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April 04, 2023, 06:22:50 AM
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I've been thinking about something for a long time, so I thought I'd share my thoughts with you today. All around us we see many underprivileged people who are living their lives in hardship. And seeing the condition of some people that they can't even eat properly, a thought came to my mind that I could do something for them. But I am a very little person and it is not possible for me to do so much even if I wanted to. But all these things can be done if everyone wants sincerely.

We know that the most virtuous month of Muslims, that is, the month of Ramadan, is going on. In this month of Ramadan, all Muslims abstain from all food and drink for a certain period of time to please Allah. And at the end of a certain time they break the fast. And normal families usually have lots of fruits and dates in Iftar but I have seen several families who drink only water in Iftar because of their poverty. And there are many who observe the fast by eating mudri or chira during Sehri, even though these things are very difficult for them. And the biggest religious event of Muslims is Eid-ul-Fitr, that is, Muslims celebrate this festival after fasting for a long month. Usually everyone buys some new clothes around the biggest religious event of Muslims but those who suffer from poverty cannot buy new clothes on Eid even if they want to. If we stand by them regardless of religion, maybe their religious ceremonies will go well. So if we can stand by their side from our own ability, maybe we will get a lot of self-satisfaction from our hearts.

So you can help as much as you can according to your ability. And if you give your opinion then all our help can be pooled in one place and many families can be helped from there.

 I just shared my thoughts with you. If you think my idea is right then we can move forward.

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April 04, 2023, 07:31:56 AM
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You have got a nice idea mate, helping people in need is one major quality that defines a good person. Especially now in the Ramadan feast, most people don't have much to celebrate with so if give them a little help will help make this feast a big one for them, then I see no reason why we shouldn't help them. Also don't you think that you made this post in the wrong thread??
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April 04, 2023, 07:56:20 AM
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Also don't you think that you made this post in the wrong thread??
At first this threat didn't seem wrong to me. Because I noticed that maximum people in this thread are involved in investing in Bitcoin. Since Maximum members are involved in investment, they can distribute a portion of the profit earned through their investment to the poor and needy if they wish.  That is, help the underprivileged people through Bitcoin.

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April 04, 2023, 08:40:29 AM
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Nice initiative! but how do you plan to do this? 

Mind you, the members can be skeptical (for good reasons) plus we have seen donation scams popping every now and then. Hence, before anything else, I suggest presenting a plan on how do you prevent their money from going to someone else's vacation trip.

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April 04, 2023, 08:41:32 AM
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they can distribute a portion of the profit earned through their investment to the poor and needy if they wish.  That is, help the underprivileged people through Bitcoin.
This situation is very suit for this idiom.

Give a Man a Fish, and You Feed Him for a Day. Teach a Man To Fish, and You Feed Him for a Lifetime

But you're talking about Muslims here, most of Muslims don't want to get involved with Bitcoin even though you're already convert it to fiat. So if you're want to make a donation or give a food for them, make sure you already tell them if the money or food come from Bitcoin and let them decide to receive or reject your offer.

Teaching them about Bitcoin looks not possible too.

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April 04, 2023, 09:04:23 AM
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Nice initiative! but how do you plan to do this? 

Mind you, the members can be skeptical (for good reasons) plus we have seen donation scams popping every now and then. Hence, before anything else, I suggest presenting a plan on how do you prevent their money from going to someone else's vacation trip.
First of all I think if it is possible then everyone's donation amount can be distributed to everyone in one place.  But since the amount of fraud is so high nowadays, it will be very difficult to collect all the money. There is another way if we all help the needy people around us according to our ability rather than pooling money.  Then there will be no fear of being cheated in everyone's mind.
they can distribute a portion of the profit earned through their investment to the poor and needy if they wish.  That is, help the underprivileged people through Bitcoin.
This situation is very suit for this idiom.

Give a Man a Fish, and You Feed Him for a Day. Teach a Man To Fish, and You Feed Him for a Lifetime

But you're talking about Muslims here, most of Muslims don't want to get involved with Bitcoin even though you're already convert it to fiat. So if you're want to make a donation or give a food for them, make sure you already tell them if the money or food come from Bitcoin and let them decide to receive or reject your offer.

Teaching them about Bitcoin looks not possible too.
Our plan is to help the poor and underprivileged people scattered around us. I don't think Bitcoin will pose much of a barrier to them here.  Because we are doing things thinking about the welfare of people.

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April 04, 2023, 09:47:19 AM
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Nice initiative! but how do you plan to do this? 

Mind you, the members can be skeptical (for good reasons) plus we have seen donation scams popping every now and then. Hence, before anything else, I suggest presenting a plan on how do you prevent their money from going to someone else's vacation trip.
First of all I think if it is possible then everyone's donation amount can be distributed to everyone in one place.  But since the amount of fraud is so high nowadays, it will be very difficult to collect all the money. There is another way if we all help the needy people around us according to our ability rather than pooling money.  Then there will be no fear of being cheated in everyone's mind.
they can distribute a portion of the profit earned through their investment to the poor and needy if they wish.  That is, help the underprivileged people through Bitcoin.
This situation is very suit for this idiom.

Give a Man a Fish, and You Feed Him for a Day. Teach a Man To Fish, and You Feed Him for a Lifetime

But you're talking about Muslims here, most of Muslims don't want to get involved with Bitcoin even though you're already convert it to fiat. So if you're want to make a donation or give a food for them, make sure you already tell them if the money or food come from Bitcoin and let them decide to receive or reject your offer.

Teaching them about Bitcoin looks not possible too.

Our plan is to help the poor and underprivileged people scattered around us. I don't think Bitcoin will pose much of a barrier to them here.  Because we are doing things thinking about the welfare of people.

I agree, since a lot of scammers are everywhere even its for donation they would scam it. The best way to accumulate the donations would be send it to the charity in the place where they want to donate the money. If Bitcoin is the problem for them to receive the donations given, then it would be better to convert it to fiat money then don't mention the Bitcoin. If you really have good intentions of helping people then it would be better to give without promoting Bitcoin. I've seen a lot of donations that are from Bitcoin but kept mentioning Bitcoin despite of the issue. Good heart people doesn't mind to be mentioned for every help they give, but would be happy the fact they helped people. Here in my country you could donate using digital currency to legal charities to avoid scammers. And you could actually see where your money went as they provide the needs of unprivileged people.

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April 04, 2023, 09:47:58 AM
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Our plan is to help the poor and underprivileged people scattered around us. I don't think Bitcoin will pose much of a barrier to them here.  Because we are doing things thinking about the welfare of people.
But in the OP I didn't catch what you want to achieve with bitcoin? I don't think that bitcoin is any more special for things like this and ultimately the poor have no access to bitcoin. As you said, "all these things can be done if everyone wants sincerely". It doesn't have to be with bitcoins or certain economic circumstances.

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April 04, 2023, 10:38:31 AM
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Giving through bitcoin channel is someth that will help others learn from bitcoin and have interest in knowing more about bitcoin, many people have been engahed in this kind of charitable acts by giving to the less privilege, this can now come in different forms, some have decided in giving out bitcoin itself to others in other to help increase adoption and make it not only as gift but an investment asset for them to enjoy later in life while other give out in monetary cash or food items and other items, but the good about it all lies in giving hands.
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April 04, 2023, 10:43:52 AM
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Also don't you think that you made this post in the wrong thread??
At first this threat didn't seem wrong to me. Because I noticed that maximum people in this thread are involved in investing in Bitcoin. Since Maximum members are involved in investment, they can distribute a portion of the profit earned through their investment to the poor and needy if they wish.  That is, help the underprivileged people through Bitcoin.
Good to see this happening but not everyone can afford to take out some percentage of their earnings because they are also trying to earn a living on bitcoins to. Maybe the least we can do for those under privileged people is to share our knowledge about it since this can test how eager they are to get out on poverty.

Some might get interested about it but some of them might ignore the information they can learn since there are few people used to get easy money by asking aid to other people. So choose people who have potential and not those people got caught their interest because they have free money to get.

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I don't feel this is the right board for your post, BTC was written in your thread subject, but in the post i don't see how what you said relates to helping people with BTC, we can help the underprivileged with any currency, and it is better to give them fiat that they can spend quicker and easier than give them BTC.

There are people who help others everyday, and i don't feel people need to be reminded to help others, it is something they do by themselves. Donation threads are also not allowed in the forum if that is what you are suggesting.

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April 04, 2023, 11:13:53 AM
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I don't see how you planned to help these people using Bitcoin, all I read is about fasting period and helping Muslims, you never made mentioned using Bitcoin to help them. You called yourself a very little person, do you mean the financial side? If you are still struggling I will advise you to keep working on yourself, do not go out of your boundary because you feel like you should help them.

The sad truth is there will always be people who are in need, and poverty can't be erased from the surface of the earth, if you think this is a lie you will go broke yourself and become like them. If you want to be a great helper of people, work on yourself and make sure you are in good shape first, you can't be making less and your own life is looking miserable and you want to help others, help yourself first.

Do your best that's within your limit today, for Ramadan's sake, and leave the rest, there is always a tomorrow, you can still help them more in the future, but only if you are in good shape financially.
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April 04, 2023, 12:41:00 PM
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Nice initiative, your generous heart has no comparison. All you said is nice to assist the less privilege at this period of Ramadan,but my own suggestion is that we should give this people in our various communities whatever we can to assist them to break their fast. Muslims are everywhere,and also less privilege people are everywhere, with this nobody will know what you are giving because it is between you and your heart. Doing donations for this will not be condole by many forum members, due to so much scam around the corner and nobody knows who is a scammer,until you have been scammed. Another problem is that the Muslims don't buy the idea of bitcoin and might not accept your offer,if you tell them that it was bitcoin that you used to get them those stuffs.
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I don't feel this is the right board for your post, BTC was written in your thread subject, but in the post i don't see how what you said relates to helping people with BTC, we can help the underprivileged with any currency, and it is better to give them fiat that they can spend quicker and easier than give them BTC.
First of all I did not say that only BTC can help. He will help as much as he can. The main purpose of posting here is to maximize member's income of this thread through Bitcoin and other Crypto means. So I mean to spend some amount of money from the amount of money we earn from Bitcoin and Crypto currency for the underprivileged people whether through paper money or any other means.
There are people who help others everyday, and i don't feel people need to be reminded to help others, it is something they do by themselves. Donation threads are also not allowed in the forum if that is what you are suggesting.
It is not the responsibility or duty of those who help the poor.  But it is their humanity. Out of humanity they stand beside the poor and help them in various ways. If we sit on the trust of those who help all the time that they are there to help, then the number of people to help in the world will decrease.  Rather, we can create a helping mindset through inspiration from them. This will reduce their stress even a little. And at the end of the day we humans help humans is the religion of humans

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April 04, 2023, 02:35:50 PM
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There have been many of such initiatives on this forum in previous times from several reputable members here.

Your idea is very good, but you have to be the first to make the move if this really want you want to do, you will have to start up a fundraising thread with clear objectives and plans on what exactly the funds to be raised will be used for, and on your own, you have to provide a prove to how much or how many people you have reached out to on your own, note that your prove must be verifiable, this is how the community can trust you.
Further, make and address public, where all the funds raised from the campaign will be stored, and make sure you are very transparent with all the withdrawals from this wallet, you must provide verifiable proves that the money raised are being used for its purpose.

Note that the most important step here is to start the initiative yourself first, carry it on to a certain level before involving the community here.

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Once I returned to my country a few months ago, I've noticed that the population became significantly poorer. I live in Ukraine, so it's not a surprise, considering the war, that people are not doing well and poverty is on the rise. I think I want to do something about it, but I haven't figured out what exactly, aside from small donations to humanitarian aid projects in my country. Bitcoin can be used to collect donations and donations can be used to help people. Is that the approach you envision as well, op? Or do you see a different way of helping fight poverty with Bitcoin? I see from other posts in the thread that the idea is to share profits on investment, but is it supposed to be systemic, at a fixed rate of profit or something, and will Bitcoin be in the end used to buy food and give it to others or will Bitcoin itself be distributed?

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I just shared my thoughts with you. If you think my idea is right then we can move forward.
I will give you a suggestion based on what is going on in my locality. It is good that you have a good heart to do something good for the less fortunate during this holy month of Ramadam. You can call on well meaning individuals in your locality to donate just $2 maybe in bitcoin if bank transfer will be a hassle for them. It will go towards the provision of meals to those who are in need. As it will ensure that these people have access to nutritious and delicious meals to break their fast.

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You can run charity, raise donation in clothes, food, fiat currency, Bitcoin and cryptocurrency and it must not be through Bitcoin.

If you are opened with more means for donation, it is more helpful for your charity initiative.
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It's very important to help the others because in a life there originates some conditions where you will face problems. Now a days managing of life activities become very hard due to lower salaries and higher price of daily uses necessities so all of those who are able to help others should use some money for helping others.

As you mentioned about the bitcoin so I think that bitcoin is an asset that a poor people cannot manage and cannot buy while those who are wealthy make investment in bitcoin but they don't use that money for helping of poor people so I don't think that helping poor people is related with that of bitcoin.

Without having bitcoin people can help each other because without buying bitcoin there are lots of people who are wealthy so they can make the life of other people by providing them useful things of life.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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I don't feel this is the right board for your post, BTC was written in your thread subject, but in the post i don't see how what you said relates to helping people with BTC, we can help the underprivileged with any currency, and it is better to give them fiat that they can spend quicker and easier than give them BTC.

There are people who help others everyday, and i don't feel people need to be reminded to help others, it is something they do by themselves. Donation threads are also not allowed in the forum if that is what you are suggesting.
He means to collect donations in BTC to help underprivileged people around him. However, it's not that easy to start a donation campaign on the internet, because potential donators have already seen too many scams on this niche that they have become suspicious and doubtful of anonymous people asking for money without further details of how this money is going to be used, neither proving any reputation or guarantees to donators.

Donations campaigns are allowed on this forum, though, as I've already seen on some threads before, including one which asked for BTC donations in Pakistan during the floods disaster last year. Many people donated and it was a success.

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