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Question: Who do you think will win?
Terrence "Bud" Crawford - 26 (86.7%)
Errol "The Truth" Spence - 4 (13.3%)
Draw - 0 (0%)
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July 16, 2023, 11:42:10 AM
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To hype the fight more, here is ALL ACCESS: Spence vs. Crawford | Ep 1 | Full Episode | SHOWTIME PPV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4JkMZtv8yA

You can hear both of them talking about the fight, there trainings and the attitude. I advise everyone to follow the All Access so that we can see a glimpse of this two boxers are they are going for a super fight.

I am really curious about the outcome of the numbers in this fight. I felt like there is not enough buzz. While Crawford made some trash-talking, he seems controlling it, probably trying not to get under Spence's skin or the Texan gets scared and withdraw? Cheesy Geez, Bud is turning 36.

So far no trash talking, I know, we missed those kind of smack talking, hehehe. But perhaps they know what they are doing here. Stop the trash talk and let them promote and go to the media showing respect and see how boxing fans are going to react with this fight. It could work for them in the end.

Anyways, with Jermell Charlo vacating all the belts at 154 for his fight with Canelo, Bud's dream of getting a shot at the undisputed belts at 154 is becoming nearly impossible. A trilogy with Spence is even possible if they can tie it at 1-1. Although I would love for any of these sanctioning bodies to offer a vacant belt at 154 for the rematch which would make Bud a legit 4-division world champion or Spence a 2-division world champion.

We wii wait to wait and see, how the first fight will go. It will really depends on how they are going to fare on the first fight. It could be a war and do hope that it will be the case so that the fans are going to look for the rematch or maybe the score will go 1-1 and it's going to be worth for this sanctioning body to allow this fight to proceed and let other fighters fight for the interim belt or whatever they are going to call it.

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There is none of a single doubt about the hype between these two can create and that they can surpass the blockbuster hit that Davis and Garcia did in the previous months. I mean, it is given already knowing how Al Haymon kept the right to organize it even if there is already other organizers that wanted to give them those guaranteed money, he know that the revenue in this fight will be much bigger than what is anticipated that is why he didn't gave up those rights because he knew probably at that time that sooner or later, the path of Crawford and Spence will soon cross.

Now everything is almost on his hands. A few more weeks and we will see the fight to happen.

And the good catch here for Al Haymon is the rematch claw that can bring another huge profit. Whatever happened to
this upcoming fight, the chance of a seeing them again is possible.

More money for everyone knowing how the fans will react and how it will be hypes. Socmed is too wide in helping
this match to create viewers and gamblers supports.

Hope we get a good trilogy out of this one.  Although I don't think he will lose, I kinda hope we get a 1-1 situation with a rubber match to take the belts for good.  Haven't laid in a bet yet waiting until we get closer to see if the line swings, but I'm going Crawford KO in about the 8th/9th round.

I can only see a rematch on the horizon if Crawford will come out as the winner of this fight because he tends to be more open for more negotiations in the future, but if it's Errol Spence who will have the undisputed title, I really doubt that they will agree with a rematch even though there is a clause written on their contract. I don't know what they will do about it, but I surely know that they can find some way if they are not that inclined to make it happen.

Another thing that they should consider as well in the money that is going to generated in the first fight. However, if we go on what we here in the public, there is definitely a rematch regardless of the winner.

I guess just a safety net for the loser, so that he has the chance to avenge his lost and make it even. And then most likely a trilogy to end all doubts as who is the best 147 lbs in this era.

Money will not be a problem in their first encounter because it will be a sold out fight for sure plus with the additional of Donaire-Santiago fight in the undercard will make the fight more marketable and will generate huge profits that will fill the organizer's pockets for a couple of years. The problem is if they will make a rematch, will the second encounter keep up with the same same revenues or at least in par with what they will make in the first bout.


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July 17, 2023, 02:38:45 PM
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Money will not be a problem in their first encounter because it will be a sold out fight for sure plus with the additional of Donaire-Santiago fight in the undercard will make the fight more marketable and will generate huge profits that will fill the organizer's pockets for a couple of years. The problem is if they will make a rematch, will the second encounter keep up with the same same revenues or at least in par with what they will make in the first bout.
You are right and indeed money is not everything in their first fight because there will definitely be special interest that makes many people flock to be able to buy tickets and watch the fight.
The advantage is certain to be obtained, especially since this has become one of the battles that have been waiting for.
If at the first meeting this can be a great fight and there is little controversy then you can be sure that when the rematch is held later there will be more and more people who are more excited to witness it.

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July 17, 2023, 05:42:51 PM
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There is none of a single doubt about the hype between these two can create and that they can surpass the blockbuster hit that Davis and Garcia did in the previous months. I mean, it is given already knowing how Al Haymon kept the right to organize it even if there is already other organizers that wanted to give them those guaranteed money, he know that the revenue in this fight will be much bigger than what is anticipated that is why he didn't gave up those rights because he knew probably at that time that sooner or later, the path of Crawford and Spence will soon cross.

Now everything is almost on his hands. A few more weeks and we will see the fight to happen.

And the good catch here for Al Haymon is the rematch claw that can bring another huge profit. Whatever happened to
this upcoming fight, the chance of a seeing them again is possible.

More money for everyone knowing how the fans will react and how it will be hypes. Socmed is too wide in helping
this match to create viewers and gamblers supports.

Hope we get a good trilogy out of this one.  Although I don't think he will lose, I kinda hope we get a 1-1 situation with a rubber match to take the belts for good.  Haven't laid in a bet yet waiting until we get closer to see if the line swings, but I'm going Crawford KO in about the 8th/9th round.

I can only see a rematch on the horizon if Crawford will come out as the winner of this fight because he tends to be more open for more negotiations in the future, but if it's Errol Spence who will have the undisputed title, I really doubt that they will agree with a rematch even though there is a clause written on their contract. I don't know what they will do about it, but I surely know that they can find some way if they are not that inclined to make it happen.

Another thing that they should consider as well in the money that is going to generated in the first fight. However, if we go on what we here in the public, there is definitely a rematch regardless of the winner.

I guess just a safety net for the loser, so that he has the chance to avenge his lost and make it even. And then most likely a trilogy to end all doubts as who is the best 147 lbs in this era.

Money will not be a problem in their first encounter because it will be a sold out fight for sure plus with the additional of Donaire-Santiago fight in the undercard will make the fight more marketable and will generate huge profits that will fill the organizer's pockets for a couple of years. The problem is if they will make a rematch, will the second encounter keep up with the same same revenues or at least in par with what they will make in the first bout.

If it weren't because of the sudden withdrawal of fights under Spence-Crawford fight undercards, we won't see Donaire and Santiago in a much bigger stage.

By the way, I wonder what did the organizers do to the fans who have already bought a ticket for the latter's fight that was supposed to happen few days back because I know that some of them actually reserved that day just to watch the fight and now that it was moved suddenly, did they get a proper consolation for it? Hopefully the answer is yes.

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July 18, 2023, 01:41:12 AM
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

Spence vs. Crawford is practically sold out so option B is out of the question. Donaire vs. Santiago was only a supporting bout, the main event still happened so technically fans got the event they paid for and aren't eligible for a refund either. The only option would have been to resell or transfer your tickets through the Ticketmaster app.

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July 18, 2023, 08:08:37 AM
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

Spence vs. Crawford is practically sold out so option B is out of the question. Donaire vs. Santiago was only a supporting bout, the main event still happened so technically fans got the event they paid for and aren't eligible for a refund either. The only option would have been to resell or transfer your tickets through the Ticketmaster app.

That poses a significant inconvenience for the fans who have already purchased tickets for the Donaire vs Santiago fight. I hope their situation will be taken into consideration. After all, it's not their fault that the fight has been postponed. Valuing the fans should be the top priority, especially when unexpected changes occur. It's crucial to ensure that no issues arise that would upset the fans.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

Spence vs. Crawford is practically sold out so option B is out of the question. Donaire vs. Santiago was only a supporting bout, the main event still happened so technically fans got the event they paid for and aren't eligible for a refund either. The only option would have been to resell or transfer your tickets through the Ticketmaster app.

That poses a significant inconvenience for the fans who have already purchased tickets for the Donaire vs Santiago fight. I hope their situation will be taken into consideration. After all, it's not their fault that the fight has been postponed. Valuing the fans should be the top priority, especially when unexpected changes occur. It's crucial to ensure that no issues arise that would upset the fans.

Indeed, it's not the fans' fault, and they should get that consideration.

Though the chance of getting the chance of watching the fight, it's slim as mentioned, the ticket might be sold out now as there are
many fans who would like to witness the unification fights against Crawford and Spence expect that a refund may be the option for
those fans who already bought the early tickets, chance that they will only watch the fight thru PPV.
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

That is the best thing they can do and it is more likely that the fans who have bought the ticket have an option to choose between A or B because it will be unreasonable if they will decide without asking which is more comfortable to the fans as they were the ones who dragged the fight in the first place without giving any prior notice and to give them time to adjust with the new posted schedule if they can make it work. Also, best assume that most fans who bought the ticket cannot watch the fight live anymore specially to the people who have a hectic schedule or work.

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Money will not be a problem in their first encounter because it will be a sold out fight for sure plus with the additional of Donaire-Santiago fight in the undercard will make the fight more marketable and will generate huge profits that will fill the organizer's pockets for a couple of years. The problem is if they will make a rematch, will the second encounter keep up with the same same revenues or at least in par with what they will make in the first bout.

I also think the addition of Donaire-Santiago undercard will give some boost to this event.  It is a treat for us to see the fight of Crawford and Spence together with Donaire and Santiago in one ticket.  I believe Donaire has still lots of fans out there aside from the curious boxing fans who wanted to see whether Donaire still has that sting.

^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

I am also wondering what will happen to the tickets from Donaire and Santiago.  I somehow think that they will just let it be and let the ticket holder use it as an entrance to the fight since it wasn't the buyers' fault that rescheduling was made.

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July 20, 2023, 03:07:21 AM
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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

Spence vs. Crawford is practically sold out so option B is out of the question. Donaire vs. Santiago was only a supporting bout, the main event still happened so technically fans got the event they paid for and aren't eligible for a refund either. The only option would have been to resell or transfer your tickets through the Ticketmaster app.

That poses a significant inconvenience for the fans who have already purchased tickets for the Donaire vs Santiago fight. I hope their situation will be taken into consideration. After all, it's not their fault that the fight has been postponed. Valuing the fans should be the top priority, especially when unexpected changes occur. It's crucial to ensure that no issues arise that would upset the fans.

Yeah, that's why they might be given those two scenario's that I laid down because it's not their fault. Or maybe it will also include some perks like hotel accommodation or something because it's going to be a hassle.

As for the fight itself, I saw some post and feed on my social media accounts that Spence and Crawford are doing some light media work outs. It's probably to hype the fight even more as the date is just about a week .

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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

That is the best thing they can do and it is more likely that the fans who have bought the ticket have an option to choose between A or B because it will be unreasonable if they will decide without asking which is more comfortable to the fans as they were the ones who dragged the fight in the first place without giving any prior notice and to give them time to adjust with the new posted schedule if they can make it work. Also, best assume that most fans who bought the ticket cannot watch the fight live anymore specially to the people who have a hectic schedule or work.

That would be the expected scenario. The sad thing about fight postponements or changing of matches is that many of these fans are from far away states counties or states or even from other countries and they already booked their flights and hotels. So this is common to traveling fight fans but there is nothing they can do but probably continue their weekend short vacations and just enjoy the other stuff if they do not like the new fights, especially the new main events. I always hear these complaints and reactions from these fans but well, things sometimes happen unexpectedly.

If all of us have the luxury of both time and money, we're all going to be in the Crawford-Spence duel drinking beers. Grin

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^^ Most likely two scenarios,

a. fans who bought the ticket for the Donaire vs Santiago will be refunded full.
b. or they are going to be given the chance to watch it on the reschedule fight.

So everything is building right now, the fans of both in social media are hyping the fight and have their own predictions on how the fight is going to end. I still haven't decided yet. But I might bet as the fight gets closer to the date.

That is the best thing they can do and it is more likely that the fans who have bought the ticket have an option to choose between A or B because it will be unreasonable if they will decide without asking which is more comfortable to the fans as they were the ones who dragged the fight in the first place without giving any prior notice and to give them time to adjust with the new posted schedule if they can make it work. Also, best assume that most fans who bought the ticket cannot watch the fight live anymore specially to the people who have a hectic schedule or work.

That would be the expected scenario. The sad thing about fight postponements or changing of matches is that many of these fans are from far away states counties or states or even from other countries and they already booked their flights and hotels. So this is common to traveling fight fans but there is nothing they can do but probably continue their weekend short vacations and just enjoy the other stuff if they do not like the new fights, especially the new main events. I always hear these complaints and reactions from these fans but well, things sometimes happen unexpectedly.

If all of us have the luxury of both time and money, we're all going to be in the Crawford-Spence duel drinking beers. Grin

Don't rub it in mate, LOL. We could only wish that we can see Donaire vs Santiago and then Crawford vs Spence in the same night.  Grin. Nevertheless, I think there is PPV or even we can get to watch the fight for free so that is good enough for us.

For sure everyone of us here is excited and hopefully if there are members here that is stateside, maybe they are going to watch it. Nevertheless, its' going to be weekends so we can sit down with our friends and families and enjoy this great and exciting fight.

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July 20, 2023, 01:19:40 PM
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For sure everyone of us here is excited and hopefully if there are members here that is stateside, maybe they are going to watch it. Nevertheless, its' going to be weekends so we can sit down with our friends and families and enjoy this great and exciting fight.
With the changes that have happened, I believe there's a big possibility that the PPV amount will surpass the PPV revenue of Davis vs. Garcia, which was very successful. Donaire can attract a crowd because he was once a good pound-for-pound boxer, and I'm sure everyone wants to see how an older Donaire will win a championship.
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July 20, 2023, 02:23:28 PM
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For sure everyone of us here is excited and hopefully if there are members here that is stateside, maybe they are going to watch it. Nevertheless, its' going to be weekends so we can sit down with our friends and families and enjoy this great and exciting fight.
With the changes that have happened, I believe there's a big possibility that the PPV amount will surpass the PPV revenue of Davis vs. Garcia, which was very successful. Donaire can attract a crowd because he was once a good pound-for-pound boxer, and I'm sure everyone wants to see how an older Donaire will win a championship.
That's part of the strategy to sell the fight more. It's nice to watch the game when the undercards are already exciting to watch. We all know that Spence vs. Crawford is an anticipated fight and it's sure to generate a lot of money. But they cannot be too complacent; instead, they have added more attractions to maximize the opportunity of making it more profitable.

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July 21, 2023, 01:43:04 PM
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There are still no significant changes in the betting odds.

Spence 2.20
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Crawford by KO or TKO 3.35
Spence by KO or TKO 7.00

All the attraction points to Spence if you like a big win. Also, you have to believe that Spence will win so you'll not regret your decision. Spence by KO could happen, actually, since Spence has heavy punches and his KO rate is high. Maybe the quickness belongs to Crawford, but who knows.

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There are still no significant changes in the betting odds.

Spence 2.20
Crawford 1.60

Crawford by KO or TKO 3.35
Spence by KO or TKO 7.00

All the attraction points to Spence if you like a big win. Also, you have to believe that Spence will win so you'll not regret your decision. Spence by KO could happen, actually, since Spence has heavy punches and his KO rate is high. Maybe the quickness belongs to Crawford, but who knows.

Their KO difference is not that far and so I think they are somehow equal in that regard.
But when it comes to speed and reach advantage, that will be hard to debate because it is clear that Crawford does have those qualities, still, we cannot discount Errol Spence in this fight because he too can give an explosive and unexpected outcome. It will be a tight fight for sure and I'm sure that I'm not the only one that is still thinking which side to bet.
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July 21, 2023, 03:28:47 PM
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There are still no significant changes in the betting odds.

Spence 2.20
Crawford 1.60

Crawford by KO or TKO 3.35
Spence by KO or TKO 7.00

All the attraction points to Spence if you like a big win. Also, you have to believe that Spence will win so you'll not regret your decision. Spence by KO could happen, actually, since Spence has heavy punches and his KO rate is high. Maybe the quickness belongs to Crawford, but who knows.

Their KO difference is not that far and so I think they are somehow equal in that regard.
But when it comes to speed and reach advantage, that will be hard to debate because it is clear that Crawford does have those qualities, still, we cannot discount Errol Spence in this fight because he too can give an explosive and unexpected outcome. It will be a tight fight for sure and I'm sure that I'm not the only one that is still thinking which side to bet.

If we base on Thier standings and career records then we can say that they are not too far Thier statistics are almost the same but for me Spence has the momentum and have a good percentage of winning. Also this fight is one of the greatest awaited fight in boxing history because both fighters are strong and popular so without a doubt this will be the star of the year and gamblers must know for this to choose Thier favorite fighters and bet with them.

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July 22, 2023, 04:28:02 PM
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There are still no significant changes in the betting odds.

Spence 2.20
Crawford 1.60

Crawford by KO or TKO 3.35
Spence by KO or TKO 7.00

All the attraction points to Spence if you like a big win. Also, you have to believe that Spence will win so you'll not regret your decision. Spence by KO could happen, actually, since Spence has heavy punches and his KO rate is high. Maybe the quickness belongs to Crawford, but who knows.

Their KO difference is not that far and so I think they are somehow equal in that regard.
But when it comes to speed and reach advantage, that will be hard to debate because it is clear that Crawford does have those qualities, still, we cannot discount Errol Spence in this fight because he too can give an explosive and unexpected outcome. It will be a tight fight for sure and I'm sure that I'm not the only one that is still thinking which side to bet.

If we base on Thier standings and career records then we can say that they are not too far Thier statistics are almost the same but for me Spence has the momentum and have a good percentage of winning. Also this fight is one of the greatest awaited fight in boxing history because both fighters are strong and popular so without a doubt this will be the star of the year and gamblers must know for this to choose Thier favorite fighters and bet with them.


Everyone have their own sides to take, whatever we say here, it will not change a single thing if they already locked it in their mind whether if it's Crawford or Spence. Same with how would the fight go, people will always have a say regardless of the result. Some will say that it's because of inactivity and some will say that this fight should've made years ago when they are both younger compared today where the other one is already approaching his retirement phase.

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July 22, 2023, 05:00:22 PM
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There are still no significant changes in the betting odds.

Spence 2.20
Crawford 1.60

Crawford by KO or TKO 3.35
Spence by KO or TKO 7.00

All the attraction points to Spence if you like a big win. Also, you have to believe that Spence will win so you'll not regret your decision. Spence by KO could happen, actually, since Spence has heavy punches and his KO rate is high. Maybe the quickness belongs to Crawford, but who knows.

Their KO difference is not that far and so I think they are somehow equal in that regard.
But when it comes to speed and reach advantage, that will be hard to debate because it is clear that Crawford does have those qualities, still, we cannot discount Errol Spence in this fight because he too can give an explosive and unexpected outcome. It will be a tight fight for sure and I'm sure that I'm not the only one that is still thinking which side to bet.

If we base on Thier standings and career records then we can say that they are not too far Thier statistics are almost the same but for me Spence has the momentum and have a good percentage of winning. Also this fight is one of the greatest awaited fight in boxing history because both fighters are strong and popular so without a doubt this will be the star of the year and gamblers must know for this to choose Thier favorite fighters and bet with them.


Everyone have their own sides to take, whatever we say here, it will not change a single thing if they already locked it in their mind whether if it's Crawford or Spence. Same with how would the fight go, people will always have a say regardless of the result. Some will say that it's because of inactivity and some will say that this fight should've made years ago when they are both younger compared today where the other one is already approaching his retirement phase.

You certainly got a point there my friend, this is just like the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight where people will say that the fight should've happened years earlier when the latter is still at its best shape. But news flash mate, it's all about techniques even if it's off the court, we cannot blame some boxers if they choose to fight these known boxers when they are already old because they already knew their chances if they were to fight them at a younger stage and a defeat will certainly have a backlash in their career.

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