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March 28, 2023, 12:32:20 PM
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This is his first fight this year, and for sure, if he wins this fight, there should be at least one more fight before the end of the year. Nghitumbwa has 12 fights, with 11 of his wins being through KO, so the numbers are very impressive. The big question is, were the fighters he KO'd quality fighters? Because if the answer is no, then he is still not on the level of Casimero.

Check this record of Nghitumbwa https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814162 he didn't face yet the same caliber as Casimero.

So this will be a tough fighter like Casimero and provably he will be tested here if he's knockout power is really good or maybe Casimero he will be dominated by the champ. Although we don't know if we can see an impressive match up but still its good to watch since its still Casimero will fight against a knockout artist.

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March 28, 2023, 01:12:29 PM
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But this does not mean that Nghitumbawa punches are weak too.  Making 11 of his 13 opponents kiss the canvas means the boxer has a deadly punching power.  So we should not underestimate the guy because his opponent is unknown.  Isn't Manny Pacquiao a not well-known boxer before he fights Ledwaba? 
I understand, but it's really different because if you watch the replay of Nghitumbwa's fought, you will see his footwork is really weird and he almost slipped for few times due to bad footwork Tongue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNVE3_dRKQ

But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

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March 28, 2023, 01:21:02 PM
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But this does not mean that Nghitumbawa punches are weak too.  Making 11 of his 13 opponents kiss the canvas means the boxer has a deadly punching power.  So we should not underestimate the guy because his opponent is unknown.  Isn't Manny Pacquiao a not well-known boxer before he fights Ledwaba? 
I understand, but it's really different because if you watch the replay of Nghitumbwa's fought, you will see his footwork is really weird and he almost slipped for few times due to bad footwork Tongue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNVE3_dRKQ

But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

The stats alone are not the right basis for predicting the winner of this fight. Honestly, it's my first time hearing the name Nghitumbwa, but Casimero has been popular even before he moved up. However, it's okay if some think that Nghitumbwa might beat Casimero, as that's their personal opinion. Besides, we never know the outcome of a future fight.

Although this may not be a tough challenge, Casimero is still considering it a big fight. If he loses against Nghitumbwa, there will be no reason for him to continue fighting as his dreams will be too far to achieve.

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March 28, 2023, 01:42:30 PM
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But this does not mean that Nghitumbawa punches are weak too.  Making 11 of his 13 opponents kiss the canvas means the boxer has a deadly punching power.  So we should not underestimate the guy because his opponent is unknown.  Isn't Manny Pacquiao a not well-known boxer before he fights Ledwaba? 
I understand, but it's really different because if you watch the replay of Nghitumbwa's fought, you will see his footwork is really weird and he almost slipped for few times due to bad footwork Tongue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mNVE3_dRKQ

But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

The stats alone are not the right basis for predicting the winner of this fight. Honestly, it's my first time hearing the name Nghitumbwa, but Casimero has been popular even before he moved up. However, it's okay if some think that Nghitumbwa might beat Casimero, as that's their personal opinion. Besides, we never know the outcome of a future fight.

Although this may not be a tough challenge, Casimero is still considering it a big fight. If he loses against Nghitumbwa, there will be no reason for him to continue fighting as his dreams will be too far to achieve.

Casimero needs to remain disciplined, and eventually he will get a big fight, maybe even challenging the champion, hopefully Inoue. Inoue's fight against Fulton was postponed due to his injury, but I'm optimistic that it will happen this year.

Casimero is no stranger to fighting KO artists. In fact, he likes it because it allows him to show his counter-punching ability that can result in a KO of his opponent. If odds are already available, I would go for Casimero winning via KO, maybe between rounds 1-3.
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March 28, 2023, 02:00:51 PM
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But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

It's really a good fight for Casimero because he won't be dealing with someone who is not willing to go clash in the middle of the ring against him. This guy might not be famous but I think, he will gonna go dance with Casimero in the middle of the ring without running and I think this fight might not go to the judges' decision because we all know that Casimero has been frustrated with his last fight and wanted to regain back his honor and popularity. He will finish this guy as soon as possible but at the same time, he should be more careful because he can also get knockout as well by Nghitumbwa.

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March 29, 2023, 01:44:38 AM
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But it's okay if you think Nghitumbwa might able to beat Casimero, the odds is really high if you bet Nghitumbwa to win in this fight. This reminds me the fight between Rolando Romero vs Gervonta Davis, Romero was a KO artist but he got KO'ed by Davis.

It's really a good fight for Casimero because he won't be dealing with someone who is not willing to go clash in the middle of the ring against him. This guy might not be famous but I think, he will gonna go dance with Casimero in the middle of the ring without running and I think this fight might not go to the judges' decision because we all know that Casimero has been frustrated with his last fight and wanted to regain back his honor and popularity. He will finish this guy as soon as possible but at the same time, he should be more careful because he can also get knockout as well by Nghitumbwa.

Definitely, if he plans to engage in a dance with Casimero, he will need to ensure that he has a solid chin and body. Casimero is skilled in identifying the weaknesses of his opponents, so any flaws will likely be exploited. It's worth noting that he hasn't won an impressive victory in recent times, so perhaps this bout will end without any controversy and gradually elevate Casimero's standing in this division.

This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

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March 29, 2023, 02:52:10 AM
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This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.

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March 29, 2023, 02:53:49 AM
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This is his first fight this year, and for sure, if he wins this fight, there should be at least one more fight before the end of the year. Nghitumbwa has 12 fights, with 11 of his wins being through KO, so the numbers are very impressive. The big question is, were the fighters he KO'd quality fighters? Because if the answer is no, then he is still not on the level of Casimero.

Check this record of Nghitumbwa https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814162 he didn't face yet the same caliber as Casimero.

So this will be a tough fighter like Casimero and provably he will be tested here if he's knockout power is really good or maybe Casimero he will be dominated by the champ. Although we don't know if we can see an impressive match up but still its good to watch since its still Casimero will fight against a knockout artist.
actually both of them aren't familiar with each others capacity , though Casimero had faced multiple opponent from other countries yet?  Nghitumbwa is a knock out puncher and has a good record as well.

but for me personally ? this is not enough to bring down the champ from Philippines , this will be a big step for Him if he can knock Casimero Down (wishful thinking)

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This is his first fight this year, and for sure, if he wins this fight, there should be at least one more fight before the end of the year. Nghitumbwa has 12 fights, with 11 of his wins being through KO, so the numbers are very impressive. The big question is, were the fighters he KO'd quality fighters? Because if the answer is no, then he is still not on the level of Casimero.

Check this record of Nghitumbwa https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814162 he didn't face yet the same caliber as Casimero.

So this will be a tough fighter like Casimero and provably he will be tested here if he's knockout power is really good or maybe Casimero he will be dominated by the champ. Although we don't know if we can see an impressive match up but still its good to watch since its still Casimero will fight against a knockout artist.
actually both of them aren't familiar with each others capacity , though Casimero had faced multiple opponent from other countries yet?  Nghitumbwa is a knock out puncher and has a good record as well.

but for me personally ? this is not enough to bring down the champ from Philippines , this will be a big step for Him if he can knock Casimero Down (wishful thinking)
I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

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March 29, 2023, 05:23:18 AM
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This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.

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March 29, 2023, 05:30:07 AM
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This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.
This situation shouldn't be a significant threat to Casimero as he would not have to start from scratch if he hadn't lost his belt. He is now attempting to reclaim the championship title in a different division and will need to work his way up from the bottom again.

However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.

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March 29, 2023, 08:33:50 AM
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However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.

Most of us here are likely in favor of Casimero winning the fight and getting a chance to face Inoue. It doesn't seem to be generating much hype in the boxing community, but we'll see if Casimero's power can be effective against a KO puncher like Nghitumbwa.

Has anyone seen the available betting odds for this fight yet?

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I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.

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I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.

Even if Casimero has a better records than Nghitumbwa, he should still needs a good preparation, and as much as possible, he shouldn't be too confident because we'll never know what his opponent have prepared upon facing him. It's still better not to underestimate his opponent. However, I believe that Casimero will grab and embrace this opportunity to create a promising record again. He only needs to know his opponent's weaknesses so he'll know the right defense to defeat it.
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I'm not familiar with Nghitumbwa but based on his record his wins are through knockout and that's impressive. So even Casimero is already a champion and an experienced boxer, he can't be too complacent with his opponent because this can be a surprising boxer he will ever fight.

But i'm confident that Casimero won't let himself be defeated by an unknown boxer because if it does, as you've said, it's a big step for Nghitumbwa's career.

I saw only one fight of Nghitumbwa he is a perfect fighter for Casimero, always moving forward but with a weak defense, I doubt if Nghitumbwa can last the fight Casimero will look for a knockout he better has a strong punch because if not Casimero will go forward to knock him out, this is what I like about Casimero, one he tasted his opponents punches and he can take it he'll look for the sweet spot to land his vicious punches.
Of course, upset is possible here, but Casimero is always a hungry fighter because his eyes are focused on Inoue, to meet him in the ring.

Even if Casimero has a better records than Nghitumbwa, he should still needs a good preparation, and as much as possible, he shouldn't be too confident because we'll never know what his opponent have prepared upon facing him. It's still better not to underestimate his opponent. However, I believe that Casimero will grab and embrace this opportunity to create a promising record again. He only needs to know his opponent's weaknesses so he'll know the right defense to defeat it.

Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.

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March 29, 2023, 08:55:49 PM
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However, I believe that if he can secure a victory in this fight, it could lead to significant opportunities for him in the future. While I do not underestimate his opponent, he is a relatively unknown boxer.

Most of us here are likely in favor of Casimero winning the fight and getting a chance to face Inoue. It doesn't seem to be generating much hype in the boxing community, but we'll see if Casimero's power can be effective against a KO puncher like Nghitumbwa.

Casimero has a wide advantage experience-wise so that will be the reason why he will be the huge favorite going into this fight plus he will be fighting in the Philippines so that alone is a huge hurdle for Nghitumbwa. Though on paper, the African fighter is a KO artist but those boxers he KOed were unknown while Casimero has fought names that were talked about in the boxing community like Rigo and Tete.

Has anyone seen the available betting odds for this fight yet?

Not yet available but definitely this will be listed a day or two before fight night.
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Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

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March 29, 2023, 10:13:47 PM
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Yes, but we all know that Casimero loves training, you can see it in his blog. So for sure he wouldn't take this fighter very lightly because if he lose this fight, it will be over for his dream to become a world champion in 122 lbs.

And with a new manager which is a Japanese, he might want to impressed them with a huge win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero has the experience as well, he knows how hard it is to win in the enemy's soil, so he will prevent that from happening to him. If he wins, they the doors will open up for him to even fight Inoue because of his Japanese promoters.
This is an easy Casimero fight. Yes, he loves to train and he's not that careless anymore. He may have been like sort of boastful but that's just for the audience behind the camera, he knows what he's doing. It may look like that he's careless and belittling his opponents on the camera but that's not all about it. That's just to add value for the emotions of his fans for them to watch more of his fights but he's a titled champion, and not just one title so he knows really exactly what he's doing and he's got the upperhand winning against his opponent for this match since he's got more experience.

He will definitely trained hard and maybe look for a knockout, he needs to win impressively and send a message to the rest of the super bantamweight fighters. This is an opportunity for him to show that he still got it, can knock out his opponents. And yes, usually if you have new manager you want to show them that they are correct in picking you up. And I believed that he is still chasing that big money fight against Inoue and so he pick a Japanese manager because it's going to be an advantage for him to negotiate as both are Japanese. So good move for him to get out of MP or whoever his last manager is.

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This is Casimero's first fight this year, so he will need to start strong if he hopes to secure an opportunity to fight against a top challenger or champion in this division.

It's true that Casimero tends to start his fights strongly, and his only loss came from a disqualification. Additionally, being in a division where reaching the required weight is not a struggle for him will undoubtedly work in his favor.

However, his upcoming opponent is also a KO artist, making for a great fight that promises some intense action. Given that both fighters have a reputation for quick finishes, it's possible that we might see a bloody and action-packed match. If the fight goes the full 12 rounds, Casimero may be at risk of losing, as he typically wins his fights with his signature counter-punch KO in the earlier rounds.
We will see. Experience in my opinion is a big plus for every boxer especially when you already reached the top of the mountain where it gets most intense.
All Casimero should do is think of this like a championship fight and he will definitely have the upper hand.

I agree that experience is a big advantage to a boxer.  Since having an experience, he is able to adjust and go think while in the ring.  Most unexperienced boxer failed to adapt during the fight making them a bit stiff and confused when things does not go as expected. One example is the fight of Rey Boom Boom Bautista against Daniel Ponce De Leon.  Bautista being unexperienced to be in a dire situation made him confused when he got caught by De Leon.  An experienced boxer will stay down until he recovered a bit but instead, Boom Boom Bautista tried to stand ASAP and did not use the ring to move around to shrug off the dizziness, instead, he just went straight to confront the advantageous opponent.

Here is the video of the said fight: https://youtu.be/WBqXIm0KhP4?t=95

Fillipus Nghitumbwa got his first loss from his first pro fight so I guess he was just shocked at that moment, but he knocked out that boxer when they met again in the boxing ring.
I don't really know much about the guy, but looking at his records, most of his fights are in their country South Africa, unlike Casimero who had experience with different fighters in different places.

That may be the case and I think Nghitumbwa is somehow comfortable in fighting now, with his record, we cannot just underestimate the guy even though it is his first time fighting outside Africa.

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The stats alone are not the right basis for predicting the winner of this fight. Honestly, it's my first time hearing the name Nghitumbwa

and why are you and most people hearing his name only now? I, for example, am an amateur in this Boxing world, but there are many fighters I know, because when I go to a Boxing news site there are news about hundreds of fighters and why are these fighters in the news? they are in the news because they are competing at the highest level, so all the attention is on them and for them to compete at the highest level and because they are extremely skilled fighters, they are not competing at the highest level because they were lucky, they are not counting on luck, they have talent, a lot of training and strategies, physical strength and they had to fight with the best fighters and thanks to that they are fighting at the highest level

By that I mean that data and statistics are extremely important things in analyzing a fight and in order to determine the likely winner of a fight. in this case, for example, we have a fighter who doesn't fight at the highest level, so how can we consider him strong? he can be strong in the place where he fights but the point is that where he fights is not in a place where there are high level fighters, therefore he is not at the level of high level fighters, so when he faces a high level fighter level and of course he will have many difficulties, the first difficulty he will suffer will be having to deal with many fans of the opponent and the press and many cameras, the second will be the rhythm of a high level professional fighter... in my opinion opinion the winner of this fight is clear

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