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October 05, 2023, 04:05:57 PM
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the last news I heard was that Elon Musk is going to make a paid version of twitter because the current version contains a lot of bots that he can't even handle so he decided to make a paid version. I'm sure many people will leave Twitter if that really happens. I would prefer not to use Twitter again if that happens. I hope Elon Musk will think again about the worse impacts of making Twitter paid.
Yes, that's also the most recent news I heard regarding Twitter (now called X). Although I get where he's coming from since bots have been a long-term issue with that social media platform for such a long time now. Recently tho, it has been causing more problems as more and more users are being victimized by these bots regarding bad promotions and negative campaigns. However, I don't think turning the free social media platform into a paid one is the best action here since, much like you have stated, users will most likely leave the platform and opt for a different one. Personally, I wouldn't choose to pay to have access to it especially since I know it will only grant me the basic features of the platform that I have enjoyed freely for years.

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October 05, 2023, 04:41:52 PM
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October 05, 2023, 04:58:31 PM
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As someone who uses twitter every single day for work, I have to say it is getting even worse nowadays. I keep tab on whats going on in the crypto world and the amount of irrelevant posts I see on the home page grows bigger and bigger. In fact, I am sure that irrelevant posts are a lot more than relevant ones. You can always go pick "following" if you want to, but that only limits to who you follow and what they posted, "for you" should be regarding what I am interested in, and as a person who has over a thousand people I follow, its obvious that all of them are crypto and I should be seeing more finance and crypto related stuff, not some highlights of a football game, certainly not a small one neither, I get that if its like world cup finals then yeah show it to everyone, but why am I seeing bottom table serie A game goal highlights. Its getting more and more broken every single day.

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October 05, 2023, 09:56:43 PM
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Elon Musk is Top-notch in his abilities and moves.
I think there is a target behind every actions and he might come up with a big hints someday.

I know it has been a big challenge to many users.
Mostly he might be scared of defeat so he's taking it so lightly like nothing is wrong but he should come up with good inputs to all of this as it's  not helping.
That made me chuckle. What abilities and moves are those? Ability for hostal takeover? He most likely just destroyed twitter, and frankly that makes me sad as i started to like it before all this.

I am just hoping that someone with half a brain buys that from him. At this point i would even welcome CZ to buy it. At least then we knew what we get.

Imagine if elon the felon took twitter from private to public again. Marketcap would dump so low it would be embarassment next to any company, or elmo would just manipulate the price, and later get sued by it.

Good read:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/elon-musk-killed-twitter-one-year-1234840622/

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October 06, 2023, 06:24:25 AM
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I was wondering if all these reports of Twitter losing users and being a total failure thanks to Musk might be exaggerated but I looked at the numbers on SimilarWeb, which is a pretty reliable source of website traffic, and it does indeed show a sharp drop. Some of it might be bot traffic but if Musk was doing such a great job you would see an increase in genuine users and the drop off wouldn't be so dramatic.

 

As someone who uses twitter every single day for work, I have to say it is getting even worse nowadays. I keep tab on whats going on in the crypto world and the amount of irrelevant posts I see on the home page grows bigger and bigger. In fact, I am sure that irrelevant posts are a lot more than relevant ones. You can always go pick "following" if you want to, but that only limits to who you follow and what they posted, "for you" should be regarding what I am interested in, and as a person who has over a thousand people I follow, its obvious that all of them are crypto and I should be seeing more finance and crypto related stuff, not some highlights of a football game, certainly not a small one neither, I get that if its like world cup finals then yeah show it to everyone, but why am I seeing bottom table serie A game goal highlights. Its getting more and more broken every single day.

The For You feed is awful and the Following feed only sorts tweets in chronological order so if you follow lots of people you will miss out on important tweets if you don't scroll down far enough. The reason why there are so many irrelevant posts showing up in people's feeds is because they are trying to disguise ads as organic posts. Even while using an ad blocker and using the web version I started seeing posts for electric vehicles even though I have no interest in them whatsoever. Unlabeled ads go against FTC regulation so we will see if they decide to take action.

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October 06, 2023, 10:21:45 AM
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Elon Musk is Top-notch in his abilities and moves.
I think there is a target behind every actions and he might come up with a big hints someday.

I know it has been a big challenge to many users.
Mostly he might be scared of defeat so he's taking it so lightly like nothing is wrong but he should come up with good inputs to all of this as it's  not helping.
That made me chuckle. What abilities and moves are those? Ability for hostal takeover? He most likely just destroyed twitter, and frankly that makes me sad as i started to like it before all this.

I am just hoping that someone with half a brain buys that from him. At this point i would even welcome CZ to buy it. At least then we knew what we get.

Imagine if elon the felon took twitter from private to public again. Marketcap would dump so low it would be embarassment next to any company, or elmo would just manipulate the price, and later get sued by it.

Good read:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-commentary/elon-musk-killed-twitter-one-year-1234840622/

Sadly, I believe his ego would not allow him to either sell the company to anyone or even go public (he knows the value per share will be way lower than when he bought them). To me, for now the best option for the future of Twitter would be if he ditched his pride and stepped down as CEO of Twitter and put someone who knows what they are doing, he being then just an observer.

Hopefully, after a year or two, he could get back the valuation back where it used to be.

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I was wondering if all these reports of Twitter losing users and being a total failure thanks to Musk might be exaggerated but I looked at the numbers on SimilarWeb, which is a pretty reliable source of website traffic, and it does indeed show a sharp drop. Some of it might be bot traffic but if Musk was doing such a great job you would see an increase in genuine users and the drop off wouldn't be so dramatic.
It can change over time but it seems that many people hated Elon for such actions about the instant laying off of his employees.
This is like the protest and backlash that he's getting from that action that he did back before.
It's not surprising when many users of the great Twitter have stopped using it and also about the verified badge monthly subscription, many just didn't like it too.


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I was wondering if all these reports of Twitter losing users and being a total failure thanks to Musk might be exaggerated but I looked at the numbers on SimilarWeb, which is a pretty reliable source of website traffic, and it does indeed show a sharp drop. Some of it might be bot traffic but if Musk was doing such a great job you would see an increase in genuine users and the drop off wouldn't be so dramatic.
It can change over time but it seems that many people hated Elon for such actions about the instant laying off of his employees.
This is like the protest and backlash that he's getting from that action that he did back before.
It's not surprising when many users of the great Twitter have stopped using it and also about the verified badge monthly subscription, many just didn't like it too.


Personally, X or twitter is my favorite application of all the platforms because of its feature and services that it provides. But the time when Elon took over, a lot of things has changed, and just like the other users of the platform, I did not like the changes he made on the app. And it is not surprising to see a gradual loss in terms of the percentage of the users. One of the best features of twitter is its accessibility to news and trends, and it is not favorable for its users to be required to have monthly subscriptions just to use the application. And this is clearly evident as a lot of users had leave the platform. There are also a lot of changes that contributed on the backlash of people such as paying just for your account to be verified and its rebranding as "X". But again, we still cannot tell about the future of 'X'. It's either these changes can bring success or downfall of the platform.



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October 06, 2023, 01:50:37 PM
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Sadly, I believe his ego would not allow him to either sell the company to anyone or even go public (he knows the value per share will be way lower than when he bought them). To me, for now the best option for the future of Twitter would be if he ditched his pride and stepped down as CEO of Twitter and put someone who knows what they are doing, he being then just an observer.

Hopefully, after a year or two, he could get back the valuation back where it used to be.

I think even he has seen the writing on the wall and just had to put his pride aside if he wanted still valued the app. He has appointed Linda Yaccarino to be CEO for some months now. But apparently, stepping down as CEO didn’t make him just an observer. He’s still very active it’s almost like Linda is more or less a figure head as Elon still feels very much in charge and actively involved in the activities and running of the app.

His constant interactions with posts and with certain individuals on the app could hinder to an extent, whatever his visions may have for the app when he bought it.
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October 06, 2023, 02:03:48 PM
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I was wondering if all these reports of Twitter losing users and being a total failure thanks to Musk might be exaggerated but I looked at the numbers on SimilarWeb, which is a pretty reliable source of website traffic, and it does indeed show a sharp drop. Some of it might be bot traffic but if Musk was doing such a great job you would see an increase in genuine users and the drop off wouldn't be so dramatic.
It can change over time but it seems that many people hated Elon for such actions about the instant laying off of his employees.
This is like the protest and backlash that he's getting from that action that he did back before.
It's not surprising when many users of the great Twitter have stopped using it and also about the verified badge monthly subscription, many just didn't like it too.
Elon Musk is acting like an authoritarian leader, his actions of terminating his employees will be a ticking time bomb for Twitter's future. He tries to replace employees by relying on Bots, he seems to forget something that there are certain parts that can only be completed by humans and cannot be completed by Bots.
Many Twitter users are starting to get bored with the appearance of the Twitter application after it was acquired by Elon Musk, so they are slowly starting to rarely use the platform which is now known as X. I'm starting to assume there will be new competitors who can bring down X if Elon Musk is still too authoritarian, Moreover, I heard news about Elon Musk's intention to charge fees to users of the platform.

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October 06, 2023, 06:34:24 PM
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I was wondering if all these reports of Twitter losing users and being a total failure thanks to Musk might be exaggerated but I looked at the numbers on SimilarWeb, which is a pretty reliable source of website traffic, and it does indeed show a sharp drop. Some of it might be bot traffic but if Musk was doing such a great job you would see an increase in genuine users and the drop off wouldn't be so dramatic.
It can change over time but it seems that many people hated Elon for such actions about the instant laying off of his employees.
This is like the protest and backlash that he's getting from that action that he did back before.
It's not surprising when many users of the great Twitter have stopped using it and also about the verified badge monthly subscription, many just didn't like it too.


Personally, X or twitter is my favorite application of all the platforms because of its feature and services that it provides. But the time when Elon took over, a lot of things has changed, and just like the other users of the platform, I did not like the changes he made on the app. And it is not surprising to see a gradual loss in terms of the percentage of the users. One of the best features of twitter is its accessibility to news and trends, and it is not favorable for its users to be required to have monthly subscriptions just to use the application. And this is clearly evident as a lot of users had leave the platform. There are also a lot of changes that contributed on the backlash of people such as paying just for your account to be verified and its rebranding as "X". But again, we still cannot tell about the future of 'X'. It's either these changes can bring success or downfall of the platform.
I agree with you as much like you I am also a fan of Twitter back then. I use Twitter on a daily basis and use the platform to ensure I am updated by news and current events while also keeping connections to various communities I am a part of. However, when these changes applied by Elon Musk happened, more and more users that I used to interact with started to leave, and I have also noticed that my feed is full of random tweets from users I don't follow which makes it hard for me to see the tweets I wanna see. Lastly, the amounts of advertising tweets are too much.

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It can change over time but it seems that many people hated Elon for such actions about the instant laying off of his employees.
This is like the protest and backlash that he's getting from that action that he did back before.
It's not surprising when many users of the great Twitter have stopped using it and also about the verified badge monthly subscription, many just didn't like it too.

Personally, X or twitter is my favorite application of all the platforms because of its feature and services that it provides. But the time when Elon took over, a lot of things has changed, and just like the other users of the platform, I did not like the changes he made on the app. And it is not surprising to see a gradual loss in terms of the percentage of the users. One of the best features of twitter is its accessibility to news and trends, and it is not favorable for its users to be required to have monthly subscriptions just to use the application. And this is clearly evident as a lot of users had leave the platform. There are also a lot of changes that contributed on the backlash of people such as paying just for your account to be verified and its rebranding as "X". But again, we still cannot tell about the future of 'X'. It's either these changes can bring success or downfall of the platform.
Yeah, many didn't really like when Elon acquired it and then became involved with most of its changes.
If he just let it all go and let all the current staff do their thing and just get his hands off the platform, there can still be a lot of good things that he might receive for being the management.
But being an actual guy to does all of these changes, that's when many didn't liked it and even the name replacement.


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Twitter is the most used social media application worldwide. By buying this platform, Elon Musk did not buy a social media app. Elon Musk bought the data of millions of users. He also bought the ability to manipulate millions of users. This is the equivalent of godlike power. I think it's priceless to have that power. And I think behind closed doors there is the possibility of monetizing that power.

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October 07, 2023, 11:22:45 PM
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Sadly, I believe his ego would not allow him to either sell the company to anyone or even go public (he knows the value per share will be way lower than when he bought them). To me, for now the best option for the future of Twitter would be if he ditched his pride and stepped down as CEO of Twitter and put someone who knows what they are doing, he being then just an observer.
Well technically he is not CEO. It's Linda Yaccarino now, who is claiming that advertisers are coming back. Which is most likely a lie. But she is paper ceo anyway as musk definiltely wants to control everything. That's why he bought it.

Hopefully, after a year or two, he could get back the valuation back where it used to be.
I see no way that he would like to be out of spotlight. That's all he ever wanted, attention and acceptance. Now there's a crowd that accepts and adores him. And i am thinking that's why he bought it with overvalued price, so he could tap on that without any rules he don't like.

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Twitter (now called X).

Every time I see this I think its a mistake, their corporate value is partly contained inside that brand name.  Literally they created a new verb, their brand name became part of the English language and yet its discarded as though worthless.
  Why could they not have X and Twitter and use both at same time, I see no problem with that.  Really a move disliked by the majority of people imo and quite pointless.  
  
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advertisers are coming back

I would imagine that is true.  Doesnt have to be that this website is run perfectly for companies to want their adverts to appear on the site and its traffic of quite mainstream people, various demographics etc.   Advertising is a global marketplace, before Bitcoin came to be it was said advertising is the lifeblood of the internet because it provided revenue to sites that would have none otherwise and created content and the paid the people for it basically.  Its quite true, its a positive and also an ongoing demand companies want to pay twitter or X because it has the traffic, simple as that nobody has to conclude they like Elon Musk but I see adverts on all kinds of iffy websites and X is no worse then them.

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October 07, 2023, 11:50:22 PM
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Twitter is the most used social media application worldwide. By buying this platform, Elon Musk did not buy a social media app. Elon Musk bought the data of millions of users. He also bought the ability to manipulate millions of users. This is the equivalent of godlike power. I think it's priceless to have that power. And I think behind closed doors there is the possibility of monetizing that power.
that could be the case. but it seems so far elon just want to purely monetize those hundred millions of users that previously were considered so much waste of potential by the previous twitter management.
but so far, elon's strategy in monetizing twitter has been quite controversial honestly though he has made hundred millions out of it and his idea of selling blue tick and gold tick badge itself just already earn him some huge chunk amount of money.
i wonder what would be elon's next strategy in further monetizing the twitter, it seems quite interesting honestly seeing elon with his unique strategy.

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October 08, 2023, 10:10:34 PM
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It can change over time but it seems that many people hated Elon for such actions about the instant laying off of his employees.
This is like the protest and backlash that he's getting from that action that he did back before.
It's not surprising when many users of the great Twitter have stopped using it and also about the verified badge monthly subscription, many just didn't like it too.
Elon Musk is acting like an authoritarian leader, his actions of terminating his employees will be a ticking time bomb for Twitter's future. He tries to replace employees by relying on Bots, he seems to forget something that there are certain parts that can only be completed by humans and cannot be completed by Bots.
Many Twitter users are starting to get bored with the appearance of the Twitter application after it was acquired by Elon Musk, so they are slowly starting to rarely use the platform which is now known as X. I'm starting to assume there will be new competitors who can bring down X if Elon Musk is still too authoritarian, Moreover, I heard news about Elon Musk's intention to charge fees to users of the platform.
The reason why Elon Musk is acting all this way is because Twitter (X) has yet to have a competitor that could challenge it. If Twitter had, a strong social media competitor, Elon Musk wouldn't have been acting authoritatively like doing whatever he chooses at any given time. Just imagine that every Twitter user had to pay before they could have access to Twitter. That sounds absurd to me.

If this is to be implemented, Elon Musk should consider many people leaving Twitter as the cause of the development

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October 09, 2023, 12:33:32 AM
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Elon Musk is Top-notch in his abilities and moves.
I think there is a target behind every actions and he might come up with a big hints someday.

I know it has been a big challenge to many users.
Mostly he might be scared of defeat so he's taking it so lightly like nothing is wrong but he should come up with good inputs to all of this as it's  not helping.
he can be making mistake but honestly such enigmatic person like elon is definitely hard to predict, he is a billionaire not without any reason.
he definitely has his own reasoning and whether it would succeeds its still a question but I believe that even if his plan with twitter fails he's still got billions on his arsenal to make it up though.
definitely a risk taker i'd say.
but honestly with twitter the way he could make his money back is rather obvious just enforce monetizing and thats it, he's already set.

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October 09, 2023, 04:09:47 AM
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Twitter is the most used social media application worldwide. By buying this platform, Elon Musk did not buy a social media app. Elon Musk bought the data of millions of users. He also bought the ability to manipulate millions of users. This is the equivalent of godlike power. I think it's priceless to have that power. And I think behind closed doors there is the possibility of monetizing that power.
that could be the case. but it seems so far elon just want to purely monetize those hundred millions of users that previously were considered so much waste of potential by the previous twitter management.
but so far, elon's strategy in monetizing twitter has been quite controversial honestly though he has made hundred millions out of it and his idea of selling blue tick and gold tick badge itself just already earn him some huge chunk amount of money.
i wonder what would be elon's next strategy in further monetizing the twitter, it seems quite interesting honestly seeing elon with his unique strategy.

The money he makes from selling bule and yellow ticks won't be much because most of Twitter's revenue comes from advertising so what he needs to do is attract more companies and users. According to some information I have, he wants to turn X into a super application, not just a simple social network like twitter in the past. Furthermore, I agree with what Flipme said, he has a bigger goal for Twitter than just making money. Twitter is America's favorite social network and it is very beneficial for things like political manipulation and that is Elon's real goal. I wouldn't be surprised if Elon enters a future presidential election.

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Well technically he is not CEO. It's Linda Yaccarino now, who is claiming that advertisers are coming back. Which is most likely a lie. But she is paper ceo anyway as musk definiltely wants to control everything. That's why he bought it.
For someone like Elon, if he doesn't plan it, it's almost impossible. Even though their plans are strange, creative and genius people are different from ordinary people. Elon's plan has been fulfilled, namely firing Twitter employees he doesn't like or reorganizing Twitter so that later the team at Twitter can handle/control everything, even remotely. From the start, Elon did not intend to handle Twitter directly, which is why he is not currently serving as CEO of Twitter.

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I see no way that he would like to be out of spotlight. That's all he ever wanted, attention and acceptance. Now there's a crowd that accepts and adores him. And i am thinking that's why he bought it with overvalued price, so he could tap on that without any rules he don't like.
Yes, that's right, I like Elon because he is very democratic, he wants Twitter to be a platform with freedom of opinion. Where other platforms have difficulty doing that.

What is in the spotlight is that he decided to change his name to "x". Just changing the logo/brand design can sometimes fail, now is he changing the logo/design + brand name? The Twitter name has stuck and it's almost impossible for anyone else to claim it. From this we can judge that Elon Musk likes the challenge of wanting to be noticed and in the spotlight by many groups.

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