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April 01, 2023, 05:24:44 PM
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And now the task of Casimero is to get an impressive win against Nghitumbwa so that he can call out the Inoue's camp again to ask for a fight. If happens that Inoue vs Fulton happen and Inoue win then provably they will not the fight against Casimero will happen because they would really think that they cannot get something with him and go chase at more belt to other opponent.

Casimero will continue to call out Inoue once he gets an impressive win against Nghitumbwa because it is a fight to make and is considered a legacy fight for Casimero, so far Casimero has never tested to be in trouble in the ring and an Inoue fight will test both fighters and this is going to be a top money maker for Casimero.
He's been fighting low-level fighters for a long time, he is not only after the title but a legacy fight with huge money attached to it.

Perhaps if he scored a knockout win then maybe he will call out Inoue. But there are also other fighters that he can call though, if he wanted to get the respect and who knows maybe the other 2 belt champion in this division.

Casimero will have to carved out again his legacy at 122 lbs, he used to be one of the biggest in 118 lbs, but as I have said, the weight issues was to much for him and now going back to become a world champion. But he needs to be slow but deliberate and this is just another challenge that he needs to win big.

Yes, a close fight result of this bout won't get anyone in the higher ups get interested even if he will call them one by one. Furthermore, this is Casimero's 2nd fight so there's no need to be hasty to call out for the big boys, I reckon that he should call the interim champions first because he got more chances to fight the champions in this division if he will be the new interim champions.

One month and 2 days left we can see casimero back in the ring fighting against ngitumbwa a and we all know that this is one of the big fights by casimero if he win this fight then he will be known back, he will be recognize and bring back his reputations from the crowd and I know he can win this match he is so aggressive now he is aiming high to claim what he want to claim in the past. And became a champion soon as possible.

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April 01, 2023, 08:09:15 PM
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One month and 2 days left we can see casimero back in the ring fighting against ngitumbwa a and we all know that this is one of the big fights by casimero if he win this fight then he will be known back, he will be recognize and bring back his reputations from the crowd and I know he can win this match he is so aggressive now he is aiming high to claim what he want to claim in the past. And became a champion soon as possible.

That should be the goal, Casimero making an impressive win that even it's a non-title fight, he is really dominant and overpowering his opponent.

Look at what happened to his fight against Akaho. That fight wasn't even special and hype before the actual day of the match. But with how Casimero performed on that fight, making Akaho a joke, he is, no doubt got the attentio of the boxing community.

If Casimero will turned this upcoming fight of him into something spectacular and 100% shows being domimant at most part of the match, I'm sure he will again be recognize and might be consider for a good deal on his next match.


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April 01, 2023, 08:23:54 PM
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One month and 2 days left we can see casimero back in the ring fighting against ngitumbwa a and we all know that this is one of the big fights by casimero if he win this fight then he will be known back, he will be recognize and bring back his reputations from the crowd and I know he can win this match he is so aggressive now he is aiming high to claim what he want to claim in the past. And became a champion soon as possible.

That should be the goal, Casimero making an impressive win that even it's a non-title fight, he is really dominant and overpowering his opponent.

Yes, even if this is a non tittle fight, Casimero should not only impressed his fans, but everyone in the division, to at least show that he is someone to be another fighter that shouldn't be overlook as there are a lot of great boxers in this division.

Look at what happened to his fight against Akaho. That fight wasn't even special and hype before the actual day of the match. But with how Casimero performed on that fight, making Akaho a joke, he is, no doubt got the attentio of the boxing community.

If Casimero will turned this upcoming fight of him into something spectacular and 100% shows being domimant at most part of the match, I'm sure he will again be recognize and might be consider for a good deal on his next match.

He started slow in that fight, but when he got his rhythm, Akaho knows that he can't take fight and just took a dive. If he just try to be as competitive as other boxers that Casimero has fought, he could have made it a fight. But for sure, he will get KO by Casimero and in his first fight at 122 lbs could be impressive. But this is another opportunity for John Riel again and dominate his opponent and go for a KO win against Nghitumbwa.
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April 01, 2023, 09:00:18 PM
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hopefully, the long wait ends this year.

Impossible. Regardless if Inoue will win or lose against Fulton, Casimero doesn't have enough eligibility to be a worthy opponent for Inoue. Remember that Casimero is just ranked 8th and even though he will win here against Nghitumbwa, I doubt he will be improved his ranking to the Top 3 or even the Top 5.

There are lots of strong boxers in the top ranking of the WBO Super Bantamweight and Casimero didn't even have a chance yet to face one of those.

If we are expecting a Casimero vs Inoue clash this year, the chances are slim. Maybe next year, that will be possible, if Casimero will be able to secure a fight at least 2 times a year, especially at the top ranks.

For the record, Casimero was a champion in three weight category
He has held world championships in three weight classes; including the IBF junior-flyweight title from 2012 to 2013; the IBF flyweight title in 2016; and the WBO bantamweight title from 2019 to 2022.

He did not lose his last title in the ring and he won it against the highly regarded Zolani Tete via 4th-round stoppage, Tete was then considered the boxer who can match Inoue's power but Casimero easily annihilate him, and his last loss was 8 years ago against Sultan via UD.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916

He has fought and beaten and knocked out champions like Charlie Edwards, Rigondeaux, and Tete
Casimero has bragging rights to ask Inoue to fight him because he is considered a top-caliber fighter.

Pacquiao was not in the top 5 when he fought Ledwaba, great fighters could go down in rank but that does not mean that they are low-level fighters.

Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.
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April 01, 2023, 09:36:42 PM
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hopefully, the long wait ends this year.

Impossible. Regardless if Inoue will win or lose against Fulton, Casimero doesn't have enough eligibility to be a worthy opponent for Inoue. Remember that Casimero is just ranked 8th and even though he will win here against Nghitumbwa, I doubt he will be improved his ranking to the Top 3 or even the Top 5.

There are lots of strong boxers in the top ranking of the WBO Super Bantamweight and Casimero didn't even have a chance yet to face one of those.

If we are expecting a Casimero vs Inoue clash this year, the chances are slim. Maybe next year, that will be possible, if Casimero will be able to secure a fight at least 2 times a year, especially at the top ranks.

For the record, Casimero was a champion in three weight category
He has held world championships in three weight classes; including the IBF junior-flyweight title from 2012 to 2013; the IBF flyweight title in 2016; and the WBO bantamweight title from 2019 to 2022.

He did not lose his last title in the ring and he won it against the highly regarded Zolani Tete via 4th-round stoppage, Tete was then considered the boxer who can match Inoue's power but Casimero easily annihilate him, and his last loss was 8 years ago against Sultan via UD.

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/421916

He has fought and beaten and knocked out champions like Charlie Edwards, Rigondeaux, and Tete
Casimero has bragging rights to ask Inoue to fight him because he is considered a top-caliber fighter.

Pacquiao was not in the top 5 when he fought Ledwaba, great fighters could go down in rank but that does not mean that they are low-level fighters.

Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.

That's not how boxing fans looked at it, when a boxer entered a ring he carries his records and all the titles he
won and he is introduced with all the titles he won, just wait for Casimero to enter the ring and hear the announcement, again for the record he never lost the title he lost it by default, and it's only been three years since he beat Tete, only when a boxer gets beaten that's where he loses his prestige nor from inactivity and not from fighting unknown fighter and based on his last fight against Akaho he is still very dangerous, Akaho knows it so he prefers to quit than suffers a lot of punishment.

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April 01, 2023, 09:41:01 PM
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Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

True that since Casimero had been stripped of his title and eventually move  up in weight class, he is starting from a scratch.  Ther record he is carrying is just the glory of the past and has no bearing to his ranking in his current category.   the only thing Casimero got from his record is the experiences. 

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

I think, it is his promoter/manager task to give him a good shot on the ranking or title fight.  It is also possible that these ranked fighter is somehow ducking Casimero, unless the sanctioning body scheduled the fight, they will not think of fighting Casimero because they have more to lose than to gain from him, so yeah I second your idea.

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.

True that, calculating the fight schedule and the months need to recuperate, it is almost impossible for Casimero to fight Fulton or Inoue this year.
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April 01, 2023, 09:54:13 PM
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Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

True that since Casimero had been stripped of his title and eventually move  up in weight class, he is starting from a scratch.  Ther record he is carrying is just the glory of the past and has no bearing to his ranking in his current category.   the only thing Casimero got from his record is the experiences.  

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

I think, it is his promoter/manager task to give him a good shot on the ranking or title fight.  It is also possible that these ranked fighter is somehow ducking Casimero, unless the sanctioning body scheduled the fight, they will not think of fighting Casimero because they have more to lose than to gain from him, so yeah I second your idea.

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.

True that, calculating the fight schedule and the months need to recuperate, it is almost impossible for Casimero to fight Fulton or Inoue this year.

As he is starting from scratch, he should not fail to win on this upcoming match.
Because if he will lose on this one, I don't know what career he needs to build with.
This is maybe why they arranged the fight in his home country, maybe to motivate him to win on this fight once and for all.
There's no way Inoue will face him this year, Casimero has a lot to prove before he will face Inoue on the same division.
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Mate, that record doesn't have any bearing since Casimero is now starting from a scratch. If that record is being considered then why he needs to face a non-popular and unranked boxer on his debut fight at 122?

True that since Casimero had been stripped of his title and eventually move  up in weight class, he is starting from a scratch.  Ther record he is carrying is just the glory of the past and has no bearing to his ranking in his current category.   the only thing Casimero got from his record is the experiences.  

And after even winning on that, top ranked boxers didn't have the interest to fight him since what else these top ranked boxers can gained against a low ranked boxers?

I think, it is his promoter/manager task to give him a good shot on the ranking or title fight.  It is also possible that these ranked fighter is somehow ducking Casimero, unless the sanctioning body scheduled the fight, they will not think of fighting Casimero because they have more to lose than to gain from him, so yeah I second your idea.

Let's accept the fact that there is no way Casimero will have the chance to face Inoue this year.

True that, calculating the fight schedule and the months need to recuperate, it is almost impossible for Casimero to fight Fulton or Inoue this year.

As he is starting from scratch, he should not fail to win on this upcoming match.
Because if he will lose on this one, I don't know what career he needs to build with.
This is maybe why they arranged the fight in his home country, maybe to motivate him to win on this fight once and for all.
There's no way Inoue will face him this year, Casimero has a lot to prove before he will face Inoue on the same division.

Might be hard though to comeback if he losses this one. He is already 34 years old and maybe just about to hit his peak or maybe he is on his prime right now. But if he losses this one, then it might be over for him as it might take some time to bounce back and maybe can't get a decent fight that will boost his name again. So for me still a must win for John Riel and it will be a plus if he can win impressively as most of the posters said. Because a big emphatic win will make his name one of the hottest in this stack 122 lbs. Maybe after this fight, chase some good names like Luis Nery or even Ra'eese Aleem. Those names are rank by WBO as 2 and 3 and Casimero at 5. So there could be opportunities if he will win here as a lost will be costly in his career at this point.

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April 01, 2023, 10:26:37 PM
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As he is starting from scratch, he should not fail to win on this upcoming match.
Because if he will lose on this one, I don't know what career he needs to build with.
This is maybe why they arranged the fight in his home country, maybe to motivate him to win on this fight once and for all.
There's no way Inoue will face him this year, Casimero has a lot to prove before he will face Inoue on the same division.

I agree, he needs to do his best in every match he got. At this stage he needs to prove himself and make himself popular and in-demand for the fans to take the interest of other ranked boxer.  Casimero needs to make himself worth fighting even though he do not have any belt and getting popular is one of the way to make these boxers on upper rank and even the sanctioning bodies to take notice of him and give him a chance to rank up or even a title fight in the future.

Might be hard though to comeback if he losses this one. He is already 34 years old and maybe just about to hit his peak or maybe he is on his prime right now. But if he losses this one, then it might be over for him as it might take some time to bounce back and maybe can't get a decent fight that will boost his name again. So for me still a must win for John Riel and it will be a plus if he can win impressively as most of the posters said. Because a big emphatic win will make his name one of the hottest in this stack 122 lbs. Maybe after this fight, chase some good names like Luis Nery or even Ra'eese Aleem. Those names are rank by WBO as 2 and 3 and Casimero at 5. So there could be opportunities if he will win here as a lost will be costly in his career at this point.

True, if Casimero failed to finish his opponent or won the fight, the hype he is building in the previous months in his current weight division will poof.  And more probably many will not take him seriously and will ignore his camp's fight request because it isn't beneficial for their boxer's career climbing.
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April 01, 2023, 11:57:03 PM
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John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

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April 02, 2023, 02:09:28 AM
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John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.
Well, let's just accept that it can't happen anytime soon. Casimero needs to prove something first and build his name again to face a popular boxer in the future.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.
That's right and I think he has a chance to win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero is an experienced boxer already and it's his advantage. While his opponent just had a few fights though we can't deny he is also good and a knock out puncher so it won't be easy for Casimero.

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April 02, 2023, 03:20:16 AM
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John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.
It is unfortunate that Casimero has to start all over again but this is his fault due to his inability to fight at the specified date he was given, still as we know those which are talented are given a lot of opportunities to mend their ways, and there is little doubt in my mind that Casimero is a very talented boxer, he just needs to go back to his roots and train as hard as he can, and if he does I would give him very high chances of winning his upcoming fight.
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April 02, 2023, 03:38:45 AM
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Casemiro is also very cocky even on twitter, they must have discussed to teach the guy a lesson. He did trashed Donaire and Inoue since and from then on he never get the chance to get a good fight.

He is a tough boxer though. He faced tougher ones than him but made them weaker. He could have gotten more challengers when he has the belt.

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April 02, 2023, 08:02:18 PM
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John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

It's quite too much to ask for now considering that John Riel Casimero is still working his way towards the ladder and be known in this division by defeating boxers along the line, let's just be patient and believe that certain time will come where we can both of them dancing in one ring. Well, let's say that Casimero managed to drop a huge statement against Nghitumbwa, nobody in the higher-ups will get interested because his foe is a nameless boxer. Much better for Casimero to aim for the interim title holder next to get himself nearer towards the champions.

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April 02, 2023, 08:21:46 PM
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John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

Yeah, I don't expect them to fight early this year, Inoue is injured and have to postponed his fight till July. While Casimero will have his fight this May. So the timing might not be there for this 2. Unless the Japanese promoter of Casimero has some inside connection to the camp of Inoue to really push them for like a December fight.

The fans has been waiting for them to face in the ring since Casimero has become a champion when they were both campaigning at 118 lbs. But again, it might take long since they move up and there are a lot of boxers in this division too hoping to face the Monster.

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April 02, 2023, 09:05:09 PM
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John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

Yeah, I don't expect them to fight early this year, Inoue is injured and have to postponed his fight till July. While Casimero will have his fight this May. So the timing might not be there for this 2. Unless the Japanese promoter of Casimero has some inside connection to the camp of Inoue to really push them for like a December fight.

The fans has been waiting for them to face in the ring since Casimero has become a champion when they were both campaigning at 118 lbs. But again, it might take long since they move up and there are a lot of boxers in this division too hoping to face the Monster.

First and foremost, Casimero should emerge as a winner on his upcoming fight.
Because if he loses again, then the possible match with Inoue just fly out of the table.
Inoue is on a different level now as a boxer. Whereas, Casimero is like starting again his campaign to be a champion.
If he won't discipline himself, even just to achieve the right weight requirements, he won't go nowhere in this sports.
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April 02, 2023, 09:07:20 PM
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Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.
That's right and I think he has a chance to win against Nghitumbwa. Casimero is an experienced boxer already and it's his advantage. While his opponent just had a few fights though we can't deny he is also good and a knock out puncher so it won't be easy for Casimero.
The ball is on Casimero he needs to win this fight and he needs to win impressively he is fighting in front of local fans against an unknown fighter so what could possibly go wrong if he did not train well or miscalculated his opponent.

Casimero will fight a hungry fighter who wants recognization this is the first time he is fighting outside of his turf and if he happens to upset Casimero, promoters, and boxing organizations will have an eye for him so Casimero should be aware of this it may look an easy fight but still a risky fight.

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April 02, 2023, 09:37:51 PM
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Casemiro is also very cocky even on twitter, they must have discussed to teach the guy a lesson. He did trashed Donaire and Inoue since and from then on he never get the chance to get a good fight.

He is a tough boxer though. He faced tougher ones than him but made them weaker. He could have gotten more challengers when he has the belt.
Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

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April 02, 2023, 09:42:51 PM
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John Riel Casimero meeting Naoya Inoue this year is not that easy providing the supposed timeline that both boxers needs to follow.

Hopefully, Casimero will be able to have a shot on the other title belts not hold by Fulton.  I don't think it is important to have a match with Inoue at the moment because Inoue is still untitled.  Instead of making plan to face the monster, Casimero should make a detour and aim for the ranked boxer and defeat them to be worth of a title shot against WBA/IBF champ Murodjon Akhmadaliev or have a chance to compete for The Ring  since it is vacant.

Let's hope instead that Casimero will be able to send a strong statement at the super bantamweight thru an impressive winning in his upcoming fight. As I said before, in order for Casimero to be included in the title contender discussion, the priority is to being recognized.

I highly agree.  Casimero must exceed his previous performance in every match, he must capture the attention of all boxing audiences.
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Casemiro is also very cocky even on twitter, they must have discussed to teach the guy a lesson. He did trashed Donaire and Inoue since and from then on he never get the chance to get a good fight.

He is a tough boxer though. He faced tougher ones than him but made them weaker. He could have gotten more challengers when he has the belt.

That's already a given mate, he always do the trash talking because he can back it up by knocking out his opponents. It's different when you trash talk and you are the one getting knockout. Although Donaire cancelled their fight because of Casimero's trash talking and he said that it's disrespectful that's why he is not going to give Casimero his chance. However, him and Donaire has patch thing's up. So everything is good between this two Pinoys.

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The two boxers have mended fences after slugging it out in a series of nasty trash talk online.

Donaire and Casimero appeared in an online interview with Powcast Sports wherein the latter apologized on behalf of his team and fans who joined into the verbal slugfest that led to the cancellation of their supposed fight.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/09/21/21/boxing-casimero-apologizes-to-donaire

And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.

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