[Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)

[Sanitough]

We might hear more about it after the fight against Nghitumbwa, else, if there's none to come out meaning to say that he might just use that route to promote his fight and to bring audience attentions.

All he needs to do for now is to win this fight via TKO or KO if he could because he hasn't been getting real good fights since he fought Guillermo Rigondeaux and he is delayed too much because of some disqualifications before the fight. Thankfully he got the win in his last fight after a review by the Korea Boxing Member Commission if not, then his career is not looking good at the moment. He needs this kind of exposure and does his thing again to catch the fans' attention and somehow will get his chance to be Inoue's next opponent.

If Casimero's opponent is prepared to withstand his power punches, we may see a KO victory. However, we should not underestimate his opponent, despite being relatively unknown. He has a high KO percentage, which is sure to present a tough challenge for Casimero. So if Casimero wins this fight, it will significantly boost his career as his ranking will improve. This would open up the possibility of a championship fight for him in the near future.

Even if we can say for now that Casimero has all the advantage still he's camp shouldn't take this one as easy fight for them. Remember that there's something like this happen before and many thought that Pacquaio will dominate Ugas but it didn't happen, but rather Ugas totally dominate Pacquaio at that fight so  Casimero need to be more prepared for this to avoid the same like scenario since Nghitumbwa is also dangerous opponent to fight on.

That's a valid point, as Ugas has proven himself to be a worthy challenger and has already fought popular fighters in the past. However, I believe that Casimero should not be complacent and should maintain the same rigorous training or even intensify it to ensure he stays in shape and potentially secures an impressive KO win.

And regarding his popularity, it still exists but it's different when a boxer is no longer a champion.

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[Silberman]

Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it.

If a boxer can actually follow through and backup their trash talking then technically it is not longer trash talking and they are just stating the truth, Ali was probably not only one of the greatest boxers we have ever seen but he was also a great trash talker, so I am not against boxers behaving this way, however if they engage in thrash talking and they lose and then they keep doing the same, then I can admit that I will not take them seriously anymore.

[btc_angela]

Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it.

If a boxer can actually follow through and backup their trash talking then technically it is not longer trash talking and they are just stating the truth, Ali was probably not only one of the greatest boxers we have ever seen but he was also a great trash talker, so I am not against boxers behaving this way, however if they engage in thrash talking and they lose and then they keep doing the same, then I can admit that I will not take them seriously anymore.

But still though, it's trash talking and that's what sell the fights. Boxers like Floyd or Conor for instance, once they open their mouth in a press conference, it's usually some bad mouthing that you can hear and fans love that.

The thing with Casimero though is that we are not used to see such trash talking from a Filipino and maybe this what made him specially for us. Yeah, he can back it up, but if he wants to become a champion again, he need to win and knock Nghitumbwa out and again, send the message that he is going after whoever the champion is.

[AmoreJaz]

Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it.

If a boxer can actually follow through and backup their trash talking then technically it is not longer trash talking and they are just stating the truth, Ali was probably not only one of the greatest boxers we have ever seen but he was also a great trash talker, so I am not against boxers behaving this way, however if they engage in thrash talking and they lose and then they keep doing the same, then I can admit that I will not take them seriously anymore.

you will lose your respect to the boxer with that kind of attitude. as they can't back-up what they are claiming to be. so if i am casimero, right now, there's no need to trash talk as he has a lot to prove because he is being behind from his contemporary boxers like inoue. though some are creating noise for the reason that they want to sell the fight. however, just take for example, pacquiao, did he trash talk his opponents? i don't remember any. if he stated something before, that's what he really felt but not because his over-exaggerating things.

[Pamadar]

Having that attitude affects the performance of Casimero and his reputation, his team should really teach him to focus on his trainings instead of making trash talks, we actually don’t know if this is part of their promotional strategy or this is the real Casimero. Anyway, having this march next month can be a good opportunity for him again to get back on track, I can see a good match up here, Casimero have more chance here to win if be focuses more on his strategy.

In fairness though, Casimero can back up his trash talk. Regardless if it's part of the marketing or promotional strategy, he's not just pure trash-talking but giving proof in the actual boxing match. Might be arrogant to others and not good to see but he's really like that since then.

As long as it's not "below the belt", I think there's no problem with it.

If a boxer can actually follow through and backup their trash talking then technically it is not longer trash talking and they are just stating the truth, Ali was probably not only one of the greatest boxers we have ever seen but he was also a great trash talker, so I am not against boxers behaving this way, however if they engage in thrash talking and they lose and then they keep doing the same, then I can admit that I will not take them seriously anymore.

For sure, if you act more than you speak then it's reality and that's how fans wanted to see this fight, aiming to see more action than words it's okay to throw some trash words just to make sure you can support it with your actions.

Failure to do it will push fans to leave you and start ruining your career, better to keep enhancing
and making sure that you'll be able to delight your fans not just by words but with the entertainment
that they'll going to have when watching you fighting.

[Botnake]

The thing with Casimero though is that we are not used to see such trash talking from a Filipino and maybe this what made him specially for us. Yeah, he can back it up, but if he wants to become a champion again, he need to win and knock Nghitumbwa out and again, send the message that he is going after whoever the champion is.

That's his style, and it's okay to see a boxer with that kind of trash-talking style. As you mentioned, he can back up his statements, which is one of the reasons why he is an exciting fighter to watch. Winning this fight shouldn't be difficult for Casimero, as his opponent is ranked low and not a well-known fighter. So, we can expect him to win. I'm more concerned about his future fights, especially his championship fight.

[Yamifoud]

The thing with Casimero though is that we are not used to see such trash talking from a Filipino and maybe this what made him specially for us. Yeah, he can back it up, but if he wants to become a champion again, he need to win and knock Nghitumbwa out and again, send the message that he is going after whoever the champion is.

That's his style, and it's okay to see a boxer with that kind of trash-talking style. As you mentioned, he can back up his statements, which is one of the reasons why he is an exciting fighter to watch. Winning this fight shouldn't be difficult for Casimero, as his opponent is ranked low and not a well-known fighter. So, we can expect him to win. I'm more concerned about his future fights, especially his championship fight.

In boxing, it's important to have your own style. If people take notice of you, it means your style is effective. It's a business, you need people to know you so they will be aware of your fights and potentially be interested in watching, whether it's to see you win or lose. At the very least, you will earn money from them.

[inthelongrun]

When I first heard this, I was laughing because this seems like an inexperienced fighter with a good record in order to hype the fight. But at the same time, it is fine because I do not want to see Casimero becoming inactive if he is really serious about becoming a world champion again. And then I checked the 4 sanctioning bodies of boxing, the WBO is actually ranking Filipus Nghitumbwa as #10 which means this is an opportunity for Casimero to move up in rankings especially in the WBO if he is able to dispose of this Namibian in an impressive fashion.

So far Casimero is ranked WBO #5, WBC #8, and IBF #14. Nghitumbwa is WBO #10 and WBC #25. If all goes well, Casimero should be able to get his title shot next year for a chance to become a 4 division champion.

By the way, guys, WBA and IBF champion Murdojon Akhmadaliev will defend his belts this weekend on DAZN against Marlon Tapales. Casimero might face the winner of this fight or the Inoue-Fulton winner by next year.
 

[Hypnosis00]

By the way, guys, WBA and IBF champion Murdojon Akhmadaliev will defend his belts this weekend on DAZN against Marlon Tapales. Casimero might face the winner of this fight or the Inoue-Fulton winner by next year.
 

It would be better if Casimero faces the winner of that fight. If he wins, he can then face the winner of the Inoue vs. Fulton fight. That way, Casimero's wish to face Inoue for a unification belt will be granted. I really hope this happens as Casimero has missed out on many opportunities in his career and deserves a big fight.

[aioc]

By the way, guys, WBA and IBF champion Murdojon Akhmadaliev will defend his belts this weekend on DAZN against Marlon Tapales. Casimero might face the winner of this fight or the Inoue-Fulton winner by next year.
 

I don't rule out the fight between Inoue and Casimero this year when they beat their respective fighters in dramatic and dominant ways, talks will resume about their rivalry, remember both fighters have heated arguments that Casimero started if only Casimero did not lose the title because of the weight issue.  
We are in the first quarter of the year and it will be profitable and good for both fighters' careers and the community as well if they will go for each other, some people think Casimero does not deserve to be Inoue's challenger how will this be for a three-division world champion and haven't loss big fights for the last five years.

[carlisle1]

By the way, guys, WBA and IBF champion Murdojon Akhmadaliev will defend his belts this weekend on DAZN against Marlon Tapales. Casimero might face the winner of this fight or the Inoue-Fulton winner by next year.
 

It would be better if Casimero faces the winner of that fight. If he wins, he can then face the winner of the Inoue vs. Fulton fight. That way, Casimero's wish to face Inoue for a unification belt will be granted. I really hope this happens as Casimero has missed out on many opportunities in his career and deserves a big fight.

Wow, if that will happen for sure, that will be the biggest dream fight Casimero will ever have in this new division. Just imagine
if Inoue will take Fulton and destiny direct both Inoue and Casimero inside the ring.

For sure, it will be what the fans will really love to see, those previous trash talks that didn't materialize due to the un-strip of Casimero's belt.

They will be able to continue that here if fate will allow them, adding to that maybe it's much exciting to see if both Inoue and Casimero
have the belts to unify it all.

[Vaculin]

OP @bisdak40 should change the date on the title, it's not May 3 it's May 13 people may think that the fight is over when it's still 8 days to go Casimero is all hype on this fight he wants to give his local fans something they will really enjoy, his last four fights are held abroad and last time he fought in the Philippines was in 2019 so I expect Casimero to knock Nghitumbwa to please the local fans its part of his comeback fight to regain the title if he is serious in his weight management he will be champion again.

Update:  my bad I think I still have an April fools day hang up on me but still the date should be May 13 not May 3

Thanks for the heads up mate.

Will change the title reflecting the final date of the fight now.

Per interview of Casimero here in Cebu, there is an ongoing negotiation for him to fight Inoue this December, heard it directly on his mouth so this might be true or maybe another April Fools act hehe

Yes, that came right from his mouth and hopefully that's true though because we all know that we wanted it ever since the both of them are still on their previous weight class. Anyway, let's tackle about that sometime in the future as that's not yet sure, what we have now in-front of us is the real deal and John Riel Casimero really needed this in his favor to lift his position in the ladder.

[goldkingcoiner]

Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?

I think that if you are going to list stats you might as well list the stats of both fighters so people can compare, don't you think?

Casimero stats:

Total fights   36
Wins                   32
Wins by KO   22
Losses           4

I have never heard of Nghitumbwa before and I would not bet on some no-name with a mediocre boxing record, especially when up against someone like Casimero, who has proven himself time and time again. I am going to be watching the match with interest and keeping an eye on the new guy though. He might have some potential if he actually wins this fight. Lets see what happens.

[bisdak40]

@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

[Kasabus]

OP @bisdak40 should change the date on the title, it's not May 3 it's May 13 people may think that the fight is over when it's still 8 days to go Casimero is all hype on this fight he wants to give his local fans something they will really enjoy, his last four fights are held abroad and last time he fought in the Philippines was in 2019 so I expect Casimero to knock Nghitumbwa to please the local fans its part of his comeback fight to regain the title if he is serious in his weight management he will be champion again.

Update:  my bad I think I still have an April fools day hang up on me but still the date should be May 13 not May 3

Thanks for the heads up mate.

Will change the title reflecting the final date of the fight now.

Per interview of Casimero here in Cebu, there is an ongoing negotiation for him to fight Inoue this December, heard it directly on his mouth so this might be true or maybe another April Fools act hehe

Yes, that came right from his mouth and hopefully that's true though because we all know that we wanted it ever since the both of them are still on their previous weight class. Anyway, let's tackle about that sometime in the future as that's not yet sure, what we have now in-front of us is the real deal and John Riel Casimero really needed this in his favor to lift his position in the ladder.

Don't be deceived about that news as you guys have already knew that it is not yet sure that it will indeed happen this coming December of 2023. Both camps haven't released any statements regarding about that bout nor an article was released that it was actually rumored because both camps are starting their discussion behind closed doors.

We all know that both of them still have their own respective fights to finish and that means that both of them are still busy preparing for it, other than that, the fate of that fight is also relying on the outcome of their respective fights. So, my take is that it is safe to assume that there are no ongoing discussions on both camps.

[stadus]

Just announced a few hours ago that Johnriel Casimero will be fighting against an unknown opponent (at least to many) and his name is Fillipus Nghitumbwa. Per below boxing record, his resume is not impressive so i think this will be a walk in the park for Quadro Alas.

This fight may not be so exciting to some users here but for us coming from the PH, Quadro Alas fighting in his country is a big thing as we seldom see him fight in the PH when he become a world champion.

Nghitumbwa for his part has not fought on foreign land and he got not much experience with only 13 fights but still hoping that he could give Casimero a competitive fight.

What do you guys think of this fight?

I think that if you are going to list stats you might as well list the stats of both fighters so people can compare, don't you think?

Casimero stats:

Total fights   36
Wins                   32
Wins by KO   22
Losses           4

I have never heard of Nghitumbwa before and I would not bet on some no-name with a mediocre boxing record, especially when up against someone like Casimero, who has proven himself time and time again. I am going to be watching the match with interest and keeping an eye on the new guy though. He might have some potential if he actually wins this fight. Lets see what happens.

Well, since you started on listing Casimero's stats. I'll finish it by listing Nghitumbwa's stats as well.

As per boxrec.com, Filipus Nghitumbwa aka Energy

Total Fights:      13
Wins:                12
Wins by KO:      11
KO rate:           84.62%
Losses:             1

Nghitumbwa might have a decent record but most of his fights are just fought locally where he will also face an unknown boxer like him and if we compare it to Casimero's records deeply, this unknown boxer doesn't have any exposures with good names in the industry and that is a huge plus for Casimero because aside from the experience, he also got the IQ needed to gain another advantage inside the ring.

[Kemarit]

@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

So this is a big fight for him and maybe he feel some pressure in the beginning because he wants to show his local fans his boxing skills.

Nevertheless, as he warm enough in the first couple of rounds, I'm expecting a old version of Casimero that is going to score a knockout or maybe the referee stopping the fight because he has put to much damage to Nghitumbwa.

[ultrloa]

@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

[Questat]

@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

It depends on the status of Casimero because Inoue's fight with Fulton is a championship fight. If Inoue wins, he will become a champion, and therefore Casimero needs to be either a top contender or a champion as well in order for Inoue to agree to unify their belts.

However, it's still too early to talk about that. What Casimero has to do is to continue fighting and continue winning. Eventually, he will get to that stage, assuming that Inoue is not avoiding him.

[ultrloa]

@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

It depends on the status of Casimero because Inoue's fight with Fulton is a championship fight. If Inoue wins, he will become a champion, and therefore Casimero needs to be either a top contender or a champion as well in order for Inoue to agree to unify their belts.

However, it's still too early to talk about that. What Casimero has to do is to continue fighting and continue winning. Eventually, he will get to that stage, assuming that Inoue is not avoiding him.

Inoue will became more higher to reach if he win against Fulton so Casimero really need to get a big wins coming from various top contender so that he became a relevant choice for Inoue's camp. But let's forget about Inoue for a while since for now their fight is seems impossible to happen and he need to focus on his training to get a good win against his K.O artist opponent.