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April 20, 2023, 11:36:15 PM
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I really hope Casimero is training like he is fighting a championship fight. When he fought in Korea earlier, he left his country and trained in Thailand to keep away from distractions. Now I heard he is training in Cebu, Philippines but together with Nonito Donaire who is also to challenge another title. It does not guarantee that Casimero can focus though since he is most likely not staying in the same house with Donaire.

Casimero better be ready for any kind of style if he wants to become a champion. Inoue might be heavy-handed but he is not the type of fighter that wants to brawl. Fulton and Tapales can brawl but they are pretty much technical fighters as well. Casimero gets schooled by any of these fighters if he is only expecting them to brawl.

Speaking of training, i think Casimero is on the right track. He's been training on one of Cebu's finest boxing gym, Omega boxing gym which is his stable back then on the early stage of his career if I'm not mistaken.

He even sparred with Inoue's sparring mate (link to the video below) and if i were to decide if he is ready by just looking at the sparring I could say that he is as the bounce and footwork is there and even his sparring partner (Pete Apolinario) said that Casimero hit harder than Inoue which I think a sugar-coated statement from him hehe.

Bottom line, his training for his upcoming fight is okay because so far no distractions from the media as he is not as popular like Manny Pacquaio, and no night life if we are going to base our speculations on his vlog hehe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61uL6TJ8pM&ab_channel=QuadroAlasit%E2%80%99smyboy

Though he already got a name but he's not as popular as Manny, and for me that count in terms of preparing to this fight,
no destruction will give him enough space to find the best strategy for this fight.

Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.
The more the hype the more ticket sales it would be having and also it would be adding up more exposure into his name and would really be having that positive outcome when it comes to its career.
Yes, he might not be as popular like MP but at least he is already been considered to be famous out of this sport but of course he should really be able to prove out because lots had
been expecting for him to win.I dont know if he would be able to have that complete dominance of this upcoming fight but he should really be doing so
because he had those plans on catching up with Inoue then it is really just that right on having this kind of outcome.

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April 21, 2023, 01:41:08 AM
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Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.
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April 21, 2023, 02:17:57 AM
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This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.
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April 22, 2023, 07:06:14 AM
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Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.

I think the venue is already fixed as there are no announcements too that the bout is not that sure because the details aren't released. It's just that this bout is not that big that's why we aren't getting any news or have read any article. Say to safe that it is already a fixed event  because we are now approaching the end of April and they are looking forward to make the fight happen in May 13.

Date & Time: May 13, 2023 at 7:00 AM (ET)
Place: Okada Manila Hotel and Casino (Paranaque City, Metro Manila, Philipines)
Tale of the Tape: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/750516-nghitumbwa-vs-casimero-fillipus-nghitumbwa-vs-john-riel-quadro-alas-casimero

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April 22, 2023, 06:39:31 PM
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Knowing Casimero, he will be there, I mean, he will hype his name using a social media platform. It's his way of promoting a fight and bring the attention.

Maybe he's working harder to bring explosive outcome in this upcoming fight. He wants something to bring a good hype to his name.

While he can hype the fight, there's no need to hype it too much if it will happen in the Philippines because it's sure to be a sold-out crowd. Since it's not a championship fight yet, it does not deserve to take place in the US. Although there's no official statement yet on the venue, I'm speculating that it will happen in Casimero's home country, and he'll certainly be more inspired fighting in front of his fellow Filipinos.

I think the venue is already fixed as there are no announcements too that the bout is not that sure because the details aren't released. It's just that this bout is not that big that's why we aren't getting any news or have read any article. Say to safe that it is already a fixed event  because we are now approaching the end of April and they are looking forward to make the fight happen in May 13.

Date & Time: May 13, 2023 at 7:00 AM (ET)
Place: Okada Manila Hotel and Casino (Paranaque City, Metro Manila, Philipines)
Tale of the Tape: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/bouts/750516-nghitumbwa-vs-casimero-fillipus-nghitumbwa-vs-john-riel-quadro-alas-casimero

Thanks for sharing this mate, this really mean that this fight will indeed happen in Manila because I was afraid of some delays as there are some rumors circulating in the past weeks saying that it is not yet sure that this fight will pushed through in the Philippines because there is no official announcement released and frankly, I didn't see any marketing to advertise this bout. But since this fight will happen in Casimero's country, it's safe to say that it will be a sold-out fight.

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April 22, 2023, 06:54:09 PM
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The fight is very close now. One thing in boxing game is experience and endurance and determination. So if Johnriel Casimero has the believed that he can do it then there is nothing to worry about it even thoug he has not known his opponent to fight with. All what he has to do is to prepare is skills and experienced approach to battle the unknown. The pro boxing fans will be happy to watch the fight. But not all are interested in boxing game. And also those who are not fans of boxing might have interest to watch the game.

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April 22, 2023, 07:14:30 PM
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The fight is very close now. One thing in boxing game is experience and endurance and determination. So if Johnriel Casimero has the believed that he can do it then there is nothing to worry about it even thoug he has not known his opponent to fight with. All what he has to do is to prepare is skills and experienced approach to battle the unknown. The pro boxing fans will be happy to watch the fight. But not all are interested in boxing game. And also those who are not fans of boxing might have interest to watch the game.
Fighting off an unknown or non popular boxer doesnt automatically means that it is a sure win, we should really put up into our minds that upsets and some comebacks could really happen in any sport which does
simply means that Casimero shouldnt really be taking lightly his opponent on which it would be good that it would be finished off if he had the chance and secure out the win, instead on making it long
just for the sake on making those ticket sales and PPV to be worth but its not really that something that be known when it comes to that manner.
Lots had been rooting already about this match to be one sided but of course there always that slim chance which they shouldnt ignore on.

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April 22, 2023, 10:04:14 PM
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This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

I am looking at the fight as an easy win for Casimero but there is always a chance of an upset to happen.  So let us hope and pray that there will be no lucky punch for Nghtumbwa and got an upset win.


Fighting off an unknown or non popular boxer doesnt automatically means that it is a sure win, we should really put up into our minds that upsets and some comebacks could really happen in any sport which does
simply means that Casimero shouldnt really be taking lightly his opponent on which it would be good that it would be finished off if he had the chance and secure out the win, instead on making it long
just for the sake on making those ticket sales and PPV to be worth but its not really that something that be known when it comes to that manner.
Lots had been rooting already about this match to be one sided but of course there always that slim chance which they shouldnt ignore on.

I agree, one good example of such is the fight between Ledwaba and Pacquiao.  Pacquiao was unknown during that time and was just a replacement.  So he surprised the audience when he KO'ed Ledwaba in the early round of the fight.  Another good example is the recent championship title fight between Tapales and Akhmadaliev where the audience never expected that it will be an upset result.
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April 23, 2023, 03:57:48 PM
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This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

I am looking at the fight as an easy win for Casimero but there is always a chance of an upset to happen.  So let us hope and pray that there will be no lucky punch for Nghtumbwa and got an upset win.

I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.

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April 23, 2023, 04:26:41 PM
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This is indeed a walk in the park for Casimero. Nghitumbwa is nothing at Casimero's level. He will just be sent in Casimero's home country to be fed to the lion. But Casimero should first make sure that he is in perfect condition so that this fight will not be compromised as well just like his previous fights. And even if Nghitumbwa is just really somebody to defeat, as always in boxing, he could still upset the favorite. Casimero should cleanly knockout Nghitumbwa early in the fight to again gain attention and get better opponents.

I am looking at the fight as an easy win for Casimero but there is always a chance of an upset to happen.  So let us hope and pray that there will be no lucky punch for Nghtumbwa and got an upset win.

I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.

Or just one lucky punch, that hail mary that when Casimero is hit, it's goodnight for him. Just like when Marquez caught Pacquiao. Nevertheless, we can't compare those fights though. I think Casimero will still be cautious in the beginning of the round, just like against Akaho. And when he feels the power of his opponent, then that's where he is going to be aggressive. So yes, no reasons for him to lost in this fight and he needs to win this very bad so that he can still chase for the belt in this new division that he is campaigning.

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I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.

Or just one lucky punch, that hail mary that when Casimero is hit, it's goodnight for him. Just like when Marquez caught Pacquiao. Nevertheless, we can't compare those fights though. I think Casimero will still be cautious in the beginning of the round, just like against Akaho. And when he feels the power of his opponent, then that's where he is going to be aggressive. So yes, no reasons for him to lost in this fight and he needs to win this very bad so that he can still chase for the belt in this new division that he is campaigning.
It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.
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April 25, 2023, 04:51:55 PM
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I don't mean to underestimate this unknown boxer but I believe Nghitumbwa's sole and only chance to win this fight or at least have an advantage is if Casimero's problems in the past will chase him again in this weight class or if he will get injured while he's preparing for this fight. But since Casimero's weight is not an issue anymore in this division, then there will be no reasons that will hold back Casimero to defeat Nghitumbwa.

Or just one lucky punch, that hail mary that when Casimero is hit, it's goodnight for him. Just like when Marquez caught Pacquiao. Nevertheless, we can't compare those fights though. I think Casimero will still be cautious in the beginning of the round, just like against Akaho. And when he feels the power of his opponent, then that's where he is going to be aggressive. So yes, no reasons for him to lost in this fight and he needs to win this very bad so that he can still chase for the belt in this new division that he is campaigning.
It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.

But in this instance, that lucky punch is somehow not possible enough because we all know already that Casimero's chin can really weather some good punches and survive without laying in the canvass after weathering it. That's why I think that he got more chances to control the fight, dominate it and go home with a win. Moreover, he knew as well that he cannot afford to make some mistakes this time while he's still at the bottom of the food chain fighting to gain rankings because a defeat will definitely end his career.

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April 25, 2023, 07:15:16 PM
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It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.

Remember that in boxing, a lucky punch should always be associated with strong power. Even a boxer will manage to successfully land a blow on their opponent, if it's lacking power then it's useless. Referring to Nghitumbwa, his credentials at this point isn't yet enough to consider him a strong puncher in this division. On the other hand, Casimero is proven to have a well-built structure that for a chance to knock him down, his opponent should really have that strong punch that can withstand his defense.

Since Nghitumbwa is somehow new to the scene, we won't really know what he is capable of once he stepped on the ring.

For Casimero, should be a tune-up fight for him if the goal is to be included in the contender's list. Being defeated by a non-popular boxer and unranked like Nghitumbwa means Casimero is nowhere within the level of the top-ranked boxers at 122 lbs division. Although I don't see it happening.

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April 26, 2023, 06:18:10 PM
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It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.

Remember that in boxing, a lucky punch should always be associated with strong power. Even a boxer will manage to successfully land a blow on their opponent, if it's lacking power then it's useless. Referring to Nghitumbwa, his credentials at this point isn't yet enough to consider him a strong puncher in this division. On the other hand, Casimero is proven to have a well-built structure that for a chance to knock him down, his opponent should really have that strong punch that can withstand his defense.

Since Nghitumbwa is somehow new to the scene, we won't really know what he is capable of once he stepped on the ring.

For Casimero, should be a tune-up fight for him if the goal is to be included in the contender's list. Being defeated by a non-popular boxer and unranked like Nghitumbwa means Casimero is nowhere within the level of the top-ranked boxers at 122 lbs division. Although I don't see it happening.

It is also worth noting that John Riel Casimero is now on his comfortable division, or should I say at least he is on the right weight class where he is not having any problems anymore regarding on his weight. So, his built might be buffed a bit just like what we saw when he fought Akaho recently and meaning he can absorb and survive stronger punches this time as he is not that drained compared when he's still at 118.

This Nghitumbwa will just be a steppingstone, no matter how good I look at him because if he's that strong and can provide a good toe-to-toe fight with Casimero and other boxers in this industry, then I think by now we already know who he is and what he's made of. But since we don't know him that much, then that means he can't just stand in-front Casimero and block his way towards the bigger boys in this divsion.

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For Casimero, should be a tune-up fight for him if the goal is to be included in the contender's list. Being defeated by a non-popular boxer and unranked like Nghitumbwa means Casimero is nowhere within the level of the top-ranked boxers at 122 lbs division. Although I don't see it happening.

The worst thing that could happen to Casimero is if he takes this fight lightly. An unknown fighter could upset a popular fighter, but let's hope it doesn't happen. What we'd like to see is Casimero having an impressive win, preferably via knockout in the early rounds. There's lots of speculation about what could happen in this fight, but if we look at Nghitumbwa's real chances based on paper, it's certainly close to none.
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April 26, 2023, 10:09:20 PM
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It is true that a single punch is more than enough to change the outcome of any fight, and it is one of the aspects which makes boxing so exciting compared to other sports, as a boxer could be losing on the judge score cards with no possibility to obtain the victory this way and with a single punch they could win the fight and do so in a way that is not only more impressive but way more authoritative, as what can be more authoritative than to win while you are still standing up and your rival lays defeated on the floor.

Remember that in boxing, a lucky punch should always be associated with strong power. Even a boxer will manage to successfully land a blow on their opponent, if it's lacking power then it's useless. Referring to Nghitumbwa, his credentials at this point isn't yet enough to consider him a strong puncher in this division. On the other hand, Casimero is proven to have a well-built structure that for a chance to knock him down, his opponent should really have that strong punch that can withstand his defense.

Since Nghitumbwa is somehow new to the scene, we won't really know what he is capable of once he stepped on the ring.

For Casimero, should be a tune-up fight for him if the goal is to be included in the contender's list. Being defeated by a non-popular boxer and unranked like Nghitumbwa means Casimero is nowhere within the level of the top-ranked boxers at 122 lbs division. Although I don't see it happening.

It is also worth noting that John Riel Casimero is now on his comfortable division, or should I say at least he is on the right weight class where he is not having any problems anymore regarding on his weight. So, his built might be buffed a bit just like what we saw when he fought Akaho recently and meaning he can absorb and survive stronger punches this time as he is not that drained compared when he's still at 118.

This Nghitumbwa will just be a steppingstone, no matter how good I look at him because if he's that strong and can provide a good toe-to-toe fight with Casimero and other boxers in this industry, then I think by now we already know who he is and what he's made of. But since we don't know him that much, then that means he can't just stand in-front Casimero and block his way towards the bigger boys in this divsion.

I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.

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April 27, 2023, 04:33:49 AM
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I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.

Just a tune-up fight, I guess. It will only be a stepping stone if it's a big fight that would put him in position to be the number one contender, and then he'll get a chance to have a championship fight. Casimero is quite new to this division; IIRC, this is only his third fight. So, probably, more fights will come before he gets a shot to challenge the champion.
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April 27, 2023, 05:50:47 AM
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I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.

Just a tune-up fight, I guess. It will only be a stepping stone if it's a big fight that would put him in position to be the number one contender, and then he'll get a chance to have a championship fight. Casimero is quite new to this division; IIRC, this is only his third fight. So, probably, more fights will come before he gets a shot to challenge the champion.

Nothing to say about it but just to finished the fight with impressive KO to create a noise and bring the attention to him, if he will win the fight with a brutal KO, and with the help of social media to hype his name up, I'm pretty sure that his manager/camp may create an impact to negotiate a much bigger fight for him.

It's just a simple reality that if you start from a scratch, this is what will happen to your career. You need to undergo with all these stepping stone fights to reach the top spot.

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April 27, 2023, 11:09:18 AM
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I wouldn't say it's a stepping stone for Casimero, this is just another fight that he needs to win, simply as that. This Nghitumbwa has nothing to offer in his career, Casimero has face more tougher opponents in the past. Nghitumbwa is not even a former champion, so most likely he was cherry pick by the camp of Casimero so that he will look like a great fighter again.

And with that, John Riel should win this easy, via a brutal knockout. And if that happens, then maybe his Japanese promoter can now chase a good boxer in this division, inching closer to maybe the champion in this division. So he should beat him bad, close him out early to send the message across.

Just a tune-up fight, I guess. It will only be a stepping stone if it's a big fight that would put him in position to be the number one contender, and then he'll get a chance to have a championship fight. Casimero is quite new to this division; IIRC, this is only his third fight. So, probably, more fights will come before he gets a shot to challenge the champion.

Nothing to say about it but just to finished the fight with impressive KO to create a noise and bring the attention to him, if he will win the fight with a brutal KO, and with the help of social media to hype his name up, I'm pretty sure that his manager/camp may create an impact to negotiate a much bigger fight for him.

It's just a simple reality that if you start from a scratch, this is what will happen to your career. You need to undergo with all these stepping stone fights to reach the top spot.

No need to create hype by social media though, Casimero himself is brandish and can promote himself already. And if ever he will win by a brutal KO, for sure the social media is going to capture it. After all, John Riel is a former champion, so he brings his name and talent on the table here. That's why we wanted him to win so badly with a good win so create the impact that he needed in the super bantamweight.

It's gonna be easy for him to call others if he win this fashion. And for sure, any of the champion or high rank fighters are willing to face Casimero in his next fight. So maybe there is no hype in this fight because he is facing a no name fighters, but for sure, there are boxing pundits that is going to watch this fight and see how Casimero is.

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I didn't know that John Riel "Quadro Alas"Casimero has an upcoming fight in the Philippines against Fillipus Nghitumbwa. I searched for information about his opponent, who is from Windhoek, Namibia, with a professional record of 12 wins and 1 loss. I don't think Nghitumbwa will have the chance against Casimero with his past background, but who knows, maybe just a lucky punch will turn around the fight. It's better if Casimero will knock him out just to please the fans.  
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