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Question: Is it necessary to limit the speed of creating topics
Yes. One topic in one section in one month.
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March 26, 2023, 01:38:49 PM
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The proposal is: to prohibit (may be programmatically) creating more than one topic in one section in one month.
Reason: some sections are occupied by the same authors. Authors abuse the ability to create new topics.
Examples:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=128.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0

As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
This is a discussion forum and what happens here is discussion. You shouldn't restrict anyone on how often he should discuss. If you don't like the topics they are creating ignore them and scroll pass. If you feel that particular user is posting rubbish, include the user in your ignore list.
If you feel their posts are generally shit and  shammy, report to the moderators and it is as simple as that.
Theymos will not buy the idea of chocking here with unnecessary rules that will limit participation.

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March 26, 2023, 01:59:07 PM
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For example; Newbies can be limited to 3 topics a month then increases with rank eg, Jr member -6, Member -9, Full member -12, SR Member 15 and this goes on unless this doesn't ractify the problem adjustments can be made.
It's bad to limit newbies. Some newbies are only at newbie rank in the forum but they are actually experts in this space.

Do you want to limit Discoveries of the forum like nullius (a first discovery of forum after the merit system kick-off), bullrun2020, n0nce, PowerGlove etc. I am sure more newbies like them will join the forum in future and they will not like the proposed restrictions against them.

I am against OP and your proposals.

Use this [Unofficial Guide] Reporting effectively when you see bad topics.

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March 26, 2023, 10:56:00 PM
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You seee .....one of the CORE values that has been made to rule every process or means of operation in here is FREEDOM ....no matter what Is done in here, its imperative to understand that people have equal rights to ask questions outta Thier inquisitions... it's very unethical to complain that peeps don't even make 'em post, talk more of complaining that they make them too much; if they feel they've got 50 different solid topics to make in a day, no one is gonna ask why they should...as long as they ain't just typing tautology, or saying the same thing in different threads.

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March 27, 2023, 01:35:26 AM
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I do not like the proposal, it would restrict many sections, like the newbies & Help, the Altcoin section and even the marketplace for those seeking for a loan.
If the topics were restricted, the activity of the Spanish section (and I assume the same would happen with other local boards) would decrease significantly, because it is usual some of my colleagues there start a new thread whenever they find news or a topic which is deemed to be worth of a separate place to discuss about it.

And of course, I am not talking about newbies, but Legendary and Heroes.  Wink

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March 27, 2023, 01:54:14 PM
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As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
People are here to learn new things regarding bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. New people may even nit have any idea what the hell is merit. To create topics for their queries, you will force them to earn merit. Did I understand your points correctly? If so, I think this is a shit idea. People may have a lot of questions to learn for which they would need to create a few topics a week. How would this help them?
You should know that theymos don't like a lot of such restrictions, otherwise, we may see newbie jail too.
I recall that in our local section there used to be a small restriction: newbies could only write in the newbies section and only then it became possible to write in other sections too. OP offers to return to something old? If this restriction was removed, then why invent new ones?

The principle of ranking topics will put everything in its place. Good topics will move to the top, while bad topics will slide to the very bottom. So, this is quite enough.

I think the proposed restrictions would be redundant.

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March 27, 2023, 03:07:38 PM
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If it were the case that people have the right to know one thing every month and they or their minds desire to know something new every month then your argument would be correct. But people always try to learn something new. Now tried to know one thing and he knows about it now his step will be to know next things. So I don't see anything wrong in making more than one topic a month for people to know. But if people are spamming against forum rules instead of knowing then it should be banned. But if someone has created more than one topic per month in the forum with the intention of knowing then we should help him and inform the person who expressed interest to know about it.
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March 27, 2023, 03:22:48 PM
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As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits

How then will the newbies have the opportunity to create topices since they are just new to the forum and they mostly ask questions so they can learn and not go about making silly mistakes? Secondly, if 10 merits becomes the only way a user can create new topic the forum will only become enjoyable to old users because they have the opportunity of getting more merit than new users who only depend on asking questions and waiting for contribution from other users. On a second thought, I think the forum is a bit balanced the way it is because off topics are seen in the off topic which means no matter how many topics are created in one day, once it is dected to belong to off topic it will surely be taken there.

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March 27, 2023, 03:29:40 PM
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The proposal is: to prohibit (may be programmatically) creating more than one topic in one section in one month.
Reason: some sections are occupied by the same authors.

This isn't the solution because one can get more than two topics the needed to have a new thread discussion upon, does that mean such user will be restricted or limited to the amount of topics he can create when he's seeing alot of opportunities in bringing up something new? Actually if you're talking about spamming a d other related abuses a member can engage doing doesn't mean we should go by this approach, is everyone posting consecutive threads creating new topics a spammer? That's why the forum has moderators on each board whereby any topic not worth it will be moved to off topic or deleted.

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Because the examples the OP gave are on press board and political board especially on local Russian board, I don't see a problem as long as the poster understands the rules and doesn't break them. I personally don't agree if it has to be limited, but spam and anything that violates it will be handled according to the rules.

If it's spam, plagiarism or anything against the rules, then the solution is to report it to moderator. Let them handle it.

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The proposal is: to prohibit (may be programmatically) creating more than one topic in one section in one month.
Reason: some sections are occupied by the same authors. Authors abuse the ability to create new topics.
Examples:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=128.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0

As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
Some sections are mostly occupied by spammers. And these spammers don't care about merit, they just spam the entire forum with useless threads. I keep an eye on them and my conclusion is that there are some users who register alt accounts, create spam threads in Bitcoin Discussion board and then post nonsense replies from their main accounts. Their replies are still nonsense but at least they manage to get some merits once in a while or some of them get it on local boards where people from the same country help each-other to rank.

To my mind, this limitation will just push them to create new alt accounts and post from them. It's also meaningless to limit newbies to open thread because some of them come here to get help and support and I think forum owner will leave this forum as free as possible.

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There is no problem in doing more than one standard topic or learning topic in a month. But doing one irrelevant topic a month is a problem. Many times it is seen that a very simple topic is created in the forum to know that the simple topics are easily known by searching on Google, I think they are unnecessary. So there is no point in creating topics on these unnecessary topics. But it is good for the forum if all the topics that are informative are posted more than once a month. Because by reading those posts, others can get ideas about different things. If someone creates a topic on a topic that he can't find out about anywhere other than the forum, he can create more than one topic per month if he wants.

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March 31, 2023, 02:11:08 PM
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There is no problem in doing more than one standard topic or learning topic in a month. But doing one irrelevant topic a month is a problem. Many times it is seen that a very simple topic is created in the forum to know that the simple topics are easily known by searching on Google, I think they are unnecessary. So there is no point in creating topics on these unnecessary topics. But it is good for the forum if all the topics that are informative are posted more than once a month. Because by reading those posts, others can get ideas about different things. If someone creates a topic on a topic that he can't find out about anywhere other than the forum, he can create more than one topic per month if he wants.

Also there are a lot of new topics which is the same goals in older topics and also we notice that there are many users until now Copying others work and post it here without citing the source which is bad ideas to to share thier knowledge. But as long as we can create a new topics that very helpful and not copied from anyone's work then we can freely create and post it here. The best thing to so before creating topics is we need to search it first in order to prevent duplication fr other ideas.

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March 31, 2023, 05:02:43 PM
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one of the CORE values that has been made to rule every process or means of operation in here is FREEDOM

If bitcoin which is the major subject matter for every of our gathering here is all about freedom then why shouldn't the forum gives it out as well on it members to find it an easy task to express themselves on any areas they have interest either by asking a question or suggesting an idea or passing an information needed to get across to other bitcoiners all over the world, since this forum is well moderated then i see no reason why we should take further action in limiting how far one can go on the forum, just post less quality post and the topic or reply ended up being deleted, simple as that.

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The proposal is: to prohibit (may be programmatically) creating more than one topic in one section in one month.
Reason: some sections are occupied by the same authors. Authors abuse the ability to create new topics.
Examples:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=128.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=91.0

As an alternative: make it possible to create a new topic after receiving 10 new merits
Your suggestion is not a bad idea because it can stop these unnecessary duplications of posts. But all you have to do when you see these infringements are to report them to the moderator of the section and it will be handled accordingly. I am sure if your observation is genuine such a post will be deleted.

This suggestion will also hinder creativity and innovation. I have seen many members that creates more than five threads in a week and all of them are unique, interesting, and educating. Your request is like limiting the number of times students are permitted to ask questions. This forum is like a school where people are given the limitless privilege to ask questions even when it might seem irrelevant to some users.

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Your suggestion is not a bad idea because it can stop these unnecessary duplications of posts.
No, it should be a bad idea if they didn't break any rules. If you find duplicate post or some sort of rule violation, please report it to moderator and it will solve the problem instead of limiting people from making multiple posts or thread.

This suggestion will also hinder creativity and innovation.
Then you deny it yourself, but you support the idea.

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You make a valid point about users creating too many unnecessary topics on a board. When we look at this case, it only happens a few times a month in the forum, which may be insignificant to me. As a newbie in this case, I have only recently joined the forum and I may have many questions that cannot be asked on a single topic; however, as time passes, I become more interested in learning more, which causes me to ask more questions. If there are any limitations, it will take me 6 months in the forum to learn what I should have learned in 3 weeks that’s if I'm a fast learner. This idea can’t be practiced as it causes more harm than good.

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Your suggestion is not a bad idea because it can stop these unnecessary duplications of posts.
No, it should be a bad idea if they didn't break any rules. If you find duplicate post or some sort of rule violation, please report it to moderator and it will solve the problem instead of limiting people from making multiple posts or thread.

This suggestion will also hinder creativity and innovation.
Then you deny it yourself, but you support the idea.
I really appreciate your honest response but I don't think it is a good idea to judge a post by just quoting one sentence. It would have been proper to read the entire post and rate the person's comment based on his points and not just one of them this is because a sentence might not portray the comprehensive position of the writer. I agreed that his suggestion will reduce spam because spammer's freedom to create many topics will be reduced to a large extent. Furthermore, I rejected this idea and my reasons for that were also included in the post. I totally agree that moderators should handle the situation.

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This is not nice and fair in my opinion. Limiting post per month would erase the purpose of forum for learning as there is no limit to what one can learn. Also, making merits a requirement for posting will lead to merit trade and abuse. As for the example you cited above are culled from local board and you don't expect local board to have hundreds of posters when they are limited number of people there.
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Great idea. Anything that makes it easier for sockpuppeting and account-farming little shits to spam the forum should be implemented as soon as possible, like tomorrow.

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