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April 12, 2023, 11:47:38 PM
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Many online reviews can be faked and have been paid to review the casino that has paid them to do so and leave them with a good one.

Yes, they have marketing budget that includes sponsorship and advertisements and that is how they can afford to get big marketers and advertisers to give them shot of exposure.
I guess the only way to detect if it’s safe or not is through experience, but make sure you only deposit a small amount so that if you get scam, that won’t be an issue. Reviews are no longer reliable anymore. And the reason why online casinos afford all the marketing ads and promotions because they make sure to prepare enough funds for it before venturing into that kind of business. Just like any business, capital is very important, if you don’t have sufficient amount for capital, most likely your business will not grow and become profitable.
It is a strategy that I also do, just deposit an amount like a couple of bucks so whenever something goes wrong and the casino isn't made actually to be gambled on, that's not gonna hurt our finances.

If it's from those reputable members that has been doing reviews honestly, you'll have no doubt with their capacity and their honesty. That's why they've been reputable for giving such honest opinions about casinos that they review.

And if a casino offers them to get reviewed, they'll not be limited to say only good things that they see but also the bad attributes that they have.

Actually members are famous not because they give honest reviews but because they have quite a lot of experience and insight in the gambling industry and they know what to do when they are in a casino, moreover they also have the ability to bet well where to win lots of big wins.
Reviews are just a story of friends' experiences, so giving honest reviews is not a reason for them to be known and respected by other gamblers.
Everyone returns to the casino itself, if they want progress, they will definitely do anything and give anything so that the desired progress can be achieved, so hiring experienced gamblers to promote their casino is an easy thing to do.
And that's why they've became so reputable as they've known in the community and they give honest feedbacks and reviews that even if someone argues with them, they can justify the authenticity of the review that they've given.

That's how the experience thought them a lot and I guess we have different understanding about this but regardless of that, we still agree in the same thought about these people about being honest and experienced.

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April 13, 2023, 01:01:29 AM
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I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers? Where does their earning comes from? How will you get scammed when you try online casino? How can you tell that online casino is safe?
when you place a bet on a casino's platform and it turns out on the losing side, where does the funds goes??
I thought as much...

If the where no profit in the casino business, they'll be little or no casino out there.
you are talking about casino that already existing and operating better, but what about those new sites that OP is pointing? do you understand that there are no same structure of each site?
those operating specially scam site like you advertise mostly has big amount to run their advertising.
but if they are legit but still new then they will have to spend from their own pocket.

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April 13, 2023, 06:09:35 AM
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It is a strategy that I also do, just deposit an amount like a couple of bucks so whenever something goes wrong and the casino isn't made actually to be gambled on, that's not gonna hurt our finances.
If to try a new casino, this method or strategy is often done by most gamblers so they are not too disappointed if the casino is a scam.
But when playing at a casino that is relied on and trusted, we will definitely make a deposit where we can, with quite a large amount, of course to be able to play and get lucky with a number of wins.
So far I have always made a deposit of no more than $5 when using a new casino and playing at the new casino just to get the promotion bonus there is.
After all, in each ANN thread, there is definitely a lot of feedback that will be given so that it will give us an understanding of whether the casino has a cheating case or not.

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And that's why they've became so reputable as they've known in the community and they give honest feedbacks and reviews that even if someone argues with them, they can justify the authenticity of the review that they've given.

That's how the experience thought them a lot and I guess we have different understanding about this but regardless of that, we still agree in the same thought about these people about being honest and experienced.
Yes, it's true that lots of positive reviews or feedback from gamblers can create a good reputation for casinos.
If in this forum it is clear that the feedback will be seen whether it is real or just fake because on average fake feedback is given by new shil accounts.
But still we have to do research to prove everything is true or not.

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April 13, 2023, 06:13:41 AM
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I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers? Where does their earning comes from? How will you get scammed when you try online casino? How can you tell that online casino is safe?
when you place a bet on a casino's platform and it turns out on the losing side, where does the funds goes??
I thought as much...

If the where no profit in the casino business, they'll be little or no casino out there.

Well, when you lose a gambling game all the money goes to the gambling site and in case you win the gambling houses give you the winning amount. The point to note is that gambling games are not peer to peer games, hence any money lost is a direct profit for the gambling site.
So in order for anyone to run a casino, they need initial funds to pay out the winners but as the casino grows more and more people will lose money and then there won't be a problem for the gambling casino to pay to the winners as they would be collecting huge amounts from people who lose in gambling.

Freebitco.in is a peer2peer casino and it is the only crypto casino that has this feature. When you make a bet on freebitco.in, you are actually betting against the other players on the website. It is called "Parimutuel betting".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parimutuel_betting

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Parimutuel betting or pool betting is a betting system in which all bets of a particular type are placed together in a pool; taxes and the "house-take" or "vigorish" are deducted, and payoff odds are calculated by sharing the pool among all winning bets. In some countries it is known as the tote after the totalisator, which calculates and displays bets already made. In short, the word parimutuel implies tiered winnings/earnings.

So when you win a game on freebitco.in, you are  taking the other players' money. The casino never loses any money because they take their cut either way. If you lose or win, it doesn't matter to the casino at all.

I think more casinos should follow this same business model.

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April 13, 2023, 10:19:25 AM
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I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers? Where does their earning comes from? How will you get scammed when you try online casino? How can you tell that online casino is safe?
when you place a bet on a casino's platform and it turns out on the losing side, where does the funds goes??
I thought as much...

If the where no profit in the casino business, they'll be little or no casino out there.
you are talking about casino that already existing and operating better, but what about those new sites that OP is pointing? do you understand that there are no same structure of each site?
those operating specially scam site like you advertise mostly has big amount to run their advertising.
but if they are legit but still new then they will have to spend from their own pocket.

That's why it's important for a casino to have reserve funds, especially if it's just starting or new to the crypto-gambling industry. Because if there are no reserve funds, the casino's only goal, and pursuit will be to raise funds from gamblers who will enter money into their gambling platform.

Therefore it is also important to know if a casino is legitimate or not so that at least we have an idea if we will enter money or not into the platform of a new cryptocurrency casino.

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April 13, 2023, 12:30:50 PM
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So when you win a game on freebitco.in, you are  taking the other players' money. The casino never loses any money because they take their cut either way. If you lose or win, it doesn't matter to the casino at all.

I think more casinos should follow this same business model.
Actually, I agree that other casinos use this Paramutuel system, but it is difficult for other casinos to implement this system, and especially for new casinos, it is difficult to take the risk of implementing this Paramutuel system.
Due to their new casino they need a lot of revenue from customers to be able to grow their platform.
If a new casino uses the Paramutuel system it is likely they will not benefit from their customers and find it difficult to develop on their own platform.
In fact, the Paramutuel system is really liked by gamblers out there.
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April 13, 2023, 12:36:49 PM
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That's why it's important for a casino to have reserve funds, especially if it's just starting or new to the crypto-gambling industry. Because if there are no reserve funds, the casino's only goal, and pursuit will be to raise funds from gamblers who will enter money into their gambling platform.

Therefore it is also important to know if a casino is legitimate or not so that at least we have an idea if we will enter money or not into the platform of a new cryptocurrency casino.
i usually only put a small amount of my money into trying out a new casino. at least enough for a few rounds. especially if for a new casino, there are usually events for new members or first deposits. it can be great for testing a new casino.
regardless of whether they have enough cash reserves to pay player winnings or not. To be honest I didn't pay much attention to it. even though I know it's very important. therefore I would never put my large amount of money into the casino.
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April 13, 2023, 03:25:31 PM
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That's why it's important for a casino to have reserve funds, especially if it's just starting or new to the crypto-gambling industry. Because if there are no reserve funds, the casino's only goal, and pursuit will be to raise funds from gamblers who will enter money into their gambling platform.

Therefore it is also important to know if a casino is legitimate or not so that at least we have an idea if we will enter money or not into the platform of a new cryptocurrency casino.
i usually only put a small amount of my money into trying out a new casino. at least enough for a few rounds. especially if for a new casino, there are usually events for new members or first deposits. it can be great for testing a new casino.
regardless of whether they have enough cash reserves to pay player winnings or not. To be honest I didn't pay much attention to it. even though I know it's very important. therefore I would never put my large amount of money into the casino.
It's better if you don't get tempted by promotions from new casinos because they usually have a betting system that will make it difficult for us to fulfil it even if we deposit more money. But if you still want to try out the new casino, that's fine too and just make sure it's really a small buck to try the new casino. Never be tempted by attractive promotions because not all promotions will provide what we want because terms and conditions apply. We have to look for the terms and conditions so that we don't waste the money we use for gambling, even if it is small money.

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April 13, 2023, 04:21:08 PM
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That's why it's important for a casino to have reserve funds, especially if it's just starting or new to the crypto-gambling industry. Because if there are no reserve funds, the casino's only goal, and pursuit will be to raise funds from gamblers who will enter money into their gambling platform.

Therefore it is also important to know if a casino is legitimate or not so that at least we have an idea if we will enter money or not into the platform of a new cryptocurrency casino.
i usually only put a small amount of my money into trying out a new casino. at least enough for a few rounds. especially if for a new casino, there are usually events for new members or first deposits. it can be great for testing a new casino.
regardless of whether they have enough cash reserves to pay player winnings or not. To be honest I didn't pay much attention to it. even though I know it's very important. therefore I would never put my large amount of money into the casino.
It's better if you don't get tempted by promotions from new casinos because they usually have a betting system that will make it difficult for us to fulfil it even if we deposit more money. But if you still want to try out the new casino, that's fine too and just make sure it's really a small buck to try the new casino. Never be tempted by attractive promotions because not all promotions will provide what we want because terms and conditions apply. We have to look for the terms and conditions so that we don't waste the money we use for gambling, even if it is small money.

Yeah right, not all of those promotions is achievable most of them always have wagering requirements that if we are not careful in reading it, we will just go to disappoint ourselves to the point that we will be forced to keep trying to reach it and eventually we will just lose our deposited money.

Better to use the new platform and try the promotions using spare money, an amount that you can afford to lose whatever happens you can just let go and take the experienced playing inside the platform with you.

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April 13, 2023, 06:29:15 PM
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That's why it's important for a casino to have reserve funds, especially if it's just starting or new to the crypto-gambling industry. Because if there are no reserve funds, the casino's only goal, and pursuit will be to raise funds from gamblers who will enter money into their gambling platform.

Therefore it is also important to know if a casino is legitimate or not so that at least we have an idea if we will enter money or not into the platform of a new cryptocurrency casino.
i usually only put a small amount of my money into trying out a new casino. at least enough for a few rounds. especially if for a new casino, there are usually events for new members or first deposits. it can be great for testing a new casino.
regardless of whether they have enough cash reserves to pay player winnings or not. To be honest I didn't pay much attention to it. even though I know it's very important. therefore I would never put my large amount of money into the casino.
It's better if you don't get tempted by promotions from new casinos because they usually have a betting system that will make it difficult for us to fulfil it even if we deposit more money. But if you still want to try out the new casino, that's fine too and just make sure it's really a small buck to try the new casino. Never be tempted by attractive promotions because not all promotions will provide what we want because terms and conditions apply. We have to look for the terms and conditions so that we don't waste the money we use for gambling, even if it is small money.
I am a player who looks for good promotions,good bonuses and has a lot to do when it comes to having the best offers, erp I have a big mistake and that is that I do not always read the terms and conditions because I do not like to read so much when I am about to to register and that is an error that I must correct, sometimes one sees that the promos say that they have to be for 30 people and then they cannot use the voucher in those cases I do not read,but it is necessary because otherwise it is to inconvenience because there are things that don't add up and it gets ugly when you want to withdraw winnings that don't leave the casino.

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April 13, 2023, 09:11:43 PM
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I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers? Where does their earning comes from? How will you get scammed when you try online casino? How can you tell that online casino is safe?
when you place a bet on a casino's platform and it turns out on the losing side, where does the funds goes??
I thought as much...

If the where no profit in the casino business, they'll be little or no casino out there.

Well, when you lose a gambling game all the money goes to the gambling site and in case you win the gambling houses give you the winning amount. The point to note is that gambling games are not peer to peer games, hence any money lost is a direct profit for the gambling site.
So in order for anyone to run a casino, they need initial funds to pay out the winners but as the casino grows more and more people will lose money and then there won't be a problem for the gambling casino to pay to the winners as they would be collecting huge amounts from people who lose in gambling.

There are many other expenses that the site has to cover, not only paying the players. There is marketing and promotions, software and hardware maintenance, bandwidth, personnel... It is not that difficult to go under if the managers do not have a clear understanding of what they are doing. However, it is true that a casino has a permanent flow of cash, so financing is not an issue usually.

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April 14, 2023, 04:28:09 AM
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That's why it's important for a casino to have reserve funds, especially if it's just starting or new to the crypto-gambling industry. Because if there are no reserve funds, the casino's only goal, and pursuit will be to raise funds from gamblers who will enter money into their gambling platform.

Therefore it is also important to know if a casino is legitimate or not so that at least we have an idea if we will enter money or not into the platform of a new cryptocurrency casino.
i usually only put a small amount of my money into trying out a new casino. at least enough for a few rounds. especially if for a new casino, there are usually events for new members or first deposits. it can be great for testing a new casino.
regardless of whether they have enough cash reserves to pay player winnings or not. To be honest I didn't pay much attention to it. even though I know it's very important. therefore I would never put my large amount of money into the casino.
Unfortunately there are many gamblers out there that are not as cautious as you are and decide to use a big amount when trying a new casino and they end up regretting this decision as they get scammed.

Which is not surprising as when it comes to new casinos we do not have enough feedback to know if those casinos are legitimate or a scam, so even someone which went through the trouble of doing their own due diligence will not find enough information online about that casino, making them more susceptible to get scammed.
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April 14, 2023, 06:58:37 AM
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That's why it's important for a casino to have reserve funds, especially if it's just starting or new to the crypto-gambling industry. Because if there are no reserve funds, the casino's only goal, and pursuit will be to raise funds from gamblers who will enter money into their gambling platform.

Therefore it is also important to know if a casino is legitimate or not so that at least we have an idea if we will enter money or not into the platform of a new cryptocurrency casino.
i usually only put a small amount of my money into trying out a new casino. at least enough for a few rounds. especially if for a new casino, there are usually events for new members or first deposits. it can be great for testing a new casino.
regardless of whether they have enough cash reserves to pay player winnings or not. To be honest I didn't pay much attention to it. even though I know it's very important. therefore I would never put my large amount of money into the casino.
Unfortunately there are many gamblers out there that are not as cautious as you are and decide to use a big amount when trying a new casino and they end up regretting this decision as they get scammed.

Which is not surprising as when it comes to new casinos we do not have enough feedback to know if those casinos are legitimate or a scam, so even someone which went through the trouble of doing their own due diligence will not find enough information online about that casino, making them more susceptible to get scammed.
this happens a lot and lots of people on these forums always warn you to be careful when trying out new casinos without any reputation and do a small amount of testing and you can afford to lose. I mean if trying a new casino site without good reputation it is better to test by depositing a small amount to give the site a try. and if it looks good there is no problem, try to withdraw your funds from the site and if there are no obstacles, don't jump to conclusion that the casino is worth depositing a large amount. because sometimes casinos like that trap when with a small amount there is no problem when using a large amount your funds will be taken for a thousand reasons.

anyway, a new casino should think long term not to risk defrauding its customers resulting in a bad reputation for its own site.

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April 14, 2023, 06:15:45 PM
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I am a player who looks for good promotions,good bonuses and has a lot to do when it comes to having the best offers, erp I have a big mistake and that is that I do not always read the terms and conditions because I do not like to read so much when I am about to to register and that is an error that I must correct, sometimes one sees that the promos say that they have to be for 30 people and then they cannot use the voucher in those cases I do not read,but it is necessary because otherwise it is to inconvenience because there are things that don't add up and it gets ugly when you want to withdraw winnings that don't leave the casino.
Gambling generally is taking a risk with your money where the risk of losing the money is higher than winning anything on top of it, and when someone doesn't read the terms and conditions of a casino platform before gambling in it, I believe they simply double the risk for themselves as they will not know anything about their terms and conditions at all.

Whether the terms and conditions are lengthy or you don't like reading, it is important for your gambling activity to have some awareness of the terms of the casino that you are playing at just in case you manage to win something and want to have a withdraw, that's when problems start to build up for you.

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April 14, 2023, 07:28:24 PM
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Yeah right, not all of those promotions is achievable most of them always have wagering requirements that if we are not careful in reading it, we will just go to disappoint ourselves to the point that we will be forced to keep trying to reach it and eventually we will just lose our deposited money.

Better to use the new platform and try the promotions using spare money, an amount that you can afford to lose whatever happens you can just let go and take the experienced playing inside the platform with you.

And I think we've all probably experienced disappointment because it turned out that the promotion had terms and conditions that we couldn't fulfill, so we couldn't get it in the end. But if we don't think much about the promotion and deposit as much money as we can afford, we won't regret it even if we lose.

That's the difference we can get now, depending on your preference. If you want to get a promotion, you must really understand the terms and conditions. If necessary, you can ask the support service before depositing the money set to get the promotional bonus. Do not let us regret it after we deposit the money.

I am a player who looks for good promotions,good bonuses and has a lot to do when it comes to having the best offers, erp I have a big mistake and that is that I do not always read the terms and conditions because I do not like to read so much when I am about to to register and that is an error that I must correct, sometimes one sees that the promos say that they have to be for 30 people and then they cannot use the voucher in those cases I do not read,but it is necessary because otherwise it is to inconvenience because there are things that don't add up and it gets ugly when you want to withdraw winnings that don't leave the casino.

I've been in a position like you and made mistakes, as well as other friends. We seem to get carried away by the temptation of a promotion that looks so good to get that it makes us deposit a set amount of money, but it turns out we have mistaken it for an attractive promotion. It happens because we don't read the terms and conditions, so many of us blame the casino after they find out. Even though it's a mistake, we make ourselves because we don't read it carefully. This should not be repeated to us; we must first see and understand the terms and conditions before we can decide.

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April 14, 2023, 07:38:30 PM
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I am a player who looks for good promotions,good bonuses and has a lot to do when it comes to having the best offers, erp I have a big mistake and that is that I do not always read the terms and conditions because I do not like to read so much when I am about to to register and that is an error that I must correct, sometimes one sees that the promos say that they have to be for 30 people and then they cannot use the voucher in those cases I do not read,but it is necessary because otherwise it is to inconvenience because there are things that don't add up and it gets ugly when you want to withdraw winnings that don't leave the casino.
Gambling generally is taking a risk with your money where the risk of losing the money is higher than winning anything on top of it, and when someone doesn't read the terms and conditions of a casino platform before gambling in it, I believe they simply double the risk for themselves as they will not know anything about their terms and conditions at all.

Whether the terms and conditions are lengthy or you don't like reading, it is important for your gambling activity to have some awareness of the terms of the casino that you are playing at just in case you manage to win something and want to have a withdraw, that's when problems start to build up for you.

Even if you're just a regular small baller, it's still advisable to read the platform's terms and conditions before you commence on making a deposit. I mean, anything can happen and it's much better if you know their terms so that if you find yourself in any situation, you won't be asking yourself some questions that you probably don't know the answers as well. That's just like going into a war without knowing what you're dealing with, and in terms of casino, we should already accept that our chances of losing is really much higher because they got the house edge and we ourselves just have luck and enough knowledge to play.

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April 15, 2023, 05:49:15 AM
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Unfortunately there are many gamblers out there that are not as cautious as you are and decide to use a big amount when trying a new casino and they end up regretting this decision as they get scammed.

Which is not surprising as when it comes to new casinos we do not have enough feedback to know if those casinos are legitimate or a scam, so even someone which went through the trouble of doing their own due diligence will not find enough information online about that casino, making them more susceptible to get scammed.
It's basically greed that makes people use new casinos with big deposits since those casinos promote big bonuses in their advertisements and those with high greed start to imagine that they will win big by claiming that bonus but it actually backfires and they get scammed even if they manage to win something extra with the claimed bonus.

One should simply use an existing platform that is trusted and already has a reputation within the community to stay safe from such things, if it's just about the bonus, I don't really think it's worth it considering you will lose your deposited money only for that.
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April 15, 2023, 07:09:50 PM
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I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers? Where does their earning comes from? How will you get scammed when you try online casino? How can you tell that online casino is safe?
when you place a bet on a casino's platform and it turns out on the losing side, where does the funds goes??
I thought as much...

If the where no profit in the casino business, they'll be little or no casino out there.

Well, when you lose a gambling game all the money goes to the gambling site and in case you win the gambling houses give you the winning amount. The point to note is that gambling games are not peer to peer games, hence any money lost is a direct profit for the gambling site.
So in order for anyone to run a casino, they need initial funds to pay out the winners but as the casino grows more and more people will lose money and then there won't be a problem for the gambling casino to pay to the winners as they would be collecting huge amounts from people who lose in gambling.

In essence, before the casino that was built went well, or we can say a new casino started pioneering in this industry. before, they had to prepare everything in advance. whether it's domains, hosting, scripts, games that will be adopted, you can also adopt sportsbook betting, live casino, and so on. no exception, with a license. well, what is important is sound financial logistics to finance all the operational funds that the casino runs. whether it is related to maintenance costs, other operational funds. financial logistics, can come from several investors, depending on the products we offer. or perhaps, with privately owned funds.

Well, once everything is ready, the casino will introduce itself through web advertisements, influencers, or whatever helps to make the casino famous. that is, the funds that are issued to pay for promotional services have been budgeted in advance without having to rely on losing players.  well, after the process is run properly, the profits will come by itself.  or it could be, as you say and I agree with your opinion.

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April 15, 2023, 08:05:46 PM
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Gambling generally is taking a risk with your money where the risk of losing the money is higher than winning anything on top of it, and when someone doesn't read the terms and conditions of a casino platform before gambling in it, I believe they simply double the risk for themselves as they will not know anything about their terms and conditions at all.

Whether the terms and conditions are lengthy or you don't like reading, it is important for your gambling activity to have some awareness of the terms of the casino that you are playing at just in case you manage to win something and want to have a withdraw, that's when problems start to build up for you.

Even if you're just a regular small baller, it's still advisable to read the platform's terms and conditions before you commence on making a deposit. I mean, anything can happen and it's much better if you know their terms so that if you find yourself in any situation, you won't be asking yourself some questions that you probably don't know the answers as well. That's just like going into a war without knowing what you're dealing with, and in terms of casino, we should already accept that our chances of losing is really much higher because they got the house edge and we ourselves just have luck and enough knowledge to play.
Reading the terms of service is an absolute must regardless of how much money we use to gamble, in a way I get that people do not want to do this as many people do not even like to read, and reading something as dry as the terms of service of a casino may seem like a gigantic waste of time for some, but by doing so they are completely ignorant about the behaviors which may cause their account to be under the scrutiny of a casino, and which could lead them to lose their money and even their account.
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April 15, 2023, 08:55:01 PM
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I am just curious about how does online casino pay for their promotion on their influencers? Where does their earning comes from? How will you get scammed when you try online casino? How can you tell that online casino is safe?
Lol ....'em questions are actually funny.
All Casino makes alot of cash from the losses that's being gambled... What they do is; they'll set up a management team and prepare a voucher for all necessary expenditures...once it's set, they'll set aside a certain amount of cash for ADs& promotion, from the daily, weekly or monthly income.
There are so many casinos that are made to ripp off cash from Thier customers too,..all you need to do is read them reviews before getting signed up... Online casino are safe - i won't say 100% - but it's safe to choose from the lot in here...

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