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April 02, 2023, 07:18:39 PM
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I guess this skill based slot machines would be an interesting one and I would love to try it out someday.
I was wondering about how the bonuses are been distributed If just someone claims they have a skill or is there something I'm missing? Because if bonuses are given to players for them just giving claims of being skilled then everyone would want to give such claims so as to be given more bonus  to have .ore edge to win against the house or slot.
I haven't seen the smiled slot machines before and I've been wondering if it will be looking same with the traditional or local or regular ones we know.

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April 02, 2023, 08:06:48 PM
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You'll really see who's read the article and who's not. The fact that the term skill-based is so widely accepted to be about the player's skill and nothing else is such a clickbait for this kind of slot games.

So basically for those who didn't have the time to read the article quoted in the main post, the term skill-based slot game is a massive misnomer, as it doesn't really talk about the player's skill having some effect on the game outcome, rather, the slot will give the player a bonus, called a "skill" that he/she can use in order to amp up the profits he could rake. Keep note, it doesn't increase his chances of winning anything, nor does it help the player in any way whatsoever to secure said profits. The gambling industry is such a deceitful world but I never expected them to stoop this low, literally baiting people into thinking that the player will have some agency over his win.
oh thank you for explaining, even though I read it, I still did not understand it sorry. How's the experience? and how's your winning. It is seems a difficult ones and it requires a lot of time and effort. But if the winning money is kinda big maybe I should try it? it makes it challenging by having that "skill" you are talking about, I'll try it if there's a skill based machine here in us.
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April 02, 2023, 08:38:27 PM
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Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck1 as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to2 display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

It is maybe no surprise that they do not give any actual, real life examples, of a "skill based" slot machine. Every single slot machine out there has been engineered to take money in for the casino and not to let the player win in the long run. This article - from two years ago - uses words like profit, as if it's possible to win in the long term from this type of game, when simple mathematics tells you otherwise. You might get very lucky, out of some freak set of variance or targeted psychological engineering, in the short run - but you will not win long term. At the very least, these machines cost money to run and the company has overheads to pay which require them to take at least a certain amount of your money, never to be returned.

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April 02, 2023, 08:51:19 PM
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Poker based rules to slot machine is one I've seen.   Not sure I'd call it skill based as its still not actual poker, only if you were playing other people also with that same model in a connected way perhaps.  Again I do think thats possible but havent seen it recently, not common so far as I know either.

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April 03, 2023, 05:21:40 AM
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I think that's over now right? I haven't seen this offered anywhere yet. Even if the article states it is still a thing, I still don't find any game like that on my usual online casinos.

It seems to me so complicated for a casino to offer a slot in this genre, it seems to me almost contradictory with the primary purpose of slot games.

Anyway thanks OP, it was a very interesting article, I will try to find more resources on this subject
I don't think it's over but it is more like it isn't very popular or widely used, and it might only be available at some land-based casinos for now. The concept sounds pretty interesting but we can't really make any judgments before we witness it ourselves since it isn't available on online platforms, it's difficult to understand how it actually works.

I've not checked yet but maybe there are videos available about it and its gameplay on YouTube or maybe on social media channels. I will try if I can find some because I'm also curious to know how it really works.

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April 03, 2023, 10:37:58 AM
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skill based slot machines are becoming popular now a days, they offer player a chance to use their skills to win, but luck still plays a big role. some people prefer traditional slots while others like the challenge of skill-based slots. remember to gamble responsibly and only bet what you can afford to lose.

there is no one size fits all answer to whether traditional slots or skill-based slots are better, as it ultimately comes down to personal preference. traditional slots are purely based on chance and offer a simple and straightforward gameplay experience(which i like). skill-based slots, on the other hand, offer an added element of player skill in the bonus round, which can increase the player's chances of winning. and, they also require more focus and attention from the player.(while traditional i can play by my feet also)
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April 03, 2023, 11:16:42 AM
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As far as I can remember while there have been some people over the years which have won a lot of money by playing slots, at the same time not a single one of them did so with skill, basically every single one of them cheated the slot machine in some way or form.

And with this in mind plus the very high house edge which is present on those machines, I will say that slot machines are probably one of my least favorite games I can find at any casino.
I also feel that some people have succeeded in winning the slot game. But the slot games they have won seem luck-based like other slot games. But some people may play in skill-based slot games like @OP said. But it's still difficult to find slot games.

Slot games seem to have become one of my favorite games. I'm still good at controlling myself so nothing bad happens. And if you say slot games are gambling games that you don't like, what do you usually play?

What skills actually?

There's no skills involve when you do really play slots and this is why lots of people do really love on playing it because you could really just simply press the roll button or would pull up the lever
for you to get those numbers rolling or images which would really be neither give out a winning run/roll or not.Lots of people do get interested on this one because it does give out
instant results and having the probability on hitting huge numbers which is something that make things interested for people to play on.Applying
strategy is something that it is really out of concept.
Slot games are the easiest gambling games because they are no special requirements. We just have to write down the number of bets we want and we can choose the smallest bet to start playing and the casino allows that too. And this slot game has succeeded in making many people come back to play it because they are still curious about their final result. Maybe some people use various bet amounts to win a lot of money and think it is a special strategy they use to win.

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April 03, 2023, 12:14:03 PM
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Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck1 as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to2 display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

It is maybe no surprise that they do not give any actual, real life examples, of a "skill based" slot machine. Every single slot machine out there has been engineered to take money in for the casino and not to let the player win in the long run. This article - from two years ago - uses words like profit, as if it's possible to win in the long term from this type of game, when simple mathematics tells you otherwise. You might get very lucky, out of some freak set of variance or targeted psychological engineering, in the short run - but you will not win long term. At the very least, these machines cost money to run and the company has overheads to pay which require them to take at least a certain amount of your money, never to be returned.
Because the slot machines are created in favor of the owners, not the gamblers. I was thinking if that really exists, how this casino will even survive? No, those things are baseless and out of reality. Slot machine games are known to be pure luck-based games - I couldn't really imagine someone having the skill to defeat the slot machines. Because even if you spend many years playing them, you can't figure it out how it works other than having a huge chance to lose rather than winning.



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April 03, 2023, 03:18:40 PM
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Poker based rules to slot machine is one I've seen.   Not sure I'd call it skill based as its still not actual poker, only if you were playing other people also with that same model in a connected way perhaps.  Again I do think thats possible but havent seen it recently, not common so far as I know either.
That's effin cool. It was like you are playin two games at one. It does saves money and we also have the chance to double, triple, and so on.. our money easily because skills does matter in here. Anyone can be really good at any skill based game as long as they will dedicate enough time to learn and study how to take more advantage of the game. Each of us has sometimes has our own definition of skill games.

There are even some who treat a casino games like dice a skill game only because they can formulate a strategy with it but for me I don't consider it as one. As for you, you only consider a game a skill game if it's played by a player versus another player and not by a computer.

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April 03, 2023, 04:14:18 PM
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This is the first time that I read about the skill based slot machines, and I think that this is not good news for me: as a not highly skillful person, I could still stick to luck if I ever was to play slot machines. If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.

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April 03, 2023, 11:06:07 PM
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Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?
 
Are you talking about offline or online skill based slots, if so which casino is providing them. Without playing the game, it is hard to share the opinion as i have no idea about the skill based slots other than the free rolls how come you will be able to apply your skills.

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If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.
Fair point, it is hard to defeat a machine if it is a skill based game  Cheesy.
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April 03, 2023, 11:37:38 PM
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This is the first time that I read about the skill based slot machines, and I think that this is not good news for me: as a not highly skillful person, I could still stick to luck if I ever was to play slot machines. If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.
Indeed, the nature of Man, one man's food, another man's poison  Grin.
I stopped playing slot games mostly because it is based on luck, I decide to throw my weight to sports betting which allows, not skill per say, but knowledge of sports and other  stuff, apply my knowledge has made be to stand a better chance at winning games compared to when I relied solely on luck.

If there be a luck and skill based slot machines, like I've said before, I would play only skill based slot machine, I have no business with luck as I believe in my skills far more than I believe in luck.

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April 03, 2023, 11:54:56 PM
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Regardless if traditional slots can be applied with skills, nothing will change the fact that it's all about luck.

For me, I just go with the flow and if there's a chance that I can play slots at physical casinos, I would love it.

Currently, I'm hook-playing with online slots so that's what I prefer for now.

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April 03, 2023, 11:57:11 PM
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I just think of it. Maybe they found traditional slots can be apply with skills is because those big winners able to hit big winnings from what they think they applied skills but on reality, they just hit lucky that time. I mean, how can we apply skills at these luck-based games?

The skills that can be applied here is, managing our bankroll to last for long term playing.
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April 05, 2023, 04:41:11 PM
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This is the first time that I read about the skill based slot machines, and I think that this is not good news for me: as a not highly skillful person, I could still stick to luck if I ever was to play slot machines. If now skill is required, then my options to win any prizes will be reduced even more. And, as other people said, I don't think that the the owners of the machines will make it easier to win by implementing this.
You are probably misunderstanding the whole concept here, the implementation of a skill-based bonus round doesn't mean that the luck factor is removed, there cannot be a game of gambling that can be won without luck, no matter how much changes, developments, and implementations are made for it, it will still be a game of luck at the end of the day.

Your winnings will still be dependent on luck even in a skill-based slots machine, the only difference will be is that you will be given a bonus round where you can maximize your winnings by playing a skill-based game since we don't have any more information about it so far, that's all you should know for now.

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April 05, 2023, 07:25:46 PM
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Because the slot machines are created in favor of the owners, not the gamblers. I was thinking if that really exists, how this casino will even survive? No, those things are baseless and out of reality. Slot machine games are known to be pure luck-based games - I couldn't really imagine someone having the skill to defeat the slot machines. Because even if you spend many years playing them, you can't figure it out how it works other than having a huge chance to lose rather than winning.

It seems what you say is a little biased. yes, I don't understand what you mean by saying "Because the slot machines are created in favor of the owners".
however, if we talk about skill-based slot machines. it seems, we would very much doubt it. because, referring to some of the references that I read. slot machine games are strictly based on pure luck, even though they involve RNG and RTP.  but in truth, it is hard to tell the difference between a game that is skill-based and a slot game that is purely luck-based.

And if, i referred to the link the first OP shared. As the article mentioned, skill-based slot machines are a new breed that are replacing the older semi-slot scenarios. however, it seems that basically the game types are the same.  to be honest, I'm quite clueless about skill-based slot machines. even, if this actually existed.  I'm interested to try it.

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April 05, 2023, 09:52:53 PM
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Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck1 as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to2 display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

1. http://bostonsportsextra.com/skill-based-slot-machines-what-are-they-and-how-they-work/
2. http://web.archive.org/slot1.sbs/76959.html


Slots will always be slots.  There a many twists to it but in the end its all luck based winning.  If skill is your thing than you need to pivot over to something like poker in which the players have a hand in if they win or lose.  I've never been a huge slot player but they are fun from time to time like lottery is or scratch off cards, etc.  Never know maybe you hit the big one.  But if I'm playing slots give me easy lol.

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April 05, 2023, 10:34:46 PM
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I read the article, and I don't really understand anything more about Skill-based slot machines.  The article really just talked about that fact that there are skill based slot machines and that they give you a chance of earning more money by adding a bonus feature which will allow you the opportunity to utilize some sort of knowledge/skill to make more money.  However it didn't talk at all about how this works..so I dont get it.  I'll have to read through some of the comments.

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April 07, 2023, 05:17:14 AM
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You are probably misunderstanding the whole concept here, the implementation of a skill-based bonus round doesn't mean that the luck factor is removed, there cannot be a game of gambling that can be won without luck, no matter how much changes, developments, and implementations are made for it, it will still be a game of luck at the end of the day.

Your winnings will still be dependent on luck even in a skill-based slots machine, the only difference will be is that you will be given a bonus round where you can maximize your winnings by playing a skill-based game since we don't have any more information about it so far, that's all you should know for now.
Besides even if the element of luck was removed then we need to wonder if the game is still considered a gambling game at all? If I am not mistaken chess or at least one of the variants of chaturanga called chaturaji was played with dice, making it a gambling game, but once you remove this element then it would become a game of skill.

So even if slots add an element of skill for the player, at the end the most important factor when it comes to winning is still their luck, as it is unlikely any casino will implement a slot machine with a bonus which will make them to lose any money.

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April 07, 2023, 05:33:23 AM
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I still don't understand how can a bonus round is classified as skill based? I think it's still purely on luck, but you're getting more chance to win because you spend more money until you get the bonus round. Is there any casino which have bonus round? I never experienced that, what I know is free spin and bonus buy feature. A slot which have bonus round is still luck based for me.

In slot games actually theres no skill base its just norms of the people having the proper way of making the pull of a lever, timing of the push, and the number of taps those are just the beliefs of the gamblers in terms of playing slot games, its all about the odds of the chance of winning, if you win the game they will tell you that you are a skilled but actuall you just hit the odds to get win. In traditional slots you can make a lever adjust depends on your pull in new slot games theres only a button and makes a turn rate of it like the players does not have a fully control on the movement or timing.

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