[Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13)

[Japinat]

these days, you have no problem watching it live if you know where to find free streaming services. and if not, just wait for the free uploads. seems that crypto bookies won't list this fight. not a big fight anyway.
such hotel venue is indeed an expensive one, so not for the masses. well, if the rich are willing to watch they can earn some money here. but casimero's name is waning down already. so he needs to win on this fight, else, his name will go down much deeper.

As always with a non-popular fight, odds are going to be released few days before the fight but rest assured that this will be covered by the bookies.

The tickets for the general admission for this fight is less that a hundred dollar and it's already sold out and last time I've heard that they added some tickets to cater to some fans that are eager to watch this fight. The venue could only accommodate a few hundred of people that's the reason why the general admission ticket is that high, though not too high but to ordinary Filipinos it's quite a lot of money.



^^ latest photo of Casimero I grabbed on his youtube channel and it seems he got no problem anymore making the scale.

Yes, it seems like we're right all along that Casimero shouldn't be having those issues again in this division. Though the difference is not that big at least that gave Casimero some leverage to be in his usual body weight and not so scraggy compared to what he have to endure back at 118 just to settle in with the weight but that didn't last long as it is already clear enough that the weight class is not for him anymore.

About the tickets, yes it's kind of expensive for normal people but talking about the venue where the fight will happen, it is also kind of reasonable enough because it is Okada Manila Hotel & Casino. Anyway, I sure do hope that there will be a live feed on this fight for free.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ Yeah, he shouldn't have any problems making 122 lbs, it could really be his walking weight after all. Although boxers tend to gain more lbs during their off season, but at least Casimero doesn't need to shred more pounds unlike in 118 lbs wherein he really struggle in the last couple of years to make the weight and even lose the belt in the scale.

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

[Botnake]

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

[btc_angela]

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.

[inthelongrun]

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.

Here is the April ranking of the WBO. An impressive win over Nghitumbwa can give Casimero a big chance of fighting for the title next year or even this year is also possible. #1 Inoue is already facing the champion. #2 Aleem and #4 Goodman are already set to face each other in an IBF final eliminator. #3 Nery already won a WBC partial eliminator and is likely to face a final WBC eliminator or he could also become the WBC mandatory right away. This leaves #5 Casimero as the highest-ranked without a commitment to another organization or a scheduled opponent after Filippus.
   


The WBO and WBC belts though are already unified and the WBC might be the first to issue their mandatory next year. There's also the possible 4-belt unification between the winner of Inoue-Fulton and Tapales which may further prolong the chances of Casimero getting his title shot. But maybe if Inoue wins the WBO-WBC belt and WBA-IBF champion Tapales needs to face the Aleem vs Goodman winner next, Casimero might get picked.

[Japinat]

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.

Here is the April ranking of the WBO. An impressive win over Nghitumbwa can give Casimero a big chance of fighting for the title next year or even this year is also possible. #1 Inoue is already facing the champion. #2 Aleem and #4 Goodman are already set to face each other in an IBF final eliminator. #3 Nery already won a WBC partial eliminator and is likely to face a final WBC eliminator or he could also become the WBC mandatory right away. This leaves #5 Casimero as the highest-ranked without a commitment to another organization or a scheduled opponent after Filippus.
   


The WBO and WBC belts though are already unified and the WBC might be the first to issue their mandatory next year. There's also the possible 4-belt unification between the winner of Inoue-Fulton and Tapales which may further prolong the chances of Casimero getting his title shot. But maybe if Inoue wins the WBO-WBC belt and WBA-IBF champion Tapales needs to face the Aleem vs Goodman winner next, Casimero might get picked.

Depends on the hype because we all know that organizers are much more leaning towards a fight who can give them more profits. Now, if Inoue will be successful enough and became the undisputed in this division, he will likely face Casimero first (given that Casimero have defeated his own opponent in the next few days) because I doubt that he will be given a mandatory title defense fight that early when he just got the belts under his possession.

Besides, if Casimero will be successful on his own path, I'm inclined that he may target the interim holders so that his chances to face the champion(s) will increase more. He surely knows that time is not on his side anymore and so it won't be helpful on his situation if he will just wait for any opportunity rather than working towards it.

[Slow death]

strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

[bittraffic]

strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

Though their titles are global, they are unknown fighters whcih could be the reason. Strange still because stake normally list WBO fights.

This could easily be predicted since Casimero is the most experienced and still a WBO champion. A mismatch that we could say he picked this Filip for the number. 

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4

[Pamadar]

^^ Yeah, he shouldn't have any problems making 122 lbs, it could really be his walking weight after all. Although boxers tend to gain more lbs during their off season, but at least Casimero doesn't need to shred more pounds unlike in 118 lbs wherein he really struggle in the last couple of years to make the weight and even lose the belt in the scale.

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

I agree, 122 lbs is no longer an issue for Casimero, unlike with 118 lbs where he struggles and loses his belts.

No longer in focus on how to lose weight, but with how he will execute his fighting strategy to make the
fight interesting for the fans who are waiting for his upcoming fight.

It's really a good venue for him to hype his name, though it's been long predicted that his advantage is
wide and the winning chance is high, but the outcome is still what the fans would like to see. An early K.O
with a very dominating fight as per my take.

[Viscore]

It's really a good venue for him to hype his name, though it's been long predicted that his advantage is
wide and the winning chance is high, but the outcome is still what the fans would like to see. An early K.O
with a very dominating fight as per my take.

I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.

[Jawhead999]

I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.

Even the odds will be out, it's not worth to bet Casimero because he should become a huge favorite like was been mentioned by @mirakal, I don't think there's a big difference either the international bookie and local bookie. But since the moneyline still not yet available, I doubt if we will see other betting option.

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4

It's too low, if Casimero odds is 1.3, the odds for Ngitumbwa should be around 3.00 - 5.00.

[Questat]

I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.

Even the odds will be out, it's not worth to bet Casimero because he should become a huge favorite like was been mentioned by @mirakal, I don't think there's a big difference either the international bookie and local bookie. But since the moneyline still not yet available, I doubt if we will see other betting option.

We don't necessarily need to bet on the moneyline, especially if Casimero is a heavy favorite, as that won't give us much return. Some bookies offer betting on rounds or ranges of every three rounds, and we can try to guess which particular range Casimero will win by KO. I've seen this many times already, and the odds can be really high, so we just need to be good at guessing.

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4

It's too low, if Casimero odds is 1.3, the odds for Ngitumbwa should be around 3.00 - 5.00.

Is it really 1.30? I think that's still high. I was expecting his odds to be around 1.10 at most, or maybe 1.20.

[inthelongrun]

Depends on the hype because we all know that organizers are much more leaning towards a fight who can give them more profits. Now, if Inoue will be successful enough and became the undisputed in this division, he will likely face Casimero first (given that Casimero have defeated his own opponent in the next few days) because I doubt that he will be given a mandatory title defense fight that early when he just got the belts under his possession.

Well, it is not uncommon in boxing that a new champion will be facing a mandatory right away. Before, the IBF is notorious for strictly imposing its mandatories and doesn't even care if the champion is unified or a superstar.

Inoue's main priority, if he beats Fulton, is to become undisputed so it means Tapales. Tapales also said that if he is going to choose his next opponent, it will be Inoue. Hopefully, none of these sanctioning bodies will issue a mandatory right away so can see another undisputed champion. The IBF final eliminator between Aleem and Goodman happens next month so the mandate will be issued late this year or early next year. But I'm expecting the IBF to postpone the mandate if Tapales is facing Inoue for the undisputed belts. 

Besides, if Casimero will be successful on his own path, I'm inclined that he may target the interim holders so that his chances to face the champion(s) will increase more. He surely knows that time is not on his side anymore and so it won't be helpful on his situation if he will just wait for any opportunity rather than working towards it.

The good thing about this division is that there are no current fake and paper champions. The division is free from garbage interims and regular belts. So everything is straightforward here.

[Slow death]

wow the odds are out on stake.com

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel



It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight

[bittraffic]

wow the odds are out on stake.com

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel



It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight

3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.

[Kelvinid]

wow the odds are out on stake.com

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel



It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight

3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.

I love the betting odds, and even though it's only 1.31 for Casimero, I don't mind because it's free money for me. Casimero, a former champion, is fighting an unknown boxer, and the chance of an upset is very slim. Therefore, I'm taking Casimero's money line without any doubt. Let's wait for the full market to be unlocked; at least we already have the money line bets available for now. It's also up on Sportsbet.

[Oasisman]

3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.

Slim chance indeed for Nghitumbwa, I was convinced about the odds after I watched his highlights. It looks like the guy is flat footed, won't move much and is always open. The kind of fighting style he's got will not gonna last 5 rounds in an international stage. If Nghitumbwa will not going to be careful against Casimero, this match will end up in a knockout victory for Casimero.
Most of the boxing analyst would probably have Casimero an easy win.

[bisdak40]

^^ Odds for the fight are out and more options to bet.

For me, if you are a high roller and confident enough that Casimero would win this fight, that ML odds of @1.31 is very attractive, just like Drake (if i'm not wrong) betting 1M usd for Davis and won 375k in return, easy money isn't it?

[Vaculin]

^^ Odds for the fight are out and more options to bet.

For me, if you are a high roller and confident enough that Casimero would win this fight, that ML odds of @1.31 is very attractive, just like Drake (if i'm not wrong) betting 1M usd for Davis and won 375k in return, easy money isn't it?

Did he? Wow, that's a crazy bet again coming from the one and only Drake!

This time he's fortunate enough and won a 375k profit from betting $1M because the last time, his bet for Jake Paul to knockout Tommy Fury did lost and that's worth a staggering $400k.

Anyway, back to the main topic, I can see that Casimero is indeed favored by the bookies and listing him @ 1.31 is decent enough but not for me because that's quite low. Decision @ 5.40 is juicy and I'll throw some few bucks towards him as a sign of support to our very own Filipino boxer.

[Kemarit]

strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

Though their titles are global, they are unknown fighters whcih could be the reason. Strange still because stake normally list WBO fights.

This could easily be predicted since Casimero is the most experienced and still a WBO champion. A mismatch that we could say he picked this Filip for the number. 

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4

Odds are out in sportsbet.io though, and you are just about right, Casimero ML is 1.31 and Nghitumbwa 3.4

And then the over/under round is 7.5, 1.94/1.84.

So everyone or at last majority who saw Casimero as the favorite is correct, he is 1:3 favorite against Nghitumbwa. So the ML bet is not that attractive, but at least in the over/under rounds is a good bet for us. If Casimero will land his signature power punches then I don't think that this fight is going to last long, and if we look at the odds, the under is the favorite. So this could be a value bet, IMHO.