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Title: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 03, 2023, 05:54:38 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on April 03, 2023, 06:05:05 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?
It's hard to tell which is true and which is hoax. But Casinos and Sportsbooks make enough money to spend that seems huge to us and for them it's peanuts. Only someone who owns a successful gambling business can tell us the truth but I bet they are not going to tell their secrets in a public forum. One thing is 100% sure which is when you see the streamers are betting hundreds of dollars and losing hundred thousands of dollar in a live session, are all faked.

Usually the casino and these streamers have a deal. They give the streamer fake balance and streamers show off his gambling stakes. It's win-win for both casino and streamer. Streamer receives attention and increase followers on their channel, the casino receives exposures for it's name.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: davis196 on April 03, 2023, 06:36:21 AM
Does it have to be transparent?
The casinos decide what to do with their own money and who to give bonuses to. They want to make more money, who are we to judge them? ;D The gambling businesses aren't charity foundations, after all. They don't have any social and moral obligations(sad, but true).
I'm pretty sure the casinos will give "drops" and bonuses to the most hardcore gamblers, in order to keep them spending money on the casino.
There's no point giving away money and bonuses to new players, who might play once or twice and leave the casino after a while.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: klidex on April 03, 2023, 06:43:23 AM
Sometimes I think as you think, For me it's not a big deal but just about being honest about what they do.
I myself don't really care about those things and what I know is that I gamble to entertain myself and I gamble in casinos that are trusted and provide the best for their users.
I don't care how honest the casino is to the customer I'm sure the established casinos will give their best.
Regarding publication, it is very unlikely that casinos will publish it because it is a way of marketing that is personal and not for publication and I don't have much time to constantly think about it.
Enough betting and having fun, About the honesty of the casino let it be their business.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Oshosondy on April 03, 2023, 06:54:03 AM
Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?
I have only be using a reputable casino, or a casino that I make my investigations and highly believe they are reputable enough not to cheat. I have claimed deposit bonus many times and all the casinos I have used that promises the bonus all gave me the bonus. I think so will other promotional offers be too. There is one thing about casino, if you play and you continue to play, be given bonus, there is the possibility that you will lose your bonus back to the gambling site. If a gambling site is having good reputation, I do not think you have anything to worry about their promotion offers.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: TheUltraElite on April 03, 2023, 06:54:36 AM
Old and reputed casinos would never scam you, they can but the chance is very tiny, considering their presence and their userbase who support them. You don't want that support group to turn to a mob.

These things are difficult to verify on your own so it might seem like a suspicious thing from one side. Best to not use that casino for your mental peace. Question is whether you are going to investigate that yourself or just let the casino do as it pleases?

But I can say that there are programmers who verify alogrithm and all to mark those casinos as legit from this forum.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: piebeyb on April 03, 2023, 06:56:52 AM
Does it have to be transparent?
The casinos decide what to do with their own money and who to give bonuses to. They want to make more money, who are we to judge them? ;D The gambling businesses aren't charity foundations, after all. They don't have any social and moral obligations(sad, but true).
I'm pretty sure the casinos will give "drops" and bonuses to the most hardcore gamblers, in order to keep them spending money on the casino.
There's no point giving away money and bonuses to new players, who might play once or twice and leave the casino after a while.

I always agree with this, people always equate casinos with charities expecting free money from there, after all it is their right too regardless of how they are distributed, whether it is transparent or not is not our business, after all it is money they want to give to anyone they want and are not obligated to be transparent in this regard. I think this discussion is just a waste of time


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Ojima-ojo on April 03, 2023, 07:01:32 AM
Just like the saying goes with exchange not your key, not your coin, the same applies to casino bonuses or airdrops, not your win not your money, so if a casino promises anything in form of an Airdrop they can decide who they give the drop to or who not.

Same as casino control the probably fair system, to the point were the system is designed to favor the house agasint the player same way they could choose who qualify for the drop and who not, this is a standard practice for most of the casinos.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Mauser on April 03, 2023, 07:02:40 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

These drops are not really that big compared to the average amount a gambler spends at a casino in a month. You can look at it as form of rake back from the casino and almost all the big casinos are offering these days. During the covid lockdowns we had a big boom in the online gambling industry and casinos needs to be competitive to attract new customers and maintain their gamblers. In my opinion these drops are legit and I haven't heard otherwise. Also most casinos have a chat window where you can actually see which players get the drops. For the casino it's a form of advertising and the players can't withdraw that money. For example at one poker casino where I play regularly, the give every gambler daily a 0.25 USD tournament ticket. You have to play with it and even when you win you can't withdraw that money, you need to play with 3x the amount you won before being eligible to withdraw. That is a great system as it increase the number of games at the casino and doesn't hurt much the profitability of the casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: cafter on April 03, 2023, 07:03:42 AM
I mostly got bonuses when i done my account zero mean losed all, then after some times a message popups you got "rain" for crash reaching 100x, you got "rain" for x user won 1 million,
and don't know about big players but, when i was winning then at that time i don't got bonuses, and also sites like stake, bcgame all give rains "rain" to those people who are active on chats,
the casino no making any loss in giving bonuses , like palyers stay active on chat then they get distracted from there game and bet without concentrating and  lose in the last.
i think big sites are genuinely give bonuses because they and all know the power of a common men if anyone doubted that and made an video on youtube with proof then their brand image will get bad in front of us , so why they will fake bonuses,  but i am skeptical about small new site who just tell that x number of users won bonuses worth $1000, to promote their site more.
after all bonuses are so small like cents or some 1 or 2 dollars which is after all going to there pocket,


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: _act_ on April 03, 2023, 07:08:47 AM
I mostly got bonuses when i done my account zero mean losed all, then after some times a message popups you got "rain" for crash reaching 100x, you got "rain" for x user won 1 million,
The bonus I got last was when I registered on a local gambling site and the bonus was 100% of the money I deposited, although the bonus was splitter into 10 different money which was 10 divided by the money that I deposited. I can use each to bet and it can expire after 7 days that I was given. I gamble and won but I was given the bonus. One thing about bonus is that they can have stringent rules that may discourage some people to use it, or not to use it in a way that can profit them.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: death69 on April 03, 2023, 07:19:13 AM
The question of transparency in gambling establishment promotions is a legitimate issue that merits further examination. With the ongoing progress of technology, numerous inventive approaches can be employed to tackle this challenge.

One feasible solution involves the utilization of random number generators, which can guarantee impartial and transparent distribution of promotions. RNGs employ algorithms to generate random digits, which, in turn, can be applied to choose promotion beneficiaries without bias.

Another promising resolution is the adoption of blockchain technology, offering an unalterable record of all transactions and promotional activities. By capitalizing on the transparency and responsibility inherent in blockchain, casinos can ascertain equitable distribution of promotions and eliminate any possibility of illicit skimming.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: acroman08 on April 03, 2023, 07:24:38 AM
I am always sceptical about this too but I think there's really no way to know unless, as you said, they give a list to verify that they actually gave "drops" to thousands of people or gave bonuses to several gamblers. I guess we just need to take them for their word especially when it comes to big casinos that have a reputation to protect since scandal like faking their "drops" could stain their reputation and would not be good for their casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: iv4n on April 03, 2023, 07:25:30 AM
It's hard to tell which is true and which is hoax. But Casinos and Sportsbooks make enough money to spend that seems huge to us and for them it's peanuts. Only someone who owns a successful gambling business can tell us the truth but I bet they are not going to tell their secrets in a public forum. One thing is 100% sure which is when you see the streamers are betting hundreds of dollars and losing hundred thousands of dollar in a live session, are all faked.

Usually the casino and these streamers have a deal. They give the streamer fake balance and streamers show off his gambling stakes. It's win-win for both casino and streamer. Streamer receives attention and increase followers on their channel, the casino receives exposures for it's name.

I agree with you, big casinos make big profits and it's not a big deal for them to make some drops here and there. I also think that most streamers are playing with fake balances, but they also make drops, and those drops are real. I guess we can say it's all marketing... casinos with drops/bonuses/promotions/wheels are more attractive.

I believe that some casinos are doing these drops, but those drops always come with some catch. I don't remember the last time I got some cash drop, but free spins or free bet comes from time to time depending on a site and how active I am. The trick about these drops is that casinos don't really spend all that money, if they drop $5-$10 in free spins/bets to +1000 people, most of us will just lose that on a site. Just a few people manage to cash out some money.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: swogerino on April 03, 2023, 08:24:56 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

Some casinos are very transparent about it.It shows such transaction in the form of a tip for example in the Stake casino while I am playing casino slots I have the habit to keep the chat open and as they promise they give random rain drops to Platinum VIP-s there and I can see the transactions as it shows there in the form of a tip from a moderator to that person.I have no way to verify further the internals but I think this is enough to judge if a casino is not lying to us and what furthers makes me believe it,is the weekly bonus and monthly bonus which all member from the first level of VIP and on.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Helena Yu on April 03, 2023, 08:33:01 AM
There's no way to know it because transaction inside the casino isn't recorded on blockchain, it's their own system and we can't verify it. The casino can upload an image if they were done the distribution, but remember how the current technology where we can easily manipulating an image by using photoshop isn't? The only way to verify it if the casino ask every users address, it's recorded on blockchain and we will know if they're distribute to every gamblers or not.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: mindrust on April 03, 2023, 08:33:27 AM
Every business has its secrets. You can’t expect the casinos to be 100% transparent with what they do especially if this is a KYC-enabled casino we are talking about. I’ve seen casinos locking up user accounts without a valid reason before and when you ask them why, they say they can’t tell you the reason… But like I said this almost only happens with the KYC-enabled casinos. The moment you send them your passport scan, you are in their hands and they can come up with all the excuses to seize your money.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: IIrik11 on April 03, 2023, 08:33:38 AM
it really doesn't matter how many people they give bonuses too.

they make sure that nobody gets out with it.

this is why they put impossible wager requirements on them.

and therefore they really don't need to lie about it.

it is just a bit of lure to attract new players is all.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Cantsay on April 03, 2023, 08:49:18 AM
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How can the gamblers verify the actual amount of people receiving the drop or the bonus if there is no list to verify it? Let's discuss this. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

Even if they decide to publish a list for everyone to see how would you confirm that the list was not made up?
The whole casino business works on trust the same we the bank work, everyone just hopes that they won't try to scam us (at least the ones that have a high reputation, not those new scam casinos everywhere ).
And since we are dealing with the finance of other people it won't be reasonable to expose that to the public, having to complete KYC was a bit of a hassle for some people not to imagine sharing their balance in a casino with the. Public.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Slow death on April 03, 2023, 08:52:58 AM
Does it have to be transparent?
The casinos decide what to do with their own money and who to give bonuses to. They want to make more money, who are we to judge them? ;D The gambling businesses aren't charity foundations, after all. They don't have any social and moral obligations(sad, but true).

It is true that casinos are privately owned, not charitable institutions, but you are forgetting something very important:

even if you have a company, be your company 100%, when you go public and say the following:

" we will give 100$ bonus to 5000 people "

from the moment you said that, you have a moral obligation to fulfill what you promised, it doesn't matter if the casino is yours, you promised and you must fulfill what you promised, unless something serious happens that prevents you from fulfilling that promise so in this case you need to go public and say that you are no longer going to give that bonus for reasons X and Z.

now when you come to the public and promise 100$ bonus to 5000$ people and then you only give bonus to 500$ and don't tell people that only 500$ got bonus then you become a damn liar and it won't take even much time to make you scammers, because that is the attitude of a scammers, a serious and honest company would not do that kind of thing, a serious and honest person would not do that kind of thing. it's wrong to come and promote to give things to a certain number of people and then give a small number of people and lie that you gave to everyone

There's no point giving away money and bonuses to new players, who might play once or twice and leave the casino after a while.

bonus is a way to get people to play more at the casino, the problem is that currently there are too many casinos, so people can play today at casino X, not like it and move to casino Z. but this is a long subject , that I would have to write a lot about what I think about it, but in a few words the sign-up bonuses are no longer very attractive to keep customers in the casino for a long time, many new casinos do not have many resources when they are launched, so the only thing what is interesting are just the bonus and if there is a high requirement to claim the bonus then it will not make sense for the customer to remain in the casino


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: tusandii on April 03, 2023, 09:17:05 AM
Same as casino control the probably fair system, to the point were the system is designed to favor the house agasint the player same way they could choose who qualify for the drop and who not, this is a standard practice for most of the casinos.
There is no fair casino system for gamblers because the system is designed to win the house and make the gambler lose so what kind of fair casino system do you say?
The system is designed to be able to choose who is eligible to lose and who will win. Obviously, this means that the system is running to choose one party and can this be said to be fair, friend.
Yes, maybe this is one of the practices carried out by most casinos, but actually gamblers don't need to think too much about whether they are fair or not, because no gambler knows what actually happens regarding the justice system of a casino.
It's better to gamble for fun and to enjoy all the games we can play guys.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on April 03, 2023, 09:25:24 AM
I agree with you, big casinos make big profits and it's not a big deal for them to make some drops here and there. I also think that most streamers are playing with fake balances, but they also make drops, and those drops are real. I guess we can say it's all marketing... casinos with drops/bonuses/promotions/wheels are more attractive.  


I believe that some casinos are doing these drops, but those drops always come with some catch. I don't remember the last time I got some cash drop, but free spins or free bet comes from time to time depending on a site and how active I am. The trick about these drops is that casinos don't really spend all that money, if they drop $5-$10 in free spins/bets to +1000 people, most of us will just lose that on a site. Just a few people manage to cash out some money.
They are given a budget and from that budget the do the drops. It's all part of the plan. Casinos and sportsbooks want you to win as much as it's enough for them to keep you with them. Imagine you never win, you will not play again. Very simple technique to keep you busy with them.




Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Desmong on April 03, 2023, 09:27:51 AM
There is no way you can verify that because most time the give such a big estimate so that many gamblers will think that they are giving out huge sum of amount as giveaways or bonus. This is one of the bussiness techniques these casinos uses to lure gamblers to there casinos and make more money. I feel like every other casinos also do the same to promote their business to the next level.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: blockman on April 03, 2023, 09:31:53 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
If it's from a reputable casino, I wouldn't doubt it since they're very popular and have got the respect of the community then it is for sure that they're transparent enough that they're releasing those wins and the selection process is fair to all. That's why they've got some requirements for someone to participate in the selection because they need to address that for everyone to still have some effort in joining. As for the amount given, you can always verify that by reading the rules and how much is the actual thing that they've dropped. I know that there might no list of the eligible participants but this is what the trust comes and it depends on them if they'll release the winners but IMHO, there's really no need for it and as a community, with that casino the winners can just have some chit chat and conversation to see who claims that they've chosen as winners.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Crypt0Gore on April 03, 2023, 09:32:52 AM
They can easily lie about this because no one is going to ask them to show proof that they send anyone the bonuses, why would anyone ask in the first place? But we can't deny that Casinos are making enough money enough to spend some money on advertising purposes or to attract more people to their companies, they can do this easily too, yet I believe that start up casinos that easily lie about everything, the most problematic online casinos are those new companies that haven't build any reputation before, it will always be easier for them to cheat, lie and defraud people if the opportunity arises.

I will always prefer old reputable gambling platforms and if I have to try a new one, they must have already started to build their reputation, don't expect me to go for a casino that just launched days ago, I will wait for few months and see how far they have come.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 03, 2023, 09:36:10 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

How trustworthy, honest and transparent are any kind of for-profit businesses?

I think they are all about the same more or less but only as dishonest as the regulators and their customers allow them to be. Any good business owner understands the repercussions of a bad image and customer complaints. Such businesses are not hard to spot and there are always scam accusations against them from multiple sources. But it depends on the owner of the business, really. If the owner is not very serious, that will reflect on the business's image. And as I said, stuff like that is really easy to spot.

I am not sure how you could determine how many drops or bonuses they give to their customers, or whether such a process is in any way transparent but I think if the casino has a responsible owner, they will not risk their entire image over something like this.

If you are worried about trustworthy online gambling casinos, just do some research on those casinos here on this board and ask around what other people think. Once you have done your own research, you should be able to have a clear picture.



Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: CryptSafe on April 03, 2023, 09:38:10 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

I believe there are some casinos out there that are still honest and transparent irrespective of the shortcomings of other casinos. I myself have witnessed it. I have had the experience where by a casino I frequent did airdrop twice into my account with them and I gambled with it and won big time. I also made withdrawals and was approved by the casino for me to cash out. I was wondering if the casino would last long as they are a new casino running but I had to rethink because these they have done is what the gambling community wants, a open, honest and transparent casino for which are reliable and funds trusted to. So far the casino the casino is running on this platform and are recognized here.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Wexnident on April 03, 2023, 09:45:16 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
I see no reason why they would withhold said promos/rewards, I mean yes they're a pretty sizeable amount but only to us. To them, it's probably peanuts. Plus it's a marketing strategy so some thinking has gone through as to why it was x amount given to y people, it would always fall into acceptable levels for casinos (unless they're new, in which case risks are unavoidable). I've never really bothered trying to count whether they gave everything out as they said, usually it just stems to me getting it or not. It's also rather difficult since you wouldn't exactly expect a group of gamblers to have a unity of sorts, so trying to tally it would be rather hard.

Even in the case of crypto, giving it out to x amount of wallets doesn't exactly certify it's all given out, they may have made dummy accounts to recycle the money back to them. But eh, as long as I get the bonus I don't really care if they fulfill their words, if I don't, then that's just unlucky. The important part here is that they're giving out something anyway.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Rabata on April 03, 2023, 12:04:21 PM
In my opinion, if a casino site takes advantage of this kind of cheating, it will definitely not be able to maintain its reputation in the long run. Because all the casinos that are at the top of the list today have honest intentions. They are not greedy for little money. If the site is established then they will increase the amount of their dividend. But if a casino is involved in this corruption, it will not be easy to determine. But they will surely deteriorate in the future.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Yogee on April 03, 2023, 12:27:44 PM
[....] How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
It's something that I would be interested to know as well but I also understand that it's probably not something every player would like to to be shown. I'm sure there are still high rollers who prefer to keep their gambling activities private and that includes bonuses or drops they receive. That is likely one reason why casinos do not release such list. Maybe one of the active owners that are also forum members can give us a better reasoning.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: robelneo on April 03, 2023, 12:41:05 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
If the casino is reputable it will live up to its promises, they do not need to account for their action, bonuses are a way to thank its loyal players, and they do not need to come out on its list if they don't want to, those who believe and trust the casino they are playing they will take it as it is if you are not comfortable with this and have doubts you can ask support and ask for a list, they will give it to you if they think there is a need to do this, but we know how casinos protect their players' preferences for their privacy.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Beparanf on April 03, 2023, 01:08:08 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

There's no sense for a reputable casino to rig their giveaway since this balance will be sent to the casino wallet account of participants and eligible winners need to wager it to grow on an amount they can withdraw. The chance for that small balance to grow into a withdrawal amount is very slim. The casino is using this small giveaway t make gamblers experience gambling for the possibility that they will gamble more once they are addicted to winning.



Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Plaguedeath on April 03, 2023, 01:20:30 PM
AFAIK there's no casino have publicity about the list users who's receive the promos from them, if you think those casinos weren't honest and transparent, you can leave negative feedback on their account, Duelbits is one of many casinos which like that ::)

Despite I don't know if the casino have been distribute the promos, I consider a big and popular casinos are honest about their promos.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: crzy on April 03, 2023, 01:28:58 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Hard to tell since most of the casinos didn't disclose those who got the bonus though if its a contest most probably they will share it to the public.
You can only know that hey are paying once you are able to qualify for that reward, so far I'm happy with my bonuses and I can tell that they are really paying especially the most trusted casinos. Don't stress too much thinking for this, better to enjoy playing or maybe you can aim for the bonus without stressing yourself.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on April 03, 2023, 01:47:07 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

In cryptocurrency casinos it is not clear to me how transparent it can be, but in regulated casinos with state licenses there is strict supervision to ensure the fairness of the whole process. On the other hand, even though cryptocurrency casinos may not be so transparent they already make enough money doing things legitimately to complicate it with cheating. We can't be sure if some of them cheat, but for that the best thing to do is to bet on the trusted ones of the forum. As robelneo says:

If the casino is reputable it will live up to its promises, they do not need to account for their action, bonuses are a way to thank its loyal players, and they do not need to come out on its list if they don't want to, those who believe and trust the casino they are playing they will take it as it is if you are not comfortable with this and have doubts you can ask support and ask for a list, they will give it to you if they think there is a need to do this, but we know how casinos protect their players' preferences for their privacy.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: dimonstration on April 03, 2023, 02:06:18 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Hard to tell since most of the casinos didn't disclose those who got the bonus though if its a contest most probably they will share it to the public.
You can only know that hey are paying once you are able to qualify for that reward, so far I'm happy with my bonuses and I can tell that they are really paying especially the most trusted casinos. Don't stress too much thinking for this, better to enjoy playing or maybe you can aim for the bonus without stressing yourself.

Yeah, Giveaway and Tournament is very different. Giveaway doesn’t required transparency for all the recipients because it was given on first come first serve basis. Casino usually just drop a code for users to claim without any requirements while tournament usually have a requirement in a form of betting.

We can view the casino a someone giving away without expecting in return. It’s up to us if we will believe them or not.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: coin-investor on April 03, 2023, 02:07:22 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

Why would they, they have a list of VIPS to protect and they are bound to protect their privacy it's not a good idea, there are other ways to check a casino's honesty and transparency, not to the point that they will have to expose their lists of players, Its important that the casino's reputation is good and they can keep maintaining that reputation, I don't mind about the list and I guess majority here do not mind at all, it never came to me that I will want the casino to show the list.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fesatmas on April 03, 2023, 02:50:33 PM
Does it have to be transparent?
The casinos decide what to do with their own money and who to give bonuses to. They want to make more money, who are we to judge them? ;D The gambling businesses aren't charity foundations, after all. They don't have any social and moral obligations(sad, but true).
I'm pretty sure the casinos will give "drops" and bonuses to the most hardcore gamblers, in order to keep them spending money on the casino.
There's no point giving away money and bonuses to new players, who might play once or twice and leave the casino after a while.


Yes, that is their right and we do not have the authority to force them to provide transparency unless the casino users submit a petition to the casino owner to show it, if only one or two people speak maybe they will not be heard and will definitely be ignored.
I think the casinos also don't have to be transparent in terms of bonuses because it's their right to whoever gives it.
Even though in words the number of bonus recipients is 2500 people or whatever it is, of course there are conditions that must be passed to get bonuses, whether or not the number of bonus recipients up to 2500 people is achieved depends on how many people are eligible if you think ideally.
Although many are eligible but not fulfilled, maybe I think it's a marketing system to treat casino users or attract the attention of outside gamblers.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Dunamisx on April 03, 2023, 03:03:16 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

You can't go on investigating on every casinos to know how transparent they are in terms of giving their referral bonus, but the best simple way to know this is to keep a try on up to two or three casinos and see the outcomes that you may get after participating in their referral bonus hunt, if we don't experience it ourselves, then it will be a sentimented judgement to give on other casinos that do justification in giving out referral bonus promptly and adequately.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Outhue on April 03, 2023, 03:09:09 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Casinos don't just open on day 1 and start doing bonus giveaways, a capable casino that can easily give such bonuses are those that have been running the business for sometimes, it doesn't take very long for online casinos to make some money, the bitter truth is that those money are from gamblers who ran out of luck and lose their games. Most online casinos are not safe, they will pretend to give bonuses to attract people and they have nothing to show for it, that's why we need to be careful with online casinos, check their progress very well, and make sure the casino is people favorite, you can do this easily by following their ANN and see what people are saying about the online casino, with good feedback from users you will be able to tell if you are in safe hands or not.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Wiwo on April 03, 2023, 03:14:47 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

You can't go on investigating on every casinos to know how transparent they are in terms of giving their referral bonus, but the best simple way to know this is to keep a try on up to two or three casinos and see the outcomes that you may get after participating in their referral bonus hunt, if we don't experience it ourselves, then it will be a sentimented judgement to give on other casinos that do justification in giving out referral bonus promptly and adequately.
Exactly taking part in multiple of those airdrop will unveil what the nature of it distribution and I am sure quite a few casinos have really given some form of bonus airdrop when they introduce new projects such as NFTs and other coins which are distributed to players.

-So we can't measure the level and extent of airdrop distribution by the casino, but I am sure most of them will go ahead with distribution.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: YOSHIE on April 03, 2023, 03:34:32 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Not sure how big the chance of a casino actually dropping Bonuses on its users, but and to be honest I often risk Bonuses like: Daily rakeback, Weekly Cashback, Monthly Bonus, at one of the leading casino sites here, and I can verify the bonus for real, although I always lose when the bonus is rolled and wagered.

Bottom line: don't know how many people got the bonus like me, maybe 100-500 people, maybe, but the casino has a list and records of it all, for the people who get the bonus.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: bettercrypto on April 03, 2023, 03:56:59 PM
Have you seen any casino gambling here on cryptocurrency do what you say? That's why playing casino apps here in online crypto depends on the belief and trust of a gambler in a casino.

       Because of the few years I have been here in the world of crypto, honestly speaking I have not seen the breakdown of the casinos that they gave with the bonuses that they did in the promotion that they applied to their gambling platform.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 03, 2023, 05:13:04 PM
Have you seen any casino gambling here on cryptocurrency do what you say? That's why playing casino apps here in online crypto depends on the belief and trust of a gambler in a casino.

       Because of the few years I have been here in the world of crypto, honestly speaking I have not seen the breakdown of the casinos that they gave with the bonuses that they did in the promotion that they applied to their gambling platform.

nope, you can't get such figures from any casino out here. basically, you are just trusting the site that they will be honest about it. you can't expect them to disclose what they are really doing those bonuses or drops. and why gamblers care about such rewards? some are just happy to receive it, right? no one cares if it was given to all or not. also, casinos won't publicly publish who have gotten such bonuses or rewards. they may have their list but that's for their consumption not for public. in this case, you just trust the casino that they will do what they stated to their community.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: pawanjain on April 03, 2023, 05:19:20 PM
The truth is we can't really find out if the site is actually giving away the drops or not.
Some do post the draws which can be verified but most of the times its just out in the thin air.
Trusted and reputed sites don't cheat their users usually because one mistake can decline their user base by a huge margin.
This is why they tend to do genuine promotions only which in turn increases their user base.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Viscore on April 03, 2023, 05:43:20 PM
Does it have to be transparent?
The casinos decide what to do with their own money and who to give bonuses to. They want to make more money, who are we to judge them? ;D The gambling businesses aren't charity foundations, after all. They don't have any social and moral obligations(sad, but true).
I'm pretty sure the casinos will give "drops" and bonuses to the most hardcore gamblers, in order to keep them spending money on the casino.
There's no point giving away money and bonuses to new players, who might play once or twice and leave the casino after a while.

Exactly. Sometimes, being honest and transparent are only in the books, but if they really do execute then that’s way better. But I think what matters here is how they can be more profitable, and where they can be profitable. It’s their funds so they have all the right where to spend them, or if they really spend them or not. Bonuses are what we also find interesting in gambling, but of course the casino will only give them to those who are deserving players, those who have stayed for them and have wagered a lot for them.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: nakamura12 on April 03, 2023, 06:21:03 PM
This is really hard to prove but how I see it or what I think the reason why they give bonuses is that I think they didn't skim from the top but rather a mix of gamblers who gambled on their platform and to those who rarely gamble which I think some of them will be tempted to deposit because of the bonus. Honestly, it happened to me where I usually gamble 2-4 within a month but it changed when I am tempted with the bonus and that month made me gamble 3-6 instead of 2-4 within a month (that was before though because right now, I haven't been in gambling for quite some time.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: ScamViruS on April 03, 2023, 06:36:07 PM
Until the full list is available, the exact account of the gamblers cannot be verified. Every business has their own secrets so the information they put out is only known to ordinary gamblers like us.

The way casinos promote promotional bonuses, it is not known whether the number of gamblers received the bonus or not due to casino confidentiality. So we have to believe the number they claim, there is no other way to verify.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: uneng on April 03, 2023, 06:37:54 PM
The truth is we can't really find out if the site is actually giving away the drops or not.
Some do post the draws which can be verified but most of the times its just out in the thin air.
Trusted and reputed sites don't cheat their users usually because one mistake can decline their user base by a huge margin.
This is why they tend to do genuine promotions only which in turn increases their user base.
It's just not possible to have assurance the process is legit, because even if the casino is transparent by showing the users' profiles who won the prize, we will never be able to make sure if those are real accounts, or accounts created by the casino itself to fake a promotion. All we have in our favour is the casino's credibility with the community and it's our decision to trust them or not.

That is why I prefer promotions which reward everyone who join it by completing a requirement, instead of joining promotions which will select only few participants to be the winners.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: CryptoHeadlineNews on April 03, 2023, 06:56:34 PM
Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
For me, I don't think that's an issue gamblers need to worry about, because in as much as such casino offers a very perfect gambling environment, fast deposit, withdrawal and a 24hrs active customer support ever always available to help users resolve issues on time, I'm totally okay with that. Because even if a casino did promise to offer a drop to 2500 gamblers and finally fulfilled its promise by sending it to the 2500 gamblers, you still won't know as there is one such tool to verify such information.
It's casinos money, and they have the right to do whatever they wish with it, in as much as they don't scam people of their funds.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fortify on April 03, 2023, 08:29:09 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

This is definitely suspicious behavior and not something you'll tend to find at a casino that offers lots of mainstream functionality. It's definitely a way to trick players into depositing more and I'd certainly steer clear of any site offering these sorts of promos. Either that, or they are raking in so much from players that they're able to throw these supposed drops back. There are a lot of psychological tricks that these sites can use to misdirect as well, like saying 1,000 players received up to 0.01 BTC free plays - a single high roller player might have got it and every other player got 0.00001. You're right, they're not audited, so nobody is going to know what they're really doing in the background.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: dothebeats on April 03, 2023, 08:35:49 PM
One thing you should know is that these casinos will always have the budget. They will always have something to fund these promotions that are coming on their platforms. If not, then they do have some serious problems on their finances. If the members of the casino are still receiving their payouts on time on top of the promotions, then that is a platform that I can trust––on their finances at least. There is a limit on my trust though, and the moment that I haven't receive the bonus or my payout, that's when I'll dip.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: ololajulo on April 03, 2023, 08:52:21 PM
In order to protect against fraud and cheating, a casino that meets all standards employs strict security measures.  They employ security personnel who are trained to detect and prevent fraudulent activities, and they use cameras and other monitoring systems to watch for suspicious behavior. It is typically required that casinos obtain licenses from the government or regulatory bodies, which outline specific rules and guidelines. Ensure fair play, transparency, and accountability, as well as that the games are not rigged in any way.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: cabron on April 03, 2023, 08:56:46 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

This is definitely suspicious behavior and not something you'll tend to find at a casino that offers lots of mainstream functionality. It's definitely a way to trick players into depositing more and I'd certainly steer clear of any site offering these sorts of promos. Either that, or they are raking in so much from players that they're able to throw these supposed drops back. There are a lot of psychological tricks that these sites can use to misdirect as well, like saying 1,000 players received up to 0.01 BTC free plays - a single high roller player might have got it and every other player got 0.00001. You're right, they're not audited, so nobody is going to know what they're really doing in the background.

Like he said there is no way of proving it since there is no way to verify as there is no list as well. But users will not suspect things like this after all it's a drop and everybody is happy to play. A promotion is funded, but we may not know all are given equally.

Casinos collect data and see the activity of users, they know who they would give more and less for some. If they see you are more addicted to Casino games, I guess the addicted ones are prone to deposit and lose more BTC so probably more drops to them.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Hispo on April 03, 2023, 08:56:52 PM
I do not see any reason why a reputable and well-known casino would need to do such things, however assuming we are talking about a relatively small casino which has not been around that much; I would say the best way to try to get information is checking the terms of the drop and promotions.

For example, if a casino claimed they were going to give away 10k$ in bonuses and if in the terms of the promotion does not mention the minimum or maximum number of winners, then it is safe to assume their staff is reserving the right to distribute the pool among those who participate.

It is a similar situation when it is announced there would be prizes distributed "up to X amount", it does not necessarily means the casino would distribute it all, but rather their are letting people know the maximum possible  amount of money they can give away in that specific promotion.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: DaNNy001 on April 03, 2023, 09:04:08 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Well I understand the point you are trying to highlight, but am pretty sure no one can actually know the truth about the bonuses given to different users in their platform apart from the actually people involved in the distribution process or the owner of the casino. Like you said the casino can actually tell lies that they have given the bonuses to a specific number and this might possibly spike other gamblers to try and see if they would be awarded same bonuses.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: aioc on April 03, 2023, 09:18:00 PM
Between transparency and protecting their users' information, they will choose the latter, casinos have features that will protect their privacy while betting so if they are qualified to receive the bonuses and the giveaways their username will not show up and it will not reflect the real information on what's on the lists, so why bother to show it.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Newlifebtc on April 03, 2023, 09:39:08 PM
You can only know the transparency of casino when you have penetrate to their site and you know the nature of things they are operating with because you cannot stand outside and I know how important or her meaningful a particular casino site is all about so I think we have two already partner within the side first before we know the important of it or conclude of casino


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Hamphser on April 03, 2023, 09:47:24 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Is this something that really matters?

As long we arent receiving any complaints and issues  been raised about not getting bonuses or whatsoever correlated to this, then it should be fine.Also, we do know that bonuses and drops arent really that
interesting at all considering about terms and conditions which arent that shocking anymore. About giving prizes and bonus drops without terms then there's no way on knowing if those are legit
players or something that part of their company but its none of our business because no matter how we do try to uncover, for sure they would really be that dumb to leave up some holes
and showing off on what they are really doing.If thats the case then lets just play and just enjoy on what we do have now.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: suzanne5223 on April 03, 2023, 09:50:13 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?
There are casinos that are always transparent with their promotion and for the record, every promotion has its requirement, and once a user achieves the request requirement such a user is eligible for the winning prize.

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?
I understand your curiosity but the casinos that always offer this promotion are making a lot of fortune. If the question was about casinos hiring influencers for hype promotion, yes that's possible but if it's about promotions that involve high prizes if the casino is reputable they always make much than enough through their game promotion.

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
There's no way people can verify if the promotion is not handled on this forum, but there's a chance to know the promo winner if the casino post the promo winner list.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 03, 2023, 09:56:38 PM
As long as the issue is solely based in drops, I don't think there are many who care, drop is a giveaway type that requires you to be in the right place at the right time, and for casinos, it is usually in their chat box that the drop happens, and it is always in a tiny amount, it is always so insignificant due to the number of persons receiving it.

As of now, I have no reason to doubt that casinos are not being genuine in terms of drops, or chat rain as some refer it as, I don't see why they should be dishonest on a tiny thing as a drop they offer to their community.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Ebede on April 03, 2023, 10:32:32 PM
There is no way you can verify that because most time the give such a big estimate so that many gamblers will think that they are giving out huge sum of amount as giveaways or bonus. This is one of the bussiness techniques these casinos uses to lure gamblers to there casinos and make more money. I feel like every other casinos also do the same to promote their business to the next level.
this is the method of casinos platform now, all this new casino platforms are using bonus to trap or bringing many people into their platform because there is no gamblers who can resist a bonus because a gambling person need what it will use to test it prediction if it will be a very big chance for it to win in gambling or not that is why bonuses us in a platform always have a very big trafficking in their platform


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: o48o on April 03, 2023, 10:33:18 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Often we can't as individuals, or least i don't know a way. But when we think it trough, i wouldn't be worried. As casinos are trading millions in a day wouldn't need to cheat. Because getting caught would mean people would talk about it. And you would need only few people to first start a doubt, and confirm such a thing could be catastrophic to the casino. And once again, they have money to pay and it's peanuts to them, so why wouldn't they pay, as at the same time it's excellent marketing tactic.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 03, 2023, 10:46:48 PM
There is no way you can verify that because most time the give such a big estimate so that many gamblers will think that they are giving out huge sum of amount as giveaways or bonus. This is one of the bussiness techniques these casinos uses to lure gamblers to there casinos and make more money. I feel like every other casinos also do the same to promote their business to the next level.
this is the method of casinos platform now, all this new casino platforms are using bonus to trap or bringing many people into their platform because there is no gamblers who can resist a bonus because a gambling person need what it will use to test it prediction if it will be a very big chance for it to win in gambling or not that is why bonuses us in a platform always have a very big trafficking in their platform
If you are an old gambler then if there are odd numbers which are really that good to be true then would really be suspicious about it and would really be have doubts on dealing with it but if you are a newbie who doesnt really have much knowledge about numbers then you would definitely be diving in without having that kind of knowledge but later on you would really be that realizing that it isnt really that worth.

Transparency is something that we cant really be able to prove out.Just like on what others been saying, we dont know on whats happening behind those monitors and the codes been programmed.
Thing here is that we do play on the reputable ones which we could somewhat assure.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Vaculin on April 03, 2023, 10:57:17 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
I don’t think being honest and transparent would matter the most for a casino. The fact that it’s their money, then they will only use it to double or triple their profits in the most possible way. Giving bonuses is not really that they are obliged to do so, but in order to attract more players, giving bonuses and promotions is what most of the casinos are doing to attract new users and players, and to retain those who have been dedicated to them since from the beginning.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Saisher on April 03, 2023, 11:26:45 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

If they are not true to their words they will lose the trust of their loyal players, if they say they are dropping these bonuses to qualified players, they have to mean it or those who are qualified and never receive anything will complain, they need not post the list because players have privacy setting to protect their account and casinos will not compromise their players' privacy in exchange for a list, sometimes these bonuses and giveaways are announced on a newsletter and kept within the community, it's not an open list that outsiders can just look up.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: AmoreJaz on April 03, 2023, 11:29:22 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
I don’t think being honest and transparent would matter the most for a casino. The fact that it’s their money, then they will only use it to double or triple their profits in the most possible way. Giving bonuses is not really that they are obliged to do so, but in order to attract more players, giving bonuses and promotions is what most of the casinos are doing to attract new users and players, and to retain those who have been dedicated to them since from the beginning.

and this is the very reason why we can't question the honesty of the casinos when it comes to their bonuses or drops. because those are just bonuses and they are just doing these on their own accord and on their own funds. just be grateful that they have this kind of perks from time to time.
as long as they are not cheating their players in terms of their winnings, i don't have any issue with how they distribute their rewards or how much of it has given to their patrons.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: noormcs5 on April 03, 2023, 11:46:14 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

People here have accounts at gambling sites and they can tell if they ever got these drops or bonuses from the gambling site ?

For me, yes the gambling sites do give away free money sometimes but that money is not so big and also the gambling sites earn too much money, giving a tiny portion back to gamblers will only gain gamblers' trust and I would call it an effective marketing technique.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: peter0425 on April 04, 2023, 12:28:36 AM
Just like all businesses mate , they use to have their own way of luring players and depositors and with all those promotions and promises?

I'm sure that there is no 100% guarantee that those are true and reliable , because as what mostly said? gambling site are here to take Money and with giving so much , I believe that it will be harder for them to gather more.


maybe all we need to check is about the game play setting if they are giving higher probability in fairness and not cheating players with good paying system.

those are the factor that we must learn and have aside from bonuses and giveaways .


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: CryptSafe on April 04, 2023, 01:19:43 AM
Just like all businesses mate , they use to have their own way of luring players and depositors and with all those promotions and promises?
I'm sure that there is no 100% guarantee that those are true and reliable , because as what mostly said? gambling site are here to take Money and with giving so much , I believe that it will be harder for them to gather more.
maybe all we need to check is about the game play setting if they are giving higher probability in fairness and not cheating players with good paying system.
those are the factor that we must learn and have aside from bonuses and giveaways .

Normally, you do not expect a casino or let us assume a business organisation looking for clients all the world to make profit to tell you their lapses. Believe me you virtually all the publicity, announcements,bonuses etc they do are all cover ups just to get at people to register with them so that their traffic would increase which they can otherwise use as a key point to also get at others who have that as a criteria to identifying with casinos population or large numbers of registered members. It is rare to see any casino that is open and transparent in their dealings. No casino wants to take chances as they are all out for your pockets and profits. So talking  about transparency and honesty in identifying with casino I would say it is a waste of time because you  would never see any casino that would come out plain to tell the real color of their vault  and how it looks like.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: traderethereum on April 04, 2023, 02:52:11 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

People here have accounts at gambling sites and they can tell if they ever got these drops or bonuses from the gambling site ?

For me, yes the gambling sites do give away free money sometimes but that money is not so big and also the gambling sites earn too much money, giving a tiny portion back to gamblers will only gain gamblers' trust and I would call it an effective marketing technique.
It will be difficult for us as gamblers to know whether the casino has dropped the prizes on all of its members or whether some still haven't received it.
But if you haven't got it and know that you deserve it, you can report it to the support service so they can give it to you.
I have received the gift several times without knowing whether I deserved it or not and it was a gift.
And I think the casino will definitely be transparent in giving these prizes to all its members and won't disappoint them.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: BenCodie on April 04, 2023, 05:17:10 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

You are probably right that they aren't actually giving away the specified amount of prizes to the amount of people that they have mentioned...and if so, there is absolutely no way to know how many of the people who received the prizes are connected with the casino itself or are accounts that belong to the casino and/or its staff. Casinos are shady, it will never be otherwise. They are built on exploiting weakness and greed out of people. You can't expect transparency from them, nor should you fully believe in the fairness of any promotions/giveaways that they offer.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 04, 2023, 05:36:48 AM
This is actually more important than most people seem to think it is. If you say you are dropping $50 000 in a promotion, but you are really only dropping say $10 000, then it is false advertising.

We live in a technological age, where all transactions can be verified (Casinos do this for every transaction, just look at your bet history) ...so it should not be impossible for them to implement something that displays the recipients of every drop that are done.  ::)

We should hold all casinos accountable for their actions, because we fund their businesses.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: len01 on April 04, 2023, 05:46:07 AM
As long as the issue is solely based in drops, I don't think there are many who care, drop is a giveaway type that requires you to be in the right place at the right time, and for casinos, it is usually in their chat box that the drop happens, and it is always in a tiny amount, it is always so insignificant due to the number of persons receiving it.

As of now, I have no reason to doubt that casinos are not being genuine in terms of drops, or chat rain as some refer it as, I don't see why they should be dishonest on a tiny thing as a drop they offer to their community.
simple explanation but easy to understand.
in small things like drops in the chatroom it becomes one of the clear proofs that the casino is fair and honest.
we don't need to think about big things that are shared by casinos like Giveaway and just take a simple example like drops that are often shared by loyal customers of certain casinos and if we count all the total drops that are given it is a large number too and proves that the casino is honest.
well, even though there is no real evidence about casino honesty, from the little things we can understand about casino honesty.

in other respects it's really about the honesty of the casino in something it distributes to its customers it doesn't really matter. it's just that when there is an event held by the casino we just have to attend and take part. if we are lucky we will get the prize but if not, it means we are not lucky. no need to think whether the casino is honest giving the prize according to the amount stated by the casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Alisha-k on April 04, 2023, 05:47:34 AM
Well, the most important thing happens to be that you're also making your money and receiving it.
Their dropping is just an added bonus to encourage you to stay with them, if the casino isn't giving, would you stay because of the dropping???


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: btc78 on April 04, 2023, 06:30:45 AM
Well, the most important thing happens to be that you're also making your money and receiving it.
Their dropping is just an added bonus to encourage you to stay with them, if the casino isn't giving, would you stay because of the dropping???
lol , there are many gamblers that does not rely in any bonuses or airdrops instead it is because the site or reliable and has bigger percentage of fairness.
though many of bonus seeker are mostly small gamblers (i am not saying that big time players are not looking for bonuses) but from what I've seen ? it is what it is .


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: tusandii on April 04, 2023, 09:58:31 AM
though many of bonus seeker are mostly small gamblers (i am not saying that big time players are not looking for bonuses) but from what I've seen ? it is what it is .
With the bonus that small gamblers can get, they have the opportunity to be able to play even longer because with the bonus they will get a few dollars or a number of free spins to continue the game.
There are also many big gamblers who are looking for bonuses, it's just that they tend to choose every available bonus, like if a bonus can provide big profits, then there is no doubt that big gamblers will chase it and it's very easy for some big gamblers to be able to fulfill the requirements of the bonus, since they have more money and of course the amount of their bet is already large.
Sometimes what is debated about bonuses is the requirements because some of the requirements are quite difficult so that not all gamblers can easily have the opportunity to claim the bonus.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: panjul07 on April 04, 2023, 12:18:23 PM
This is actually more important than most people seem to think it is. If you say you are dropping $50 000 in a promotion, but you are really only dropping say $10 000, then it is false advertising.

We live in a technological age, where all transactions can be verified (Casinos do this for every transaction, just look at your bet history) ...so it should not be impossible for them to implement something that displays the recipients of every drop that are done.  ::)

We should hold all casinos accountable for their actions, because we fund their businesses.

Frankly I dont really care about bonus drop which worth few bucks only, so I do not really care how much is actual amount being dropped by the casino.
It is just a bonus for me, I dont gamble for bonuses especially low bonus amount such as bonus drop worth few bucks.
Yes we live in a technological age, but lets say the casino provide the list of the recipients of the drop, will you trust the list?
Because if you started it with negative thinking, you may still say that the list is fake as it wont be able to be verified unlike your bet history.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Findingnemo on April 04, 2023, 01:14:06 PM
If a casino is doing such trick by giving away fake numbers then sooner or later they will get caught in some way and also the bonus amount is not really big compared to the profits they are making so it's just peanuts for them which is going to bring more users along with more profits but these are all my opinion.

From my observation many casinos award the daily, weekly and monthly bonus to the users and others in that way which can be confirmed from the one who received which we often see in their ANN as well.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: joniboini on April 04, 2023, 01:38:33 PM
We live in a technological age, where all transactions can be verified (Casinos do this for every transaction, just look at your bet history) ...so it should not be impossible for them to implement something that displays the recipients of every drop that are done.  ::)

We should hold all casinos accountable for their actions, because we fund their businesses.
I can understand your point of view. I don't think it is hard for them to implement something like that either. The question is probably what data they need to share so that others can verify it, and if the users are comfortable with their data being shared or not. On another note, whether they want to spend some time and money doing something like that is another question. For example, they can say that they already prove their trustworthiness to some extent with their verifiable gambling history or something similar, so there is no need to do that. Especially if they already have a good reputation in the community.

I don't think they will ever bother to make something like this verifiable. Judging from how most users seem to not care and just focus on whether the platform will cheat over their gamble or not, that's where they will redirect you if you ask how can they trust them.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: bettercrypto on April 04, 2023, 02:05:16 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

    Because if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Yatsan on April 04, 2023, 02:58:44 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
This won't be proven on both tendencies; they do follow what they have promised or not. Their bonuses for sure are part of their marketing strategy, on the other hand, there's nothing to lose for the players by trying to give a short earning these drops except time and effort to be eligible. With regards to platform's end, they'd assure they will get more in return from doing so and won't  allow players to just win as they like. In some instances that casinos are giving that much, for sure they studied and analyzed things as their return; will the hype bring more players or would it be really effective. Number of people beong eligible as in line with casinos' promotion would only be known if the platform chooses to do so. Therefore, this is something we don't have control with.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: piebeyb on April 04, 2023, 03:53:48 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

    Because if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.
after all OP only discussed about rain drops or bonuses for casino users, usually people like this will not focus on gambling what they are looking for is small money from rain drops or bonuses, I agree with you why we have to think about transparent casinos or not about drops and bonus, as long as the casino has a good reputation and we play it safe there in a few years why expect that.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: leonair on April 04, 2023, 03:56:36 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?
Drop is a mode where some tasks are given and the one who fulfills the tasks correctly gets some free drop rewards. But there is no guarantee that everyone will get it. Because many times user limit is given.  And those who fall within the limits.  They get the drop

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Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?
If they mentioned that 2500 people can apply for the drop then random 500 people will get the drop. Then the casino site cannot be blamed in this case. But if they don't mention it and on the other hand if they say it's a drop for 2500 people then they are guilty if they only give it to 500 people. They are doing fraud in this case.  So they can never be a trusted and reputable casino site

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How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
As far as I know all companies when they do drop distribution they provide a sheet or publish a list, where user name and wallet or username is mentioned. It is questionable how fair a distribution would be if a company kept the sheet private. So if the casino sites publish the drop winner list you can easily verify the authenticity but if it is kept private it will only be suspicious.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: maydna on April 04, 2023, 04:29:59 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

    Because if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.
That's good if you only think that you should be able to enjoy gambling because that is the goal that we should really do in playing gambling. Without thinking about enjoying gambling, we can even be dragged into gambling too deeply and can't enjoy it properly and instead, we can become addicted to gambling.

And the casino that is your place to play gambling will also try to be transparent with its community and will not do anything bad to its members. And I think as long as you can play at a casino that pays attention to its members, you can enjoy gambling and not think about anything else.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: virasisog on April 04, 2023, 04:40:51 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

    Because if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.
That's good if you only think that you should be able to enjoy gambling because that is the goal that we should really do in playing gambling. Without thinking about enjoying gambling, we can even be dragged into gambling too deeply and can't enjoy it properly and instead, we can become addicted to gambling.

And the casino that is your place to play gambling will also try to be transparent with its community and will not do anything bad to its members. And I think as long as you can play at a casino that pays attention to its members, you can enjoy gambling and not think about anything else.

Transparency is important because it builds the trust of gamblers which can affect the reputation of casinos positively. However, casinos don't reveal everything about their promotions and bonuses so it's hard to track if they're being honest about their bonus promises.
As for me, focusing on those things will only leave us with endless questions so it would be better to focus on the good services that a casino could provide. We can enjoy gambling as long as a casino is reputable and continuously provides the good features that we need.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Slow death on April 04, 2023, 05:21:13 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

well, it seems like a small thing for any casino customer to be concerned about knowing, because it is something impossible for a customer to find out about this type of information, only the casino owner and the casino employees who are more reliable and know that the their salary depends on this type of lies and manipulations and that they will be informed that the casino is adulterating the real number of people who will receive the bonus, a customer will never have access to this type of information, that's why all customers when researching about the casino reliability run to analyze things like whether or not any customers have had issues with withdrawals, KYC, deposit methods, game types, casino interface and the bonus amount and requirement

Transparency is important because it builds the trust of gamblers which can affect the reputation of casinos positively.

unfortunately it is impossible to be able to 100% investigate any casino to know if it is a very transparent casino or not, all we can investigate is whether they pay or not, whether they even give the bonus when the person complies, whether or not they have KYC. these are things that are posted on the internet by people, but I have never seen any former casino employees write an article exposing anything bad about the behavior of casinos, so we are only left with the same things as always that come from complaints from former customers

If a casino is doing such trick by giving away fake numbers then sooner or later they will get caught in some way...

casinos that do this will never be found out, that's because reliable casino employees never tell that casino X or Z promoted bonuses for 1000 people and only gave bonuses for 500 people, I don't know what criteria casinos use to hire their employees, but the fact is that the employees who know everything about the casino never open their mouths to speak ill of the casino and expose everything they know about the casino, so far this system has worked well, that's why we will never know if the casinos always tell the truth or not


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 04, 2023, 05:43:14 PM
If a casino is doing such trick by giving away fake numbers then sooner or later they will get caught in some way and also the bonus amount is not really big compared to the profits they are making so it's just peanuts for them which is going to bring more users along with more profits but these are all my opinion.

From my observation many casinos award the daily, weekly and monthly bonus to the users and others in that way which can be confirmed from the one who received which we often see in their ANN as well.
It's true what you say, if they do "cheat" as Op said then it will be at their own risk. Sooner or later they will definitely be detected cheating. And I don't think casinos that already have a very good reputation are going to do things that are going to hurt them down the road. Like you said, they're making a profit and it's a small amount of money they're putting out to fulfill something they've started. The reputation that they build actually starts with things that look small like this. The logic is that if even from small things they are not transparent, especially if it is a big thing.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: QueenVera on April 04, 2023, 05:44:35 PM
I don't think that should be a case for call of concern  right now because If weather the casino gives it to the fkrsakd numbers of persons or not, to me it doesn't matter as long as the promised bonuses is given to someone and since nothing is guaranteed, we never can tell who wins because with the exemple you gave, the casino might decide to give the bonus to the entire people and no one wins with the bonus, what I mean is that the number of persons givn the bonus doesn't really matter to me, what does matter to me is how many persons were able to win a bet with the bonuses given to them and I'm sure that giving out merits isn't a must so you don't expect a casino cheat because of bonus.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: slapper on April 04, 2023, 08:13:11 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
This won't be proven on both tendencies; they do follow what they have promised or not. Their bonuses for sure are part of their marketing strategy, on the other hand, there's nothing to lose for the players by trying to give a short earning these drops except time and effort to be eligible. With regards to platform's end, they'd assure they will get more in return from doing so and won't  allow players to just win as they like. In some instances that casinos are giving that much, for sure they studied and analyzed things as their return; will the hype bring more players or would it be really effective. Number of people beong eligible as in line with casinos' promotion would only be known if the platform chooses to do so. Therefore, this is something we don't have control with.
Look, folks, there's no clear-cut evidence on either side; they may or may not stick to their word. Their bonuses are clearly part of their advertising scheme, but it won't hurt to try for a quick buck, except for the time and effort it takes to qualify. As for the platform's end, they're only doing it to get more in return and won't let players win freely. When casinos are giving out that much, you can bet your bottom dollar they've analyzed it as their return. Will the hype bring in more players, or will it actually work? The number of eligible players depends on the casino's promotion, and we have no control over that.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: ololajulo on April 04, 2023, 08:40:46 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Often we can't as individuals, or least i don't know a way. But when we think it trough, i wouldn't be worried. As casinos are trading millions in a day wouldn't need to cheat. Because getting caught would mean people would talk about it. And you would need only few people to first start a doubt, and confirm such a thing could be catastrophic to the casino. And once again, they have money to pay and it's peanuts to them, so why wouldn't they pay, as at the same time it's excellent marketing tactic.
With all these factors in mind, I don't discount the possibility of casino fraud, but if they are caught, they could face significant penalties, fines, and even lose their license to operate. Besides litigation, cheating casinos can also suffer significant reputational damage. If customers believe that they have been cheated, they are unlikely to return,


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Bushdark on April 04, 2023, 08:44:40 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

    Because if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.
Gambling on casino where we can that we can always get to complain when we have problem is better than gambling on a casino where it will be difficult for us to complain or have a talk with the team behind the casino. Gambling is not supposed to be risky when we are gambling with casinos that have the plan or there investors in there mind. We need to make sure that we know what we are doing or else we may keep making mistakes Everytime especially when using a wrong casinos that would never mind taking our money from us.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 04, 2023, 08:48:01 PM
Just like all businesses mate , they use to have their own way of luring players and depositors and with all those promotions and promises?

I'm sure that there is no 100% guarantee that those are true and reliable , because as what mostly said? gambling site are here to take Money and with giving so much , I believe that it will be harder for them to gather more.


maybe all we need to check is about the game play setting if they are giving higher probability in fairness and not cheating players with good paying system.

those are the factor that we must learn and have aside from bonuses and giveaways .
It's obviously a known fact that all the promotions and bonuses that casinos create are to lure more players towards their casino so that they can earn more money when those gamblers lose money, and I'm positive that they can pretty easily afford to give away that much money to players eligible for the bonuses but the transparency can sometimes be questioned as said by OP.

The giveaways, bonuses, and promotions that are given individually are obviously not rigged but the general public can never know if they have really done what they promised if it's something like a random drop for a certain number of players.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: maydna on April 04, 2023, 09:22:12 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

    Because if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.
That's good if you only think that you should be able to enjoy gambling because that is the goal that we should really do in playing gambling. Without thinking about enjoying gambling, we can even be dragged into gambling too deeply and can't enjoy it properly and instead, we can become addicted to gambling.

And the casino that is your place to play gambling will also try to be transparent with its community and will not do anything bad to its members. And I think as long as you can play at a casino that pays attention to its members, you can enjoy gambling and not think about anything else.

Transparency is important because it builds the trust of gamblers which can affect the reputation of casinos positively. However, casinos don't reveal everything about their promotions and bonuses so it's hard to track if they're being honest about their bonus promises.
As for me, focusing on those things will only leave us with endless questions so it would be better to focus on the good services that a casino could provide. We can enjoy gambling as long as a casino is reputable and continuously provides the good features that we need.
And so far, I think the casinos we use as places to gamble have tried to always be transparent with their members. Maybe the casinos don't disclose everything about promotions and bonuses but at least the casinos have given the best they can to their members. We won't be able to enjoy gambling if we only focus on things we don't know for sure and even if we try to look for them, maybe we won't find the answers either. So it's better for us to enjoy gambling and take the promotions and bonuses we want.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: CryptSafe on April 04, 2023, 09:30:18 PM
if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.

You see this is the particular emphasis been placed by gamblers as a basis for counting a casino as honest and transparent. It is no news any more that when a gambler wins big, the casino for which the payment should be made would start acting funny suspending and in some cases banning accounts of gamblers with lies of them cheating, opening multiple accounts, and lots more. It is obvious that these are the problems of casinos; honest and transparency when s casino is in such a situation, it is possible that they would loose more of their members as nobody wants to waste their time and resources on anything that would give them much stress coupled with poor customer service care.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: erep on April 04, 2023, 09:43:33 PM
And so far, I think the casinos we use as places to gamble have tried to always be transparent with their members. Maybe the casinos don't disclose everything about promotions and bonuses but at least the casinos have given the best they can to their members. We won't be able to enjoy gambling if we only focus on things we don't know for sure and even if we try to look for them, maybe we won't find the answers either. So it's better for us to enjoy gambling and take the promotions and bonuses we want.
We don't need to spend time thinking about it because until whenever we will never know unless the casino publishes a drop or bonus distribution list in the telegram group or posts on a Twitter account, but for top platforms we will never doubt the team because they will definitely distribute to all members according to the drop recipient quota or bonus. We don't need to know because it won't be useful for us to know and it's better to enjoy gambling and increase the chances of winning your bet.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: DoublerHunter on April 04, 2023, 10:04:45 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

    Because if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.
after all OP only discussed about rain drops or bonuses for casino users, usually people like this will not focus on gambling what they are looking for is small money from rain drops or bonuses, I agree with you why we have to think about transparent casinos or not about drops and bonus, as long as the casino has a good reputation and we play it safe there in a few years why expect that.
^This is right and I agree with you.
A good reputation means a good casino because reputation cannot buy anyone, it should be gained by the casino through its long period of service without any major issues. Most trusted casino don't usually lure their users through their promotion it should be on their services and a good feature has why they stayed. And the last one, of course, every bet could be publicly verified.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: ultrloa on April 04, 2023, 10:10:32 PM
I play here on the cryptocurrency gambling platform, I don't think about whether a casino is transparent to its community. Because all I ever think about is that I should be able to enjoy gambling the day I decide I want to play.

    Because if you don't have any problems with a casino when you win from time to time on their platform and you can withdraw properly,
then I think that you can think that the casino you are gambling in is well run.
after all OP only discussed about rain drops or bonuses for casino users, usually people like this will not focus on gambling what they are looking for is small money from rain drops or bonuses, I agree with you why we have to think about transparent casinos or not about drops and bonus, as long as the casino has a good reputation and we play it safe there in a few years why expect that.
^This is right and I agree with you.
A good reputation means a good casino because reputation cannot buy anyone, it should be gained by the casino through its long period of service without any major issues. Most trusted casino don't usually lure their users through their promotion it should be on their services and a good feature has why they stayed. And the last one, of course, every bet could be publicly verified.


Reputation is earned for years and casino invest with that for so long so that they can earn the trust of people. So for sure they will not do crazy things that can destroy their name since for sure this will also lead to collapse of their business. So much better to spend our time to long time running reputable casino since this could make us more safer from scam as well we can say that they offer fair games to us. Also most of those reputable casino always care for their community and they give attention on public opinion and suggestions.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Dunamisx on April 04, 2023, 10:28:53 PM
Since most of the casinos were out to make business and serve gamblers right, i believe they will try every possible best to make this their major target through customers satisfaction, if they aren't reliable or being honest, gamblers will not refer them, use them or maintain a loyalty patronage with them anyone, so many will like to keep to their integrity with the gamblers in other to keep running except for those whose sole agenda was to scam gamblers and attack them by depriving them some rights.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Bitinity on April 05, 2023, 12:47:58 AM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

Do we really need to verify and know all the recipients of the bonua drop? If you get the list, what will yo do next then? Will you ask all the users in the list to make sure that they do really receive the bonus drop so you can conclude that the amount is real? Imho what you need to do is to trust the casino, if you feel there are some suspicious things in the casino then you can simply leave the casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: BobK71 on April 05, 2023, 06:24:18 AM
Since most of the casinos were out to make business and serve gamblers right, i believe they will try every possible best to make this their major target through customers satisfaction, if they aren't reliable or being honest, gamblers will not refer them, use them or maintain a loyalty patronage with them anyone, so many will like to keep to their integrity with the gamblers in other to keep running except for those whose sole agenda was to scam gamblers and attack them by depriving them some rights.
If a gambling site engages in such activities, they will fail to qualify the site for the gamblers. Gamblers will lose trust in them for a small amount of money and their reputation will be greatly damaged gambling authorities would never expect this situation. Established casino platforms will never want to take this risk. But if it becomes normal for a site to keep this secret then gamblers will have nothing to do. Furthermore, a gambler's slightest doubt can lead to a big loss for that particular platform.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: maydna on April 05, 2023, 11:54:45 AM
And so far, I think the casinos we use as places to gamble have tried to always be transparent with their members. Maybe the casinos don't disclose everything about promotions and bonuses but at least the casinos have given the best they can to their members. We won't be able to enjoy gambling if we only focus on things we don't know for sure and even if we try to look for them, maybe we won't find the answers either. So it's better for us to enjoy gambling and take the promotions and bonuses we want.
We don't need to spend time thinking about it because until whenever we will never know unless the casino publishes a drop or bonus distribution list in the telegram group or posts on a Twitter account, but for top platforms we will never doubt the team because they will definitely distribute to all members according to the drop recipient quota or bonus. We don't need to know because it won't be useful for us to know and it's better to enjoy gambling and increase the chances of winning your bet.
Even though the casino publishes a drop or bonus distribution list, we still don't know the total number of people who have received the drop or bonus. And that trusted casino will never lie to their customers by giving them fake info. And casinos know how to treat their customers so they can keep playing at their casinos and not doubt the performance of the casinos. And that's what makes a trusted casino remain transparent to its customers because a trusted casino must be able to maintain the trust of its customers and not disappoint them.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Apocollapse on April 05, 2023, 12:03:35 PM
If a gambling site engages in such activities, they will fail to qualify the site for the gamblers. Gamblers will lose trust in them for a small amount of money and their reputation will be greatly damaged gambling authorities would never expect this situation. Established casino platforms will never want to take this risk. But if it becomes normal for a site to keep this secret then gamblers will have nothing to do. Furthermore, a gambler's slightest doubt can lead to a big loss for that particular platform.
But there's no way to know right? then how you can know if the casino engage in such activities? it's different if the casino announce the winner in twitter giveaway and when you dig the winners accounts, you don't find if the accounts were fulfill the requirement in order to be eligible.

An internal giveaway make you have no way to check it, what you can do is accept and think the casino already being honest.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 05, 2023, 12:16:52 PM
Well, the most important thing happens to be that you're also making your money and receiving it.
Their dropping is just an added bonus to encourage you to stay with them, if the casino isn't giving, would you stay because of the dropping???

That is not the meaning behind this thread.... Yes, some people still get some FREE money, but the point is, so much more people should have received that money too. Let's say there are 20 000 people competing for 2500 drops..... and a casino says it is giving for 2500 people, but they are actually just giving it to 500 people, then 2000 people are not getting it. (What if you tried, but you are number 501... and you should have received it, but the casino are not honest and transparent)

This is also a break in the trust relationship between the casino and the gamblers, if they are doing that. It takes only one honest whistleblower to expose practices like this... or a skilled white hat hacker to show other gamblers what they are doing.  ;)


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on April 05, 2023, 12:25:14 PM
Since most of the casinos were out to make business and serve gamblers right, i believe they will try every possible best to make this their major target through customers satisfaction, if they aren't reliable or being honest, gamblers will not refer them, use them or maintain a loyalty patronage with them anyone, so many will like to keep to their integrity with the gamblers in other to keep running except for those whose sole agenda was to scam gamblers and attack them by depriving them some rights.
If a gambling site engages in such activities, they will fail to qualify the site for the gamblers. Gamblers will lose trust in them for a small amount of money and their reputation will be greatly damaged gambling authorities would never expect this situation. Established casino platforms will never want to take this risk. But if it becomes normal for a site to keep this secret then gamblers will have nothing to do. Furthermore, a gambler's slightest doubt can lead to a big loss for that particular platform.
What @Dunamisx explained is an excellent point. It's a thing to attract a customer but another thing to keep them with you. The satisfactory services of a casino are key, and they should be fair in all their dealings. The internet is viral these days and no casino should see it as business as usual in terms of cheating. They should be up and doing and know that they can never go scot-free scamming people all about.

It will only ridicule them in the end and they might lose their business to better ones.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: AicecreaME on April 05, 2023, 01:00:53 PM
We can't really know how transparent these casinos are because in the first place, they have the option to not disclose their operations to the public because it might possess risks and consequences on their end. We can't really blame them for not sharing everything because not everything are meant to be shared after all. Some things are confidential, most especially those things that involves their system and algorithms because if ever the public will have the access to those important information, it could expose the vulnerabilities of the website which can be abused by other players. Additionally, the competitors might even get an idea on how to counterattack their competitor casino because of too much transparency offered.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Nrcewker on April 05, 2023, 01:03:20 PM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: joniboini on April 05, 2023, 01:37:06 PM
This is also a break in the trust relationship between the casino and the gamblers, if they are doing that. It takes only one honest whistleblower to expose practices like this... or a skilled white hat hacker to show other gamblers what they are doing.  ;)
I think they can use this same argument to answer your question. Since doing something like this can damage their reputation and potentially make them lose customers, there is no need for them to cheat their customers. Plus it is easy and probably hard to prevent since anyone can be a white hat hacker even though they seem so greedy. Not to mention the cost to cover any giveaway is probably not that big compared to all of their expense.

Obviously, they can simply lie and the owner can simply lock out any access to sensitive data for his workers. Not the best answer to hear, but probably the one that will likely be given if you ask them directly. Snce they probably won't give any data about this, if you're suspicious about something like this, the only thing that you can do is probably do the data digging yourself or hire a white hat hacker to do so.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: pawanjain on April 05, 2023, 02:10:22 PM
The truth is we can't really find out if the site is actually giving away the drops or not.
Some do post the draws which can be verified but most of the times its just out in the thin air.
Trusted and reputed sites don't cheat their users usually because one mistake can decline their user base by a huge margin.
This is why they tend to do genuine promotions only which in turn increases their user base.
It's just not possible to have assurance the process is legit, because even if the casino is transparent by showing the users' profiles who won the prize, we will never be able to make sure if those are real accounts, or accounts created by the casino itself to fake a promotion. All we have in our favour is the casino's credibility with the community and it's our decision to trust them or not.

That is why I prefer promotions which reward everyone who join it by completing a requirement, instead of joining promotions which will select only few participants to be the winners.

But even if you complete a requirement then there's no assurance that the promotion is legit or not.
As you said, it's just on the community whether to trust the site or not.
This is why there are only very few sites which have gained the trust of community.
So whichever promotions they launch would turn out to be genuine.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Agbe on April 05, 2023, 02:32:36 PM
Does it have to be transparent?
The casinos decide what to do with their own money and who to give bonuses to. They want to make more money, who are we to judge them? ;D The gambling businesses aren't charity foundations, after all. They don't have any social and moral obligations(sad, but true).
I'm pretty sure the casinos will give "drops" and bonuses to the most hardcore gamblers, in order to keep them spending money on the casino.
There's no point giving away money and bonuses to new players, who might play once or twice and leave the casino after a while.

I agreed with you but they have to fulfill their promises of the total amount of drops and the bonuses. That is a faithful service to humanity, which sees from the spiritual aspect of life. No casino is 100% truthful, as the op said, a casino might promised to give a bonus of 2500 gamblers probably with $300 each, as davis196 also made it clear, we not to judge them, the money and the number of people will be determined by the company whom to give. And if all the 2500 what to take the drop them they must be active gamblers in the site and not passive gamblers in the casino site. The total number of people that received the drop or the bonus would not be known because we don't know how many active gamblers are there in the site.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: panjul07 on April 05, 2023, 02:35:50 PM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.

Great points especially about the privacy policy of the users as well as the casino policy about their marketing strategy.
If I have to guess, OP is referring to the bonus drop in Stake telegram group and maybe he failed so many times to claim the bonus code because he is too late.
Perhaps because of this, he started to think that the given amount is not the same as what is announced.
As most stake's players know, most of their bonus codes is fully claimed within minutes (even less than a minute most of the time).


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: tusandii on April 05, 2023, 03:28:23 PM
But there's no way to know right? then how you can know if the casino engage in such activities? it's different if the casino announce the winner in twitter giveaway and when you dig the winners accounts, you don't find if the accounts were fulfill the requirement in order to be eligible.

An internal giveaway make you have no way to check it, what you can do is accept and think the casino already being honest.
Gamblers will never be able to find out what the casino is doing and whether this activity is really happening because there is no door for gamblers to go deeper to see all about casino activity unless gamblers can hack into the casino system, it might be easy for them to find out.
After all, casinos will always keep a tight lid on what they are actually doing because if an error occurs it can damage the trust of gamblers and damage the reputation of a casino.
Every giveaway that is carried out by the casino, no one can know whether the winner actually meets the requirements or not because only the casino itself knows everything that has determined the conditions of the giveaway.
We don't even know who actually won the giveaway because every detailed information from customers will be kept and kept secret by the casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Peanutswar on April 05, 2023, 04:02:05 PM
Those bonuses sometimes have their requirements before the players redeem those rewards, and we know how the gambling industry works, there's a winner and there's a loser thats all, in terms of marketing strategy of promoting there are a lot of different ways today so the player will not comply with those rewards requirements will not a receive a reward to become fair for the players who really commit in the game. Those are just a small portion of their marketing strategy to gain more players, gambling casino has tons of budget just to keep their platform growing.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Findingnemo on April 05, 2023, 04:15:36 PM

If a casino is doing such trick by giving away fake numbers then sooner or later they will get caught in some way...

casinos that do this will never be found out, that's because reliable casino employees never tell that casino X or Z promoted bonuses for 1000 people and only gave bonuses for 500 people, I don't know what criteria casinos use to hire their employees, but the fact is that the employees who know everything about the casino never open their mouths to speak ill of the casino and expose everything they know about the casino, so far this system has worked well, that's why we will never know if the casinos always tell the truth or not
Most of the cryptocurrency casinos are operated with less number of employees so the operators choose them only when they are trusted enough but any casino will take such risk which will end their money making business one day when they get caught probably via ex employee cause the competition in crypto casino is getting higher so as far as my assumption they won't give fake numbers just to attract customers.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: khaled0111 on April 05, 2023, 09:47:16 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it?
This won't solve the problem because even if the casino publish the list of winners, there is no way to verify that those winners are real users and not just bots or fake usernames.
To make it as transparent as possible, the casino can partner with a reputable streamer and ask him to draw the winners on a live stream or use a provably fair system like giving each user a ticket number and use the blockchain (transactions/blocks hashes) to determine the winners.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fatunad on April 05, 2023, 09:56:29 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it?
This won't solve the problem because even if the casino publish the list of winners, there is no way to verify that those winners are real users and not just bots or fake usernames.
To make it as transparent as possible, the casino can partner with a reputable streamer and ask him to draw the winners on a live stream or use a provably fair system like giving each user a ticket number and use the blockchain (transactions/blocks hashes) to determine the winners.
There's no way of verifying those players whether those are legit or not, thing here is that they do really give that fair service to those who do gamble out.Somehow it do really sucks
when you do know that you are been deceived or believing into something which it isnt really just that fair at all but as i said earlier which there's no way to confirm up these things.
This is why it would be always suggestable that we should really be getting involved into those sites or places which does have that most recognition
or having that reputation.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Cling18 on April 05, 2023, 10:02:43 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it?
This won't solve the problem because even if the casino publish the list of winners, there is no way to verify that those winners are real users and not just bots or fake usernames.
To make it as transparent as possible, the casino can partner with a reputable streamer and ask him to draw the winners on a live stream or use a provably fair system like giving each user a ticket number and use the blockchain (transactions/blocks hashes) to determine the winners.
There's no way of verifying those players whether those are legit or not, thing here is that they do really give that fair service to those who do gamble out.Somehow it do really sucks
when you do know that you are been deceived or believing into something which it isnt really just that fair at all but as i said earlier which there's no way to confirm up these things.
This is why it would be always suggestable that we should really be getting involved into those sites or places which does have the most recognition
or having that reputation.

If a casino is transparent, it would have a strong and reliable community that can prove whether the result of real or not. I don't think casinos will provide transparency regarding the winners and it's very rare nowadays. However, I like the idea of having a trusted streamer who would do the draw live for transparency. Through it, gamblers could see transparency and legitimacy which can also increase the reputation rate of a casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 05, 2023, 10:13:50 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it?
This won't solve the problem because even if the casino publish the list of winners, there is no way to verify that those winners are real users and not just bots or fake usernames.
To make it as transparent as possible, the casino can partner with a reputable streamer and ask him to draw the winners on a live stream or use a provably fair system like giving each user a ticket number and use the blockchain (transactions/blocks hashes) to determine the winners.
Hmm, I think you guys are taking the drop features on casinos too far, one thing I believe is that the drop which happens in casinos chat box was never designed to be something really important, or a kind of giveaway that should really matter, drops are designed as a way of rewarding users who spend their time on the casinos chat box helping other and probably sharing ideas on what to bet and game to play, it is also a way of encouraging other users to become and stay active in the chat too.

Taking the drop to YouTube or which ever platform the stream is to happen, will simply kill the purpose to which the drop was introduced in the first place.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: wxa7115 on April 06, 2023, 05:10:51 AM
Well, the most important thing happens to be that you're also making your money and receiving it.
Their dropping is just an added bonus to encourage you to stay with them, if the casino isn't giving, would you stay because of the dropping???

That is not the meaning behind this thread.... Yes, some people still get some FREE money, but the point is, so much more people should have received that money too. Let's say there are 20 000 people competing for 2500 drops..... and a casino says it is giving for 2500 people, but they are actually just giving it to 500 people, then 2000 people are not getting it. (What if you tried, but you are number 501... and you should have received it, but the casino are not honest and transparent)

This is also a break in the trust relationship between the casino and the gamblers, if they are doing that. It takes only one honest whistleblower to expose practices like this... or a skilled white hat hacker to show other gamblers what they are doing.  ;)
And it is because of this I think legitimate casinos do not follow this practice, if it was ever found out that a casino was promising a number of bonuses but the gamblers which actually received it were many times lower this will hit their reputation, as it is a very dishonest practice.

And while there is no way for us to corroborate the numbers are accurate, it would be easy for a disgruntled employee to expose them if this was the case, putting at risk a business worth millions over a few dollars.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Solosanz on April 06, 2023, 05:29:14 AM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
User's privacy policy? what about Freebitco.in where they mention the winner who get a Lambo? what about casino where they will give a list of top 10 highest wagering competition? what about casino ask you to tweet their post and mention your username you used in their casino to claim the giveaway? don't you think these aren't privacy matter?

There's no mention if publicly display the list of winners is violating the user's privacy policy, it's different if the casino share your ID card to unknown user.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 06, 2023, 05:36:58 AM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.

What violation of the user's privacy? The real identity of the users are not displayed, but simply their casino username.  ::) That way, people can see if the correct amount of people are claiming these bonuses and that it is all "legit".

So, caring for other users are wrong? I am also doing this for selfish reasons, because I also miss out on a lot of these drops that are gone in a few seconds. The question are... are they gone so fast, because a much smaller amount of drops are done... than were advertised or promoted?


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: wiss19 on April 06, 2023, 08:39:40 AM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
Though you are right that they cannot possibly publish a list with the actual winners of a giveaway or bonus drop, I don't find anything wrong in discussing how they do it or whether they can be transparent about it or not. I also agree that it shouldn't really be much of a concern for all the users if they got their drop, but those who didn't get anything will surely get this question in their mind whether they actually paid all the prizes or not.

The fairness of the games is surely something gamblers should be more concerned about rather than the bonuses given out to a certain number of gamblers. If the casino is transparent about their games and gameplay, they must be trusted despite the fact that they aren't transparent with giveaways or bonuses.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: sunsilk on April 06, 2023, 10:10:52 AM
If a casino is transparent, it would have a strong and reliable community that can prove whether the result of real or not. I don't think casinos will provide transparency regarding the winners and it's very rare nowadays. However, I like the idea of having a trusted streamer who would do the draw live for transparency. Through it, gamblers could see transparency and legitimacy which can also increase the reputation rate of a casino.
They won't give that detail on how they have picked those winners and users eligible for the drops they will provide. Well, having it livestreamed will still create some doubts on users that won't be picked on those draws even it is for the sake of transparency and they might say that all are scripted and still not transparent.

On this, whatever the casino chooses in their selection or gives the hint how they are picking and show how transparent they are, there will still be those that won't be satisfied with their methods.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: danherbias07 on April 06, 2023, 10:21:12 AM
Sometimes I do question this too but it's a drop or what they call a "rain" so I doubt some gamblers will create a ruckus out of it. I even question those who receive the drop, maybe because I have not experienced it yet. Questions like, they may be part of the team or dummies of the team behind the company.
But as I said, I won't waste time questioning it because they are freebies. It's like a charity that cannot be questioned by the government.
Maybe if I receive it once, I will believe it. Regarding the number of the sent rain, now that's a more difficult question and we might never know unless someone who does it will come out and share the list.



Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: xSkylarx on April 06, 2023, 11:03:15 AM
That is really the problem, but they always provide ID numbers or, like, names for those who have one as part of transparency, but others will just email them, which is the problem. How do we know if they really select 500 winners on it? Well, that's really on casinos, and let's just say that we've gotten lucky if we've been selected as winners. Trust is really what we are holding onto for this, as it is their event and we have nothing to do with it; we just participate in it to have a chance to win.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: adzino on April 06, 2023, 11:22:55 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
That's a valid point you have there. It's true that not all casinos are fully transparent or honest. Like most of the "new" casinos that pop up now and then, likely scam their users. And other casinos that has reputation for giving away lots of free bonus and drops, are most likely not transparent at all. I wouldn't say they are lying, but I can say for sure that they are actually giving away the drops. They could easily make a list and show the top users that will receive the drop, but they refuse to do so. Also, they can "exaggerate" the amount they are giving away, and no one will know how much they actually gave. But casinos with good reputation and well established in the community are unlikely to do false drops.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Huppercase on April 06, 2023, 12:01:42 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

I think the casinos have ways they do detect multiple accounts and if they want to aidrop bonuses to the players, they will do so in order of deposits, withdrwals and more preferentila traetments to people that play with large amount of money or players that have much money they have use to play from their bet history.

Casinos that have KYC will find this very easy to do because when people register on casinos, they use male and female to identify gender, they also sometimes use age and also mobile numbers, they can also use the region to identify people. So, if they want to airdrop for people, they can choose regions and do it orderly and if it is a non Kyc casino, they can use ID number in for each player ascending or in descending order.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: 348Judah on April 06, 2023, 12:55:33 PM
There are many honest casinos that were in operation and gamblers enjoying every bit from their services, there's nothing to worry about whenever a gambler is at the right hand, but some casino operators themselves are nit too serious in what they do, they left many things undone for gamblers to find a means of trusting them, they also fail to build a secured network for their casino website, they offer little to maintain their casino running and expect many from it in return, in this case the gamblers suffers alot from such casinos and everything later turns scam about the casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Peanutswar on April 06, 2023, 01:49:47 PM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.

Actually, there's no bearing with that in terms of privacy because the gambling casino only shows the information of the player is the username and not all of the information such as the submitted KYC if there's any, date of birth, and email address of the player unless those are includes in the rewards system too that they need to show their account details. Also, the casino must need to show their transparency to their players so theres no doubt of the players on their platform.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: nimogsm on April 06, 2023, 02:11:14 PM
This is a good question. I believe in the results of the draws if I see the list of participants and winners and when the players themselves can confirm their victory.For me, the indicator of honesty and transparency in the prize draw is video proof through a random org or using a service similar to this.Well,a complete list of participants is a prerequisite.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: darewaller on April 06, 2023, 04:15:25 PM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
What violation of the user's privacy? The real identity of the users are not displayed, but simply their casino username.  ::) That way, people can see if the correct amount of people are claiming these bonuses and that it is all "legit".

So, caring for other users are wrong? I am also doing this for selfish reasons, because I also miss out on a lot of these drops that are gone in a few seconds. The question are... are they gone so fast, because a much smaller amount of drops are done... than were advertised or promoted?
If they display those usernames, there will still be doubts and what if most of those accounts are only owned by the same gambler? It is possible if the site don't have a KYC. We must not put all the blame to the casino owners on why the bonus is decreasing but some unfair gamblers are also responsible for this.

On some casinos, they have added requirements to be able to claim a bonus drop like a user needs to wager 3k USD. They can also add a captcha to make sure that only a real person is claiming those bonuses. If a casino is known to be trusted, I think what they are saying are true but if you can't believe them then better not waste time and money. There are still lots of fishes in the sea.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Jody.Drummer on April 06, 2023, 05:33:03 PM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
What violation of the user's privacy? The real identity of the users are not displayed, but simply their casino username.  ::) That way, people can see if the correct amount of people are claiming these bonuses and that it is all "legit".

So, caring for other users are wrong? I am also doing this for selfish reasons, because I also miss out on a lot of these drops that are gone in a few seconds. The question are... are they gone so fast, because a much smaller amount of drops are done... than were advertised or promoted?
If they display those usernames, there will still be doubts and what if most of those accounts are only owned by the same gambler? It is possible if the site don't have a KYC. We must not put all the blame to the casino owners on why the bonus is decreasing but some unfair gamblers are also responsible for this.

On some casinos, they have added requirements to be able to claim a bonus drop like a user needs to wager 3k USD. They can also add a captcha to make sure that only a real person is claiming those bonuses. If a casino is known to be trusted, I think what they are saying are true but if you can't believe them then better not waste time and money. There are still lots of fishes in the sea.
True, this goes back to our trust in the casinos that we visit and play there. If we believe in them, I'm sure there's no doubt for us to suspect the casino, but if we don't really believe, then we will correct even the slightest mistake that is not to our liking to get something we want. In this case I am pretty sure that the casino will pay the bills for what they have started, moreover it is a reputable casino that has a high level of trust. They definitely don't want their good image to be tarnished with the meager money they promised. Also keep in mind, they have a greater income than that.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Casdinyard on April 06, 2023, 06:54:08 PM
the thing iis, in this industry you have to assume that every Casino is being true to you and are not messing with your wins or whatnot. i get it, losing a ton of games is not going to he the best feeling especially if it's something you hold on to. The thing with casinos is that they are always out to get you whether they are being genuine or are really tweaking your games. So by that logic alone uou could safely assume that that the legality of a casino does not matter as long as they can cater to customers. Altogether if you think uou're being taken advantaged/scammed by the casino, it's a telltale sign that the gambling site you're in is disingenious.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: fullhdpixel on April 06, 2023, 07:14:03 PM
Even if they decide to publish a list for everyone to see how would you confirm that the list was not made up?
The whole casino business works on trust the same we the bank work, everyone just hopes that they won't try to scam us (at least the ones that have a high reputation, not those new scam casinos everywhere ).
And since we are dealing with the finance of other people it won't be reasonable to expose that to the public, having to complete KYC was a bit of a hassle for some people not to imagine sharing their balance in a casino with the. Public.
Maybe they can provide the link of those users for us to check and their accounts must be public for us to see their activities. By there we can decide if they are a real user and not bots or just created by the owner. If the gambling site has a chabtbox and a forum and we hang out on them often, we will also be familiar with the users on their site.

I am not really a fan of bonuses or giveaways who are based on a pool because I also thought that there might be manipulations happening around. Who invented this anyway? I hope gambling companies stop using this and just give the reward the other way. I am fine with giving a bonus based on VIP level.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 06, 2023, 07:18:45 PM
the thing iis, in this industry you have to assume that every Casino is being true to you and are not messing with your wins or whatnot. i get it, losing a ton of games is not going to he the best feeling especially if it's something you hold on to. The thing with casinos is that they are always out to get you whether they are being genuine or are really tweaking your games. So by that logic alone uou could safely assume that that the legality of a casino does not matter as long as they can cater to customers. Altogether if you think uou're being taken advantaged/scammed by the casino, it's a telltale sign that the gambling site you're in is disingenious.
Yeah, personal, I feel that if we all were to start accessing casinos on the account of knowing whether they are cheating on gamblers or not, it is possible that we all might end up Not gambling, or end up having issues with casinos because every loss might be likened to cheat.
Best thing is to choose a casino one trust and continue to trust that they are genuine in all their dealings, this will help us to gamble with peace of mind, knowing that when we gamble and lose, it's not because the casino is cheating us, but because we are just simply out of luck at that time or day.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: coupable on April 06, 2023, 07:36:08 PM
Trust remains the most important thing that connects casinos to users. And casinos strive to build that confidence by achieving several goals that are the criteria for any user to choose from. With thousands of casinos available, it can be difficult to ensure that your well-being and pockets are safeguarded.
To determine whether a casino is reliable or not, most important points that can be focused on to choose a reliable casino is that it is a licensed casino because it is very dangerous to use an unlicensed casino. Also, the payment system should be effective on the casino, allowing for smooth withdrawal and deposit transactions. There is another point that is no less important regarding bonus campaigns, which is that this bonus is achievable.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: madnessteat on April 06, 2023, 07:53:36 PM
^

Believe me, the casino license is much less important thing than the reputation, because the license is needed only because it is a requirement of the regulators, like KYC and AML.

But the reputation is earned over the years and is the best indicator of a casino in relation to customers, and in absolutely all plans.

Many gamblers do not care whether a casino has a license, but the reputation is not.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: coolcoinz on April 06, 2023, 07:59:16 PM
This is a good question. I believe in the results of the draws if I see the list of participants and winners and when the players themselves can confirm their victory.For me, the indicator of honesty and transparency in the prize draw is video proof through a random org or using a service similar to this.Well,a complete list of participants is a prerequisite.

Lying doesn't get you anywhere. If they lie and somebody finds out by tracing their addresses they're going to get huge backlash. Similar things were done before especially with charity scams where people claimed that if you buy something the profits will go to charity and they were really sending 10% to charity and keeping the rest.
FTX was donating to both republicans and democrats and it was traced. I've also read that Binance was sending money to Russia during the war, don't know how much of it is true but there are people actively tracing coins as we speak so lying about it can bite you back sooner or later.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: nimogsm on April 06, 2023, 08:38:13 PM
This is a good question. I believe in the results of the draws if I see the list of participants and winners and when the players themselves can confirm their victory.For me, the indicator of honesty and transparency in the prize draw is video proof through a random org or using a service similar to this.Well,a complete list of participants is a prerequisite.

Lying doesn't get you anywhere. If they lie and somebody finds out by tracing their addresses they're going to get huge backlash. Similar things were done before especially with charity scams where people claimed that if you buy something the profits will go to charity and they were really sending 10% to charity and keeping the rest.
FTX was donating to both republicans and democrats and it was traced. I've also read that Binance was sending money to Russia during the war, don't know how much of it is true but there are people actively tracing coins as we speak so lying about it can bite you back sooner or later.
You are absolutely right, this is true. Most charitable foundations keep a part of the funds for operating expenses, I think this is not a big secret and in most countries charitable foundations are not taxed at all and this is just a paradise for scammers to launder their funds. Almost every rich and a public person has his own charitable foundation, and I'm sure that not just like that, but in order to hide part of his funds.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fatunad on April 06, 2023, 08:44:15 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it?
This won't solve the problem because even if the casino publish the list of winners, there is no way to verify that those winners are real users and not just bots or fake usernames.
To make it as transparent as possible, the casino can partner with a reputable streamer and ask him to draw the winners on a live stream or use a provably fair system like giving each user a ticket number and use the blockchain (transactions/blocks hashes) to determine the winners.
There's no way of verifying those players whether those are legit or not, thing here is that they do really give that fair service to those who do gamble out.Somehow it do really sucks
when you do know that you are been deceived or believing into something which it isnt really just that fair at all but as i said earlier which there's no way to confirm up these things.
This is why it would be always suggestable that we should really be getting involved into those sites or places which does have the most recognition
or having that reputation.

If a casino is transparent, it would have a strong and reliable community that can prove whether the result of real or not. I don't think casinos will provide transparency regarding the winners and it's very rare nowadays. However, I like the idea of having a trusted streamer who would do the draw live for transparency. Through it, gamblers could see transparency and legitimacy which can also increase the reputation rate of a casino.
For those promotional things then it would be normal nor not really be that shocking that they would be showing off winners out of those spinning tables or would be done via random selector or something like that.
There would be always those people who do really have doubts when it comes to full transparency on which a gambling site could give out because no one really knows on whats happening behind when it comes on
choosing up the winners or something like that.Good thing that we could always be able to see when it comes to popularity where people would be having their the same impressions which they do
end up on a site where they would really be hanging out.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: alastantiger on April 06, 2023, 09:15:45 PM
No one can tell how honest and transparent they are.
But the truth is that I don't expect them to be 100% honest or transparent because it's gambling.
The casinos make their decisions and award bonuses  to whom they want to.
Bonuses aside the welcome bonuses, I feel are mainly given to the core gamblers who are part of a loyalty scheme, those who the casino sees to be spending more money and time on casino games not just a random gamblers.
I think that casinos are honest and transparent but to some extents.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Finestream on April 06, 2023, 09:21:50 PM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
We cannot expect 100% transparency from them because it will also put their business at risk knowing a lot would be eyeing to them especially that there is tight competition in the market. So as much as they want to be honest and transparent to you, just think that they are also doing it to other players. No need to publicly display those who have received their bonuses, after all you will see series of complaints if there are those who have been lied about their promised bonuses or rewards.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: gunhell16 on April 06, 2023, 09:28:10 PM
Sometimes I do question this too but it's a drop or what they call a "rain" so I doubt some gamblers will create a ruckus out of it. I even question those who receive the drop, maybe because I have not experienced it yet. Questions like, they may be part of the team or dummies of the team behind the company.
But as I said, I won't waste time questioning it because they are freebies. It's like a charity that cannot be questioned by the government.
Maybe if I receive it once, I will believe it. Regarding the number of the sent rain, now that's a more difficult question and we might never know unless someone who does it will come out and share the list.



This rain that you are talking about in crypto gambling, I also experienced it once, I just can't remember the name of the casino. It's like faucets or giveaways during that time they gave something every 30 mins at those times.

But, in order for you to qualify for these drops, you must first be able to enter money into their gambling platform, and in fairness, it was pretty good by that time, but now it seems that these features have been removed from crypto gambling as I just noticed.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Wapfika on April 06, 2023, 09:31:03 PM
That is really the problem, but they always provide ID numbers or, like, names for those who have one as part of transparency, but others will just email them, which is the problem. How do we know if they really select 500 winners on it? Well, that's really on casinos, and let's just say that we've gotten lucky if we've been selected as winners. Trust is really what we are holding onto for this, as it is their event and we have nothing to do with it; we just participate in it to have a chance to win.
We can't determine whether they telling or exposing the real list or number of users won , but since it's just their giveaways or free program we will just need to consider ourselves lucky if we are included in those who won. They are not required to provide list as they are not required to create giveaways or programs but they have to just to attract more users. If they're already a trusted casino and also have a built reputation that users come and play in them, having giveaways will just be an addition but not will matter whether they are telling truth in their giveaways winner as long as they providing good services in their players when it comes in support, in their deposits and having attractive games.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Jating on April 06, 2023, 09:34:28 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

We will never know, just like when others accused casinos of cheating them and that the casino's are not fair. Not unless they will have to show us the name of the gamblers that have received the drop and they themselves confirmed it. But as gamblers in crypto, we wanted to remain as private and anonymous so I doubt that casinos will give us the names or the gamblers confirming that they've got the drop.

So for me there's no way to confirmed it.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: livingfree on April 06, 2023, 09:41:20 PM
So for me there's no way to confirmed it.
And even you approach and ask them how the procedure went, it's unlikely they'll answer it. Well, if I'm a winner, I won't be interested anymore to know how I've won with such.

Although some sort of verification needed to be done by them in able to verify and confirm that the winners deserve it. It's a lot of work if the winners numbers are a lot, coming from hundreds to thousands.

That's a lot of time needed for them check each of them and somehow it's a thought that counts for someone like OP. But as the majority wouldn't think of it especially if they're picked and part of the list.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Quidat on April 06, 2023, 09:50:32 PM
So for me there's no way to confirmed it.
And even you approach and ask them how the procedure went, it's unlikely they'll answer it. Well, if I'm a winner, I won't be interested anymore to know how I've won with such.

Although some sort of verification needed to be done by them in able to verify and confirm that the winners deserve it. It's a lot of work if the winners numbers are a lot, coming from hundreds to thousands.

That's a lot of time needed for them check each of them and somehow it's a thought that counts for someone like OP. But as the majority wouldn't think of it especially if they're picked and part of the list.
If you are a winner then you wouldnt really be raising up some questions because who would be the one to raise up such concern when you are included with those selection? You are just finding
yourself into some possible argumentation which would be ending up on voiding your win and would choose up for another winning.This is why it would really just that normal that you wouldnt
be raising up questions but for those people who hadnt been chosen then that people are the ones who would be raising up questions in regarding with the results which is something
not that shocking.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: goaldigger on April 06, 2023, 09:53:32 PM
Not easy to figure out how many users are able to claim such codes shared on the social media but time limit can be used to track when the bonus drop availability ends. Some big platforms put wager requirements for claiming code drops so it is not as easy as it sounds to get all data who claimed it. If you have doubts specific casino cheats on the numbers, you may ask from support to prove marketing trick has not been used to convince users, IMHO.
Even if you ask their support, for sure they can manipulate the data as long as they benefited on this.
There’s no way to know this one, and better to ignore this instead of focusing on a things that we cannot control. Maybe there’s limit for every promotions or none at all, once you are able to claim the reward then your concern should be answered, many site will not ruin their reputation by just having this promotions being manipulated, let’s give the benefit of the doubt to the top sites.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: QueenVera on April 06, 2023, 09:54:27 PM
No one can tell how honest and transparent they are.
But the truth is that I don't expect them to be 100% honest or transparent because it's gambling.
The casinos make their decisions and award bonuses  to whom they want to.
Bonuses aside the welcome bonuses, I feel are mainly given to the core gamblers who are part of a loyalty scheme, those who the casino sees to be spending more money and time on casino games not just a random gamblers.
I think that casinos are honest and transparent but to some extents.

Exactly mate and we should also understand that these casinos are also in business and are there to make money just as we gamblers are there to make money as well.
Most times I also think alike with OP because there is no way a casino would give out all the bonuses they promise and still be in so much active business, let's say a bonus was given to two thousand and five hundred persons ( 2500) and let's just assume that they all win their bets with the bonuses and let's say they all make over ten thousand dollars (10,000) each which means the casino should be in a loss of over twenty five million dollars (25,000,000) how so we expect a casino cope with that? So I believe they are always very careful with giving out bonuses.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: romero121 on April 06, 2023, 10:38:31 PM
No one can tell how honest and transparent they are.
But the truth is that I don't expect them to be 100% honest or transparent because it's gambling.
The casinos make their decisions and award bonuses  to whom they want to.
Bonuses aside the welcome bonuses, I feel are mainly given to the core gamblers who are part of a loyalty scheme, those who the casino sees to be spending more money and time on casino games not just a random gamblers.
I think that casinos are honest and transparent but to some extents.
Gambling is a business and for that reason they'll look for the growth as well as better profit with time. Transparency adds more trust to the platform, but we can't expect things to be cent percent perfect. When we talk about the bonuses and other form of lucky draws mostly the platforms will be in favour of the Whale gamblers who are more important than the random gamblers who wager few thousand dollars to the maximum.

In an wagering contest I was able to see a person winning a million dollar bonus sharing just with two tickets while the rest were with thousands of tickets. Such incidents make people have good trust over the platform and believe in the system. There is need of honesty and transparency to stay strong in the high competence industry as we were able to see more casinos getting into existence regularly.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on April 06, 2023, 10:58:43 PM
The possibility of scrutinizing properly to know who has or who has been omitted is very slim. AFAIK, the casino site reviews every update on the bonus history and payouts so they could eventually Decide to include even a more vast number of peeps that didn't even participate to get the reward,...but that's not even your business anyways.
Now the main goal is making it look real and enticing; that's the reason other convincing means are used too... I think we've got alot of honesty sites that'll even make 'em bonuses smaller but to everyone that's worth it.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Mr.suevie on April 06, 2023, 11:06:04 PM
No one can tell how honest and transparent they are.
But the truth is that I don't expect them to be 100% honest or transparent because it's gambling.
The casinos make their decisions and award bonuses  to whom they want to.
Bonuses aside the welcome bonuses, I feel are mainly given to the core gamblers who are part of a loyalty scheme, those who the casino sees to be spending more money and time on casino games not just a random gamblers.
I think that casinos are honest and transparent but to some extents.
I think your statement might actually be true, because  I have really wonder how these casinos actually award their bonuses and when I say casino am referring to both the fiat casinos too. I have an account with a local casino here in my country with the name betking.com and I have been using this for more than a year now but I haven't been awarded Any official bonus on the account with the casino, so I had to call a make complaint and I was clearly told by the customer care agent that their casino bonus are awarded to specific user that have patronize them to a certain level. So I had to worry less about not having bonus on my account again although I felt a little down as I thought the bonus were actually given at a random selection of user accounts.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Wexnident on April 07, 2023, 12:54:49 AM
Trust remains the most important thing that connects casinos to users. And casinos strive to build that confidence by achieving several goals that are the criteria for any user to choose from. With thousands of casinos available, it can be difficult to ensure that your well-being and pockets are safeguarded.
To determine whether a casino is reliable or not, most important points that can be focused on to choose a reliable casino is that it is a licensed casino because it is very dangerous to use an unlicensed casino. Also, the payment system should be effective on the casino, allowing for smooth withdrawal and deposit transactions. There is another point that is no less important regarding bonus campaigns, which is that this bonus is achievable.
I'd actually say that the same could be said for any other business, and not just casinos. I'd just say that the relationship seems a bit more easily strained when it comes to casinos since it involves money-to-money directly, instead of other businesses where it's money-to-product or money-to-service (I can argue that casinos are technically money-to-service, but hey, said service is giving out money to winners so I guess it's a kind of a special case).

In any case, trust in something new would usually rely on their reputation, the same could be said for the new projects that said the business would release, which is basically what casinos do with drops and whatnot.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: alegotardo on April 07, 2023, 01:44:29 AM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

This is one of the problems that only blockchain transparency could solve, but as payments are made to internal addresses that only exist within exchanges, we will never know who actually won such a prize.
What could be done is for the casino to publicly disclose the nickname/login of the players who won, then we could know at least the fictitious names of the winners and if any of them said they didn't win the prize, then we would already have a red alert to start investigating .

Anyway, I prefer to believe in the honesty of the casinos that are more popular, because I've always reserved myself to bet on them and not on any casino that appears around here.
I believe that the casinos we have known for several months have a lot of reputation to uphold and should act honestly.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Peanutswar on April 07, 2023, 02:45:43 AM
Not easy to figure out how many users are able to claim such codes shared on the social media but time limit can be used to track when the bonus drop availability ends. Some big platforms put wager requirements for claiming code drops so it is not as easy as it sounds to get all data who claimed it. If you have doubts specific casino cheats on the numbers, you may ask from support to prove marketing trick has not been used to convince users, IMHO.

Another thing is the users do not need to know at the same time what are the numbers of players that claim their rewards because there's nothing impact on it, that's why most of the casinos show the number of the total wagered mostly because to tell to their players that they are continuously progressing with the number of players, rewards always have a designated task for their players before claiming the rewards if the player does not comply with the requirements of course nothing will recieved for the reward.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: rodskee on April 07, 2023, 03:08:31 AM
Not sure if they are legit or truly giving it away but the problem is that they are gathering players from this style and yes there are almost every gambling site gives this kind of information and luring.
how I wonder that would be the actual reaction of each players that they think being fooled on that way, because for me there are no assurance if this is right and true.
so don't fall into promises instead make sure you are dealing with honest site and not just to lure and run .


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Yaunfitda on April 07, 2023, 03:12:02 AM
Yes, I'm with the majority here, yes there are a lot of trusted casino's, those platform that we have played for years already and has a lot of competitions and even whales who join.

But there's no way for us to verify has transparent they are as far as giving those bonuses or rewards to it's players. Only they have the numbers and no one can verify if they really gave that huge amount of money to the winners or not. And with that, the only thing we can do is to accept what they said base on face value alone.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: bittraffic on April 07, 2023, 04:21:51 AM
Yes, I'm with the majority here, yes there are a lot of trusted casino's, those platform that we have played for years already and has a lot of competitions and even whales who join.

But there's no way for us to verify has transparent they are as far as giving those bonuses or rewards to it's players. Only they have the numbers and no one can verify if they really gave that huge amount of money to the winners or not. And with that, the only thing we can do is to accept what they said base on face value alone.

You just have to be grateful when you receive a bonus, it doesn't come every day. The trusted casinos we know might not really be transparent but you wouldn't really rely on the bonuses. When a casino announced some users got bonuses and you will not be able to find out if those users actually got some bonuses after all we all like privacy.

New casinos can also promote themselves pretending they are giving bonuses too. But they just can't fake reputation. I'm just assuming the point of the thread would be for such a situation as new casinos wanted to exploit.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 07, 2023, 05:40:31 AM
Yes, I'm with the majority here, yes there are a lot of trusted casino's, those platform that we have played for years already and has a lot of competitions and even whales who join.

But there's no way for us to verify has transparent they are as far as giving those bonuses or rewards to it's players. Only they have the numbers and no one can verify if they really gave that huge amount of money to the winners or not. And with that, the only thing we can do is to accept what they said base on face value alone.
Therefore, instead of continuing to think about the transparency of one casino or looking for the truth that we don't know at all, it's better for us to play gambling and enjoy the bonuses. It will make us forget things that are not really important for us to know and we will leave that to the casinos to manage. After all, a trusted casino will not disappoint its users, especially its loyal users, because loyal users have made the casino develop well. This is where the casino owner must always realize to provide the best for its members.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fortify on April 07, 2023, 07:53:11 AM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
We cannot expect 100% transparency from them because it will also put their business at risk knowing a lot would be eyeing to them especially that there is tight competition in the market. So as much as they want to be honest and transparent to you, just think that they are also doing it to other players. No need to publicly display those who have received their bonuses, after all you will see series of complaints if there are those who have been lied about their promised bonuses or rewards.

Funnily enough, they have one of the simplest business models on the planet. Build some games that can take in money, build enough security around them in many forms to keep the funds safe, hire a customer service team and then try to acquire as many new customers (including via special promotions) because each new one will generally be handing you free money because they don't understand the odds involved. Sportbooks get slightly more complicated as you need to do a lot of data crunching and analysis, even if outsourced, in order to be able to offer competitive odds and also make sure that you're not getting tricked in all sorts of different ways like match fixing.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: ajochems on April 07, 2023, 08:03:55 AM
Most of the casino works with big money, So they won’t scam for the little money. Which you mean as the bonus to the participants, the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino. If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website, you should apply for it. Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not. The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit. Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers, I don’t think they will scam on such program.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: swogerino on April 07, 2023, 08:04:34 AM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
We cannot expect 100% transparency from them because it will also put their business at risk knowing a lot would be eyeing to them especially that there is tight competition in the market. So as much as they want to be honest and transparent to you, just think that they are also doing it to other players. No need to publicly display those who have received their bonuses, after all you will see series of complaints if there are those who have been lied about their promised bonuses or rewards.

Funnily enough, they have one of the simplest business models on the planet. Build some games that can take in money, build enough security around them in many forms to keep the funds safe, hire a customer service team and then try to acquire as many new customers (including via special promotions) because each new one will generally be handing you free money because they don't understand the odds involved. Sportbooks get slightly more complicated as you need to do a lot of data crunching and analysis, even if outsourced, in order to be able to offer competitive odds and also make sure that you're not getting tricked in all sorts of different ways like match fixing.

I would agree with everything except sport betting.In the beginning for new prospects which register at the casino they will have some difficulties and they will lose money but with the passing of time they may grasp the concept well enough to keep making money consistently and becoming a "burden" for the casino as they will not be giving money to the casino but will be getting money out of the casino.Of course the number of such individuals is very low compared to the ones losing money so the casino does not care as overall they will be making money.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Kakmakr on April 07, 2023, 08:23:36 AM
Most of the casino works with big money,So they won’t scam for the little money.Which you mean as the bonus to the participants,the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino.If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website,you should apply for it.Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not.The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit.Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers,I don’t think they will scam on such program.

No, friend..... we are talking about daily drops and a lot of them for 1000s of people. So, in the long run.. it adds up to a LOT of money in a year. Remember one thing.... if a casino are dishonest about one thing, then they might be dishonest with a lot of the other things they do too.

We are the watchdogs for many people who might want to gamble at Crypto casinos.. so we must get rid of the "bad" apples to convince potential gamblers that Crypto casinos are not scams.  :P


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 07, 2023, 10:19:25 AM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
We cannot expect 100% transparency from them because it will also put their business at risk knowing a lot would be eyeing to them especially that there is tight competition in the market. So as much as they want to be honest and transparent to you, just think that they are also doing it to other players. No need to publicly display those who have received their bonuses, after all you will see series of complaints if there are those who have been lied about their promised bonuses or rewards.

Funnily enough, they have one of the simplest business models on the planet. Build some games that can take in money, build enough security around them in many forms to keep the funds safe, hire a customer service team and then try to acquire as many new customers (including via special promotions) because each new one will generally be handing you free money because they don't understand the odds involved. Sportbooks get slightly more complicated as you need to do a lot of data crunching and analysis, even if outsourced, in order to be able to offer competitive odds and also make sure that you're not getting tricked in all sorts of different ways like match fixing.
Might sound easy as a business owner or something that do talks about the business model on how its been done but getting your first customer would be the toughest challenge of all and just able to sustain and make them stay would really be that not that simple. Of course they would really be making themselves as legit and reputable and could be trusted which they would really be doing things on what should really be done.
Transparency is what most gamblers do really love want to see but we know that everything couldnt really be just be showed because technical aspects arent something that could be anytime be understandable
by most gamblers. As long you are dealing with the right and popular ones then consider that they are running some fair business.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Wiwo on April 07, 2023, 10:28:09 AM
I don't know casinos are viewed as a bad actor in the cryptocurrency market but for the fact that gambling have helped to solve so many mental stress issues and other work related symptom it quite unfair to refer to casino as questionable business not doubting the fact that there are also several negative implication in gambling such as gambling addictions.

 So if we must discuss reputation, because even though the house system is designed to favour the house edges,  and players only when there is high luck, but then players are still patronising most new and old casino won't means the reward.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: FatFork on April 07, 2023, 11:56:16 AM
Most of the casino works with big money, So they won’t scam for the little money. Which you mean as the bonus to the participants, the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino. If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website, you should apply for it. Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not. The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit. Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers, I don’t think they will scam on such program.

Yes, it's true that most casinos deal with large sums of money and may not risk their reputation by scamming players out of small bonuses. However, it's important to remember that not all casinos operate in the same way, and even small bonuses can add up and make a big difference for players. Besides, applying for a bonus and waiting to see if you receive it is not always the most efficient method. It's better to check reviews from other players to get an idea of the website's reputation. This can help you avoid any potential scams or issues down the line.




So if we must discuss reputation, because even though the house system is designed to favour the house edges,  and players only when there is high luck, but then players are still patronising most new and old casino won't means the reward.

What the heck are you blabbering about?
What you said was a little jumbled, to put it mildly. It could use some improvement.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Johnyz on April 07, 2023, 01:18:26 PM
I don't know casinos are viewed as a bad actor in the cryptocurrency market but for the fact that gambling have helped to solve so many mental stress issues and other work related symptom it quite unfair to refer to casino as questionable business not doubting the fact that there are also several negative implication in gambling such as gambling addictions.
Gambling can still be consider as one of the reason why many are suffering from a mental health, many lose a lot of money here and also themselves. So I'm wondering where did you get the fact that gambling solved many mental stress issues. Anyway, being curious for this is fine as long as you don't make accusation probably we are just curious if they are really paying the reward or just stop the promotions when there's enough participants already, hard to tell and most of the time casinos will not disclose this which can create a speculation.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: molsewid on April 07, 2023, 01:26:56 PM
Most of the casino works with big money, So they won’t scam for the little money. Which you mean as the bonus to the participants, the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino. If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website, you should apply for it. Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not. The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit. Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers, I don’t think they will scam on such program.
Hmmm maybe it is still possible for a casino to say that they give this amount of drops in this xx people but then OP can try to check for the website traffic, I am not so sure but maybe semrush can help? it can help you to know how many visits per day does this website can have maybe with some deep searching he can also see if they sent a lot of email to the users? again only the traffic.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: pawanjain on April 07, 2023, 01:34:22 PM
Most of the casino works with big money,So they won’t scam for the little money.Which you mean as the bonus to the participants,the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino.If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website,you should apply for it.Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not.The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit.Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers,I don’t think they will scam on such program.

No, friend..... we are talking about daily drops and a lot of them for 1000s of people. So, in the long run.. it adds up to a LOT of money in a year. Remember one thing.... if a casino are dishonest about one thing, then they might be dishonest with a lot of the other things they do too.

We are the watchdogs for many people who might want to gamble at Crypto casinos.. so we must get rid of the "bad" apples to convince potential gamblers that Crypto casinos are not scams.  :P

No matter how much we try but in the end there will still be new casinos popping up who will try to lure users to deposit on their site and then scam them.
Taking out the bad apples will leave us with the good apples but the new ones won't be guaranteed to be good too.
All we can do is do our due diligence to research about the site before making any kind of deposits.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: uneng on April 07, 2023, 02:29:55 PM
Most of the casino works with big money, So they won’t scam for the little money. Which you mean as the bonus to the participants, the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino. If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website, you should apply for it. Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not. The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit. Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers, I don’t think they will scam on such program.
Hmmm maybe it is still possible for a casino to say that they give this amount of drops in this xx people but then OP can try to check for the website traffic, I am not so sure but maybe semrush can help? it can help you to know how many visits per day does this website can have maybe with some deep searching he can also see if they sent a lot of email to the users? again only the traffic.
The promotion model (prize draw for limited number of users) at online platforms involving thousands or hundreds of thousands participants from different places in the world can't work in a 100% transparent format, because there will never be a certain way to make sure every winners are real legit players. I believe website traffic neither any other tools can help on this case. That is the kind of competition you have to trust a lot the house's legitimacy to participate.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: death69 on April 07, 2023, 02:52:45 PM
They cannot publicly display the list of who is getting how much bonus or drops, as this will lead to the violation of the user’s privacy policy. Moreover why are you caring for other people? If you are getting your rewards as promised, then definitely others might be getting the same also. Regarding the honesty, then your only concern should be how fair the games are that you are playing. You can easily verify the seeds of the game and can easily conclude that whether the casino is honest and transparent or not. Hope this clears some of your doubts OP.
We cannot expect 100% transparency from them because it will also put their business at risk knowing a lot would be eyeing to them especially that there is tight competition in the market. So as much as they want to be honest and transparent to you, just think that they are also doing it to other players. No need to publicly display those who have received their bonuses, after all you will see series of complaints if there are those who have been lied about their promised bonuses or rewards.

Funnily enough, they have one of the simplest business models on the planet. Build some games that can take in money, build enough security around them in many forms to keep the funds safe, hire a customer service team and then try to acquire as many new customers (including via special promotions) because each new one will generally be handing you free money because they don't understand the odds involved. Sportbooks get slightly more complicated as you need to do a lot of data crunching and analysis, even if outsourced, in order to be able to offer competitive odds and also make sure that you're not getting tricked in all sorts of different ways like match fixing.
Might sound easy as a business owner or something that do talks about the business model on how its been done but getting your first customer would be the toughest challenge of all and just able to sustain and make them stay would really be that not that simple. Of course they would really be making themselves as legit and reputable and could be trusted which they would really be doing things on what should really be done.
Transparency is what most gamblers do really love want to see but we know that everything couldnt really be just be showed because technical aspects arent something that could be anytime be understandable
by most gamblers. As long you are dealing with the right and popular ones then consider that they are running some fair business.

Nabbing that first client can feel like seeking a needle in an ocean of hay, especially in the early stages. Fear not! Once you've snagged them, ensure they're as content as a pampered feline. You don't want them scampering off to scratch another's sofa!

Transparency is crucial; be candid with your clientele. Yes, technicalities can get convoluted, but it's possible to elucidate matters so even a spud comprehends. Make it easy-peasy, clarifying potential gains and losses. And for that extra sparkle, sprinkle in delightful kitty clips for entertainment!

Bear in mind, being genuine and esteemed is vital for drawing and retaining patrons. Don't morph into a swindling feline snatching their cash. Be the hip cat offering a just and enjoyable experience for all. Purr!


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Davidvictorson on April 07, 2023, 03:32:06 PM
I think that this is a pretty straightforwardd answer. And whatever answer any users gives is based off of
- if they had read the terms and conditions of the casino offering such bonus
-if they understood the terms and conditions
- if they had read reviews of the casino online before joining in any promotion.

I personally do not believe that a drop is for 2500 people will reach them all. There is no way. That is just a promotional strategy to drive more traffic to their sites. Secondly there are fake reviews and there are real reviews, so you must develop an eye for spotting the difference. Lastly, honesty and transparency in online casinos from the standpoint of the client are subject, it depends on the user's experience and other factors.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: 348Judah on April 07, 2023, 04:09:57 PM
Most of the casino works with big money, So they won’t scam for the little money. Which you mean as the bonus to the participants, the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino. If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website, you should apply for it. Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not. The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit. Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers, I don’t think they will scam on such program.

Its not about a casino having big money or not, it's a matter of whom they were, you can imagine if the accumulation of thousands and millions of people were being denied access to their deposit from a casino, each having little or more money on their casino wallet, this will definitely sum up to a very huge amount of money, therefore you need to research well on a casino before choosing them in other for them not to cart away your money over night among others.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 07, 2023, 05:13:05 PM
Most of the casino works with big money, So they won’t scam for the little money. Which you mean as the bonus to the participants, the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino. If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website, you should apply for it. Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not. The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit. Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers, I don’t think they will scam on such program.
Some casinos work by cheating small money so it's still money for the casino. They will not hesitate to take it from gamblers by beating them in gambling games. We often hear that many people have experienced defeat at gambling and even though they took promotions and got bonuses, many gamblers have lost. So if the casino is a scam, the casino will use all means to take the customer's money and even if the customer complains about the problem to the support service, it will not be resolved properly.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on April 07, 2023, 06:22:44 PM
Some casinos work by cheating small money so it's still money for the casino. They will not hesitate to take it from gamblers by beating them in gambling games. We often hear that many people have experienced defeat at gambling and even though they took promotions and got bonuses, many gamblers have lost. So if the casino is a scam, the casino will use all means to take the customer's money and even if the customer complains about the problem to the support service, it will not be resolved properly.
The thing is....
They'll get to incentivise a little cash into anyone that gets registered; more like a jetpack or a starter pack.... That ofcourse will entice any regular gambler ASAP.
Now, on the other way round, they'll also devise a means to 'em back; via loses and unduly overcharge or combo minus, depending on what the case might be. It's a give and take process yunno...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Casdinyard on April 07, 2023, 06:44:24 PM
Most of the casino works with big money, So they won’t scam for the little money. Which you mean as the bonus to the participants, the bonus is nothing to the trusted gambling or casino. If you want to check to find the bonus program of certain website, you should apply for it. Then check whether they paying you the bonus or not. The good gambling site ready to pay you even 1000 dollars as a bonus for the big deposit. Bonus program is used by the website to get attractions among gamblers, I don’t think they will scam on such program.

Its not about a casino having big money or not, it's a matter of whom they were, you can imagine if the accumulation of thousands and millions of people were being denied access to their deposit from a casino, each having little or more money on their casino wallet, this will definitely sum up to a very huge amount of money, therefore you need to research well on a casino before choosing them in other for them not to cart away your money over night among others.
Exactly. No matter how big or small the money in the casino owner's pocket is, if they plan to cheat and take advantage of the customers they have, they'll do it regardless of the status and the reputation of their casino. Although of course, it still is a good rule of thumb to only choose casinos with a large treasury for other reasons such as fast and safe withdrawal and such. But I digress, there are very little chances of Casinos, especially ones that are reputable enough to garner a wider range of audience to cheat on their players. That's just a recipe for failure in my opinion and would equate to them losing their playerbase when found that they are indeed committing these crimes.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: coupable on April 07, 2023, 07:03:19 PM
^

Believe me, the casino license is much less important thing than the reputation, because the license is needed only because it is a requirement of the regulators, like KYC and AML.

But the reputation is earned over the years and is the best indicator of a casino in relation to customers, and in absolutely all plans.

Many gamblers do not care whether a casino has a license, but the reputation is not.
Being a licensed casino is part of the trust protocol. These licenses guarantee the user the ability to file a lawsuit in the event of any unexpected problems with the platform. Almost all trusted platforms are licensed platforms, and these licenses make it easier for the user to know the party they are dealing with, because I imagine that unlicensed casinos often operate anonymously.
Personally, I always prefer apps and solutions that guarantee privacy, but with casinos and centralized platforms in general, it is better that they are licensed. I think a large percentage share the same opinion with me.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: livingfree on April 07, 2023, 07:49:27 PM
And even you approach and ask them how the procedure went, it's unlikely they'll answer it. Well, if I'm a winner, I won't be interested anymore to know how I've won with such.

Although some sort of verification needed to be done by them in able to verify and confirm that the winners deserve it. It's a lot of work if the winners numbers are a lot, coming from hundreds to thousands.

That's a lot of time needed for them check each of them and somehow it's a thought that counts for someone like OP. But as the majority wouldn't think of it especially if they're picked and part of the list.
If you are a winner then you wouldnt really be raising up some questions because who would be the one to raise up such concern when you are included with those selection? You are just finding
yourself into some possible argumentation which would be ending up on voiding your win and would choose up for another winning.This is why it would really just that normal that you wouldnt
be raising up questions but for those people who hadnt been chosen then that people are the ones who would be raising up questions in regarding with the results which is something
not that shocking.
No one I guess will argue to the casino if ever he's found the winner and if I am a winner, no more talks and will just be patiently wait for the prize to be received.

But one thing is for sure, we'll never know information like this and they'll keep it sensitive and hidden because that might be their unspoken rule that no one should know who are the actual winners.

And it's up to those who haven't won if they'll believe the set of winners or not as there's nothing can be done by any single individual whether he's a winner or not or just a speculator.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Obari on April 07, 2023, 08:51:15 PM
Is there any list of people to be considered when a bonus is given out ?
I don't think a casino will have to cheat their players over bonuses and if from your illustration,if the casino wants to give out prizes to over five hundred persons, there is no need to over exaggerate on the number of persons to be given the award because I think and at some point believe that casinos wouldn't want to risk their reputation over bonuses and promotions which aren't event mandatory.
I wouldn't say the casinos are cheating us because you need to think of how much money those casinos make from plyers and gamblers a day and that is why they have to spend so much on marketing and promotions to gain more visibility and players.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Huppercase on April 07, 2023, 10:21:54 PM
I don't know casinos are viewed as a bad actor in the cryptocurrency market but for the fact that gambling have helped to solve so many mental stress issues and other work related symptom it quite unfair to refer to casino as questionable business not doubting the fact that there are also several negative implication in gambling such as gambling addictions.

There are some high profile religius leader that preach against gambling, whether with crypto or without it, they say it is haram which means it is forbiden for the youth to endulge in the activity; Gambling has also help some people kill time and also fun, put the money picture and you will find out that so many lives has been lost as a result of gambling, all human on earth don't have the brain to accept loss when it occur to them.

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So if we must discuss reputation, because even though the house system is designed to favour the house edges,  and players only when there is high luck, but then players are still patronising most new and old casino won't means the reward.

The devil you know is better than the angel that will deceive you, some people stick to one particular gambling for some reasons but all gamblers don't joke with security, anything that will affect their balance, they don't joke with and other minor features and that is why I think gamblers stick to one casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Wiwo on April 07, 2023, 10:35:26 PM
Is there any list of people to be considered when a bonus is given out ?
The answer to that questions yes, casinos may set aside a special bonus for some set of players on their site just as we have rank and the percentage payment as in form of rake back which are paid according to the VIP ranks and other membership rank on the casino, because you don't expect a casino to offer the same bonus to a newcomer and still give same to an already loyal high rank players, there must be separation in the bonus amount for both.

I don't think a casino will have to cheat their players over bonuses and if from your illustration,if the casino wants to give out prizes to over five hundred persons, there is no need to over exaggerate on the number of persons to be given the award because I think and at some point believe that casinos wouldn't want to risk their reputation over bonuses and promotions which aren't even mandatory.
I wouldn't say the casinos are cheating us because you need to think of how much money those casinos make from players and gamblers a day and that is why they have to spend so much on marketing and promotions to gain more visibility and players.

The only way to prove that the casino actually gives out the promised bonus is to take part in as many bonuses as possible and follow up on all the development through their channels to know if the bonus is truly distributed,  but the question for ops is that will he also account for those number of bonus that is not also claimed because we may have some cases that the casino will announce an amount of bonus but there won't be enough subscribers to claim them until the bonus time will expire.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: khaled0111 on April 07, 2023, 11:57:56 PM
Hmm, I think you guys are taking the drop features on casinos too far, one thing I believe is that the drop which happens in casinos chat box was never designed to be something really important, or a kind of giveaway that should really matter, drops are designed as a way of rewarding users who spend their time on the casinos chat box helping other and probably sharing ideas on what to bet and game to play, it is also a way of encouraging other users to become and stay active in the chat too.
It seems there is a misunderstanding here! OP is not talking about drops a.k.a chat rains which gives cents to those who are active on the chat box. He is talking about lotteries and free raffles where the winners get thousands of dollars. Such contests need to be transparent and the casino have to make it in a way that all the participants can verify the fairness of the results.
This is why I said it's better if a well known streamer hosts the event or simply use a pf system.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: wiss19 on April 08, 2023, 05:05:22 AM
Not sure if they are legit or truly giving it away but the problem is that they are gathering players from this style and yes there are almost every gambling site gives this kind of information and luring.
how I wonder that would be the actual reaction of each players that they think being fooled on that way, because for me there are no assurance if this is right and true.
so don't fall into promises instead make sure you are dealing with honest site and not just to lure and run .
Every business uses some marketing technique to attract customers, it can involve bonuses, giveaways, trials, and the list goes on. Now, the customer that joins that business needs to make sure that they get what they were promised before joining, and if they get that, they wouldn't have any issues whether the company or the project is paying others or not.

I think casinos with a good reputation don't really have anything to prove since everyone knows that they do pay the bonuses, etc. that they promise but the platforms that are relatively new in the market are probably questioned for not being honest enough with their customers.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: noormcs5 on April 08, 2023, 05:13:56 AM
Not sure if they are legit or truly giving it away but the problem is that they are gathering players from this style and yes there are almost every gambling site gives this kind of information and luring.
how I wonder that would be the actual reaction of each players that they think being fooled on that way, because for me there are no assurance if this is right and true.
so don't fall into promises instead make sure you are dealing with honest site and not just to lure and run .
Every business uses some marketing technique to attract customers, it can involve bonuses, giveaways, trials, and the list goes on. Now, the customer that joins that business needs to make sure that they get what they were promised before joining, and if they get that, they wouldn't have any issues whether the company or the project is paying others or not.

I think casinos with a good reputation don't really have anything to prove since everyone knows that they do pay the bonuses, etc. that they promise but the platforms that are relatively new in the market are probably questioned for not being honest enough with their customers.

Well, i can only say one thing here. With dishonesty, the casino may gain few gamblers but in the long term they will lose the players and their business cannot survive and grow
On the other hand, if the casino is honest, the gamblers will be retained, they won't look for a new better casino and hence it will be good for the long term business.

Now it's up to the casinos how they want to operate and be successful in a world where there is a lot of competition. If a gambling casino is found to be dishonest, I am afraid gamblers will leave the casino forever, and it's hard to regain the trust of the casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Silberman on April 08, 2023, 05:35:03 AM
Exactly. No matter how big or small the money in the casino owner's pocket is, if they plan to cheat and take advantage of the customers they have, they'll do it regardless of the status and the reputation of their casino. Although of course, it still is a good rule of thumb to only choose casinos with a large treasury for other reasons such as fast and safe withdrawal and such. But I digress, there are very little chances of Casinos, especially ones that are reputable enough to garner a wider range of audience to cheat on their players. That's just a recipe for failure in my opinion and would equate to them losing their playerbase when found that they are indeed committing these crimes.
There is not much of a reason for a casino to do this, even if a casino owner thinks they can away with cheating their customers, someone will find out this information and then everything they have worked so hard for will disappear, as gamblers will immediately think that if a casino owner is willing to cheat them in this way then they will think about the many different ways in which the casino can cheat them and then never play there ever again.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: len01 on April 08, 2023, 06:20:23 AM
Exactly. No matter how big or small the money in the casino owner's pocket is, if they plan to cheat and take advantage of the customers they have, they'll do it regardless of the status and the reputation of their casino. Although of course, it still is a good rule of thumb to only choose casinos with a large treasury for other reasons such as fast and safe withdrawal and such. But I digress, there are very little chances of Casinos, especially ones that are reputable enough to garner a wider range of audience to cheat on their players. That's just a recipe for failure in my opinion and would equate to them losing their playerbase when found that they are indeed committing these crimes.
There is not much of a reason for a casino to do this, even if a casino owner thinks they can away with cheating their customers, someone will find out this information and then everything they have worked so hard for will disappear, as gamblers will immediately think that if a casino owner is willing to cheat them in this way then they will think about the many different ways in which the casino can cheat them and then never play there ever again.
for a casino that starts from scratch until it becomes popular and reputable, they will think long term if they want to deceive their customers. because casino owners know that establishing a casino and gaining the trust and good reputation of customers is very difficult and not easy to get and if they are caught cheating their customers, they will certainly lose their reputation.
from other things, casinos that already know their own struggles when starting a casino from small to large, they will never have to cheat their customers. because they know that cheating a customer with only a small amount but losing their reputation is very bad.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 08, 2023, 06:44:48 AM
Not sure if they are legit or truly giving it away but the problem is that they are gathering players from this style and yes there are almost every gambling site gives this kind of information and luring.
how I wonder that would be the actual reaction of each players that they think being fooled on that way, because for me there are no assurance if this is right and true.
so don't fall into promises instead make sure you are dealing with honest site and not just to lure and run .
Every business uses some marketing technique to attract customers, it can involve bonuses, giveaways, trials, and the list goes on. Now, the customer that joins that business needs to make sure that they get what they were promised before joining, and if they get that, they wouldn't have any issues whether the company or the project is paying others or not.

I think casinos with a good reputation don't really have anything to prove since everyone knows that they do pay the bonuses, etc. that they promise but the platforms that are relatively new in the market are probably questioned for not being honest enough with their customers.

Well, i can only say one thing here. With dishonesty, the casino may gain few gamblers but in the long term they will lose the players and their business cannot survive and grow
On the other hand, if the casino is honest, the gamblers will be retained, they won't look for a new better casino and hence it will be good for the long term business.

Now it's up to the casinos how they want to operate and be successful in a world where there is a lot of competition. If a gambling casino is found to be dishonest, I am afraid gamblers will leave the casino forever, and it's hard to regain the trust of the casino.
And TRUST is very important in casinos because gamblers won't stay and never use their platform or site if they know there is inconsistency and cheating, they going to leave and spread those things to others. So, if I am running a business like this why should I have to do that which in fact, we know that I was still profiting without cheating? I should care more about reputation and let trust built because it returns back good to us as well in the future.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Outhue on April 08, 2023, 08:14:37 AM
Not sure if they are legit or truly giving it away but the problem is that they are gathering players from this style and yes there are almost every gambling site gives this kind of information and luring.
how I wonder that would be the actual reaction of each players that they think being fooled on that way, because for me there are no assurance if this is right and true.
so don't fall into promises instead make sure you are dealing with honest site and not just to lure and run .
Every business uses some marketing technique to attract customers, it can involve bonuses, giveaways, trials, and the list goes on. Now, the customer that joins that business needs to make sure that they get what they were promised before joining, and if they get that, they wouldn't have any issues whether the company or the project is paying others or not.

I think casinos with a good reputation don't really have anything to prove since everyone knows that they do pay the bonuses, etc. that they promise but the platforms that are relatively new in the market are probably questioned for not being honest enough with their customers.

Well, i can only say one thing here. With dishonesty, the casino may gain few gamblers but in the long term they will lose the players and their business cannot survive and grow
On the other hand, if the casino is honest, the gamblers will be retained, they won't look for a new better casino and hence it will be good for the long term business.

Now it's up to the casinos how they want to operate and be successful in a world where there is a lot of competition. If a gambling casino is found to be dishonest, I am afraid gamblers will leave the casino forever, and it's hard to regain the trust of the casino.
Honesty is not enough to keep or retained online gamblers, not all people are that loyal, and this is money making we talking about, where everyone are free to do what they feel like.

A gambler can decide to leave or abandoned a online casino if they are not making any more achievement, for example, if a gambler keep losing on a online casino they will want to try other casinos.

A gambler can also decide to leave an online casino with high reputation if the games on the casino platform is no more fun or if the platform lacks more game, most smart gamblers look for fun more than doubling their money, and the only way to keep the fun in check is playing new fun games.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Alpha Marine on April 08, 2023, 08:38:07 AM
Personally, I pay very less attention to bonuses. Provided the casino is honest enough to give me my winning and they don't do any shady things with my account or fund them I'm cool. I only use casinos I trust.

There's actually no way to know if they actually keep their word but I believe it's just a marketing strategy.  They may actually give to some customers as you said and I also believe they will give to their regulars. Casinos make a lot of money so giving out bonuses to their regulars shouldn't be an issue for them because that money is just peanuts compared to what they make daily.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on April 08, 2023, 09:40:06 AM
I don't know casinos are viewed as a bad actor in the cryptocurrency market but for the fact that gambling have helped to solve so many mental stress issues and other work related symptom it quite unfair to refer to casino as questionable business not doubting the fact that there are also several negative implication in gambling such as gambling addictions.

There are some high profile religius leader that preach against gambling, whether with crypto or without it, they say it is haram which means it is forbiden for the youth to endulge in the activity; Gambling has also help some people kill time and also fun, put the money picture and you will find out that so many lives has been lost as a result of gambling, all human on earth don't have the brain to accept loss when it occur to them.

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So if we must discuss reputation, because even though the house system is designed to favour the house edges,  and players only when there is high luck, but then players are still patronising most new and old casino won't means the reward.

The devil you know is better than the angel that will deceive you, some people stick to one particular gambling for some reasons but all gamblers don't joke with security, anything that will affect their balance, they don't joke with and other minor features and that is why I think gamblers stick to one casino.

   -  Here in our country, gambling was prohibited and there were still raids in various places, but now it is very different because before it was done secretly, now because of the technology we have in this era, it is openly even campaigned by well-known influencers on the social media platform.

And many lives have been destroyed by gambling, in fact, because even minors do it without parental guidance and can also be seen on Facebook because of irresponsible influencers who care nothing but to make money and deceive their people followers.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Wiwo on April 08, 2023, 10:02:54 AM

   -  Here in our country, gambling was prohibited and there were still raids in various places, but now it is very different because before it was done secretly, now because of the technology we have in this era, it is openly even campaigned by well-known influencers on the social media platform.

And many lives have been destroyed by gambling, in fact, because even minors do it without parental guidance and can also be seen on Facebook because of irresponsible influencers who care nothing but making money and deceiving their people followers.
I guess your region is similar to mind and as a matter of fact, gambling is still not legal business in Nigeria unless for a few number of cryptocurrency gambling that do not originate from my country but are not restricted, we still have access to them and also a few central fiat gambling that is popular only via social media and influencers have constantly promoted them.

 Some of that casinos even have a bad reputation, and because of that many have been affected negatively because of their activities.

But then online cryptocurrency casinos have just gain popularity during and after the covid-19 lockdown and since then we have not had horrible experiences like what we used to have years back with traditional gambling houses that have ruined many Lives


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: EarnOnVictor on April 08, 2023, 10:27:23 AM
Not easy to figure out how many users are able to claim such codes shared on the social media but time limit can be used to track when the bonus drop availability ends. Some big platforms put wager requirements for claiming code drops so it is not as easy as it sounds to get all data who claimed it. If you have doubts specific casino cheats on the numbers, you may ask from support to prove marketing trick has not been used to convince users, IMHO.
Even if you ask their support, for sure they can manipulate the data as long as they benefited on this.
There’s no way to know this one, and better to ignore this instead of focusing on a things that we cannot control. Maybe there’s limit for every promotions or none at all, once you are able to claim the reward then your concern should be answered, many site will not ruin their reputation by just having this promotions being manipulated, let’s give the benefit of the doubt to the top sites.
Just like I have explained it is not easy to prove your argument. Finding real data then comparing results take a lot of time effort which can be absent for majority of the gamblers.
My take on this argument is that both sides have their valid points, but no one should be completely right about theirs. My reason is that there are some casinos that are thorough and fair with their dealings, and they will give you the proof of what you need as it is. But some will never do that or even manipulate the one they provide you.

The bottom line is that casinos will always be casinos, it's not for the faint in mind. Whether they are completely fair or not, just know your strategy and principles that gives you some leverage to make money or quit if you know it's not for you.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 08, 2023, 10:32:13 AM
Some casinos work by cheating small money so it's still money for the casino. They will not hesitate to take it from gamblers by beating them in gambling games. We often hear that many people have experienced defeat at gambling and even though they took promotions and got bonuses, many gamblers have lost. So if the casino is a scam, the casino will use all means to take the customer's money and even if the customer complains about the problem to the support service, it will not be resolved properly.
The thing is....
They'll get to incentivise a little cash into anyone that gets registered; more like a jetpack or a starter pack.... That ofcourse will entice any regular gambler ASAP.
Now, on the other way round, they'll also devise a means to 'em back; via loses and unduly overcharge or combo minus, depending on what the case might be. It's a give and take process yunno...

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That's right what you say. The casinos know how to take gamblers money slowly or fast. Casinos give bonuses to entice gamblers to come back and deposit more money and after that, they take all the money at once. And for gamblers who use big money, the casino will play on the feelings of gamblers by making them almost win big money. That will make gamblers even more interested and eager to try to win big money.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: nimogsm on April 08, 2023, 10:36:44 AM
Personally, I pay very less attention to bonuses. Provided the casino is honest enough to give me my winning and they don't do any shady things with my account or fund them I'm cool. I only use casinos I trust.

There's actually no way to know if they actually keep their word but I believe it's just a marketing strategy.  They may actually give to some customers as you said and I also believe they will give to their regulars. Casinos make a lot of money so giving out bonuses to their regulars shouldn't be an issue for them because that money is just peanuts compared to what they make daily.
I rarely take part in bonus programs, but it is important for me that the draw is fair. The prizes were small, but they were credited in full, and it's cool, it's like a small deposit bonus. Most often,new casinos launch a lot of promotional companies and it is impossible to track their transparency, since the project does not yet have a reputation and only live reviews can prove it.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: molsewid on April 08, 2023, 01:02:54 PM
I rarely take part in bonus programs, but it is important for me that the draw is fair. The prizes were small, but they were credited in full, and it's cool, it's like a small deposit bonus. Most often,new casinos launch a lot of promotional companies and it is impossible to track their transparency, since the project does not yet have a reputation and only live reviews can prove it.

Yes, that's why some new casinos hired influencers so they can be promoted in different channels that might help them to have users. Before , I heard there are some twitch streamers who promotes some gambling activities . Transparency must be one of the main thing that an online gambling website should focus , no gambler wants to be cheated of course.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: CarnagexD on April 08, 2023, 02:12:19 PM
Exactly. No matter how big or small the money in the casino owner's pocket is, if they plan to cheat and take advantage of the customers they have, they'll do it regardless of the status and the reputation of their casino. Although of course, it still is a good rule of thumb to only choose casinos with a large treasury for other reasons such as fast and safe withdrawal and such. But I digress, there are very little chances of Casinos, especially ones that are reputable enough to garner a wider range of audience to cheat on their players. That's just a recipe for failure in my opinion and would equate to them losing their playerbase when found that they are indeed committing these crimes.
There is not much of a reason for a casino to do this, even if a casino owner thinks they can away with cheating their customers, someone will find out this information and then everything they have worked so hard for will disappear, as gamblers will immediately think that if a casino owner is willing to cheat them in this way then they will think about the many different ways in which the casino can cheat them and then never play there ever again.

Right. Casinos who aim to be bigger won't do cheating. I think most successful casinos gained credibility because they have strict rules and regulations to ensure fairness and transparency in their operations. In fact, some even hire third party companies that will audit and verify their games' fairness and randomness.  A casino's success is built on its reputation for fairness and transparency and if their customers perceive that they are being cheated more other customers will eventually catch on and stop playing at that casino. Anyway, not cheating in your customers is the right thing to do.

Personally, I pay very less attention to bonuses. Provided the casino is honest enough to give me my winning and they don't do any shady things with my account or fund them I'm cool. I only use casinos I trust.

There's actually no way to know if they actually keep their word but I believe it's just a marketing strategy.  They may actually give to some customers as you said and I also believe they will give to their regulars. Casinos make a lot of money so giving out bonuses to their regulars shouldn't be an issue for them because that money is just peanuts compared to what they make daily.

That's admiring of you. You know what you want and you know what your limits are, so regardless what a casino will offer, you won't get manipulated to bet more and more. I'm not sure if it is just me but I  think casinos use their facilities like offering players free food or hotel rooms can encourage them to stay longer and gamble more or giving them alcoholic drinks because sometimes those who are under the influence of alcohol are more likely to make impulsive decisions and gamble more than they otherwise would. These bonuses or loyalty programs are used as well to encourage players to gamble more because they'll be given a freebie for reaching a certain level of play or may be offered special perks such as access to exclusive tournaments.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Cling18 on April 08, 2023, 04:02:21 PM
I rarely take part in bonus programs, but it is important for me that the draw is fair. The prizes were small, but they were credited in full, and it's cool, it's like a small deposit bonus. Most often,new casinos launch a lot of promotional companies and it is impossible to track their transparency, since the project does not yet have a reputation and only live reviews can prove it.

Yes, that's why some new casinos hired influencers so they can be promoted in different channels that might help them to have users. Before , I heard there are some twitch streamers who promotes some gambling activities . Transparency must be one of the main thing that an online gambling website should focus , no gambler wants to be cheated of course.

There are reputable casinos that aren't afraid to show off how their bonuses and events draw run. They do it through live streams or post the winners in their community. When it comes to new casinos, I don't think streamers are reliable or even providing real or trusted results because they can fake it since they are being paid and their main goal is to promote the casino to attract more players. New casinos would fake even their transparency to gain the trust of most players.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: dimonstration on April 08, 2023, 05:29:23 PM
There are reputable casinos that aren't afraid to show off how their bonuses and events draw run. They do it through live streams or post the winners in their community. When it comes to new casinos, I don't think streamers are reliable or even providing real or trusted results because they can fake it since they are being paid and their main goal is to promote the casino to attract more players. New casinos would fake even their transparency to gain the trust of most players.

Duelbits is one of the few reputable casino that always deliver a fair and transparent draw to all their giveaway. They always announce their winner to the public same with their grand event like Christmas and Easter Giveaway that always being drawn live with the use of livestream. In fact there’s already some user here that manage to win on live draw on previous giveaway.

I encounter casino that do the shady draw for the result and most of them are just new or they don’t have a decent number of players that makes them so pathetic to cheat their own giveaway.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: panganib999 on April 08, 2023, 05:44:23 PM
Reputable casinos wouldn't be so wise to do skimp on rewards as they know the most how these things retain and entice customers. If they're found to be cheating on the very thing that keeps most players in their site, you can bet your sweet bippy that everyone will just start flocking towards their competitor. The casinos know this much, and so if you think the casino you're playing with is doing this, then maybe you should rethink your choices and switch! Loyalty is very rarely rewarded in this industry anyway  so it wouldn't hurt to switch to a different bookie, a different site, or a different casino. If it's going to give you the peace of mind that the casino's not pulling tricks on you or whatnot, then a switch is most necessary.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: BobK71 on April 08, 2023, 05:59:31 PM
Not sure if they are legit or truly giving it away but the problem is that they are gathering players from this style and yes there are almost every gambling site gives this kind of information and luring.
how I wonder that would be the actual reaction of each players that they think being fooled on that way, because for me there are no assurance if this is right and true.
so don't fall into promises instead make sure you are dealing with honest site and not just to lure and run .
I think casinos with a good reputation don't really have anything to prove since everyone knows that they do pay the bonuses, etc. that they promise but the platforms that are relatively new in the market are probably questioned for not being honest enough with their customers.
Along with good casinos there are some scam projects in the market where it is their job to cheat the gamblers. There are others some schemes that try to make foolish to the gamblers with various conditions. However, there are good and reliable gambling sites that are ready to provide maximum benefits to the gamblers. But everything is depends on which site a gambler chooses. Since there are many competitors in gambling market, those who enter the market with good intention always try to be honest and transparent to the gamblers.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: decodx on April 08, 2023, 07:45:19 PM
I agree that transparency is essential for any online gambling website. Players want to know that they have a fair chance of winning, and that the results are not being manipulated in any way. It's good to hear that some reputable casinos are being transparent about their bonus programs and events. However, as was mentioned earlier, some of new casinos may not have a reputation yet, and it can be difficult to know if their bonus programs are fair and transparent. And also, some influencers and streamers may not be providing real or trusted results. That's why it's important to look for influencers and streamers who have a reputation for honesty and transparency, and who are not just in it for the money. Reading reviews and doing some research can help you avoid any potential scams or rip-offs.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Lida93 on April 08, 2023, 09:03:29 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

Transparency amongst casinos is a key component to building trust and good reputation from the gamblers, hence every gambler is desperate to make use of those casinos they feel have a good level of transparency.

If we should critically look into this matter it could be discovered that one out of five casino's maintain a considerable level of transparency about their bonus offers while the rest are only camouflaging in the bid to attract more customers. And that's why it's recommended that every gambler should take in the time to do checks reviews and search for necessary informations about any potential online casino he wants to make use of. With this narrative put in place many casinos may risk low clientage and promotion, by that, transparency will be giving a serious attention than it's currently does among casinos.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: goinmerry on April 08, 2023, 11:58:40 PM
How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

I think there's technically no way for users to know that real deal about that.

I'm more of will just rely and depend on the site's reputation and believed they won't do some crappy things about that.

Not unless the site themselves will show a way to at least prove the fairness.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Chikito on April 09, 2023, 02:23:07 AM
However, as was mentioned earlier, some of new casinos may not have a reputation yet, and it can be difficult to know if their bonus programs are fair and transparent.
The only way to know if they pay the bonus is to try that casino, but of course, we will face doubt. It's okay if the new casino doesn't require KYC, we can try the casino if just register the username, spend a little money, try to get winning, and know if they pay the bonus. but it's hard to find something like that because Legit Casino today always requires for KYC.

So, the other way to know if they pay the bonus is by reading the preview, and the honest preview we can read is the bitcointalk forum.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: len01 on April 09, 2023, 07:50:26 AM
I agree that transparency is essential for any online gambling website. Players want to know that they have a fair chance of winning, and that the results are not being manipulated in any way. It's good to hear that some reputable casinos are being transparent about their bonus programs and events. However, as was mentioned earlier, some of new casinos may not have a reputation yet, and it can be difficult to know if their bonus programs are fair and transparent. And also, some influencers and streamers may not be providing real or trusted results. That's why it's important to look for influencers and streamers who have a reputation for honesty and transparency, and who are not just in it for the money. Reading reviews and doing some research can help you avoid any potential scams or rip-offs.

casinos that are already popular will definitely be more transparent to all their customers and always give their best for the reputation that has been built long ago.
regarding new casinos that are not transparent with customers there is a possibility that they just want to draw attention from some big bonus that is distributed but not according to what is said and the customer only believes that it is distributed according to what the casino says.
but it's hard to see how transparent a casino is to its customers in terms of distributing bonus prizes at certain events and I think choosing a casino that is already popular and has a good reputation, it's best to be clear transparent to its customers.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: sashapan on April 09, 2023, 08:04:59 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Check it probably still impossible, but there are casinos for which these drops are an insignificant loss, so I think there is no point in cheating, and to get the drops need a good turnover - which is profitable for the casino, so if the casino says 2.500 activation, then so it is - why he trifle ::)


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: dezoel on April 09, 2023, 03:38:30 PM
Personally, I pay very less attention to bonuses. Provided the casino is honest enough to give me my winning and they don't do any shady things with my account or fund them I'm cool. I only use casinos I trust.

There's actually no way to know if they actually keep their word but I believe it's just a marketing strategy.  They may actually give to some customers as you said and I also believe they will give to their regulars. Casinos make a lot of money so giving out bonuses to their regulars shouldn't be an issue for them because that money is just peanuts compared to what they make daily.
Even if they were giving away money, as you said, it wouldn't really cause them any harm as they probably make way too much profit and give away only a very small portion of it to the gamblers, but, they don't really give away money. It could be called money if it was cash balance given and was withdrawable without any requirements.

But bonuses aren't money and shouldn't be considered that, they are just bonuses or you could say, are chances given to players so that they can try and win some money with it, if they fail, it's gone, and even if they succeed, there are certain conditions to be met before they can cash it out.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: slapper on April 09, 2023, 05:10:06 PM
Personally, I pay very less attention to bonuses. Provided the casino is honest enough to give me my winning and they don't do any shady things with my account or fund them I'm cool. I only use casinos I trust.

There's actually no way to know if they actually keep their word but I believe it's just a marketing strategy.  They may actually give to some customers as you said and I also believe they will give to their regulars. Casinos make a lot of money so giving out bonuses to their regulars shouldn't be an issue for them because that money is just peanuts compared to what they make daily.
Even if they were giving away money, as you said, it wouldn't really cause them any harm as they probably make way too much profit and give away only a very small portion of it to the gamblers, but, they don't really give away money. It could be called money if it was cash balance given and was withdrawable without any requirements.

But bonuses aren't money and shouldn't be considered that, they are just bonuses or you could say, are chances given to players so that they can try and win some money with it, if they fail, it's gone, and even if they succeed, there are certain conditions to be met before they can cash it out.
Gota love the mind games in gambling bonuses, am I right? On the surface, they're like a big casino bear hug, rewarding us for sticking around. But scratch beneath the glittery surface, and it's a whole other story – they're manipulating us to keep coming back for more.

These bonuses don't just fall from the sky, folks. They're cuningly cooked up to tug at our heartstrings (and wallets). The sweet-talking offers, the sneaky fine print – it's all engineered for maximum psychological impact.

But even with all the mind-bending, who can resist the adrenaline rush of a bonus? Racing to meet the wagering demands or dreaming of that life-changing win, it's undeniable that bonuses give gambling that extra shot of pizzazz.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Eureka_07 on April 09, 2023, 05:16:49 PM
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It would consume some time and effort to their part just to list all of the users who were able to get their drop. Though I think that it is a good function to be added, to their side, I know they have to consider various things before implementing it.

Some are honest, some are not. And we won't be able to tell which is which.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: molsewid on April 09, 2023, 05:24:51 PM
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It would consume some time and effort to their part just to list all of the users who were able to get their drop. Though I think that it is a good function to be added, to their side, I know they have to consider various things before implementing it.

Some are honest, some are not. And we won't be able to tell which is which.
hmmm, it will but at some point there's already an AI they can easily compile all things. They can also show some winners in their website just put a little banner in the website and hide some characters for the privacy of other people. but then if we don't believe that a certain casino is fair and transparent then even those simplest things then let's not gamble on it. if you're suspicious then don't try that casino.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: panganib999 on April 09, 2023, 06:54:51 PM
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It would consume some time and effort to their part just to list all of the users who were able to get their drop. Though I think that it is a good function to be added, to their side, I know they have to consider various things before implementing it.

Some are honest, some are not. And we won't be able to tell which is which.
I suppose to provide peace of mind over people a small change in a reputable casino's site isn't that much of a problem isn't it? They can even just go over and do something like what's present in this forum where spreadsheets that are backlinked to a post could be made to fully list the names and details of the people who were able to obtain their bonuses. Plus they can automate the process and sort through the countless lists of accounts that are confirmed to have had bonuses enjoyed, nothing is really impossible in their case if they want to follow through with it.

Some casinos may do this, especially ones that are in this forum and are enthusiastically observing customer's feedback, but I doubt the whole industry will incorporate something like this, for one, this is soft-doxxing since you're letting everyone know of a gambler's username.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: el kaka22 on April 09, 2023, 06:58:55 PM
It is not about what they give you, it is about how they convince you that matters. There are tons of casinos giving away insane amount of money just to make sure that they can bag another gambler, because they know that even if they give you hundreds of dollars, if they can convince you to stay just once, then the rest of the gambling you do there would be a profit for them. Imagine giving a gambler a full year, do you think they will not gamble more than a few hundred dollars there?

This is why they do give out so much, but if it is a scam casino that takes it's time to grow, and when there is a lot of money in the bank, they may scam and just leave with it, so you need to be always careful where you gamble.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on April 09, 2023, 07:14:29 PM
I suppose to provide peace of mind over people a small change in a reputable casino's site isn't that much of a problem isn't it? They can even just go over and do something like what's present in this forum where spreadsheets that are backlinked to a post could be made to fully list the names and details of the people who were able to obtain their bonuses. Plus they can automate the process and sort through the countless lists of accounts that are confirmed to have had bonuses enjoyed, nothing is really impossible in their case if they want to follow through with it.

Some casinos may do this, especially ones that are in this forum and are enthusiastically observing customer's feedback, but I doubt the whole industry will incorporate something like this, for one, this is soft-doxxing since you're letting everyone know of a gambler's username.

This is actually one way to go since it would make the process be more transparent. But since gambling is involved by majority that don't want their identity to be exposed, it would not probably work for all. I think there is no concrete way to validate these drops and see how they actually do these process. Since there is no regulation to most of these, there is no guarantee that it would do the actual process so reviews of people who got something from these is not that significant because even that can be manipulated


Well, i can only say one thing here. With dishonesty, the casino may gain few gamblers but in the long term they will lose the players and their business cannot survive and grow
On the other hand, if the casino is honest, the gamblers will be retained, they won't look for a new better casino and hence it will be good for the long term business.

Now it's up to the casinos how they want to operate and be successful in a world where there is a lot of competition. If a gambling casino is found to be dishonest, I am afraid gamblers will leave the casino forever, and it's hard to regain the trust of the casino.

I agree with these. I think there would always be a way for the people to know how legitimate the site is when it was experienced first hand by people. Every dishonesty would be found at no time. Trusting casinos is a big deal since money is involved in these and people tend to be very cautious. So, for me, I think majority of casinos are honest in giving these drops since these kind of marketing strategy is very effective to gain more customers and they probably do not want to ruin their image in the gambling industry.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Viscore on April 09, 2023, 08:27:51 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

We will never know, just like when others accused casinos of cheating them and that the casino's are not fair. Not unless they will have to show us the name of the gamblers that have received the drop and they themselves confirmed it. But as gamblers in crypto, we wanted to remain as private and anonymous so I doubt that casinos will give us the names or the gamblers confirming that they've got the drop.

So for me there's no way to confirmed it.
I also think that it’s not even necessary to know the list of those who were given the drop, for what? Whatever it is, casinos have all the right either to disclose or to keep it private since it’s just a bonus and it’s not that they should be obliged to give that. What I am more concern is their transparency and honesty when it comes to releasing our funds especially for big wins. Otherwise, it will cause a big problem not just to the player but even to the casino’s reputation.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: serjent05 on April 09, 2023, 11:27:43 PM

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

You can do it manually,by sending unsolicited email to all users if you happen to have their e-mail, or if just keep quiet and think or believe that they do airdropped the amount to the stated numbers.  I would rather choose the second option, because there is no way that a regular player can have an access to the e-mails of every player of the casino.

So in your question:

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Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

I have no comment since I really don't know if they are really true to their words and I have no way to verify if they are not if I believe the don't.  Besides Casino will not give the list of players whom they sent their airdrop.  So I think let us not think too much and just mind our own gameplay.  It is more enjoyable than being stressed of the thinking that the casino is not true to its words on its airdrop activities.  Besides what matters is that you receive the airdrop if you got qualified for the airdrop event.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: tbterryboy on April 10, 2023, 05:14:01 PM
Funnily enough, they have one of the simplest business models on the planet. Build some games that can take in money, build enough security around them in many forms to keep the funds safe, hire a customer service team and then try to acquire as many new customers (including via special promotions) because each new one will generally be handing you free money because they don't understand the odds involved. Sportbooks get slightly more complicated as you need to do a lot of data crunching and analysis, even if outsourced, in order to be able to offer competitive odds and also make sure that you're not getting tricked in all sorts of different ways like match fixing.
It only looks simple but the reality is it isn't. You need to build games, market the casino, hire different people, and so on. Managing a casino can also be stressful just like any other business. A casino can't always make money because there are players who can win and then there are hackers and abusers who sap funds from the casino. I think we are getting far from the topic, so let's go back on it shall we?

@OP as per my observation, I never see a casino who is transparent when it comes to this matter. They only put the total amount but they never put a list if who claim all those money. Like you, many people and myself have complained about this before but casinos are still doing the same scheme. They think this was only normal.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: dollarday on April 10, 2023, 11:59:55 PM
I think that it depends on the time the casino has been established in business, where it's located and how much it values reputation.
 I have gotten bonuses, comped rooms, free show tickets, free buffets and thousands of dollars in play credits.

From my favorite two online casinos they have always honored deposit bonuses and all of it's promos. One has better video poker odds than most casinos and they have always paid out fairly, no matter how big the win. It's amazing really.

I recommend signing up for all membership programs at every casino that you frequent and taking advantage of all advertised bonuses and free plays if you are playing during those time periods.

In Vegas on Fremont, a free steak dinner for an hour of game play can be enough of a bonus to play a few hands and leave a little up or at break even. This giveaways are included in the budget and just go to waste if you don't take advantage of them.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: rodskee on April 11, 2023, 03:35:26 AM
Not sure if they are legit or truly giving it away but the problem is that they are gathering players from this style and yes there are almost every gambling site gives this kind of information and luring.
how I wonder that would be the actual reaction of each players that they think being fooled on that way, because for me there are no assurance if this is right and true.
so don't fall into promises instead make sure you are dealing with honest site and not just to lure and run .
Every business uses some marketing technique to attract customers, it can involve bonuses, giveaways, trials, and the list goes on. Now, the customer that joins that business needs to make sure that they get what they were promised before joining, and if they get that, they wouldn't have any issues whether the company or the project is paying others or not.
and being a costumer  or player, we must also learn first before dealing is it right? because not all those who offers bonuses and giveaways meaning they are legit and trust worthy .
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I think casinos with a good reputation don't really have anything to prove since everyone knows that they do pay the bonuses, etc. that they promise but the platforms that are relatively new in the market are probably questioned for not being honest enough with their customers.
wrong mate, even reputable casino has their own detractors so they must always prove themselves being that good or else their reputation will end like that.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: tazmantasik on April 11, 2023, 03:45:37 AM
Nice question to know about any casino transparent with bonuses drop? exactly with referral bonuses sign up for participants who has many referral will get bonuses but in the casino website show details with bonus leaderboard with give us transaction deposit history. Almost gambling casino platform seems not transparent about bonuses drop to their member, maybe if any casino want to show us the transaction hash detail we know they have give and distribution reward for the qualify member, if not show us transaction ID still questionable about honest or not with casino gambling.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Pierre 2 on April 11, 2023, 04:39:10 AM
I think most online casinos that we see on visible side of internet is pretty regulated so I don't have doubts they tend to follow specific rules. In some countries such operations like extra money bonus/rewards should be done in observation of notary to avoid cheating. Well obviously there must be some casinos which are under radar and they might be violating law. But such cases must be very rare. We are living in 2023 so in such cases one appointment to law may cause gambling operation to end. Its risky and profitable business.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Fiatless on April 11, 2023, 04:57:39 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

Business owners are humans and some humans are straightforward while others are not transparent. Some casinos keep their promise and they are also open to public scrutiny. While other are not and they keep their business dealing secretly so that customers will never have access to them. I am sure that some casinos fulfill all their promotion promises to their customers because they want to maintain or increase their reputation. While others don't care about what people think or say about them because their main focus is not to satisfy customers but to make outrageous profits.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: jostorres on April 11, 2023, 08:22:45 PM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this.. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P
Check it probably still impossible, but there are casinos for which these drops are an insignificant loss, so I think there is no point in cheating, and to get the drops need a good turnover - which is profitable for the casino, so if the casino says 2.500 activation, then so it is - why he trifle ::)
I think OP was probably referring to the airdrops that are done without any turnover or wagering requirements but just to random gamblers, and that is exactly the reason why he said how a gambler would know if the casino is actually transparent about airdropping rewards to the exact same amount as mentioned or they just do it to some and don't give away all the rewards.

But you are actually right that casinos surely get what they need back from such promotions since mostly more gamblers join the platform and even do deposits only to become eligible users of the platform to get a chance for the airdrop.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: stomachgrowls on April 11, 2023, 08:28:50 PM
I think most online casinos that we see on visible side of internet is pretty regulated so I don't have doubts they tend to follow specific rules. In some countries such operations like extra money bonus/rewards should be done in observation of notary to avoid cheating. Well obviously there must be some casinos which are under radar and they might be violating law. But such cases must be very rare. We are living in 2023 so in such cases one appointment to law may cause gambling operation to end. Its risky and profitable business.
Why it is really that hard to make your business that regulated? Are they really jus that too serious on avoiding up taxes or whatever deductions? I cant really see a reason on why a business owner would really be having that operation under the radar but its true that majority now are on compliance on what the government had set into. When it comes to transparency then it would really be that depending because not all would really be that honest and transparent enough but well we arent that blind not to see those differences and this is why we should really make use of our own will and common sense on which one would be worth.
So its up to your personal choice whether which one.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Silberman on April 12, 2023, 04:28:27 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

Business owners are humans and some humans are straightforward while others are not transparent. Some casinos keep their promise and they are also open to public scrutiny. While other are not and they keep their business dealing secretly so that customers will never have access to them. I am sure that some casinos fulfill all their promotion promises to their customers because they want to maintain or increase their reputation. While others don't care about what people think or say about them because their main focus is not to satisfy customers but to make outrageous profits.
But the paradox is that only those casino owners which actually care about their clients will obtain the success they are aiming for, an owner which does not care about their customers will show this on their policies, not giving bonuses, very high wagering requirements, mandatory KYC if you win any money, cheating their customers with cheap excuses and many more things they do which shows they do not care about anything other than their profits, however an owner which cares will do the opposite and their customers will notice, and eventually they will prefer to gamble at the casino which gives them the best treatment and make the persons behind that casino incredibly successful.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: slapper on April 12, 2023, 07:01:48 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

Business owners are humans and some humans are straightforward while others are not transparent. Some casinos keep their promise and they are also open to public scrutiny. While other are not and they keep their business dealing secretly so that customers will never have access to them. I am sure that some casinos fulfill all their promotion promises to their customers because they want to maintain or increase their reputation. While others don't care about what people think or say about them because their main focus is not to satisfy customers but to make outrageous profits.
But the paradox is that only those casino owners which actually care about their clients will obtain the success they are aiming for, an owner which does not care about their customers will show this on their policies, not giving bonuses, very high wagering requirements, mandatory KYC if you win any money, cheating their customers with cheap excuses and many more things they do which shows they do not care about anything other than their profits, however an owner which cares will do the opposite and their customers will notice, and eventually they will prefer to gamble at the casino which gives them the best treatment and make the persons behind that casino incredibly successful.
Ain't it a peculiar contradiction? It's amusing how showing love to your patrons can be the magic formula in the ruthless arena of casinos. You know what they say, "You'll attract more flies with honey than with vinegar."

But on the real, it adds up. Casinos that take care of their clientele, showering them with bonuses, fair wagering demands, and just policies will earn devoted fans who'll spread the good word. On the flip side, casinos that deceive or mistreat their customers will quickly earn a notorious rep, sealing their fate.

In a nutshell, if you're running a casino, caring for your customers is the key to long-term success. Show them love, and they'll keep coming back for more action. At the end of the day, the customer knows best, especially when they're putting their chips on the line!


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: Huppercase on April 12, 2023, 07:52:01 AM
I have seen several casinos with promotions where they do "drops" to thousands of people or they give bonuses to several gamblers, but how transparent is this process?

Do you think casinos are really doing these drops to 1000s of people or are they skimming from the top.... ? They might say a drop is for 2500 people, but they might only drop for 500 people and nobody will know. Yes, some of those 500 people will report that they have received the drop and it will look legit.... but is it really?

How can the gamblers verify that the actual amount of people are receiving the drop or the bonus, if there are no list to verify it? Let's discuss this. I am curious if other people also thought about this...  :P

Business owners are humans and some humans are straightforward while others are not transparent. Some casinos keep their promise and they are also open to public scrutiny. While other are not and they keep their business dealing secretly so that customers will never have access to them. I am sure that some casinos fulfill all their promotion promises to their customers because they want to maintain or increase their reputation. While others don't care about what people think or say about them because their main focus is not to satisfy customers but to make outrageous profits.

Is there a casino that disregards public opinion and criticism towards their betting site? If a casino doesn't address the concerns and feedback from its customers, it implies that they don't value its customers' experiences. As a reputable company that is focused on making profits and building a reputation empire, it's essential to prioritize the needs of the people around them. Even if a casino has a good reputation at the start, if they fail to address problems that arise as they grow, it will eventually lose customers and end up with a dwindling player base.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: TopTort777 on April 12, 2023, 08:05:22 AM
OP has risen a very tricky question. On one side we have crypto casinos, crypto, that supposed to be transparent. On the other hand it is anonymity, which means we will never find out the truth. Third side of the coin (lol) is that this is a closed business. Casinos will never share any data about their working processes for public.

If we speak specifically about bonuses, then there is no truth. Or better say we should not try to find trust there, as they are part of promotion. They should not supposed to be honest or dishonest, transparent or shady. Their goal is different. I think they are just like a flashy paper wrap. Like people really trust that they can buy a candy, register receipt and win a car or ticket to Disneyland? Buy a box of cookies and win a travel to Canary islands? Most people dont believe in that, however companies report that someone really won their major prize.

I believe that a person can win few bucks from casinos boxes, eggs and other stuff (drops), but "win our Lamborghini" is just a flashy banner.


Title: Re: How honest and transparent are casinos?
Post by: AicecreaME on April 12, 2023, 09:44:34 AM

Business owners are humans and some humans are straightforward while others are not transparent. Some casinos keep their promise and they are also open to public scrutiny. While other are not and they keep their business dealing secretly so that customers will never have access to them. I am sure that some casinos fulfill all their promotion promises to their customers because they want to maintain or increase their reputation. While others don't care about what people think or say about them because their main focus is not to satisfy customers but to make outrageous profits.

Is there a casino that disregards public opinion and criticism towards their betting site? If a casino doesn't address the concerns and feedback from its customers, it implies that they don't value its customers' experiences. As a reputable company that is focused on making profits and building a reputation empire, it's essential to prioritize the needs of the people around them. Even if a casino has a good reputation at the start, if they fail to address problems that arise as they grow, it will eventually lose customers and end up with a dwindling player base.

As far as I know, those casinos that value their reputation will not disregard the opinion and suggestions of the players for the betterment of their website, service, and brand itself. It will be damaging to the casino website if they will leave the concerns and issue of their players on deaf ears. By not entertaining their queries and suggestions, you give them the reason to doubt your quality of service and your motive behind establishing the business. The moment the player lose their trust would mean that you failed to bring satisfaction and thus, should be ready for the consequences such as losing regulars and potential clients as well.

It is indeed essential for a company to have a good customer representative to provide resolution for the minor or major problems the players encounter. Prioritizing the people  who give you income is what any businessmen should do after all if they want to stay operating for the long run.