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April 03, 2023, 09:17:05 AM
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Same as casino control the probably fair system, to the point were the system is designed to favor the house agasint the player same way they could choose who qualify for the drop and who not, this is a standard practice for most of the casinos.
There is no fair casino system for gamblers because the system is designed to win the house and make the gambler lose so what kind of fair casino system do you say?
The system is designed to be able to choose who is eligible to lose and who will win. Obviously, this means that the system is running to choose one party and can this be said to be fair, friend.
Yes, maybe this is one of the practices carried out by most casinos, but actually gamblers don't need to think too much about whether they are fair or not, because no gambler knows what actually happens regarding the justice system of a casino.
It's better to gamble for fun and to enjoy all the games we can play guys.

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April 03, 2023, 09:25:24 AM
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I agree with you, big casinos make big profits and it's not a big deal for them to make some drops here and there. I also think that most streamers are playing with fake balances, but they also make drops, and those drops are real. I guess we can say it's all marketing... casinos with drops/bonuses/promotions/wheels are more attractive.  


I believe that some casinos are doing these drops, but those drops always come with some catch. I don't remember the last time I got some cash drop, but free spins or free bet comes from time to time depending on a site and how active I am. The trick about these drops is that casinos don't really spend all that money, if they drop $5-$10 in free spins/bets to +1000 people, most of us will just lose that on a site. Just a few people manage to cash out some money.
They are given a budget and from that budget the do the drops. It's all part of the plan. Casinos and sportsbooks want you to win as much as it's enough for them to keep you with them. Imagine you never win, you will not play again. Very simple technique to keep you busy with them.



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April 03, 2023, 09:27:51 AM
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There is no way you can verify that because most time the give such a big estimate so that many gamblers will think that they are giving out huge sum of amount as giveaways or bonus. This is one of the bussiness techniques these casinos uses to lure gamblers to there casinos and make more money. I feel like every other casinos also do the same to promote their business to the next level.

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April 03, 2023, 09:31:53 AM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
If it's from a reputable casino, I wouldn't doubt it since they're very popular and have got the respect of the community then it is for sure that they're transparent enough that they're releasing those wins and the selection process is fair to all. That's why they've got some requirements for someone to participate in the selection because they need to address that for everyone to still have some effort in joining. As for the amount given, you can always verify that by reading the rules and how much is the actual thing that they've dropped. I know that there might no list of the eligible participants but this is what the trust comes and it depends on them if they'll release the winners but IMHO, there's really no need for it and as a community, with that casino the winners can just have some chit chat and conversation to see who claims that they've chosen as winners.

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April 03, 2023, 09:32:52 AM
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They can easily lie about this because no one is going to ask them to show proof that they send anyone the bonuses, why would anyone ask in the first place? But we can't deny that Casinos are making enough money enough to spend some money on advertising purposes or to attract more people to their companies, they can do this easily too, yet I believe that start up casinos that easily lie about everything, the most problematic online casinos are those new companies that haven't build any reputation before, it will always be easier for them to cheat, lie and defraud people if the opportunity arises.

I will always prefer old reputable gambling platforms and if I have to try a new one, they must have already started to build their reputation, don't expect me to go for a casino that just launched days ago, I will wait for few months and see how far they have come.

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April 03, 2023, 09:36:10 AM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

How trustworthy, honest and transparent are any kind of for-profit businesses?

I think they are all about the same more or less but only as dishonest as the regulators and their customers allow them to be. Any good business owner understands the repercussions of a bad image and customer complaints. Such businesses are not hard to spot and there are always scam accusations against them from multiple sources. But it depends on the owner of the business, really. If the owner is not very serious, that will reflect on the business's image. And as I said, stuff like that is really easy to spot.

I am not sure how you could determine how many drops or bonuses they give to their customers, or whether such a process is in any way transparent but I think if the casino has a responsible owner, they will not risk their entire image over something like this.

If you are worried about trustworthy online gambling casinos, just do some research on those casinos here on this board and ask around what other people think. Once you have done your own research, you should be able to have a clear picture.


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April 03, 2023, 09:38:10 AM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

I believe there are some casinos out there that are still honest and transparent irrespective of the shortcomings of other casinos. I myself have witnessed it. I have had the experience where by a casino I frequent did airdrop twice into my account with them and I gambled with it and won big time. I also made withdrawals and was approved by the casino for me to cash out. I was wondering if the casino would last long as they are a new casino running but I had to rethink because these they have done is what the gambling community wants, a open, honest and transparent casino for which are reliable and funds trusted to. So far the casino the casino is running on this platform and are recognized here.

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April 03, 2023, 09:45:16 AM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
I see no reason why they would withhold said promos/rewards, I mean yes they're a pretty sizeable amount but only to us. To them, it's probably peanuts. Plus it's a marketing strategy so some thinking has gone through as to why it was x amount given to y people, it would always fall into acceptable levels for casinos (unless they're new, in which case risks are unavoidable). I've never really bothered trying to count whether they gave everything out as they said, usually it just stems to me getting it or not. It's also rather difficult since you wouldn't exactly expect a group of gamblers to have a unity of sorts, so trying to tally it would be rather hard.

Even in the case of crypto, giving it out to x amount of wallets doesn't exactly certify it's all given out, they may have made dummy accounts to recycle the money back to them. But eh, as long as I get the bonus I don't really care if they fulfill their words, if I don't, then that's just unlucky. The important part here is that they're giving out something anyway.

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In my opinion, if a casino site takes advantage of this kind of cheating, it will definitely not be able to maintain its reputation in the long run. Because all the casinos that are at the top of the list today have honest intentions. They are not greedy for little money. If the site is established then they will increase the amount of their dividend. But if a casino is involved in this corruption, it will not be easy to determine. But they will surely deteriorate in the future.

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April 03, 2023, 12:27:44 PM
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[....] How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
It's something that I would be interested to know as well but I also understand that it's probably not something every player would like to to be shown. I'm sure there are still high rollers who prefer to keep their gambling activities private and that includes bonuses or drops they receive. That is likely one reason why casinos do not release such list. Maybe one of the active owners that are also forum members can give us a better reasoning.

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April 03, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
If the casino is reputable it will live up to its promises, they do not need to account for their action, bonuses are a way to thank its loyal players, and they do not need to come out on its list if they don't want to, those who believe and trust the casino they are playing they will take it as it is if you are not comfortable with this and have doubts you can ask support and ask for a list, they will give it to you if they think there is a need to do this, but we know how casinos protect their players' preferences for their privacy.


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How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

There's no sense for a reputable casino to rig their giveaway since this balance will be sent to the casino wallet account of participants and eligible winners need to wager it to grow on an amount they can withdraw. The chance for that small balance to grow into a withdrawal amount is very slim. The casino is using this small giveaway t make gamblers experience gambling for the possibility that they will gamble more once they are addicted to winning.


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AFAIK there's no casino have publicity about the list users who's receive the promos from them, if you think those casinos weren't honest and transparent, you can leave negative feedback on their account, Duelbits is one of many casinos which like that Roll Eyes

Despite I don't know if the casino have been distribute the promos, I consider a big and popular casinos are honest about their promos.

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How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
Hard to tell since most of the casinos didn't disclose those who got the bonus though if its a contest most probably they will share it to the public.
You can only know that hey are paying once you are able to qualify for that reward, so far I'm happy with my bonuses and I can tell that they are really paying especially the most trusted casinos. Don't stress too much thinking for this, better to enjoy playing or maybe you can aim for the bonus without stressing yourself.
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

In cryptocurrency casinos it is not clear to me how transparent it can be, but in regulated casinos with state licenses there is strict supervision to ensure the fairness of the whole process. On the other hand, even though cryptocurrency casinos may not be so transparent they already make enough money doing things legitimately to complicate it with cheating. We can't be sure if some of them cheat, but for that the best thing to do is to bet on the trusted ones of the forum. As robelneo says:

If the casino is reputable it will live up to its promises, they do not need to account for their action, bonuses are a way to thank its loyal players, and they do not need to come out on its list if they don't want to, those who believe and trust the casino they are playing they will take it as it is if you are not comfortable with this and have doubts you can ask support and ask for a list, they will give it to you if they think there is a need to do this, but we know how casinos protect their players' preferences for their privacy.

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How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
Hard to tell since most of the casinos didn't disclose those who got the bonus though if its a contest most probably they will share it to the public.
You can only know that hey are paying once you are able to qualify for that reward, so far I'm happy with my bonuses and I can tell that they are really paying especially the most trusted casinos. Don't stress too much thinking for this, better to enjoy playing or maybe you can aim for the bonus without stressing yourself.

Yeah, Giveaway and Tournament is very different. Giveaway doesn’t required transparency for all the recipients because it was given on first come first serve basis. Casino usually just drop a code for users to claim without any requirements while tournament usually have a requirement in a form of betting.

We can view the casino a someone giving away without expecting in return. It’s up to us if we will believe them or not.

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April 03, 2023, 02:07:22 PM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue

Why would they, they have a list of VIPS to protect and they are bound to protect their privacy it's not a good idea, there are other ways to check a casino's honesty and transparency, not to the point that they will have to expose their lists of players, Its important that the casino's reputation is good and they can keep maintaining that reputation, I don't mind about the list and I guess majority here do not mind at all, it never came to me that I will want the casino to show the list.

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April 03, 2023, 02:50:33 PM
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Does it have to be transparent?
The casinos decide what to do with their own money and who to give bonuses to. They want to make more money, who are we to judge them? Grin The gambling businesses aren't charity foundations, after all. They don't have any social and moral obligations(sad, but true).
I'm pretty sure the casinos will give "drops" and bonuses to the most hardcore gamblers, in order to keep them spending money on the casino.
There's no point giving away money and bonuses to new players, who might play once or twice and leave the casino after a while.


Yes, that is their right and we do not have the authority to force them to provide transparency unless the casino users submit a petition to the casino owner to show it, if only one or two people speak maybe they will not be heard and will definitely be ignored.
I think the casinos also don't have to be transparent in terms of bonuses because it's their right to whoever gives it.
Even though in words the number of bonus recipients is 2500 people or whatever it is, of course there are conditions that must be passed to get bonuses, whether or not the number of bonus recipients up to 2500 people is achieved depends on how many people are eligible if you think ideally.
Although many are eligible but not fulfilled, maybe I think it's a marketing system to treat casino users or attract the attention of outside gamblers.

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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

You can't go on investigating on every casinos to know how transparent they are in terms of giving their referral bonus, but the best simple way to know this is to keep a try on up to two or three casinos and see the outcomes that you may get after participating in their referral bonus hunt, if we don't experience it ourselves, then it will be a sentimented judgement to give on other casinos that do justification in giving out referral bonus promptly and adequately.



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April 03, 2023, 03:09:09 PM
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I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  Tongue
Casinos don't just open on day 1 and start doing bonus giveaways, a capable casino that can easily give such bonuses are those that have been running the business for sometimes, it doesn't take very long for online casinos to make some money, the bitter truth is that those money are from gamblers who ran out of luck and lose their games. Most online casinos are not safe, they will pretend to give bonuses to attract people and they have nothing to show for it, that's why we need to be careful with online casinos, check their progress very well, and make sure the casino is people favorite, you can do this easily by following their ANN and see what people are saying about the online casino, with good feedback from users you will be able to tell if you are in safe hands or not.

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