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August 19, 2023, 11:03:14 AM
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I can honestly say that many people around me have complained about the radical change efforts on twitter. maybe Musk's mistake is that he can't tell us exactly the platform he wants to create. but people don't seem to want any other innovation on twitter except for minor improvements. i think he wants to make it a platform where more crypto aware people can use it and get some work done, but i think it's too early for that. as you said, millions of ordinary people use this platform and he should make it a more democratic and user request based platform instead of using it like a rich kid playing with his toy. otherwise this decline will continue.
Many users are lost from Twitter due to Twitter's name and logo change. Personally speaking, I find it very bad now.  And now I ignore Twitter. That's exactly how many users are leaving Twitter. This is a wrong decision of Elon Musk on the other hand now anyone can buy a verified badge in exchange of money on Twitter due to which now many fake accounts are also getting verified badge.  Due to this, it is becoming difficult to find a legal company's Twitter page.  This is another fault of Twitter.  I don't know why Elon Musk is doing this.  I personally condemn it

Take McDonalds rebranding for example. Search in google how McDonalds looked 20-40-60 years ago. They have completely change the way their restaurants look, the way employees look (uniform), the way menu look (wrapping and etc). Do you think less people started to visit McDonalds or change their taste? Imho every company needs a rebranding. Standing on one place, while industry is walking forward is wrong. Rebranding was needed. In fact, Elon has changed only the logo. Everything else stayed the same. Users habits remained the same. Every single button is on a same place.

I get what you mean but having Twitter and McDonalds or other fast-food chains isn't really a good comparison to begin with. They are both going for a re-branding, yes that is good, but it should have limits, and Twitter got itself twisted because the logo has fully changed without any trace, at all, that it was once the Twitter we knew and that is one of the reasons why they are losing users and as the analyst says, the drop will continue towards 2024 if they cannot find any way to resolve their problems.

Just because you stopped using twitter doesn't mean others are doing the same and not to mention it is attracting new users. The people I'm following on Twitter are even more active thanks to the free speech or Twitter's revenue sharing policy for users, and I don't see any data reporting that the user is leaving the social network since it changed the logo. I know Twitter's blue bird logo is ingrained in our minds, and we get annoyed when it gets changed but that's no reason to think Elon is making a mistake. Don't forget that he is someone who has successfully run many companies and brands. He knows how to please his customers, don't criticize him for just a few small changes. Instead, wait and see what happens with this social network.

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August 19, 2023, 06:42:24 PM
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Well there is a big part of twitter that is going to go away. Elon Musk has said that there will be no more blocking of accounts. We will only be allowed to block DM's.

I do not know how I feel about this. If there is a person that is bothering someone I think he can have a right to block him.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-says-x-will-strip-ability-block-accounts-2023-08-19/

We know the downside of this situation, so it might be a problem if we can't block someone who is bothering us. But this situation also has a plus side. Increased interaction in X also increases the amount of money you can earn. Many large accounts will have increased their interaction with the opening of the accounts they have blocked.

Of course, the number of people who prefer this is not very large, and it is not right to impose such an obligation. I prefer accounts that I have blocked to stay that way. This should be offered as an option.
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August 19, 2023, 11:36:10 PM
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Well there is a big part of twitter that is going to go away. Elon Musk has said that there will be no more blocking of accounts. We will only be allowed to block DM's.

I do not know how I feel about this. If there is a person that is bothering someone I think he can have a right to block him.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-says-x-will-strip-ability-block-accounts-2023-08-19/

I think his idea is that Twitter is supposed to be a place where everyone is supposed to be free to say what they think and those ideas are supposed to flow as much as possible, even among people who do not necessarily agree with one another or even dislike one another.

On the other hand, the capacity of being able to block accounts is such a basic feature which so many people have taken for granted for so long, that it could lead more people not to participate as actively as they usually do, because they would see in their feed people who they would rather to ignore completely.

I don't know how he thought this was going to be a good idea...

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August 20, 2023, 12:05:08 AM
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Well there is a big part of twitter that is going to go away. Elon Musk has said that there will be no more blocking of accounts. We will only be allowed to block DM's.

I do not know how I feel about this. If there is a person that is bothering someone I think he can have a right to block him.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-says-x-will-strip-ability-block-accounts-2023-08-19/

That means elon just wanna see you ignore him without block his account. Elon wants twitter to be as free as possible for anyone. Even though this idea looked like a nonsense idea to let people or someone who bothering us keep showing in our feed. Elon was just making so many changes. There are lots of people who keep using it even though they gonna face accounts that bother them. Many debates will be coming up again as haters can't be blocked. It's a smart idea to increase the interaction on the platforms. There will be a never-ending debate on twitter. Like it or not, this will give an advantage to twitter.

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August 20, 2023, 01:05:29 AM
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Well there is a big part of twitter that is going to go away. Elon Musk has said that there will be no more blocking of accounts. We will only be allowed to block DM's.

I do not know how I feel about this. If there is a person that is bothering someone I think he can have a right to block him.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-says-x-will-strip-ability-block-accounts-2023-08-19/

That means elon just wanna see you ignore him without block his account. Elon wants twitter to be as free as possible for anyone. Even though this idea looked like a nonsense idea to let people or someone who bothering us keep showing in our feed. Elon was just making so many changes. There are lots of people who keep using it even though they gonna face accounts that bother them. Many debates will be coming up again as haters can't be blocked. It's a smart idea to increase the interaction on the platforms. There will be a never-ending debate on twitter. Like it or not, this will give an advantage to twitter.
It will surely cause a lot of interaction and gather attention for the platform. However, it is not far-fetched to state that the possible change of removing the block feature for the social media application is too much of a change. In every social media platform, there is each user has the right to block any account they wish to. It is a feature that allows users to feel safe online as they can avoid suspicious accounts. Hence, it cannot be ignored that many, if not all, are against this change.

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August 22, 2023, 08:05:28 PM
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Today is the first day people receive money from Twitter's revenue sharing policy, I am seeing people showing off the money they received from Elon. Although the amount is not too large, it shows that Elon is gradually reshaping this social network and I believe it is gradually becoming more complete. Unlike a lot of people who are criticizing him for killing Twitter, on the contrary, what I find is that it is becoming more attractive.

You are right, if he is not intelligent and talented, how can he be the wealthiest man in the world? But funny is that there are a lot of idiots out there who are jealous of him and always speak badly of him.

I also believe that by taking over Twitter he knows that the prospects that will be obtained are very large, a strange thing as an entrepreneur would buy something with the aim of wanting to lose and it would be impossible for the famous Elon Musk to do it with very detailed calculations.
actually the way he's been doing it so far by continuing to make changes on Twitter, is a way to provide opportunities for many pros and cons to continue to talk about, this is a very effective and cheap advertisement that can be done so that Twitter becomes trending,
agree, elon musk is smart and visionary [expansive insight into the future], he is able to make whatever he wants to do famous and generate profits to continue to make him rich.

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I also believe that by taking over Twitter he knows that the prospects that will be obtained are very large, a strange thing as an entrepreneur would buy something with the aim of wanting to lose and it would be impossible for the famous Elon Musk to do it with very detailed calculations.
actually the way he's been doing it so far by continuing to make changes on Twitter, is a way to provide opportunities for many pros and cons to continue to talk about, this is a very effective and cheap advertisement that can be done so that Twitter becomes trending,
agree, elon musk is smart and visionary [expansive insight into the future], he is able to make whatever he wants to do famous and generate profits to continue to make him rich.
I think it's a little early to admit this since Musk's projects are still under construction and we don't know what results his strange choices will lead to. These options have become somewhat strange, especially with regard to everything related to Twitter, since he began using it to publish tweets in support of the Dodge currency.
The SpaceX project is still unable to reap profits, and this may happen after the year 2030 during the next decade, which is of course not certain.
The Tesla project suffers from increasing technical problems, the most important of which is the battery production crisis, which could cause the cessation of car production if China decides to change its policy in this market, which it controls globally.
I don't know any of the projects that Elon Musk is running that are currently profitable.
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I also believe that by taking over Twitter he knows that the prospects that will be obtained are very large, a strange thing as an entrepreneur would buy something with the aim of wanting to lose and it would be impossible for the famous Elon Musk to do it with very detailed calculations.
actually the way he's been doing it so far by continuing to make changes on Twitter, is a way to provide opportunities for many pros and cons to continue to talk about, this is a very effective and cheap advertisement that can be done so that Twitter becomes trending,
agree, elon musk is smart and visionary [expansive insight into the future], he is able to make whatever he wants to do famous and generate profits to continue to make him rich.
I think it's a little early to admit this since Musk's projects are still under construction and we don't know what results his strange choices will lead to. These options have become somewhat strange, especially with regard to everything related to Twitter, since he began using it to publish tweets in support of the Dodge currency.
The SpaceX project is still unable to reap profits, and this may happen after the year 2030 during the next decade, which is of course not certain.
The Tesla project suffers from increasing technical problems, the most important of which is the battery production crisis, which could cause the cessation of car production if China decides to change its policy in this market, which it controls globally.
I don't know any of the projects that Elon Musk is running that are currently profitable.
Elon Musk struggling to reap profits out of his projects were getting delayed. At some point his thoughts will come true. His thoughts were different from the common man, not as a billionaire but from his early days of life. In every project there is some issue and he had been making use of available resources to make it successful. Now his involvement into Twitter is the reason for the downturn. Once after acquiring he could've left it to function for few years, in between he could've made changes.

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I also believe that by taking over Twitter he knows that the prospects that will be obtained are very large, a strange thing as an entrepreneur would buy something with the aim of wanting to lose and it would be impossible for the famous Elon Musk to do it with very detailed calculations.
actually the way he's been doing it so far by continuing to make changes on Twitter, is a way to provide opportunities for many pros and cons to continue to talk about, this is a very effective and cheap advertisement that can be done so that Twitter becomes trending,
agree, elon musk is smart and visionary [expansive insight into the future], he is able to make whatever he wants to do famous and generate profits to continue to make him rich.
I think it's a little early to admit this since Musk's projects are still under construction and we don't know what results his strange choices will lead to. These options have become somewhat strange, especially with regard to everything related to Twitter, since he began using it to publish tweets in support of the Dodge currency.
The SpaceX project is still unable to reap profits, and this may happen after the year 2030 during the next decade, which is of course not certain.
The Tesla project suffers from increasing technical problems, the most important of which is the battery production crisis, which could cause the cessation of car production if China decides to change its policy in this market, which it controls globally.
I don't know any of the projects that Elon Musk is running that are currently profitable.
Elon Musk struggling to reap profits out of his projects were getting delayed. At some point his thoughts will come true. His thoughts were different from the common man, not as a billionaire but from his early days of life. In every project there is some issue and he had been making use of available resources to make it successful. Now his involvement into Twitter is the reason for the downturn. Once after acquiring he could've left it to function for few years, in between he could've made changes.
Having an expansive insight into the future doesn't really man that he is a successful person or that his projects are an absolute success. Actually, all what he does is playing with the money of investors + big amount credits from banks with a high interest rate. The Twitter deal might not be his worst choice if he did not interfere in the affairs of management, but he started implementing major decisions without having sufficient experience in this niche. And it seems that he woke up late to appoint a new CEO for the company in an attempt to overcome the decline that the company is going through at all levels.
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It is very difficult to understand what Elon Musk actually wants to do with Twitter, I saw a few days ago that he changed the Twitter loggo.  Since buying the popular social media platform Twitter, he has laid off many employees.  I doubt he really planned to sell $20B for all the stock he had with Twitter. I think the huge amount of money he bought the Twitter platform would certainly serve his purpose.  I don't believe Twitter is going to collapse because Elon Musk is not one to give up so easily.  Of course he's thinking of some new changes to take Twitter one step further.

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It is very difficult to understand what Elon Musk actually wants to do with Twitter, I saw a few days ago that he changed the Twitter loggo. 
It's now X.

Since buying the popular social media platform Twitter, he has laid off many employees.  I doubt he really planned to sell $20B for all the stock he had with Twitter. I think the huge amount of money he bought the Twitter platform would certainly serve his purpose.  I don't believe Twitter is going to collapse because Elon Musk is not one to give up so easily. 
If he's going to sell it from the half amount of his purchase. It's likely that he'll only sell the half of his stocks/shares from it. And AFAIK, that acquisition is still costing him to pay it continuously up til' now.

Of course he's thinking of some new changes to take Twitter one step further.
He wants it to be an all-in app/website.

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It is very difficult to understand what Elon Musk actually wants to do with Twitter, I saw a few days ago that he changed the Twitter loggo. 
It's now X.

Since buying the popular social media platform Twitter, he has laid off many employees.  I doubt he really planned to sell $20B for all the stock he had with Twitter. I think the huge amount of money he bought the Twitter platform would certainly serve his purpose.  I don't believe Twitter is going to collapse because Elon Musk is not one to give up so easily. 
If he's going to sell it from the half amount of his purchase. It's likely that he'll only sell the half of his stocks/shares from it. And AFAIK, that acquisition is still costing him to pay it continuously up til' now.

Of course he's thinking of some new changes to take Twitter one step further.
He wants it to be an all-in app/website.
If we say whether Twitter has collapsed or not, in my opinion, Twitter has collapsed since Elon Musk's entry into management, now it has changed to X, and yes, the media platform that we have known for a long time, called Twitter, has disappeared. was built a long time ago and is well known to remote areas, now it has collapsed.

how do you think the app and website work? even though to be honest he doesn't need to change the brand that has been built for a long time, he just needs to add the existing facilities on Twitter and or have integration with the new platform he is developing so that it is related so that it has a broad scope, isn't it better like that?

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Well Elon Musk now has to worry about the other company of his. Now the US DOJ is suing his company SpaceX cause of discrimination.

It is against refugees the company refused to hire from their status. I do not know if this will effect twitter but it is more pressure for Elon Musk.

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If we say whether Twitter has collapsed or not, in my opinion, Twitter has collapsed since Elon Musk's entry into management, now it has changed to X, and yes, the media platform that we have known for a long time, called Twitter, has disappeared. was built a long time ago and is well known to remote areas, now it has collapsed.
The drastic changes after Elon's acquisition to Twitter was noticeable. There have been good but mostly bad changes from him.

how do you think the app and website work? even though to be honest he doesn't need to change the brand that has been built for a long time, he just needs to add the existing facilities on Twitter and or have integration with the new platform he is developing so that it is related so that it has a broad scope, isn't it better like that?
Well, change is constant and there's no permanent especially on this modern digital time where every website has their own pace.

He has bought it so most of the changes will be from there and I doubt it that he's willing to collaborate it with another company and I don't know if he's got one that suits it.

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It is very difficult to understand what Elon Musk actually wants to do with Twitter, I saw a few days ago that he changed the Twitter loggo. 
It's now X.

Since buying the popular social media platform Twitter, he has laid off many employees.  I doubt he really planned to sell $20B for all the stock he had with Twitter. I think the huge amount of money he bought the Twitter platform would certainly serve his purpose.  I don't believe Twitter is going to collapse because Elon Musk is not one to give up so easily. 
If he's going to sell it from the half amount of his purchase. It's likely that he'll only sell the half of his stocks/shares from it. And AFAIK, that acquisition is still costing him to pay it continuously up til' now.

Of course he's thinking of some new changes to take Twitter one step further.
He wants it to be an all-in app/website.
If we say whether Twitter has collapsed or not, in my opinion, Twitter has collapsed since Elon Musk's entry into management, now it has changed to X, and yes, the media platform that we have known for a long time, called Twitter, has disappeared. was built a long time ago and is well known to remote areas, now it has collapsed.

how do you think the app and website work? even though to be honest he doesn't need to change the brand that has been built for a long time, he just needs to add the existing facilities on Twitter and or have integration with the new platform he is developing so that it is related so that it has a broad scope, isn't it better like that?
Its none of our business on how he would really be making use of his money whether buying up currently existing social media companies or whatever companies that he would really be liking on purchasing and since

he's a billionaire then it wont really be that so hard on doing so. If ever we do see that this new management do make out some changes then its none of our business on how they would really be handling it out
whether if they would be retaining previous owners or management set up or would really be completely overhauling and apply out new set of rules and terms which it would really be always according
to their preference. If Elon Musks new management do fail on handling Twitter then we would really be able to see its fall but for now there are still lots or tons of people who do make use of this platform.

I dont see for it to fall anytime soon unless if there would really be some huge issue then it might be. Renaming and adding up those blue check or whatever it would be then it
would really be in accordance with their preference.

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Personal I think what he did wrong was changing the entire company system and rules .in fact he just changed everything so many restrictions and I guess that's why majority of advertising firms stopped advertising there.  He just fucked up thinking everything could go his way. He should have followed the system a little and make changes more slowly. Even tho he is a genius ill say its not a very smart move from him 'Mr Twitter destroyer' Grin
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Personal I think what he did wrong was changing the entire company system and rules .in fact he just changed everything so many restrictions and I guess that's why majority of advertising firms stopped advertising there.  He just fucked up thinking everything could go his way. He should have followed the system a little and make changes more slowly. Even tho he is a genius ill say its not a very smart move from him 'Mr Twitter destroyer' Grin

I wouldn't go as far as saying that he changed everything in its entirety as there is still the main purpose of Twitter (now called X). There are just some changes that he made that are questionable in the perception or users and businessmen. However, X is still far from falling as many artists, actors and actresses, public figures, and brands are using it to promote and connect with their community and target audience. However, it is safe to say that Elon did some changes that made users unhappy for sure.

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Personal I think what he did wrong was changing the entire company system and rules .in fact he just changed everything so many restrictions and I guess that's why majority of advertising firms stopped advertising there.  He just fucked up thinking everything could go his way. He should have followed the system a little and make changes more slowly. Even tho he is a genius ill say its not a very smart move from him 'Mr Twitter destroyer' Grin

I wouldn't go as far as saying that he changed everything in its entirety as there is still the main purpose of Twitter (now called X). There are just some changes that he made that are questionable in the perception or users and businessmen. However, X is still far from falling as many artists, actors and actresses, public figures, and brands are using it to promote and connect with their community and target audience. However, it is safe to say that Elon did some changes that made users unhappy for sure.
Since Elon Musk bought Twitter, it has drawn criticism. Former Twitter employees were also laid off. It was at that time that many of them could sense that big changes were coming to Twitter. Twitter is a very popular platform in the world of social media platform and users are very comfortable using this platform but nowadays most of the users are not comfortable with the change of logo and name of Twitter. But as big celebrities and common people are used to using this platform, it cannot be said that it will collapse either. But I will also say with you that users are not very happy with this change.

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Personal I think what he did wrong was changing the entire company system and rules .in fact he just changed everything so many restrictions and I guess that's why majority of advertising firms stopped advertising there.  He just fucked up thinking everything could go his way. He should have followed the system a little and make changes more slowly. Even tho he is a genius ill say its not a very smart move from him 'Mr Twitter destroyer' Grin

Whatever you say here, Elon Musk will not hear it either, let alone believe you. Because the Twitter platform now belongs to Elon Musk, he is free to do whatever he wants and he could even destroy the Twitter platform as badly as he wants. Twitter platform users could provide better suggestions to Elon Musk, but Elon Musk also has the right to reject these suggestions and users also don't need to hope that their suggestions will be well received by Elon Musk.

You have to be able to separate someone's desires from someone's business goals because besides Elon Musk who already has the right to change the entire company system and regulations, you also have to know that Elon Musk is a businessman who will continue to do everything as long as his business can run smoothly and get good profits. very much although on the other hand it can invite more criticism from the users of the Twitter platform itself.

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August 28, 2023, 03:33:47 PM
 #320

Personal I think what he did wrong was changing the entire company system and rules .in fact he just changed everything so many restrictions and I guess that's why majority of advertising firms stopped advertising there.  He just fucked up thinking everything could go his way. He should have followed the system a little and make changes more slowly. Even tho he is a genius ill say its not a very smart move from him 'Mr Twitter destroyer' Grin
well at the beginning of the acquisition he keeps saying that twitter is fully infested with bots, and thats true honestly.
I guess thats why he changed things around a lot nowadays with the twitter even go such lengths of renaming the entire company and logo.
but the question is, is that really a bad decision coming from elon though? by changing around the system he might have reduced the cost to make the company runs.
also he is trying hard to eliminate the bots to go as far as publishing the algorithm to find out bots in open source with hopes that it could be further advanced by the open source community.
many said that elon is doing 4d chess right now.

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