 04:10:21 PM |
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If you think that a member is making unnecessary threads one after the other and there is no healthy discussion going on simply report it to the moderator and they will lock or delete the thread if they find it suitable.But putting such restrictions won't work according to me as you are free to create threads as many untill they are useful because we have alternative ways to tackle spam through moderators.So why come up with this?
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March 25, 2023, 04:14:58 PM Last edit: March 25, 2023, 04:26:16 PM by John Abraham |
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As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
People are here to learn new things regarding bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. New people may even nit have any idea what the hell is merit. To create topics for their queries, you will force them to earn merit. Did I understand your points correctly? If so, I think this is a shit idea. People may have a lot of questions to learn for which they would need to create a few topics a week. How would this help them? You should know that theymos don't like a lot of such restrictions, otherwise, we may see newbie jail too. Or we may say the forum is not for newbies. We will find ourselves in an isolated place. I don't like too many restrictions as well. But, The Idea is not trash as you think. Some sections could be excluded from those rules if such a system takes into consideration. For example, Beginner & Help, Bitcoin Technical Support, and other boards where people used to post only when they needed help. Still, I don't think such Idea will help. People will get into trouble.
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March 25, 2023, 05:16:25 PM |
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As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
If this is implemented newbies will be discouraged, the patience to stick around and learn forfeited and the use of AI might increase, because the urge to get 10 merit in order to create new topic will push users into looking for easy means. Imagine having to wait for 10 new merits before creating a new topic on a thread that will be beneficial to everyone. There should be no restriction to how many post a user can create on a certain section as long as they are relevant and in sync with the aim of that section. Moderators are saddled with the responsibility of moving topics that are not meant to be in a particular board to where it rightly belongs which has been the best way of filtering sections and will still be the best solution.
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March 25, 2023, 06:02:46 PM |
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~ As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
This is going to cause a lot of restrictions on both those that are fishing for merit and those that just want to share a post so that others can learn from it. If you feel there's no need for a thread then you can simply report it to moderators so that they can lock the thread or probably delete the thread if there are no replies. No need to add more restrictions to newbies account.
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March 25, 2023, 06:11:37 PM |
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I don’t see the point on limiting someone to create new topic if all the thread that he creates are in accordance to the forum rules. Limiting someone to contribute and share in the forum will move the freedom to express personal perspective. There’s a “report to admin” button on the bottom of the post to report all the topic that you feel not necessary at and let the moderator decide on the fate of that topic.
Having one person dominating a certain board only show how inactive or few people have interest on making a topic in there. I don’t see any harm with this issue.
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March 25, 2023, 06:19:18 PM |
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Actually, I see no reason why something like this should be introduced. There are just people who create many threads on different topics. As long as the threads fit the board, everything is ok. With this limitation, the forum would surely miss out on some good threads. And I don't like the alternative of having to earn 10 merit first. I see no reason for this requirement. As long as no rule of the forum is violated, I think everything is fine as it is now. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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March 25, 2023, 07:59:04 PM |
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I agree, if the threads are valuable, then why stop people from creating new ones? It is important to focus on preventing spam rather than limiting the creation of new content. And if anyone comes across a thread that they believe is spammy, repetitive or off-topic, they can always report it to the moderator.
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March 25, 2023, 08:13:39 PM |
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I very rarely visit local board, but if you think it's spam that may annoy you or isn't needed then look in the lower right hand corner of the post [report to moderator].Your first example is about multiple news topics created on the same day. It's news board that has rules, so if they break the rules then just report it to the moderator. I think xandry knows what to do when someone breaks the board rules. Here are the rules in Russian. Mнoгo вpeмeни yxoдит нa чиcткy paздeлa, в cлeдcтвии чeгo пoльзoвaтeли мoгyт тepять cвoи тeмы и cooбщeния, пoэтoмy peшил cдeлaть тaкyю тeмy кaк в aнглoязычнoм фopyмe c yчётoм cпeцифики. Пepeд тeм кaк coздaть нoвyю тeмy в paздeлe "Hoвocти", пpocьбa pyкoвoдcтвoвaтьcя cлeдyющими пpинципaми: - Пpoвepьтe нeт ли yжe тaкoй жe пo cмыcлy. Для этoгo мoжнo вocпoльзoвaтьcя пoиcкoм пo ключeвым cлoвaм нoвocти.
- He нaдo кoпиpoвaть тeкcт цeликoм. Oдин-двa aбзaцa из нaчaлa opигинaлa дocтaтoчнo, нeзaчeм пyбликoвaть цeлыe пoлoтнa тeкcтa, pacтягивaя иx нa нecкoлькo cooбщeний и т.д. Для yдoбcтвa тeкcт нoвocти пpи этoм мoжнo пoмecтить в тeг цитaты.
- Haчинaйтe нaзвaния тeм c дaты нoвocти нa кoтopyю ccылaeтecь и aдpeca caйтa, пocлe чeгo нaзвaниe caмoй нoвocти.
- Oбзopы кypcoв и aнaлитичecкиe cтaтьи o тexнoлoгияx здecь пyбликoвaть нe нaдo, этo нe нoвocти и им тyт нe мecтo.
- Пpи кoпиpoвaнии тeкcтoв c дpyгиx pecypcoв, ccылкa нa иcтoчник oбязaтeльнa.
- He пpeвpaщaйтe кoпиpoвaниe нoвocтeй в cвoй ocнoвнoй вид дeятeльнocти нa фopyмe. Cкoпиpoвaнныx нoвocтeй в вaшeй иcтopии cooбщeний дoлжнo быть мeньшинcтвo.
- He cтoит пyбликoвaть нoвocти oб aльтepнaтивныx кpиптoвaлютax, этo cчитaeтcя oфтoпикoм. Ecли xoтитe иx oпyбликoвaть, дeлaйтe этo в paздeлe "Aльтepнaтивныe кpиптoвaлюты".
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Instead of limiting the amount of topics someone can create (which I think it's bad suggestion) I would rather see people being more selective when they chose a topic to reply to and when they see poorly written/nonsense one to rather report it than leave a reply.
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March 25, 2023, 10:36:09 PM Last edit: March 26, 2023, 11:10:18 AM by Accardo |
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Get ready to often read posts with more than 4000 words. A month is too much, do you mean after a newbie introduces himself on the beginners and help board, they can make their next post in one month. How do you expect them to relay what brought them into the forum. what if the user prefers the board? how about the local boards too? your suggestion is like a security level for a community battling with strenuous spamming. On the contrary, It can promote account farming instead, members could create different accounts to be eligible to post on their desired boards. Looking at the responses, I think everyone including me understands your point, but it shouldn't be, what is important is the quality of the posts and the content it conveys to readers.
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Most of the creation of a bunch of topics comes from beginners. For the most part, I'm sure the themes are meant to attract merit. You can verify this by looking at the very subject of the new topic. These are mostly recurring questions that are created regularly. A beginner, if desired and lacking laziness, could easily find answers to his questions. But it was the beginners who had the opinion that the more often they are in sight, the more likely they are to merit a few merits. Talking about allowing new threads after 10 merits would be a good idea, but here, we're equating a good and genuine newbie with a spammer. You can watch how the most active spammers, who create dozens of topics, sooner or later disappear, having made this or that mistake. Therefore, if someone is bothered by topics from one person, it is very easy to get rid of them by clicking the ignore button.
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The proposal is welcome but certain boards need to be kept alive by some of these guys but for the sake of not having one or two guys filling up the whole board with their work, I suppose this privilege can be limited by rank like what happens with signature space... For example; Newbies can be limited to 3 topics a month then increases with rank eg, Jr member -6, Member -9, Full member -12, SR Member 15 and this goes on unless this doesn't ractify the problem adjustments can be made. Better yet, a limit per week can be fixed like say 3 topics per week and does not carry over. As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
This could work just not sure if this is a practical solution tbh, and as a curator why not be entitled to merit on a board that sees users getting merit on these topics created ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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March 26, 2023, 06:26:33 AM |
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While I understand your point, I don't agree with the idea presented by the OP. Newbies already have a time limitation to make new posts. It makes no sense to increase this time. This will only drive more users away from the forum instead of bringing in more.
It is true that this can lead to abuse by experienced users, but who like to spread spam without tarnishing their name. Unfortunately, there isn't much we can do about it, just continue to report this spam to moderators and try to identify the real source of this spam to report it.
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March 26, 2023, 06:59:04 AM |
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A troll-account trying to restrict others. Let's not do that.
If a topic is spam, just report it. If it's not spam, it can stay.
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March 26, 2023, 12:53:36 PM |
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Why should topic restrictions be put in place, you sound negative and are questioning the functionality of a forum. The more the topics are more the members would be engaged. You are trying to change the concept of a forum. Of course, an unnecessary topic should be reported to the moderators for them to decide.
I think if you want more engaging topics to be part of the forum then you would need help from signature campaign BM. I have seen a lot of signature campaign members who got merits airdropped only replying on a thread and not creating any topics. As there is nothing written on the Signature campaign ANN about it. I think the BMs should make it compulsory like a minimum of 5 topics required in a month for getting selected and the same for staying in the campaign.
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