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April 22, 2023, 02:56:13 PM
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Last week, I met one of my uncles-in-law who has been a sailor for many years. In the past decade, he has been out of town and travelling all over the world to make a living. He has two children to raise and being a father who is always absent from their growing-up, he somehow does not know how to get along with his kids once he is back home once a year. In this transition period, usually like one month or two, he will find him some odd jobs  to make money to support his family. Unfortunately in this economic downturn, it is very difficult to find a job so he is quite upset now. Staying at home means no income and this makes my aunt very anxious. This uncle is in mid fifties and he is one of the most diligient people I've ever known. Ever since he was young, he would always keep busy doing all kinds of jobs to make money. I have to say that he made some savings for some years but it was most used up by sending his daughter to study overseas. Under today's economic condition, he has to wait more time to be assigned onboard and it is said his salary will be slashed big next time he has an offer. Well, to make a living, he has to accept that. He used to be a happy-go-lucky guy and always have a smile every day, last week I saw him, he was more like silent and upset.

As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?
Saving money when we are still young is a good preparation for the future, the problem is how can we save money when we don't even have it, or we cannot support our daily needs, then there's nothing left for saving, it is hard specially when we are poor and we only have a minimum wages. I believe that there's a lot of people that is suffering with the situation they wanted to save money but how?.

To meet their daily needs, there is no money left to save, therefore some people have side jobs to meet their needs as well as to prepare themselves in case of an emergency. side jobs will be very helpful if you want to have money saved for the future
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April 22, 2023, 03:24:18 PM
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Getting old doesn't mean you won't work anymore.  I think I will do something when I retire, a job that I love.  If I don't do anything I will quickly get older.  This I learned from the old people in the village.

Family finance is difficult to describe.  It depends on our own spending.  If possible, create food by growing your own vegetables and raising animals like chickens, ducks and pigs.

Always have some money in the bank is the best way to deal with the unexpected.



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April 23, 2023, 11:44:41 PM
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Getting old doesn't mean you won't work anymore.  I think I will do something when I retire, a job that I love.  If I don't do anything I will quickly get older.  This I learned from the old people in the village.

Family finance is difficult to describe.  It depends on our own spending.  If possible, create food by growing your own vegetables and raising animals like chickens, ducks and pigs.

Always have some money in the bank is the best way to deal with the unexpected.
agree, after retiring does not mean not doing activities anymore because by continuing to want to not quickly become forgetful (old) then we have to continue to train our minds with usual activities and what we like, then we will stay fit and well maintained.
finances can continue to decrease if you don't do odd jobs which can at least reduce expenses, because relying on interest from the bank from existing savings certainly cannot be sufficient, or as you do by creating jobs by growing vegetables and animals it will at least reduce the costs incurred might be issued.

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April 23, 2023, 11:49:17 PM
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it's a good idea to enjoy life to the fullest - but we must also not admit the fact that we all have to die sooner or later.
One of my very good doctor friend couple died in a road accident. And I couldn't sleep for past few days. I have lost all the interest in life.
Don't lose your interest in life just because your good friend died. There's more to life and you can have sorrow temporarily but don't let that stop your interest in life. As we grow older, we want to keep things simple, when we're younger what we do is to have fun so we're all done with that but that doesn't mean old folks can't also have fun. We're all working with the best that we can so that we can have a good life and enjoy things that we wanna enjoy. But don't settle for less when we get older because the battle of life gets tougher, too many things are changing and we can't depend on the younger ones in our family as we get older. It's like enjoying the things that we've got now and then not to forget that we've got bigger things that we're preparing in the future.
with time we all grow wiser and mature. And that is the real reality of the life.

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April 23, 2023, 11:55:16 PM
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Last week, I met one of my uncles-in-law who has been a sailor for many years. In the past decade, he has been out of town and travelling all over the world to make a living. He has two children to raise and being a father who is always absent from their growing-up, he somehow does not know how to get along with his kids once he is back home once a year. In this transition period, usually like one month or two, he will find him some odd jobs  to make money to support his family. Unfortunately in this economic downturn, it is very difficult to find a job so he is quite upset now. Staying at home means no income and this makes my aunt very anxious. This uncle is in mid fifties and he is one of the most diligient people I've ever known. Ever since he was young, he would always keep busy doing all kinds of jobs to make money. I have to say that he made some savings for some years but it was most used up by sending his daughter to study overseas. Under today's economic condition, he has to wait more time to be assigned onboard and it is said his salary will be slashed big next time he has an offer. Well, to make a living, he has to accept that. He used to be a happy-go-lucky guy and always have a smile every day, last week I saw him, he was more like silent and upset.

As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?
Saving money when we are still young is a good preparation for the future, the problem is how can we save money when we don't even have it, or we cannot support our daily needs, then there's nothing left for saving, it is hard specially when we are poor and we only have a minimum wages. I believe that there's a lot of people that is suffering with the situation they wanted to save money but how?.
that is so true - some people are wise and smart to save moeny at the early age - they would not waste money on unnecessary stuff. Which is the best apprach in life - I am not the one who would save money which is worse thing I must mention in my personality

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April 24, 2023, 12:01:07 AM
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Getting old doesn't mean you won't work anymore.  I think I will do something when I retire, a job that I love.  If I don't do anything I will quickly get older.  This I learned from the old people in the village.

Family finance is difficult to describe.  It depends on our own spending.  If possible, create food by growing your own vegetables and raising animals like chickens, ducks and pigs.

Always have some money in the bank is the best way to deal with the unexpected.
agree, after retiring does not mean not doing activities anymore because by continuing to want to not quickly become forgetful (old) then we have to continue to train our minds with usual activities and what we like, then we will stay fit and well maintained.
finances can continue to decrease if you don't do odd jobs which can at least reduce expenses, because relying on interest from the bank from existing savings certainly cannot be sufficient, or as you do by creating jobs by growing vegetables and animals it will at least reduce the costs incurred might be issued.
correct - but we are living in the age where life is so unpredictable - wars, diseases, natural disasters in such a normal thing these days. 

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April 24, 2023, 01:53:32 AM
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Yes , it's great decision on making our lives better in the future so we could do everything even were old , saving mindset it's not stingy but it's a thrifty things.

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April 24, 2023, 11:05:02 AM
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Getting old doesn't mean you won't work anymore.  I think I will do something when I retire, a job that I love.  If I don't do anything I will quickly get older.  This I learned from the old people in the village.

Family finance is difficult to describe.  It depends on our own spending.  If possible, create food by growing your own vegetables and raising animals like chickens, ducks and pigs.

Always have some money in the bank is the best way to deal with the unexpected.

I would love to do this kind of stuff when I go old, not really after with huge amount of savings but having a small property where I can grow vegetables and fruits together with animals where I can survive my daily needs, it's doable if you have a decent job where you can save some of your salary and start investing with small land property.

along the way, it's your way of thinking about your future and how you would like to live it after you retired.

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April 24, 2023, 02:15:39 PM
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Getting old doesn't mean you won't work anymore.  I think I will do something when I retire, a job that I love.  If I don't do anything I will quickly get older.  This I learned from the old people in the village.

Family finance is difficult to describe.  It depends on our own spending.  If possible, create food by growing your own vegetables and raising animals like chickens, ducks and pigs.

Always have some money in the bank is the best way to deal with the unexpected.
agree, after retiring does not mean not doing activities anymore because by continuing to want to not quickly become forgetful (old) then we have to continue to train our minds with usual activities and what we like, then we will stay fit and well maintained.
finances can continue to decrease if you don't do odd jobs which can at least reduce expenses, because relying on interest from the bank from existing savings certainly cannot be sufficient, or as you do by creating jobs by growing vegetables and animals it will at least reduce the costs incurred might be issued.

Money may be the most important thing, but it's not everything.  We need to prepare our attitude, health, psychology, relationships and other things in our heads.  Better preparation will help us anticipate risks.  When we are young, we have health, parents and friends will help us, but when we are old, we will only be able to rely on ourselves.

It takes planning and healthy habits so that old age is not a dead end.

I would love to do this kind of stuff when I go old, not really after with huge amount of savings but having a small property where I can grow vegetables and fruits together with animals where I can survive my daily needs, it's doable if you have a decent job where you can save some of your salary and start investing with small land property.

along the way, it's your way of thinking about your future and how you would like to live it after you retired.
haha.  Preparation is a good thing.  It seems that we here all want to live a peaceful life in old age.  Sometimes the kids will make us nervous.  Where I live, my parents will help the children raise their grandchildren.  It can be a burden, but it's also a joy to watch your baby grow up.



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April 24, 2023, 02:48:06 PM
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Getting old doesn't mean you won't work anymore.  I think I will do something when I retire, a job that I love.  If I don't do anything I will quickly get older.  This I learned from the old people in the village.

Family finance is difficult to describe.  It depends on our own spending.  If possible, create food by growing your own vegetables and raising animals like chickens, ducks and pigs.

Always have some money in the bank is the best way to deal with the unexpected.
agree, after retiring does not mean not doing activities anymore because by continuing to want to not quickly become forgetful (old) then we have to continue to train our minds with usual activities and what we like, then we will stay fit and well maintained.
finances can continue to decrease if you don't do odd jobs which can at least reduce expenses, because relying on interest from the bank from existing savings certainly cannot be sufficient, or as you do by creating jobs by growing vegetables and animals it will at least reduce the costs incurred might be issued.

Money may be the most important thing, but it's not everything.  We need to prepare our attitude, health, psychology, relationships and other things in our heads.  Better preparation will help us anticipate risks.  When we are young, we have health, parents and friends will help us, but when we are old, we will only be able to rely on ourselves.

It takes planning and healthy habits so that old age is not a dead end.

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Last week, I met one of my uncles-in-law who has been a sailor for many years. In the past decade, he has been out of town and travelling all over the world to make a living. He has two children to raise and being a father who is always absent from their growing-up, he somehow does not know how to get along with his kids once he is back home once a year. In this transition period, usually like one month or two, he will find him some odd jobs  to make money to support his family. Unfortunately in this economic downturn, it is very difficult to find a job so he is quite upset now. Staying at home means no income and this makes my aunt very anxious. This uncle is in mid fifties and he is one of the most diligient people I've ever known. Ever since he was young, he would always keep busy doing all kinds of jobs to make money. I have to say that he made some savings for some years but it was most used up by sending his daughter to study overseas. Under today's economic condition, he has to wait more time to be assigned onboard and it is said his salary will be slashed big next time he has an offer. Well, to make a living, he has to accept that. He used to be a happy-go-lucky guy and always have a smile every day, last week I saw him, he was more like silent and upset.

As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?
Saving money when we are still young is a good preparation for the future, the problem is how can we save money when we don't even have it, or we cannot support our daily needs, then there's nothing left for saving, it is hard specially when we are poor and we only have a minimum wages. I believe that there's a lot of people that is suffering with the situation they wanted to save money but how?.

To meet their daily needs, there is no money left to save, therefore some people have side jobs to meet their needs as well as to prepare themselves in case of an emergency. side jobs will be very helpful if you want to have money saved for the future
It's true that we never know what will happen, so for me a side job is important and must be considered,
it will be much better for sure if you have more than one source of income,
we have to learn new skills because it will help.

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Last week, I met one of my uncles-in-law who has been a sailor for many years. In the past decade, he has been out of town and travelling all over the world to make a living. He has two children to raise and being a father who is always absent from their growing-up, he somehow does not know how to get along with his kids once he is back home once a year. In this transition period, usually like one month or two, he will find him some odd jobs  to make money to support his family. Unfortunately in this economic downturn, it is very difficult to find a job so he is quite upset now. Staying at home means no income and this makes my aunt very anxious. This uncle is in mid fifties and he is one of the most diligient people I've ever known. Ever since he was young, he would always keep busy doing all kinds of jobs to make money. I have to say that he made some savings for some years but it was most used up by sending his daughter to study overseas. Under today's economic condition, he has to wait more time to be assigned onboard and it is said his salary will be slashed big next time he has an offer. Well, to make a living, he has to accept that. He used to be a happy-go-lucky guy and always have a smile every day, last week I saw him, he was more like silent and upset.

As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?
Saving money when we are still young is a good preparation for the future, the problem is how can we save money when we don't even have it, or we cannot support our daily needs, then there's nothing left for saving, it is hard specially when we are poor and we only have a minimum wages. I believe that there's a lot of people that is suffering with the situation they wanted to save money but how?.

To meet their daily needs, there is no money left to save, therefore some people have side jobs to meet their needs as well as to prepare themselves in case of an emergency. side jobs will be very helpful if you want to have money saved for the future
It's true that we never know what will happen, so for me a side job is important and must be considered,
it will be much better for sure if you have more than one source of income,
we have to learn new skills because it will help.

Whats best now a days is that if you have skills and are lucky, you can find a side hustle online, like if you have full-time work and then after your work you can have like 5 hours for your side hustles online with your own comfort, unlike before when you would go physically, which is more exhausting because you need to go there physically. If ever we get a chance to have a side hustle, try to grab it, even if it is exhausting, as you need money financially for your future.
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April 24, 2023, 04:03:13 PM
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It takes planning and healthy habits so that old age is not a dead end.
I want to achieve financial freedom before I get old, in fact I am extremely strict with my time.  Everyone wants to have a comfortable life, like to travel, to be at ease with their family after their children have settled down... That means I will have to focus on working, trying to make money, and investing properly for my family.  My goal when I get old, I will build a small farm to grow clean vegetables and I like them to be located in the suburbs.  Enjoying fresh air is a good thing.  There is nothing more precious in old age than good health and mental well-being.

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Last week, I met one of my uncles-in-law who has been a sailor for many years. In the past decade, he has been out of town and travelling all over the world to make a living. He has two children to raise and being a father who is always absent from their growing-up, he somehow does not know how to get along with his kids once he is back home once a year. In this transition period, usually like one month or two, he will find him some odd jobs  to make money to support his family. Unfortunately in this economic downturn, it is very difficult to find a job so he is quite upset now. Staying at home means no income and this makes my aunt very anxious. This uncle is in mid fifties and he is one of the most diligient people I've ever known. Ever since he was young, he would always keep busy doing all kinds of jobs to make money. I have to say that he made some savings for some years but it was most used up by sending his daughter to study overseas. Under today's economic condition, he has to wait more time to be assigned onboard and it is said his salary will be slashed big next time he has an offer. Well, to make a living, he has to accept that. He used to be a happy-go-lucky guy and always have a smile every day, last week I saw him, he was more like silent and upset.

As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?

Becoming a parent to provide for the needs of their children is now more costly, especially with more than one child and the only source of income is from work and no other sources of income, yes if this problem occurs in developed and developing countries as well. Working and saving for the future is a good thing, but there is a negative value, because saving large amounts of money to use in the future will be very regrettable because the value will be different for future needs, except investing in gold, for example. the selling price is fixed and adapts to the current world situation so the value is increasing not decreasing. But we have to be selective and know which cold money will not interfere with the necessities of life, from there we can start setting it aside.
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April 24, 2023, 05:27:50 PM
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Even if you think about the last life, you should definitely save some wealth for yourself. Because you can be a burden to your family when you get older and cross the working age. In this situation, if you save or invest some wealth for yourself thinking about your future, then that saved wealth or investment will be useful in your last age. 

Everyone should do this. Because people's minds are not always the same, maybe you are earning money now so you are a very valuable person to your family but when your source of income stops the family will consider you a burden.  So it is wise to think about your future without being a burden to anyone.
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With today's technological advances and coupled with the conditions where young people are today, of course, this is very good because they can take advantage of the times and not reject various aspects of knowledge. Even though not all of them are prepared, at least there are a lot of young people who are quite successful and can be used as a reference for things like this.

They realize that self-preparation is quite important so they don't delay things like this.

Now there are a lot of supporting factors that can be utilized to make a good life and now it depends on our willingness whether it will only be stuck in place or move and want to live better.
In the end, everything will depend on our own will. If we as the younger generation have high motivation to move forward, then at this time opportunities in all fields are very open for us to enter as long as we are willing to learn. Because now it's easy to access information to add insight and various skills for ourselves, it's also quite easy to get. Even with just a smartphone and an internet connection, we can learn a lot from the internet.

In the past, people had difficulty getting insight because there was no internet world. In the past, if we wanted to gain insight, we had to go to school or to a library to read more books. but now we can access various kinds of books that contain insights from around the world via the internet. so that the current obstacle for the younger generation is only in growing motivation. because sometimes the result of the convenience of technology can actually make the younger generation lazy to learn. their motivation is low in learning because they think that there is no need to learn because if they need information and insight then they only need to look for it on internet search engines to find information.
This is the point.
Because now the resources are adequate, it depends on how we deal with it. Information is easy to obtain, sophisticated technology is widely available now, it's just a matter of how we generate interest in ourselves whether we want to move or not because of course what happens now is that the biggest problem is laziness and I think almost everyone has felt something like this.
Many people are indeed quite lazy to be literate on information and keep up with technology which makes us seem to be left behind with increasingly sophisticated technology.
The real main enemy for everyone comes from themselves, namely Laziness. And this feeling of laziness arises because of a lack of motivation in their life. Because nowadays even without a higher education diploma we can still get a pretty good job. as long as we have expertise that we can highlight. and skills and expertise are also easy to learn nowadays via the internet.

Technological advances have brought convenience to everyone who is open minded and not lazy. but for people who are lazy then they have wasted the opportunity they get every second they miss to relax.

So to prepare for a comfortable old age can also be started by developing ourselves. we have to be a multi-talented person who has many skills so that we can work and make money from various jobs.

Even after AI I think things got pretty easy. we can even ask AI to create an analysis indicator script for trading activities on the crypto market. My friend has tried it and quite effective. even if we don't have expertise in creating a blog or something like that then we can learn self-taught and assisted by AI.

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I know that everyone can't live the same as other people out there, some people could have just easily get anything because they are rich, some people have to really work hard just for their daily needs and foods. This is why I can sort of understand why such things could happen, because that's how life works. It's also important to prepare for the future since today because who knows things are not going as you expect and more preparation means you can avoid such things in the future including economy purpose.

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April 27, 2023, 06:41:41 AM
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Getting old doesn't mean you won't work anymore.  I think I will do something when I retire, a job that I love.  If I don't do anything I will quickly get older.  This I learned from the old people in the village.

Family finance is difficult to describe.  It depends on our own spending.  If possible, create food by growing your own vegetables and raising animals like chickens, ducks and pigs.

Always have some money in the bank is the best way to deal with the unexpected.
agree, after retiring does not mean not doing activities anymore because by continuing to want to not quickly become forgetful (old) then we have to continue to train our minds with usual activities and what we like, then we will stay fit and well maintained.
finances can continue to decrease if you don't do odd jobs which can at least reduce expenses, because relying on interest from the bank from existing savings certainly cannot be sufficient, or as you do by creating jobs by growing vegetables and animals it will at least reduce the costs incurred might be issued.

Money may be the most important thing, but it's not everything.  We need to prepare our attitude, health, psychology, relationships and other things in our heads.  Better preparation will help us anticipate risks.  When we are young, we have health, parents and friends will help us, but when we are old, we will only be able to rely on ourselves.

It takes planning and healthy habits so that old age is not a dead end.

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Money should not be treated as an end in itself. Money is a financial tool (which I have repeatedly repeated) that can and should be used to improve your life, both at the present moment and when old age comes. But keeping them until old age is an unreasonable decision, because by that time it will depreciate significantly. It would be interesting to know if it makes sense to keep bitcoin until old age.

In old age, you can count on your children or they will count on you. Here, how it goes.

A carefree and wasteful life in youth will surely punish in old age, and therefore, one can't do without strategic planning and some restrictions.

Excellent point on that money is a financial tool that can and should be used to improve your life, both at the present moment and when old age comes. Most people go extreme ways to both sides or simply we make mistakes about financial management. I am also thinking about this issue lately and hope to find a better way to make the use of money and live a better life. So glad to read your comment today. Thanks.

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I know that everyone can't live the same as other people out there, some people could have just easily get anything because they are rich, some people have to really work hard just for their daily needs and foods. This is why I can sort of understand why such things could happen, because that's how life works. It's also important to prepare for the future since today because who knows things are not going as you expect and more preparation means you can avoid such things in the future including economy purpose.

We do have differences in terms of financial capabilities and it was given that there are people who live as wealthy since birth while others live poor and have no option but to survive, though chances to change our future always in our hands if we continue chasing for good opportunities maybe there's something out there that will give us the chance to succeed.

Preparing for the future should always be a part of your life. You never know what's waiting for you and being prepared will give you some good edge to continue surviving whatever the future may like.

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April 28, 2023, 07:23:36 PM
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In old age, you can count on your children or they will count on you. Here, how it goes.
This is an important point to consider, where we don't always have to think about our future to be responsible for our descendants. We don't always have to save for our future, but investing in education and providing a good school for our children is one of the best investments for our assurance in old age. When our children can earn more money than us, the legacy of mental and material wealth will continue to our grandchildren in the future. Who wouldn't be proud of this achievement?

It all depends on our perception in dealing with the existence of money. Hoarding it can be exhausting, but using money with the right purpose has the potential to bring greater benefits than our expectations.
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