Is some certain lifestyle a waste of money and time ?

[uneng]

This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time?

It depends on what stage of the life they are. If they already have a career, their own houses, consolidated family, solid income I think it's not a waste, because they have struggled building every steps upside to be where they are now, so they deserve to enjoy life the best they can. If they think to drink and eat out are decent rewards for what they have achieved so far, let them do this without guilt.

Everyone needs some relief from times to times, and such lifestyles are the answer for many to not fall in boredom and sadness. We can't judge them for this kind of behavior.

[Jody.Drummer]

I am a person who does not choose friends, be it friends in a good environment or friends who have a "bad" environment and habits. But I don't get carried away with that environment which means we have to have our own principles in living life.
When our friends know what is the principle of our life then they will also understand why we rarely get together to spend money or something, as long as we also respect them and not try to offend them.
I also sometimes get together but my intensity is not like your friends, who spend 4 days a week, of course it will drain money. Just imagine that in a month there are 16 meetings and how much it costs. I don't think such a lifestyle is worth it for me, because as you said it's a waste of time and money. There will be plenty for me to do in the time they spend together.

[Ndabagi01]

Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

I don’t have friends or ally that drinks but I know how bad it is when someone is addicted to it. To me, your friends will see it as a fun time to whine and dine together, but considering the amount of money they spend on this drinks in correlation to the average salary people earn in that city is  just going to cripple them one day and they’ll regret the consequence of their actions now. To me, maybe it's because I don't drink or condone it, but this is a complete waste of money, time, and value.

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Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

Yes your friends lifestyle is a waste of money and time and also pose a risk to health. I never prefer this kind of lifestyle, and this kind of lifestyle can never bring success in life. I applaud you for not drinking and with that I want you to leave their company before it gets worse. Yes entertainment is necessary in life but when entertainment becomes an addiction it leads to bad results. Yes I also go to weekly friend gatherings every weekend and spend one to two percent of my monthly income there.

[tygeade]

This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time?

It depends on what stage of the life they are. If they already have a career, their own houses, consolidated family, solid income I think it's not a waste, because they have struggled building every steps upside to be where they are now, so they deserve to enjoy life the best they can. If they think to drink and eat out are decent rewards for what they have achieved so far, let them do this without guilt.

Everyone needs some relief from times to times, and such lifestyles are the answer for many to not fall in boredom and sadness. We can't judge them for this kind of behavior.

I think it depends on what you want out of life as well. Like I know a friend who has millions of dollars, and the only thing he likes to do is read novels. And my god those are some horrible novels as well, no idea why he does that, not like he read Russian classics or the most read books of all time, some of them sure but not all, and yet he reads some horrible lesser known fantasy novels.

Imagine being so rich that you could live without working until you die, and then your child and your grandchild could live without working, and yet the only thing you ever want to do in your life is reading novels, that's it. He will never be out of money ever, but he won't live a rich life neither, yet he will live the life he wants to live.

[deathcode]

Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

We all know that our lifestyle and living habits will definitely affect our finances.
I think a lifestyle like that of your friends is definitely a negative thing and a waste of money. Even worse, they actually waste their health. I don't know, but I think drinking alcohol regularly every week will definitely damage the health of their internal organs.
For the agenda of meeting fellow friends and hanging out with other people, I can still understand it even though we sometimes spend a lot of our money because I think it's important and it's our social need to socialize but don't have to do it by drinking alcohol every week.
I don't know how rich your friends are to make drinking alcohol a regular agenda but I see it is their reason more to have fun with fellow alcoholics.
But I salute to you because you are still friends with them but don't follow those bad habits. I hope you are not someone who is just taken advantage of by them to buy alcohol when their money runs out.

[Unbunplease]

Everyone has a different lifestyle, and everyone has the right to spend their time as they please (of course, it is advisable to avoid habits that are harmful to health). What is a waste of money is a philosophical question. Life is a temporary phenomenon, and living only to save money, which we will definitely not need in another world, where energy is money, is also wrong. A slave to money is a bad choice.

[fuer44]

If the minimum wage per month is still below $300, think clearly and don't do such stupid things. Still not married I wouldn't do something silly like that,  let alone already have a family. They call it's fun? is it fun to drink? Why not train yourself to develop or at least do a hobby? But when the salary is over $1000 per month, I think it's okay to drink for pleasure once a week.

[Gallar]

Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

such habits are already included in habits of waste, and such habits must be avoided if a bright future is to be seen.
because if you get together and eat up to 4x a week and one meal can spend up to 1/5 of their monthly salary, of course over time their money will run out quickly, and if your friends are still continuing their habit, they are most likely borrowing money, or you do not know that your friends have a side business that earns quite a lot. what I want to know is how much your friend's salary is in a month?

I alone in a month eat and gather with my friends at least once, because I am busy working and already have a family so I also prioritize my family rather than hanging out with my friends. and the costs spent on eating and hanging out with my friends, are not big, because I don't drink alcohol either, but I'm just a smoker.
and the costs spent are at most 30,000 in the currency of my country Indonesia.

[wxa7115]

Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

Either your friends are getting heavily in debt just to maintain this habit or they earn more than the average monthly income of the city where you live.

Look, at the end each person decides what to do with their money, just as they cannot force you to spend your money on something you do not want, you cannot force them either, personally I will never engage on the behavior of your friends as I think it is too wasteful, but if that is the way they want to spend their spare money there is nothing which can stop them from doing so.

[Wexnident]

That depends on a personal subjective opinion though. I'd judge it as 100 a waste yes, since one, I myself don't drink and two, there's probably a bunch of other ways friends can hangout, especially without them having to spend so much. And that's coming from me who has no relationships (aka wife and kids) to worry about (Except for my mother and sis).

I'd say those who have much more to shoulder would say that it's a waste as well, but I wouldn't put it past me for someone to come along and say it's fine if they don't have any problems living and supporting their families
It might be a problem when you look ahead into the future though.

[xSkylarx]

If the minimum wage per month is still below $300, think clearly and don't do such stupid things. Still not married I wouldn't do something silly like that,  let alone already have a family. They call it's fun? is it fun to drink? Why not train yourself to develop or at least do a hobby? But when the salary is over $1000 per month, I think it's okay to drink for pleasure once a week.

It is okay to drink once a month as long as you just spend a few dollars on it because it is good for your health, but that doesn't mean that you will spend so much and also do it on a weekly basis. Before, when my salary was $300, I still drank for fun, and there's nothing wrong with that, but only once a month, and sometimes nothing because I was short. As long as you ain't spending so much, then it's okay, but if it will affect your family, then it is not good.

[DoverDoane]

Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

That's big enough for one event to spend 1/5 of your monthly income, but are your friends well-off, if so, it's still reasonable to spend that much money for one event because it's proportional to their income or economy, people who have money, but the problem is when income is mediocrity and can only be enough for the necessities of life and then following a lifestyle like that, that's really bad, friend, your finances can be bad and I think that lifestyle is hard to change because it's a habit. Yes, the best way is maybe you can avoid getting too involved in events like that without offending them, I think you understand about that.

[davis196]

Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

Your friends must be either very rich(and hiding their wealth) or in big debt.
I guess that they have expensive dinners, because they can afford it. Personally, I don't go on restaurants because it seems like a waste of money (and I'm not a very social person). There's a thing called "lifestyle inflation". When your social status goes up, you start buying luxurious and expensive stuff, in order to show off and prove that you have money. This is nonsense, if you ask me, but that's human nature.
If you can't afford such expensive dinners, just don't pay the bill. Your friends probably have enough money to pay the bills.

[Argoo]

We did not come into this world to enjoy this life. Therefore, this way of life is, of course, unacceptable. We are here to improve spiritually. Each of us has certain tasks and trials that we must go through in life in order to move on. Nature is not so wasteful as to allow us to waste life aimlessly and at our own pleasure. If a person leads a wild life, this usually does not last long. Events occur that either change his habit or throw him out of life.

[BenCodie]

As inflation becomes more rampant around the world, the lifestyle that I believe is quite standard among the majority (work during the week, spend on the weekend) will either become a lifestyle where growth and personal monetary progress does not exist, or will have to modified and sacrificed either for an additional day of work on the weekend or reduction of spending. Once upon a time, it was possible to live like this and still progress monetarily. I do not believe that it's possible for the average person to do this as freely or without budgeting strictly anymore.

[kaseygriffin]

We all have social relationships in life, so looking at living expenses for this when people can't afford it, it will obviously upset the balance in life. I can be willing to pay the money after the fun with friends and I'm comfortable with that, although not too rich, I find that the OP's wasteful view and mine are not the same, because Life is not about hoarding wealth for anyone, know how to share within your ability.

[Marcellin9]

Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ?

Based on your limited information, and since you are also invited, it means that the drinking/socializing isn't for productive activity, but for fun only. In this case, yes it's a waste of money. However, drinking/socializing can generate income if its purpose is work-related entertainment. I mean, when you are in business dealing with clients that can make you more money than you spend. Or to keep a good relationship with partners.

How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

As I said it depends on the purpose of the gatherings. If it's just for fun with "useless but I love" friends, then no more than 5% per month for them.
If it's for business then depends on the proposal value. Maybe 10%-20% including kickbacks.

All the gatherings are just for fun, nothing serious. They talk the same topics over and over again. Just take these drinking/socializing as entertainment, they are overdoing it.

This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time?

It depends on what stage of the life they are. If they already have a career, their own houses, consolidated family, solid income I think it's not a waste, because they have struggled building every steps upside to be where they are now, so they deserve to enjoy life the best they can. If they think to drink and eat out are decent rewards for what they have achieved so far, let them do this without guilt.

Everyone needs some relief from times to times, and such lifestyles are the answer for many to not fall in boredom and sadness. We can't judge them for this kind of behavior.

What you said is exactly what my friends explained to me. They can not stop this kind of gatherings because they will be bored and sad without the "leisure" time. They all have settled in terms of career, houses, family and  solid income. Nothing to worry about particularly.

Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

such habits are already included in habits of waste, and such habits must be avoided if a bright future is to be seen.
because if you get together and eat up to 4x a week and one meal can spend up to 1/5 of their monthly salary, of course over time their money will run out quickly, and if your friends are still continuing their habit, they are most likely borrowing money, or you do not know that your friends have a side business that earns quite a lot. what I want to know is how much your friend's salary is in a month?

Their salary is pretty big compared to the local average income so money is not an issue here. What I wanted to discuss is this lifestyle itself. None of us has any financial problems.

I alone in a month eat and gather with my friends at least once, because I am busy working and already have a family so I also prioritize my family rather than hanging out with my friends. and the costs spent on eating and hanging out with my friends, are not big, because I don't drink alcohol either, but I'm just a smoker.
and the costs spent are at most 30,000 in the currency of my country Indonesia.

Good for you not to spend much money on these stuff too. I just don't like to spend my money this way, not because I can not afford that.

Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.

Your friends must be either very rich(and hiding their wealth) or in big debt.
I guess that they have expensive dinners, because they can afford it. Personally, I don't go on restaurants because it seems like a waste of money (and I'm not a very social person). There's a thing called "lifestyle inflation". When your social status goes up, you start buying luxurious and expensive stuff, in order to show off and prove that you have money. This is nonsense, if you ask me, but that's human nature.
If you can't afford such expensive dinners, just don't pay the bill. Your friends probably have enough money to pay the bills.

We are all living comfortably so money is not a problem here. I'd rather say my friends are too bored and need to be drunk to feel great. I can surely afford the bills but just don't like to throw money like this. I expect meaning conversation with friends which they can not provide.

We all have social relationships in life, so looking at living expenses for this when people can't afford it, it will obviously upset the balance in life. I can be willing to pay the money after the fun with friends and I'm comfortable with that, although not too rich, I find that the OP's wasteful view and mine are not the same, because Life is not about hoarding wealth for anyone, know how to share within your ability.

I just don't like to spend money on stuff like drinking/meaningless meals. If it is for playing pool game or going on vacation, I'd like to spend, even to cover my friend's expenses. I just feel not productive when hanging out with friends addicted to alchohol.

[Alphakilo]

Such lifestyle is a big waste of money. If i should guess, your friends are already in debt and they seem to be addicted to such life style which will inturn ruin their future.

Dont get me wrong, drinking is not a bad thing but spending 1/5 of their salary in just a night is not a congratulatory behavior.
It is a total waste of money because they spend too much on alchohol and also a waste of time.

[Bitcoin2009]

If we have a large income, of course it doesn't matter and it's normal if we have a luxurious lifestyle, I have friends who can live a luxurious lifestyle because of their large income, but if we only rely on a monthly salary and only enough for living needs then it's better to avoid this lifestyle and more good focus on investment.