[Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)

[Jating]

@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

It depends on the status of Casimero because Inoue's fight with Fulton is a championship fight. If Inoue wins, he will become a champion, and therefore Casimero needs to be either a top contender or a champion as well in order for Inoue to agree to unify their belts.

However, it's still too early to talk about that. What Casimero has to do is to continue fighting and continue winning. Eventually, he will get to that stage, assuming that Inoue is not avoiding him.

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.

[roslinpl]

I don't rule out the fight between Inoue and Casimero this year when they beat their respective fighters in dramatic and dominant ways, talks will resume about their rivalry, remember both fighters have heated arguments that Casimero started if only Casimero did not lose the title because of the weight issue.  
We are in the first quarter of the year and it will be profitable and good for both fighters' careers and the community as well if they will go for each other, some people think Casimero does not deserve to be Inoue's challenger how will this be for a three-division world champion and haven't loss big fights for the last five years.

Casimero had own set of rules in his game. He do whatever he feels comfortable to win, sometimes he used his own strategy to win the opponent. The strategy of Casimero was fight till the enemy accepts his victory. Most probably Casimero do the stamina based fight, if the opponent loss his stamina. Then he will not ready to the reverse punch. So the opponent lose his all stamina and start to admits him to loss.Now we are in first quarter of the year,most of funds will be move to crypto currency field. Casimero doesn’t have any loss of match in recent years. So this will be the best opportunity for him to make some good win from their investment. The match between Casimero and Nghitumbwa is not an equal match. Most of the gamblers here will know, the Winner of this game is Casimero and not Nghitumbwa.

[Kelvinid]

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.

We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

[carlisle1]

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.

We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

He just need to keep fighting each time there's a schedule fight for him, from that he might attract or gain
the interest of every potential promoter to bring him to a good matchup.

Nothing that he can do about that as he moves to this new division without holding any belt, so there's no way for him to get any privilege

Just enjoy the upcoming fight and wait for the next one..

[Fatunad]

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.

We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

He just need to keep fighting each time there's a schedule fight for him, from that he might attract or gain
the interest of every potential promoter to bring him to a good matchup.

Nothing that he can do about that as he moves to this new division without holding any belt, so there's no way for him to get any privilege

Just enjoy the upcoming fight and wait for the next one..

As a boxer then you should really be having this kind of mindset on which winning up on every match which is been thrown to you because no matter how you would be longing for a certain fighter but your performance or record doesnt really match up then its impossible that you would really be able to make that fight happen. Of course promoters or the organization would definitely going in line on the rules and match set ups
according on what division you are in and if its really that mandatory or something that been suggested or been inlined. This is why it is really better to focus
on whatever matches that would be arranged up along the way.

[Yatsan]

Nghitumbwabis the underdog in this match up. If it is just stats and experience, Riel Casimero has the advantage for sure. But what seems to be interesting is their fighting strategies wherein both are not knockout machines and both prefer taking time to secure the win. I wouldn't personally bet on this one 'coz I am not really familiar with Casimero's opponent aside from his win-loss record. But this is just to give my insight with this match up. Both are orthodox boxers which is what we often see. Most likely, the outcome would be through unanimous decision given that none of them are really agressive inside the ring, unless changes would be made. Would still be a mtch up which is interesting.

[molsewid]

As a boxer then you should really be having this kind of mindset on which winning up on every match which is been thrown to you because no matter how you would be longing for a certain fighter but your performance or record doesnt really match up then its impossible that you would really be able to make that fight happen. Of course promoters or the organization would definitely going in line on the rules and match set ups
according on what division you are in and if its really that mandatory or something that been suggested or been inlined. This is why it is really better to focus
on whatever matches that would be arranged up along the way.

I agree to you mate, for it doesn't really matter if he will go against not so well-known boxer if he really wants to improve his record and also widen his experience, as what we can see Casimero's opponent has a lot of potential he has a good number of KO and doesn't have any loses. Maybe he is not yet known very well in this place but soon enough after this match whether he will win or he will lose he will get the attention of other promoters .

[goldkingcoiner]

@goldkingcoiner, agree with you mate that stats could help some users here to have some understanding or idea about this relatively unknown opponent of Casimero, I'll just update the OP if I have the time as I'm busy at the moment IRL,

I don't think that there will be an upset here because such thing could derail the plan of Casimero's promoter of him having a big fight in the near future, this will be an easy fight for him.

This is a cherry pick for fight for Casimero, so he will have to win this fight, otherwise the potential fight for Inoue or anyone in the division will not happen and it will life difficult for Casimero because he will have to start from scratch again.

What I think even if he win on this match he can't still successfully acquire the attention of Inoue's promoter to deal with up with him and negotiate about their fight. If they want to do it well they set it up before but many notice that they are avoiding and choose to fight another opponent.

Maybe he need to get more win on big fights so that they cannot escape if they challenge Inoue and fans commentary about they want to make this fight to happen.

I agree, and if he loses, it will have a much worse outcome for Casimero as well... But I also think that for the new guy, Nghitumbwa, if he wins he will have an amazing opportunity to gain the interest of some big name promoters but if he loses, then that might be able to put a damper on his career although perhaps it is a win win situation for him because he has nothing much to lose, unlike Casimero. If Casimero loses against a no-name thats pretty much a death sentence to him ever getting the attention of Inoue's promoter.

[bisdak40]

Nghitumbwabis the underdog in this match up. If it is just stats and experience, Riel Casimero has the advantage for sure. But what seems to be interesting is their fighting strategies wherein both are not knockout machines and both prefer taking time to secure the win. I wouldn't personally bet on this one 'coz I am not really familiar with Casimero's opponent aside from his win-loss record. But this is just to give my insight with this match up. Both are orthodox boxers which is what we often see. Most likely, the outcome would be through unanimous decision given that none of them are really agressive inside the ring, unless changes would be made. Would still be a mtch up which is interesting.

I seldom speculated a fight to not reach the distance but with this fight, I'm putting my money that this fight will not reach seven rounds. Casimero will go all out here to impress his fans and promoter and putting this opponent to sleep is the target which is very possible because of his opponent's lack of experience.

[Finestream]

And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.

No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.

Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s  not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

[goinmerry]

Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s  not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I have to agree that even Casimero is a trash-talker, he can backed it on the actual fight. Unlike other boxers that just pure of talks.

I don't see though that this fight will be an easy win to Casimero but at least he should win by 90%.

Casimero faces already a much ranked boxer compare to his upcoming opponent. He should not have a big problem here.

[btc_angela]

And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.

No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.

Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s  not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I guess that's why he loves to trash talk, definitely he can back it up, but he wanted to play mind games as well. So that's how good Casimero in my opinion, just like what he did when he called Inoue and almost made the fight.

And I think up to this day, he is still looking for that big fight against Inoue.

But it had to wait for the meantime, he has a fighter in front of him and he needs to win this thru knockout and as what the majority says, because that will be a statement and sending his message to all rank fighters here that he will be a threat for the belt.

[stadus]

As a boxer then you should really be having this kind of mindset on which winning up on every match which is been thrown to you because no matter how you would be longing for a certain fighter but your performance or record doesnt really match up then its impossible that you would really be able to make that fight happen. Of course promoters or the organization would definitely going in line on the rules and match set ups
according on what division you are in and if its really that mandatory or something that been suggested or been inlined. This is why it is really better to focus
on whatever matches that would be arranged up along the way.

I agree to you mate, for it doesn't really matter if he will go against not so well-known boxer if he really wants to improve his record and also widen his experience, as what we can see Casimero's opponent has a lot of potential he has a good number of KO and doesn't have any loses. Maybe he is not yet known very well in this place but soon enough after this match whether he will win or he will lose he will get the attention of other promoters .

No need for him to rush things out because he might get surprised by the opponents waiting for him at the top if he won't get himself accustomed first. The likes of Inoue, Fulton and Murodjon won't get themselves attached to someone like Casimero because doesn't have any reputation yet built at 122 that's why he should make a statement on this fight so that he can aim on the interim belt holders.

[bisdak40]

And speaking about this fight, Casimero  for sure might be back on his trash talking and his brandish style. I haven't check his social media though as to what he is going to say or his prediction in this fight. But for sure, he is going to aim for a knockout victory and make a statement as we have been saying in this division.

No doubt about that, it's not Casimero if it won't be like that. I'm sure this will be an easy win and expect a knockout result but let's see how his performance is after his last controversial fight which is good one.

Casimero may do trash talk again but he definitely knows how to proved it up especially when his opponent is not as impressive and famous fighter as he is. Surely, this fight might be an easy win for him, but let’s  not also underestimate the performance of his opponent. He might be an exciting fighter that may give Casimero a good and competitive fight.

I guess that's why he loves to trash talk, definitely he can back it up, but he wanted to play mind games as well. So that's how good Casimero in my opinion, just like what he did when he called Inoue and almost made the fight.

And I think up to this day, he is still looking for that big fight against Inoue.

But it had to wait for the meantime, he has a fighter in front of him and he needs to win this thru knockout and as what the majority says, because that will be a statement and sending his message to all rank fighters here that he will be a threat for the belt.

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

[Kemarit]

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

[BitcoinPanther]

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

Casimero used to be a not trash talker but he find out that his career is getting dulled and boring until he discovered that showboating and trashtalking caters the interest and attention of fans.  So he decided to be a trash talker just for the sake of getting the interests and curiosity of the viewers and it did make him sensational in some point of his career until he got a problem in meeting his weight limit and got stripped of the title.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

I agree, Casimero has a good heart, his trashtalking and showboating is just for an act to give fans entertainment and at the same time boost his incoming fights. 

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

No matter who his opponent is, what important is that he can give his best performance for the fight.  He needs it especially when he is starting from a scratch in this division.

[sunsilk]

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.

[Silberman]

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

If Casimero wants to fight Inoue he needs a belt, otherwise I do not see Inoue holding any interest on fighting him, and this is because boxing is a business, as we know Inoue was supposed to fight Casimero but due to the problems Casimero had with his weight he was unable to do it, do not you think Inoue was mad about it? As not only he wasted a great deal of time studying Casimero, but he probably got even less money than what he had in mind since he was forced to fight Butler instead.

[Pamadar]

I forgot on when Casimero became a trash talker but I definitely agree that he can walk the talk and he is still undefeated since he captured that belt against Tete, correct me if I'm wrong.

But we should not forget that even if he is a trash talker, the guy has a good heart outside of the ring and he has helped a lot of people in their community when the pandemic hits.

For him to be able to fight Inoue, he should have a belt to depend to as that belt will give him a little leverage and that would start now by knocking out his opponent come May 13.

If Casimero wants to fight Inoue he needs a belt, otherwise I do not see Inoue holding any interest on fighting him, and this is because boxing is a business, as we know Inoue was supposed to fight Casimero but due to the problems Casimero had with his weight he was unable to do it, do not you think Inoue was mad about it? As not only he wasted a great deal of time studying Casimero, but he probably got even less money than what he had in mind since he was forced to fight Butler instead.

That's something relevant to what happened, I agree that each fighters are also investing time with how they will going to create a good strategy to beat their opponents.

And Yes, it almost happened if only Casimero manage to stay in his weight and secure a win with Butler,
that next fight should be against Inoue, a good money fight that might bring huge numbers of sales and sponsorship
if both are still have belts to risk during the fight.

[Jawhead999]

No need for him to rush things out because he might get surprised by the opponents waiting for him at the top if he won't get himself accustomed first. The likes of Inoue, Fulton and Murodjon won't get themselves attached to someone like Casimero because doesn't have any reputation yet built at 122 that's why he should make a statement on this fight so that he can aim on the interim belt holders.

Yeah Casimero is nothing at super bantamweight division, he need to fight at least 2-3 and it should be at top 10 boxers in super bantamweight division, so he can take a challenge with top 3 or 4 for interim belt.

We still don't know what's the next path Casimero will do if he win this fight, some boxers sometime tend to move to the next weight or lower his weight without any clear reason. If he think super bantamweight is too much for him, he may back to bantamweight again.