[Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)

[carlisle1]

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

More on how aggressive but yet patient you are to connect that lucky punch to win the fight.

Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.

[bisdak40]

Just sharing a snap shot from the vlog of Casimero showing Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash having a serious conversation  .

There are rumors that Donaire would help in the training of Casimero here in Cebu but with his coming fight with Alejandro, i don't think that it would materialize due to time constraints.

Nevertheless, it is a welcome sight for both of them training in the same gym.


ctto

[sunsilk]

^ Yes, hard to say when he started to trash talk, but most likely when he had the belt already or at least he some something to brag on and that's why he starts to talk bad about his opponent or even call others boxers like Inoue and tell him that he is going to beat him hard, LOL. That is the sign of Casimero already, it's that he hit a wall when he was unable to depend his belt at bantamweight because of his weight issues.

But after moving up, Akaho fight? not good for us, because it's very controversial.

Now, again no name in Nghitumbwa, but he should easily win this fight and knock him out so that he can continue to trash talk everyone in this division.

That make sense and discerning that he won't talk with bad mouth if he's not prepared for his opponent and match.

Before he releases some bad words to gain attention of both his and opponent's fans, he's got a vision on his mind of the result of what he might say.

This fight looks easy for us fans to say that he's got this but I'll still make boundaries that there could be some lucky punch that can be thrown and the possibility of it.

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

More on how aggressive but yet patient you are to connect that lucky punch to win the fight.

Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.

He wouldn't be that confident to talk trash to his opponent if he has got no big tool to show. But then, he is serious with it and that is why he can just anything he wants to say.

Just sharing a snap shot from the vlog of Casimero showing Quadro Alas and the Filipino Flash having a serious conversation  .

There are rumors that Donaire would help in the training of Casimero here in Cebu but with his coming fight with Alejandro, i don't think that it would materialize due to time constraints.

Nevertheless, it is a welcome sight for both of them training in the same gym.


ctto

This is good to know that they are training in the same gym. Both will give each of their own opinions to their respective fights or experiences or situations.

Or just the typical casual talks that isn't really new to both of them.

[harizen]

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

If that lucky punch is strong, then it's possible to KO an opponent. If that lucky punch successfully land on the opponent but unfortunately, the opponent able to withstand that lucky punch because of lack of power, then that was all useless.

Casimero is built with a strong chin and overall, with a great sturdiness that is capable of withstanding any big blows against any boxer at the bantamweight and super bantamweight division that's why Nghitumbwa doesn't just need to find that lucky shot but also needed a big power if he's attempting to put Casimero on the canvass.

However, technically, hard to imagine for me that Casimero will kiss the canvass against Nghitumbwa.

[goinmerry]

Following you, before throwing trash talks, a fighter already envisioning the possibilities and how he will want the fight to end,
he's aiming to work with his words and will try to accomplish what he said.

A trashtalk by Casimero seems also his way to make himself hype at the fight.

For all the trashtalk that Casimero needs, in fairness, he is able to show that he is not just by words but can send a big statement once he fights.

Casimero just needs to throw his trash talk in not considered below the belt to make things not worst.

[Viscore]

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.

We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

I would agree to this. This fight maybe an easy win for Casimero since it’s obvious that he got all the advantage compared to his opponent. But honestly, matches like this will not improve and level up his boxing career. He should be pair with another impressive fighter so that there is more challenge and that the audience too will be more entertained watching them. I just hope after this fight, Casimero will face a challenger that is also equal with his potentials as that will determine who is really the undisputed one.

[Fredomago]

Just baby steps for Casimero starting in this fight and I think he will be good in this division. Inoue on the other hand has his hands full with Fulton and maybe the other champion in this division.

They might take a different path, but if Inoue win against Fulton then all roads lead to him. So Casimero will have to win every fight moving forward starting here. And he should fight big name after this one so that he will be recognized by the governing body as a potential mandatory fighter for Inoue in the future. So still there is a big chance for him to face Inoue as this is the fight that he wanted since bantamweight.

We could assume that it was an easy fight for Casimero, unlike the way we think if he fights against Inoue. But it looks like their path is too long to cross but fans are waiting.

But in this fight of Casimero against a not known boxer, it is something it won't help to bring him closer to a big fight but just drop it down. We don't know of their plan but honestly, it is more interesting to witness his fight if he faces known boxers in his current division, unlike this which was just like an easy game for him(in my opinion).

I would agree to this. This fight maybe an easy win for Casimero since it’s obvious that he got all the advantage compared to his opponent. But honestly, matches like this will not improve and level up his boxing career. He should be pair with another impressive fighter so that there is more challenge and that the audience too will be more entertained watching them. I just hope after this fight, Casimero will face a challenger that is also equal with his potentials as that will determine who is really the undisputed one.

Might be a stepping stair for him to bring his name on top, with a good expectation from him to win the fight. Maybe knocking his opponent down will surely help to hype his name. He can't do nothing or demand to anything as he doesn't have anything to offer. His name is new to this division and, aside from getting the attention of good promoters, he also needs to work his way to be noticed by the organization.

We all know that this sport is also a business and if it's good for the business, it's always possible to do something to bring profits.

[Maslate]

And that's always possible. Landing a lucky punch that will bring your opponent's down and win with a KO is not
impossible to happen inside the ring.

If that lucky punch is strong, then it's possible to KO an opponent. If that lucky punch successfully land on the opponent but unfortunately, the opponent able to withstand that lucky punch because of lack of power, then that was all useless.

Casimero is built with a strong chin and overall, with a great sturdiness that is capable of withstanding any big blows against any boxer at the bantamweight and super bantamweight division that's why Nghitumbwa doesn't just need to find that lucky shot but also needed a big power if he's attempting to put Casimero on the canvass.

However, technically, hard to imagine for me that Casimero will kiss the canvass against Nghitumbwa.

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

[molsewid]

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

We really don't know what will happen mate, maybe it will be the opposite way? Casimero will win instead of Nghitumbwa, there are endless possibilities though the matches of Casimero's opponent is. not yet known to the public but we can erase the fact that he is also a good boxer with  years of experienced. This will be very interesting fight, one will get his name in the lime light again or one will get the spotlight.

[yazher]

A trashtalk by Casimero seems also his way to make himself hype at the fight.
For all the trashtalk that Casimero needs, in fairness, he is able to show that he is not just by words but can send a big statement once he fights.
Casimero just needs to throw his trash talk in not considered below the belt to make things not worst.

That's right he also needs to control his emotions when he is with the media because they can actually manipulate his statement whenever they want. He needs to focus on the fight first and also not be carried away when he wins it because whenever he wins a fight, he seems comfortable trash-talking anyone, and mostly his words are not suitable for his current state of fame. because the fans seem taking it badly from him especially those who don't want to see him at the top.

[BitcoinPanther]

A trashtalk by Casimero seems also his way to make himself hype at the fight.

There is no other reason why Casimero trashtalk his opponent but to put more hype and interest to his upcoming fight.  Hopefully it is effective in getting the attention of viewers.

For all the trashtalk that Casimero needs, in fairness, he is able to show that he is not just by words but can send a big statement once he fights.

Casimero just needs to throw his trash talk in not considered below the belt to make things not worst.

That is what I like wit Casimero, he walk the talk.  If ever he trashtalk his opponent, he make sure that he can prove that he has the right to trashtalk.  Though I agree that he needs limitation but I think it is somehow hard since the trashtalk to be successful it needs to be personal.

That's right he also needs to control his emotions when he is with the media because they can actually manipulate his statement whenever they want. He needs to focus on the fight first and also not be carried away when he wins it because whenever he wins a fight, he seems comfortable trash-talking anyone, and mostly his words are not suitable for his current state of fame. because the fans seem taking it badly from him especially those who don't want to see him at the top.

I believe Casimero knows what he is doing when it comes to trastalking.  If ever you noticed, Casimero is either angry or irritated when he trashtalk but rather he is grinning as sign of provocation.  With that, I think Casimero is in control of his emotion.

[stadus]

No need for him to rush things out because he might get surprised by the opponents waiting for him at the top if he won't get himself accustomed first. The likes of Inoue, Fulton and Murodjon won't get themselves attached to someone like Casimero because doesn't have any reputation yet built at 122 that's why he should make a statement on this fight so that he can aim on the interim belt holders.

Yeah Casimero is nothing at super bantamweight division, he need to fight at least 2-3 and it should be at top 10 boxers in super bantamweight division, so he can take a challenge with top 3 or 4 for interim belt.

We still don't know what's the next path Casimero will do if he win this fight, some boxers sometime tend to move to the next weight or lower his weight without any clear reason. If he think super bantamweight is too much for him, he may back to bantamweight again.

That is the goal for now, first is defeat Nghitumbwa for a clear reason because he is blocking the way towards the upper bracket and then after that, Casimero should at least fight another opponent before this year of 2023 ends. He still got a lot of time to rest after this bout as this is scheduled in May, so after 2-3 months of rest while considering that he's not that seriously damaged on this bout, he should fight another opponent for a year ender so that he can improve his standing.

[bisdak40]

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight. 

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.

[serjent05]

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight. 

We might think that Nghitumbwa is not a dangerous opponent for Casimero but just like what @harizen stated, a boxer can be KO'ed anytime if a lucky punch hit him.  Lucky punch is considered a  heavy punch that can renders the opponent unable to continue the fight.  Nghitumbwa has an impressive KO record, whether it is his neighbor or households that got KO'ed by him, it is obvious that Nghitumbwa  punches have stings.

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.

Obviously, if the training is light, we can see how relaxed a boxer is but if it is intensive training, we can see how serious their faces is.  After all a person's facial expression depends on how hard the activity is.

[AmoreJaz]

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight.  

We might think that Nghitumbwa is not a dangerous opponent for Casimero but just like what @harizen stated, a boxer can be KO'ed anytime if a lucky punch hit him.  Lucky punch is considered a  heavy punch that can renders the opponent unable to continue the fight.  Nghitumbwa has an impressive KO record, whether it is his neighbor or households that got KO'ed by him, it is obvious that Nghitumbwa  punches have stings.

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.

Obviously, if the training is light, we can see how relaxed a boxer is but if it is intensive training, we can see how serious their faces is.  After all a person's facial expression depends on how hard the activity is.

if Casimero's camp won't have a well-prepared training plan, even if his opponent doesn't have big name yet, he can easily lose this fight. as with his current standing, he should take every fight seriously as he needs to grind again to revive his popularity and to get at least a belt under his name.
when it comes to vlogs, we are not seeing their 24/7 preparation. so i won't judge them too quickly. he may be showing a different side as compared to what is their real prep. casimero is in his home turf, so i don't know anymore reasons if he failed this bid.
if he will lose this again, maybe, time to re-assess his priorities when it comes to boxing career.

[danherbias07]

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight. 

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.

As I said before, it will be the experience that will give Casimero the upper hand in this fight.
Some boxers can be rattled the first they are around big lights and this is where Casimero should take advantage with. The time while Nghitumbwa is still getting used to the big crowd.

It's true his camp is relaxed but I don't see him being lazy about his training, that truly is a good sign for the upcoming fight, but I do wonder if they are also going to use the same strategy as they did with Tete.
I just realized now that there's also a title on the line. WBO Global Super Bantamweight is being held by Nghitumbwa.

[Mahanton]

For that to happen, Nghitumbwa should gather all the luck in the world and bring it on that fight just to make Casimero kneel down or worse, kiss the canvass because if he's not that lucky then I think it is already safe to assume that his fate is already predicted as there's no way he can upset the former champion, Casimero. I mean, we surely can weigh the difference of their power just by looking at their records and this Nghitumbwa still haven't got any good calibers in his record that he defeated.

All that Nghitumbwa defeated were his neighbors in his place they said hehe. Even though the former had some power but i think this would not be enough to bring down Casimero. He is not used to fighting in a foreign land which would be a big factor because you will not be comfortable with a hostile crowd plus the fact that the judges here would be biased toward Casimero because this is his fight. 

If you look at the vlogs of Casimero where they post some of their training/jogging, it seems that Team Casimero is so relaxed and has no pressure at all, this is a good sign for me going into this tune-up fight.

As I said before, it will be the experience that will give Casimero the upper hand in this fight.
Some boxers can be rattled the first they are around big lights and this is where Casimero should take advantage with. The time while Nghitumbwa is still getting used to the big crowd.

It's true his camp is relaxed but I don't see him being lazy about his training, that truly is a good sign for the upcoming fight, but I do wonder if they are also going to use the same strategy as they did with Tete.
I just realized now that there's also a title on the line. WBO Global Super Bantamweight is being held by Nghitumbwa.

Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

[harizen]

Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Surely Casimero isn't the type of boxer that always feels confident in an actual fight. As much as possible, he's even trying to pulverize his opponent as much as he can. Regardless if Nghitumbwa is known or not, Casimero will have the same approach which is to take down his opponent and win in a convincing way.

Casimero is currently on the goal of climbing the rankings in order to be included again in the contender's discussion.

That's the reason why he needs to aggressively KO every one of his opponents, to be recognized.

[goinmerry]

Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Should be a warm-up fight for Casimero. If he loses here, say goodbye to his goal of becoming a world champion again.

Nghitumbwa is nowhere within top rankings and recognized boxers. If Casimero will struggle against him, what's more to the top ranked boxers.

Casimero just neeeds again to impress the boxing fans with a good KO win. If he do that, WBO might moved up him in rankings to at least Top 5.

[Natalim]

Im not really that so convinced that Nghitumbwa would really be having that kind of crowd pressure considering that he held that belt then its impossible that he isnt really get used to big crowd.
You wouldnt really be able to achieve up such state or condition if you do easily get rattled when ever you do able to encounter this kind of ambiance which it is unlikely would be an issue.
Speaking about experience then Casimero is really on edge but he shouldnt really be that confident when it comes to this because we know that upsets
could really fucked you up hard if you are really that careless.

Should be a warm-up fight for Casimero. If he loses here, say goodbye to his goal of becoming a world champion again.

Nghitumbwa is nowhere within top rankings and recognized boxers. If Casimero will struggle against him, what's more to the top ranked boxers.

Casimero just neeeds again to impress the boxing fans with a good KO win. If he do that, WBO might moved up him in rankings to at least Top 5.

I see this fight the same way. Nghitumbwa should be a great matchup for him if he goes toe to toe. Nghitumbwa is a knockout artist himself, which means he relies on his power a lot to win. This also means he'll be an aggressive fighter, something we haven't seen in Casimero's opponents in a while.