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April 05, 2023, 11:36:03 PM
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Any government that is uneasy about AI has the right to ban it in their country; to some point, they really know what's best for their citizens. 
Possibly, those who are AI lovers will definitely want to fight for it and defend it in any way that they can. 

But left to myself, I don't have much interest in this AI, if there is such a thing, in as much as they are good in different areas and render some kinds of support that make things a little bit easier. I still don't buy the idea of making AI as popular as it's becoming now without analyzing the risk factor that it might cause if humans eventually lose control over them; that's for the other AIs, which are not just built for writing purposes. 
You cannot be interested in this great technological success, which is being applied in several fields and achieving amazing successes. However, a distinction must be made between artificial intelligence as a useful technology to certain extents, and artificial intelligence chat applications, which are considered one of those bad applications of technology.
Like all emerging projects, there are those who will try to exploit them in the worst way, mainly for profitable purposes. It is unfortunate that major companies are trying to employ them in a harmful way in one way or another.
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April 06, 2023, 02:59:07 AM
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It's not simple as that for saying if centralized AI get banned, there's will be a decentralized AI will comes up and can't get banned by the government.

There are many smart developers out there, but they will not spend all of his time to create a good project when he doesn't get any benefit, it's wasting time.

This is true, why would anyone dedicate his talent and skills in making a successful project? For sure he would gain something in return by releasing that project. Not only it gain popularity some might try to buy his project with its convenience it gives. Since many people acknowledged this AI, surely geniuses would do something about decentralized AI as government were concerned about Chatgpt. Here in my country once chatgpt was announced in public, most people rely on the information that the website give. Which is kinda scary as it gives fact informations. Chatgpt is a helpful website for people to use, but some would use it to illegal thing. So far government doesn't find it dangerous since there's still no issues about it.

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April 06, 2023, 05:52:46 AM
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I don't think there's anything laws can do to stop the development of artificial intelligence. One reason is that people are paid to work on the development of artificial intelligence. In fact, developing artificial intelligence is their job description. And all these appeals and bans look ridiculous (like the riots against the development of factory production once looked like).
Factory production and the development of artificial intelligence (AI) are completely different categories in terms of the threat to the continued existence of mankind. The development of factory production threatened only a part of the workers who were replaced by machines and deprived of their jobs. Here the situation is radically different. Artificial intelligence is able to learn and in many ways can surpass humans. And this is a threat that it is almost natural and logical that AI will want to destroy humanity. Already, human-piloted military aircraft have been able to hold out against AI in a simulator for only a minute and a half. AI fully predicts human actions and instantly makes the right decisions.

Now they predict the emergence of a new version of ChatGPT-5 and this will mean the practical identity of AI with the way a person thinks and realizes.
Such an AI is capable of understanding or learning any intellectual task that humans can perform. This is a direct threat to humanity and therefore it must be approached very seriously.

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April 06, 2023, 10:13:24 AM
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Many countries are afraid of the development of AI technology so that excessive supervision, in my opinion this is a mistake, when creativity is limited, ideas will emerge to fight the policy, AI is the future of technology that can make life better.
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April 06, 2023, 11:19:36 AM
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There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?


Why do you think that centralization or decentralization have something to do with AI technology?
Do you really think that blockchain technology can be used for creating and maintaining AI? Maybe it is theoretically possible, I'm not expert in AI, we should ask somebody who knows a thing or two about this subject.
Decentralized AI(or whatever you mean by this term) can be banned. The problem is that the government won't be successful at efficiently imposing that ban. Privacy isn't the only problem of AI. I'm sure that AI bots use lots of copyright protected text and images, without the permission of their authors, which is illegal.

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April 06, 2023, 12:02:51 PM
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There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

It's no wonder why ChatGPT is banned, depending on whether it's profitable or not because of the fact that when we ask for someone's data on ChatGPT, we will get it easily. Once again the privacy that is given for free and the data collection make ChatGPT quite dangerous. There are always its own pros and cons. The purpose of ChatGPT was created to help human work easier but being a double-edged sword can make it useful and vice versa.

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April 06, 2023, 02:22:08 PM
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I heard rumors about banning the use of ChatGPT, but it's really not clear. But if this happens, it will certainly have a significant impact on decentralized AI projects. ChatGPT and OpenAI are famous and globally influential AI projects, being banned in one country can become a premise for other countries to start banning them as well. This may affect the feasibility of decentralized AI projects and may lead to difficulty in developing these projects globally. If decentralized AI projects are banned or run into difficulties, there will certainly be outcry and protests from the scientific and engineering communities. However, raising these objections may not be enough to prevent bans on AI projects. It is important to find ways to address privacy and security issues openly and collaboratively, to ensure the sustainable development of AI and related technologies.
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April 06, 2023, 04:10:40 PM
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I heard rumors about banning the use of ChatGPT, but it's really not clear. But if this happens, it will certainly have a significant impact on decentralized AI projects. ChatGPT and OpenAI are famous and globally influential AI projects, being banned in one country can become a premise for other countries to start banning them as well. This may affect the feasibility of decentralized AI projects and may lead to difficulty in developing these projects globally. If decentralized AI projects are banned or run into difficulties, there will certainly be outcry and protests from the scientific and engineering communities. However, raising these objections may not be enough to prevent bans on AI projects. It is important to find ways to address privacy and security issues openly and collaboratively, to ensure the sustainable development of AI and related technologies.
I think the reason for most of them is that you can selectively give the data you want. Meaning that if you give it a good data for one political candidate and bad data for another, you can change even some of the discussions as well. I am not saying that's going to happen, or that's the reason, but the data fed into the AI is the main reason, because that makes it centralized and that's the issue.

I personally believe that we could potentially have a proper one in the future, but a decentralized one would be filled with hitler and whatever jokes or doge and memes, which would make it terrible as well, so you gotta do a centralized one without any political or any other type of leaning.
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April 06, 2023, 05:27:56 PM
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In my opinion, whether the ban is official or not is still a wait and see, it is clear that governments around the world are increasingly concerned about privacy concerns regarding centralized AI. If centralized AI projects like ChatGPT or OpenAI face a ban in other parts of the world, perhaps we could see a rally in decentralized AI projects on the blockchain. This could lead to greater innovation and competition in the industry, as developers work to create more secure and decentralized AI solutions.

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April 06, 2023, 05:57:10 PM
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If governments are banning AI then definitely they might have found something nasty about the ChatGPT. Let me guess, ChatGPT is injecting itself into government servers or may be leaking out military server information in the public river? You never know what could be the reason but mostly it seems that they have predicted this already. There are also many other possibilities such as Centralised AI capturing critical info like stock market, shares, start predicting some next level outcomes. This could cause chaos everywhere and lead the humanity towards worst future. Well, if AI this powerful was easy to create then definitely it’s possible for it to go next level.
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April 06, 2023, 06:04:44 PM
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There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?

Banning AI is sheer stupidity, i have seen Italy has done that but their concerns are over the privacy concerns relating to user data. In general banning it to avoid it is Obviously not going to work. It hasn't worked in the past and will not work in the future also. Lots of governments previously also has tried banning emerging technologies like bitcoin also but nothing has actually worked ever.
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April 06, 2023, 06:08:47 PM
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Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?


Being centralized is not the problem but the existence of this AI technology is the real concern for banning this technology due to the potential risk involved. Building it on blockchain doesn’t make this AI less risk in contrary to the centralized AI. Most like this blockchain based AI will be banned too if the main ChatGPT is not allowed to use on a specific country.

Country like Italy might revised this total ban later and imposed some restrictions when this AI technology become a global phenomena. They are just scared because this is new.

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April 06, 2023, 06:21:08 PM
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Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?


Blockchain is a database. A very clunky and inefficient one.

AI is a program that first of all requires processing power. Not storage space. It makes zero sense to put "AI on blockchain", it's just technobabble.

And Italy didn't ban AI - they banned a chatbot website because it wasn't complying with Italy's privacy laws. But you can still use GPT-4 and other AIs in Italy in their other forms.
Blockchain, decentralization, these two are overly abused words I guess.

By the way, OP, no one can ban AI, it's just impossible because AI is made by using of math, data science, programming languages. There are a lot of programming languages used for that purposes, including python, C++, Java. It worth to note that this programming languages can't be banned and even if you ban, you have to keep in mind that logic is similar for all of them because they are based on Math, finally it comes down to 0 and 1. There is simply no way to ban AI, it's unstoppable, especially if it comes with ability to takeover endless amount of information and develop its analyzing skills and abilities with superfast calculation.

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April 06, 2023, 06:51:10 PM
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There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?


I have not heard of any such rumor but if it does indeed exist then the best thing to do is make ChatGPT open source. I mean if it gets banned anyway then might as well give the people the opportunity to build their own ChatGPT as well as improve upon it.

The governments have absolutely no right or logical reason to ban it. I think its all coming down to a handful of bitter, old and scared men who get easily frightened by technology and therefore feel the need to ban it. And even if the fears are justified a tiny bit, how do they propose to stop it? All they are doing is fighting against the inevitable and wasting taxpayer money.

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April 07, 2023, 03:23:32 PM
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I think the reason for most of them is that you can selectively give the data you want. Meaning that if you give it a good data for one political candidate and bad data for another, you can change even some of the discussions as well. I am not saying that's going to happen, or that's the reason, but the data fed into the AI is the main reason, because that makes it centralized and that's the issue.

I personally believe that we could potentially have a proper one in the future, but a decentralized one would be filled with hitler and whatever jokes or doge and memes, which would make it terrible as well, so you gotta do a centralized one without any political or any other type of leaning.
I agree with your point of view, and the fact that a tool product is born always has problems around in the process of using it. But I also find that their benefits are more widespread than just seeing the danger to the masses, and this makes me think even more about the negative possibility of limiting information between the two. everybody. Influential people still use them to influence those who can't, and here sharing knowledge for all comes with universalization of more ethical use in public works. this tool. I think this would be really cool if everyone adopted it like that, but first of all, the thing to do is adapt to this new technology change.
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April 07, 2023, 04:31:37 PM
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There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.

Another possibility is if ChatGPT or OpenAI start getting banned in other parts of the world we can see a big rally on AI projects on the blockchain, what do you think?



Things like that need to be Open-sourced and Transparent, but they most likely prefer it closed to prevent potential competitors from copying it, to remain in the dark probably because their method is evil that they don't want it to be public/transparent hence avoiding accountability.
I think decentralized AI will be transparent and accountable. But you'll also have to be worried about people copying, modifying, centralizing and close sourcing it.
Participants of proper Open-Source projects are more likely to continue to build on right/good foundations started by their founders as long as there remains honest/good participants that can't be censored or identified.
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April 07, 2023, 06:05:12 PM
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I think centralized AI is not a thing, it is just AI from a company, not everything has to be centralized or decentralized, by this logic all the phone brands are "centralized" because apple or Samsung or whatever owns it, or all tv's are centralized because they are produced by a company etc. Sometimes it is just a company and it is product, you can't call a product centralized, that makes no sense at all, it is their product of course it is centralized.

I believe that the best thing here is that let the nations decide for itself, ban it or not however you want to approach it if they want to, but just let them decide for themselves and voters will show their decision as well.

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April 07, 2023, 06:40:55 PM
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There is a rumor going around that Centralized ChatGPT is getting banned, I don't know if this is official yet but it is official that in Italy the government is worried about privacy concerns and they put a ban on ChatGPT, is this the beginning of the end for ChatGPT? How will this impact decentralized AI projects because I believe they can't be banned.
You should know the impact of the ban made by Italy for example, there is an invitation about privacy that makes them try to limit it, because they are worried that the collection of user data will end up in an ugly crime. Even though ChatGPT was not designed for that, it could be used by some people for a planned crime, the ban is also temporary and if they comply with the law it is likely to be lifted.

If you understand Cryptocurrency is decentralized in several countries, there are some that allow it to be used as a commodity asset but it is regulated on exchanges that already have permission and there are some that completely prohibit it from being able to operate in that country, if it is violated there are consequences that will be received by user. It's not final how the continuation of ChatGPT will experience a worldwide ban, because this is still in the early stages of its development that I know.

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I don't think there's anything laws can do to stop the development of artificial intelligence. One reason is that people are paid to work on the development of artificial intelligence. In fact, developing artificial intelligence is their job description. And all these appeals and bans look ridiculous (like the riots against the development of factory production once looked like).
It not exactly pointless when it's got to do with issues of privacy encroachment and having to lift data from users without any due process. Taking an action as a means to mitigate this is definitely a step in the right direction. Though there might be means to access and use the services, it's not going yo come without some complications.
I recall when Twitter was banned in my nation for issues related to spreading fake news by local users although, after much deliberation, it was revived. It might not be the end for ChatGPT in Italy but, its some means to get some compliance and a more user protective approach to it's service dispensation.

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A lot of people had been pushing for the ban of AI because it had been breaching copy right in a way that people now does not wwnt to follow the normal process to get things done. Many people prefer the use of AI which make work too easier and this can cause big problem in the future if it continues. If the government put a ban on it then I think that would be a good move to make people concentrate on focus on the the normal procedures of there jobs. When work becomes too easy people would become too lazy to deliver.









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