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March 29, 2023, 12:18:50 PM
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But old casinos are starting to implement a KYC in their platform so for sure in future they can't avoid to submit this if they still want to play. Those non KYC compliant casino is hard to trust since to many scams are always happening so its hard to trust them if they will not follow or comply to what government ask if government want to regulate them.
however the government will continue to oversee this business. casino is a profitable business for several parties. especially for the government which of course implements large taxes for casino operating permits.
after all, it is true that more gamblers will play at casinos that have been legalized or have permission from the government. it's better, but still there will be online casino platforms quietly operating their platforms. it's only a matter of time how the casinos will finally be caught by the eyes of the government.

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March 29, 2023, 01:49:47 PM
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Yes, it's possible.
You know that the government will just intervene when the company is quite big already. They'll do all the means to track the owners down and make the business at risk by applying such laws that haven't been seen by the developers.
If the law states that they can't do it then that's questionable because they didn't enforce it when it was just launched. But it's because the company was too small to be considered and apply the law on them. That's mostly the status of many startups and even new casinos, it's like a test and dry run for them. If it's a success, they'll be recognized and too big not to be noticed.
Decentralized gambling might not be profitable because it will attract fewer customers. This is because people might not trust these gambling platforms, because they don't have a license to operate in a particular country. Gamblers will always want to deal with casinos that are registered in a jurisdiction in case of litigations.  CBDCs are centralized and controlled by the central banks of these nations and if the government mandates these casinos to use them, they don't have any option but to use It. The truth is that people will always prefer cryptocurrencies to using CBDCs.
That's for real, most consumers, customers, and gamblers prefer the centralized one. It's hard to gain traction with the decentralized type of gambling of how flawed the system is for those that have tried it first. And another thing is that we're just used to the common centralized type of gambling. Another factor is about the news that have been made all about these decentralized things like exchanges and even in gambling, so that impression is hard to be removed from those that have heard a lot of how not friendly they were.

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March 29, 2023, 01:50:39 PM
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Of course, it is possible to launch such a casino.But even the players themselves will have many questions,because there will be a minimum of guarantees that your funds will be safe,since there is no legal field in which this casino will operate.And in order to have good licensed games, the casino already needs to be more public company and regulated by law.

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March 29, 2023, 02:55:14 PM
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Many of us are used to playing on centralized gambling sites with the ability to ask support questions, deposit and withdraw funds in multiple cryptocurrencies and fiat currencies. Most of us still trust the reputation of the casino rather than the smart contracts on which all casino activity would take place. It seems to me that in the future all casinos will be decentralized. It's just easier now to get a license and attract users to traditional gambling than to decentralized gambling sites. 

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March 29, 2023, 04:24:01 PM
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Is it possible to run a decentralized gambling platform? I know that all popular gambling platforms have no choice but to be transparent to the law to have a steady business running, but with the introduction of CBDC and yes a registered gambling platform has no choice but to accept CBDC too, and I don't trust this centralized currency, I believe CBDC will have the capability to monitor incoming and outgoing funds, so that is what makes me think if it's possible to run a decentralized gambling platform at all.

Running a gambling business without (law) interference from the government seems difficult because every country that legalizes gambling has laws that must be obeyed by the owner of the gambling business.

However, every gambling user has full rights to use the deposit via what (crypto or fiat currency) so even though in the future the majority of gambling sites have the option of depositing or withdrawing via CBDC, of course, it will not be forced by the government and gambling owners to use, because consumers also have the right to vote and that cannot be ignored.

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March 29, 2023, 04:53:49 PM
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But old casinos are starting to implement a KYC in their platform so for sure in future they can't avoid to submit this if they still want to play. Those non KYC compliant casino is hard to trust since to many scams are always happening so its hard to trust them if they will not follow or comply to what government ask if government want to regulate them.
however the government will continue to oversee this business. casino is a profitable business for several parties. especially for the government which of course implements large taxes for casino operating permits.
after all, it is true that more gamblers will play at casinos that have been legalized or have permission from the government. it's better, but still there will be online casino platforms quietly operating their platforms. it's only a matter of time how the casinos will finally be caught by the eyes of the government.
Those who are restricted countries no one can get the permission of conducting gambling platform in that particular area.If any casino is established then there is a severe disciplinary system. However, where the casino business is operated, the government will definitely try to look at their revenue and profit. However, if some one can conduct gambling without their permission they can do it temporarily but in the long run they will be faced various complications.

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March 29, 2023, 05:56:26 PM
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Illegal gambling dens exists for a reason. That's because there could be you silly!

Although in all seriousness. There have been a few sites and physical casinos that was able to operate for a long while until the authorities find out about their illegal operations and apprehended them. POGOs are the most common offenders in these categories as they could go under the police's radar for years on end before verifiable evidence could be collected.

There's also the case of roadside gambling, where a couple of blokes who can't find anything to do with their spare time wasting it away on some friendly gambling, until the number of backseat viewers and active gamblers increase, until a certain point has reached where the whole operation becomes grandiose and more accommodating.

But yeah, eventually the government will catch up.

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March 29, 2023, 09:22:42 PM
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Is it possible to run a decentralized gambling platform? I know that all popular gambling platforms have no choice but to be transparent to the law to have a steady business running, but with the introduction of CBDC and yes a registered gambling platform has no choice but to accept CBDC too, and I don't trust this centralized currency, I believe CBDC will have the capability to monitor incoming and outgoing funds, so that is what makes me think if it's possible to run a decentralized gambling platform at all.

You should ask yourself one question. If you were an owner of a gambling business, would you want to create a decentralized gambling platform?
What would be the cost? Will it bring higher profits? I think that a decentralized gambling platform would be less profitable than a centralized online casino, that's why decentralized gambling isn't popular. The online casino owners simply don't want to bother with decentralization. They are pretty much OK with running centralized platforms.
Can a gambling business run unregulated? Or course it can, but it will have way less customers and sooner or later the authorities are doing to find out and penalize that business.
I don't know about the CBDC's future impact over the gambling industry. Let's wait and see what happens after CBDCs get implemented.
Well, it’s still possible to run a decentralized gambling platform but the problem is if it will be sustainable in the long run. Operators might be profiting at first only but later on, gamblers will start looking centralized casinos like what we mostly have today in the market, which means that could be a loss for decentralized casinos. The reason why most of the casinos today still prefer to be centralized than decentralized, because accept it or not, gamblers want to gamble more safely and secured, which I think decentralized casinos have less to offer when it comes to that.

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March 29, 2023, 09:25:17 PM
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Is it possible to run a decentralized gambling platform? I know that all popular gambling platforms have no choice but to be transparent to the law to have a steady business running, but with the introduction of CBDC and yes a registered gambling platform has no choice but to accept CBDC too, and I don't trust this centralized currency, I believe CBDC will have the capability to monitor incoming and outgoing funds, so that is what makes me think if it's possible to run a decentralized gambling platform at all.

You should ask yourself one question. If you were an owner of a gambling business, would you want to create a decentralized gambling platform?
What would be the cost? Will it bring higher profits? I think that a decentralized gambling platform would be less profitable than a centralized online casino, that's why decentralized gambling isn't popular. The online casino owners simply don't want to bother with decentralization. They are pretty much OK with running centralized platforms.
Can a gambling business run unregulated? Or course it can, but it will have way less customers and sooner or later the authorities are doing to find out and penalize that business.
I don't know about the CBDC's future impact over the gambling industry. Let's wait and see what happens after CBDCs get implemented.
Well, it’s still possible to run a decentralized gambling platform but the problem is if it will be sustainable in the long run. Operators might be profiting at first only but later on, gamblers will start looking centralized casinos like what we mostly have today in the market, which means that could be a loss for decentralized casinos. The reason why most of the casinos today still prefer to be centralized than decentralized, because accept it or not, gamblers want to gamble more safely and secured, which I think decentralized casinos have less to offer when it comes to that.

Decentralized casinos means they don't have to ask KYC from their customers.
However, up until now, most gamblers prefer the centralized casinos with gambling license.
I believe, it is due to the fact that a lot of casinos can scam their players, and people are tired of it.
The dilemma also comes from the thought that when you connect your wallet to decentralized casino, you don't know if your wallet is safe or not.
Some issues stemmed from the fact that some players are losing money because of them, hence, people are advising not to use their main wallet when connecting to these decentralized casinos.
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Well, it’s still possible to run a decentralized gambling platform but the problem is if it will be sustainable in the long run. Operators might be profiting at first only but later on, gamblers will start looking centralized casinos like what we mostly have today in the market, which means that could be a loss for decentralized casinos. The reason why most of the casinos today still prefer to be centralized than decentralized, because accept it or not, gamblers want to gamble more safely and secured, which I think decentralized casinos have less to offer when it comes to that.
The difference between the centralized gambling platform and the decentralised one is the support provided. Another thing is the different operators having different games. In the past there were decentralised platforms and they don't have much of casino games, what we can see in common is Dice. Apart, the platforms will be much focused on sports betting. So that it is possible to lower the risks as well as can function without flaws.

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March 29, 2023, 09:42:01 PM
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Governments can't monitor all of those casinos.

And that's what those developers are trying to take advantage and they'll just comply to the government of their jurisdiction if they've been caught and called.

But as long as they're like wild and free for their operations, they'll just do nothing so it's very plausible that a casino can run onto their jurisdiction without being noticed.
When we say government I think we need to specify the particular government we meant because there are some countries that do not have the time to monitor casinos or other private companies especially online. A casino need to be registered in a particular country for it to be known and accepted. Not all countries monitor online activities and it will be hard for them to track all transactions from a casino. Although government are trying much harder these time to check mate many of the online transactions to safe whether they are failing in there tax payment.
The actual government itself or any specific bureau or agency that's focused in dealing with casino operations. And even if there's one, it's likely that they can't monitor all of it.

If they do, then there won't be new casinos being launched in every part fo the world that's not registered. They can even manage to be published publicly, have some customers while having no license at all.

And that's why for most of them, they're going easy on them until they're forced to look at them.

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March 29, 2023, 09:47:19 PM
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Governments can't monitor all of those casinos.

And that's what those developers are trying to take advantage and they'll just comply to the government of their jurisdiction if they've been caught and called.

But as long as they're like wild and free for their operations, they'll just do nothing so it's very plausible that a casino can run onto their jurisdiction without being noticed.
When we say government I think we need to specify the particular government we meant because there are some countries that do not have the time to monitor casinos or other private companies especially online. A casino need to be registered in a particular country for it to be known and accepted. Not all countries monitor online activities and it will be hard for them to track all transactions from a casino. Although government are trying much harder these time to check mate many of the online transactions to safe whether they are failing in there tax payment.
The actual government itself or any specific bureau or agency that's focused in dealing with casino operations. And even if there's one, it's likely that they can't monitor all of it.

If they do, then there won't be new casinos being launched in every part fo the world that's not registered. They can even manage to be published publicly, have some customers while having no license at all.

And that's why for most of them, they're going easy on them until they're forced to look at them.
This is why government does have their different field of function and appointing someone who would really be handling out speaking about businesses and taxations which is something that it is impossible for it to be
lacking or something that would be missed up.This is why if ever a certain business owner would tend to hide into the shadows on governments presense or eyesight then it would be considered illegal no matter what.
Yes, they could still make out operations but do expect about the risks on which on the time you do get caught then you arent that dumb on not to know on what are the violations
and consequences in line with it.

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